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HH

Not to mention that we have no idea what the ABC people told them... they say one person knew who Kerry was - this implies they mentioned Kerry. Did they mention he was against Bush? What are the chances that there is widespread anti-Bush sentiment in a communist country? Hmm. Plus one seems to mention FIGHTING against the Americans. Gee, you don't suppose they might have an anti-American slant?

Whatever!


No, the story does mention Kerry. The Vietnamese remembered him. At first they didn't want to talk to the reporters because "they didn't want to influence the US presidential election". The ABC reporters assured them that the research wouldn't have that effect.

Whether their story were to support the Swift Vets' version I still wouldn't put much faith in it. The incident was how many years ago? And JOM is right to question the validity of the fighters' claims of heroically facing down the enemies.

HH

John O'Neill came fully prepared tonight, calling Koppel's report "truly pathetic." Koppel pleaded with him to stop waving books around and O'Neill said he hoped Koppel would cover other issues like Cambodia.

Snowy

I'm sure the Vietnamese government is simply delighted to assist Kerry in any way it can, considering all the help Kerry once gave them.

How could the ABC crew have gotten into Nam and talked to the villagers without the government helping them? Or even orchestrating the entire event.

Reid

Unfortunately, the people most likely to buy into this crap are the undecided voters who are going to decide this election.

MaDr

Good call Snowy. Kerry's picture is afterall hanging in their war museum, and he did get relations re-established with the US.

My hats off to all you brave souls that can stomach ABC, CBS, NBC, etc to let the rest of us know what the latest hoax the Lmsm is trying to perpetrate on the public. I had read months ago, that it was estimated that the Lmsm would be making approximately $400MM in-kind contributions to the Kerry campaign. I'd guess this story may have totaled $1MM.

ed

Hmmm.

What I find curious is that there is no distinction made between the two phases of that battle.

In the first phase all three boats beach, unload their ground troops and conduct a general assault on the beach in a heavy firefight with some local VC.

In the second phase Kerry's boat, and another boat, leave the beach, go up the river and are then attacked by a VC with a rocket launcher. It is this second phase of the battle for which Kerry recieved his medal, not the first.

But it looks like both phases are intermingled for the purposes of this story. Which is not only bad reporting but simply ridiculous.

andrei

The silver star narrative has never been a centerpoint of the swifties charges against Kerry and in fact their version and the 'official' versions are pretty much in agreement.

By concerntrating on this the media can claim the swifties are debunked thereby discrediting the far more credible and devastating charges the swifties have laid.

To my mind the way this aspect of the narrative has been zeroed in on suggests that the media realize the swifties charges have validity.

You can count on the fact that the Vietnamese Governement would far prefer a Kerry Presidency. He has blocked the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate. This bill was passed 410 to 1 nay in congress. It is little wonder that ABC got all the co-operation it needed for this program from them.

steve

So the guy was "clipped" by the forward gunner.

I don't know everything, so I'm wondering if the forward gunner is the guy whose position is basically atop the superstructure of the boat, WITH A TWIN .50 MOUNT.

I asked an ex-marine with whom I work - and who was a .50 gunner - about the effect of a leg wound on a man from a .50 caliber MG.

He said if the bullet passed within a few inches of the lower leg, even if it did not actually penetrate, the wall of air generated by the bullet's passage would basically sever the leg. When I described the idea of a flesh wound, or grazing wound from a .50 cal, he laughed out loud.

So what kind of machine gun is on the forward mount of a Swift Boat?

APC

Where did ABC news find these people? From the Vietnamese government? Remember this is the totalitarian government with the reeducation camps etc.

The canal pictured in the Nightline footage was not wide enought for the 50 foot long Swift Boats to be maneuvering in. Are we to presume those thatch huts have survived 30 or 35 years intact.

This smells like it was produced by a journalism school classmate of Mary Mapes. You know, graduates of the "re-creation school" of journalism.

Something is missing from the story!

They call this propaganda.

The Nightline premise is "it could have happened like this - so there!".

There is no reporting here. No digging. The issue really isn't what happened in Vietnam. The issue is John Kerry's actions in creating his own image. Who wrote the after action report?

ABCNews = no credibility - amateurish.

Maybe ABC News should do what the Washington Post did in regards to the Swift Boats -- you remember, assign an education reporter to the case. All those pentagon and military reporters must be really busy reporting on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan from their desks in Washington DC and New York!

JC

So the guy who was killed name was Ba Thang. Interesting! The one thing I remember from the 90 day Vietnamese language course 30+ years ago is how to address women. An unmarried woman or a Miss is addressed as Co a married woman or a Mrs. is addressed as Ba! Are the audio tapes available? Maybe somebody should listen to them. I think at best ABC has been had.

Robert Crawford

Has ABC ever interviewed the POWs who say they felt betrayed by Kerry's Winter Soldier lies?

GT

Shorter summary: Yet ANOTHER source that shows the Swifties made most of the stuff up.

I guess all the pro-Kerry eyewitnesses (which outnumber the anti Kerry eyewitnesses) and all the official documents agreeing is not enough. Now we find that the people on the other side have the same recollections.

Oh well, I'm sure the tinfoil-hat Right will continue with this silliness.

Abu Qa'Qa

IMHO, Mary MApes is now producing forgeries for ABC in her spare time.

fastone

To GT,

It's always nice to have "source" that is not subject to cross examination. First question I want to explore is how these people remember something that occurrred nearly 40 years ago.

If it's fair to question the recollections of the Swift group, why isn't it acceptable have some healthy skepticism about a news organization that by its own admission has based one report on documents that, to be charitable, cannot be verified. Further that organization still employs Mary Mapes, who according to ABC has been chasing the Bush National Guard story for 5 years - an obsession that Ken Starr would envy.

Lastly, if you are going to make claims of vindication for Mr. Kerry, let's get all of the facts out. Mr. Kerry sign the Form 180. BTW, why isn't ABC pursuing that angle?

cahmd

As a followup, shouldn't Niteline interview members of the Northvietnamese and Viet Cong delgations that Lt. Kerry met with in Paris? It would be very illuminating.
Of course time is very short and ABC would not want to upset the electorate with too much "objectivity".

TM

GT - if you read this Washington Post story, you maybe a bit less adamant that "all the pro-Kerry eyewitnesses (which outnumber the anti Kerry eyewitnesses) and all the official documents agreeing is not enough."

And I wonder whether you have followed the debate closely enough to realize that some of the "official documents" were very probably written by Kerry himself?

When Nick Kristof wrote a column where he pretended to have looked at the Swiftees claims, it was pretty obvious that he hadn't. That is my general impression of the left on this subject - "maybe this rebuts it" very quickly gets inflated to "it has been rebutted".

And howlers like this about Kerry's shrapnel in the Paper of Record do not reassure me.

BTW, the quick dismissal is certainly how I approached the "Bush AWOL" story - I spent about an hour looking at it once, found a few righty sites that seemed to offer plausible rebuttals, and tuned out. Of course, Bush wasn't running on his TANG record, blah, blah, blah.

But if you are seriously arguing that Kerry has answered the questions, or that the questions aren't plausible, that can only be ignorance. Where is his Form 180?

And I have never heard a good explanation of the reporting and documentation for Kerry's first Purple Heart. If you have one, bring it on.

Cecil Turner

"And I have never heard a good explanation of the reporting and documentation for Kerry's first Purple Heart."

Yes, the Purple Hearts are the most troubling part of his record. Decorations for valor are subjective, and some considerations are unrelated to individual merit (i.e., pour encourager les autres). And even if the accusations are true (that he polished up the after action reports to make himself look good), he'd be neither the first nor the worst offender in that regard.

But Purple Hearts are an objective award, based on facts. His first and third both have problems. Both appear to be self-inflicted, with little or no relation to enemy contact. And the first was apparently not approved by the person who would normally do so (Hibbard). And since the combination got his tour cut short by 2/3, it's a legitimate issue.

Focusing on the Silver Star incident--where the majority of the facts are not really in dispute--at best misses the point.

GT

Tom

I think we've been through this before and I don't see much benefit restarting the whole debate. I never did a 'quick dismissal'. On this site and others I went over point by point all the medal-related accusations.

If you still want to believe the Swifties on this I doubt anything I say or post will make a difference.

PG


There are some interesting clues in the discussion on the swiftvets.com website of how ABC's account of the Silver Star might have come about, an account that is quite different from even Mr. Kerry's recollection in his own biography:

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12986&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

or http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13011


and

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13011

The October 13, 2004 New York Sun article by Thomas Lipscomb is also of interest. See discussion of this article at
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12783 .

Reid

Sign the 180! For crying out loud, why don't they ask him to release his records? (Never mind, it's a rhetorical question.)

R C Dean

If I was a Kerry op, I would be pissed at ABC's amateurish attempt to help his campaign. This just puts the whole Vietnam issue, which is a dead weight on the Kerry campaign, on top for another news cycle.

Pissing matches with the Swifties do not help Kerry. They might hurt him a little, by reminding people about this whole kerfuffle. Kerry needs other stories now, and the Swifties are once again sucking his oxygen out of the room, thanks to his friends at ABC.

Cecil Turner

"This just puts the whole Vietnam issue, which is a dead weight on the Kerry campaign, on top for another news cycle."

Yes, this is absolutely not help. And I think the Kerry campaign response ("liars!") hurts more than the stories. It'll be interesting to see how the upcoming Stolen Honor and related ads will play out.

TM

GT, good point, you were a part of those memorable brawls in August. (Hmm, not memorable to me, evidently...).

That said, the new developments in the Bronze Star (Kerry probaly wrote the after-action) and the first Purple Heart (Schachte's emergence, and the Navy's admission that they have documents we have not seen) suggest that the debate has moved on.

WYNN

HAVE SEEN NO COVERAGE ON FOX YET.
WHY ISN'T THE GOP SCREAMING??
WHERE IS A LEAKER WHEN WE NEED ONE??
SEN WARNER WAS SEC OF NAVY, CAN'T UNDERSTAND
WHY HE CAN'T, OR OTHER OFFICERS THAT HAVE
SIGNED OFF ON EITHER REPORTS OR THE CITATIONS CAN'T DEMAND FULL STORY.
PROTECTING THIS #@$!! DEMEANS THE MEDALS
AND SERVICE OF ALL, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Pax

As someone involved with the POW/MIA accounting effort, I would just like to point out that the idea the Vietnamese who were interviewed actually remember the incident in question is laughable! Hell, we have one hell of a time finding people who remember actual aircraft crashes (certainly more memorable due to noise and the more infrequent nature vice automatic weapons fire). These people supposedly remember a shooting on a specific day almost 40 years later? A shooting of one person? Jeebus, how many shootings were there in that area over the course of time? These people remember one specific instance? BS!

This is baloney anyway. Who cares about his medals? The real issue is his betrayal of our POWs with his congressional testimony/lies. That's considerably more important and that is irrefutable! Ask any POW and they'll tell you the same...Kerry lost his "band of brothers" membership card when he did that and there is no probation or parole, he never gets it back.

robert lewis

Kerry's version was supported by that newspaperman from Chicago who served with him . He never talked about until this year this year and then just once and he was with Kerry at the time of this incident .Enough said .

robert lewis

Kerry's version was supported by that newspaperman from Chicago who served with him . He never talked about until this year this year and then just once and he was with Kerry at the time of this incident .Enough said .

TM

I put in a link to William Rood's version, thanks. Rood seems to have the same misunderstanding that ABC does - there is no "Swift" version to contrast with a "Kerry" version. All we have is "Kerry on the citation" versus "Kerry in the Globe".

Jake

Here's where the story was originally floated...

Ex-Viet Cong soldier recalls swift boats
By MARGIE MASON
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Tuesday, August 31, 2004 · Last updated 10:46 a.m. PT

Now, who's Margie Mason? Do a Google friends...a writer for "People's Weekly World".

Koppel and "People's Weekly World"...perfect together.

Patrick R. Sullivan

Rood's version isn't that much different from the "single VC' version. He claims there were two VC near the river and both ran. I also agree with Pax that it is risible the people in the village would remember this specific incident over 35 years ago.

There were ambushed all the time during the war. But they can remember the one Kerry was in on....thanks to a helpful government official. "Okay folks look into the idiot American's camera and tell the story we rehearsed last night.", is more like it.

Yes, GT you were in on this before. And you got clobbered back then too.

GT

Tom,

If you still believe all this nonsense (and there is no other way to describe it) I doubt anything will change your mind.

Cecil Turner

Nice factual argument. Compelling.

Gabriel Chapman

How nice of them to do a story that is almost impossible for the blogsphere to double check with the sources used. Maybe this will be the new tactic when attempting to pull a Rather. Just use your vast fortune to ensure that simple blogging folk who do not have access to vast expense accounts and who cannot just hop on a plane and hire a translator to double check your "story", are out of the loop just because you can outresource them with on the ground reporting in many instances. Its the perfect uncheckable story at this point. Sure we can point out the minor discrepencies and inconsistancies, but we can never fully debunk it, at least not fast enough.

ray

It is more likely the man was shot in the back then in the chest. The entrance wound in the back would be small but the exit wound from the chest would be large. It is easy for someone to mistake the exit wound for the entrance because of the extent of the damage.

TomCom

OK, OK, I couldn't resist: "Print The Legend", ABC! "THE MAN WHO SHOT BA THANG! Ah, yes, I remember it well.

TomCom

TM

If you still believe all this nonsense...

Well, I believe Kerry has not signed the Form 180 - your position is what?

I believe it is darn near impossible to find a mention of his failure to sign this form in a Big Media story - your position is what?

I believe that when the Navy reviewed his medals and concluded that all of the paperwork was in order, they looked at documents we have not seen - your position is what?

Changing my mind would be easy - all Kerry has to do is honor the promise he made to Tim Russert and the American people last spring.

Meanwhile, yes, I believe something is being hidden.

ed

Hmmm.

"It is more likely the man was shot in the back then in the chest. The entrance wound in the back would be small but the exit wound from the chest would be large. It is easy for someone to mistake the exit wound for the entrance because of the extent of the damage."

Unless he was shot with an M-16. Under some circumstances the .223 bullet from an M-16 doesn't tumble when it makes a wound channel. Instead it can maintain it's stability and ends up poking a rather small hole.

Which is why a lot of people are looking at abandoning the .223 for a 6.5mm Grendel.

Cecil Turner

I can't get too excited about which way the guy was facing when he got hit. Either way, it was a righteous shoot. The thing that leaps out from the story are these quotes:

"This guy could have dispatched us in a second . . ."
"He was running away with a live B-40 . . . he was a combatant, he had an armed weapon."
and, from the Globe story:
Kerry stood face to face with the guerrilla carrying the rocket . . . Short believes the guerrilla didn't fire because he was too close . . .
From the SS citation:
capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber
Okay, maybe I'm a cynical bas****, but when somebody beats the crap out of an peripheral point three times, I usually ask: Why? Did these guys check to see if his weapon was loaded before shooting at him? Why bother? The Nightline report has a similar bit of circumlocution:
"Her husband Tam said the man who fired the B-40 rocket was hit . . ."
"None of the villagers . . . saw . . . the man who fired the B-40 . . ."
"Nobody seems to remember that."
Okay, here's the question: why does everybody remember the dude who was killed with his weapon still unfired, but can't put a name to the guy who actually got a round off?

As you probably guessed, I've got a theory: the reason nobody can remember his name is because he didn't exist . . . the two grenadiers are the same guy. And while there's nothing wrong with shooting the guy who just fired his single-shot rocket launcher at you (the Geneva Convention does not require you let him reload) it doesn't make for quite as good a story.

Johnnie Dontos

"Ted Koppel's first interview about the Internet" 1997


Very prophetic
Johnnie Dontos
Woodway, WA


Ted Koppel:

Will online news 'bite us in the ass'?

The veteran "Nightline" anchor has some words of warning for online reporters eager to reinvent the wheel of journalism

By J.D. Lasica

May 8, 1997


“If we are now moving into an era in which ... speed is the main criteria of putting something online, then I think that's dangerous.”

For complete story:
http://www.jdlasica.com/interviews/koppel.html


Jabba the Tutt

I thought it was hilarious, when NPR sent a reporter to the canals of the Mekong Delta and got shopkeepers and villagers to support Kerry by telling us that Bush started the Iraq War. NPR thinks illiterate villagers in commie Vietnam should inform us on how to vote.

But Ted Koppel pegs the laugh meter with this one. According to John Kerry, there was one Viet Cong guy there, who he killed, but Ted and the boys at ABC find numerous witnesses to a short firefight in some anonymous waterway in the Mekong Delta. Man, you can't pay enough money for laughs like this. Woo hoo!

drjohn

This is letter I sent to Nightline. All Nightline really did was impeach the words of Kranish, Brinkley, and Kerry himself.


Mr. Koppel

it was interesting watching you attempt to dismiss John O'Neill. I heard you say that the after action reports and the Navy citations support the assertion that there was a "numerically superior force" that Kerry faced on 28 Feb 1969.

In fact, the first version of the Silver Star citation makes no mention of a "numerically superior force." Neither does the second. It is only in the third version of the citation in which the enemy force miraculously expands. That the citations were twice re-written is itself an anomaly- which Nightline for some reason (wink, wink) saw as not important to report. It would be of considerable interest to know how the enemy force grew over time, as the third citation was re-issued (that's right, RE-issued, in 1985). They had to be re-issued for an undisclosed reason, which some assert was a less-than-honorable discharge.

You also made reference to the after-action reports of 28 Feb 1969 supporting the numerically superior force.

The Spot Report for 28 Feb 1969 reads this way-

PCF REMAINED AT ORIGINAL AMBUSH SITE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR TROOPS. PCF 94 AND 23 PROCEEDED TO VQ 984831 AND THEN TURNED TO RETURN TO PCF 43 LOCATION. AT V1 9843O A B-40 ROCKET EXPLODED IN WATER CLOSE ABOARD PCF 94 BLOWING OUT WINDOW FRAME. BOTH UNITS RECEIVED HEAVY SMALL ARMS FIRE AND OTC AGAIN CALLED UNITS TO TURN INTO FIRE AND CHARGE AMBUSH SITE. PCF 43 WAS CALLED TO AND MOVED IMMEDIATELY TO ASSIST. PCF 94 BEACHED IN CENTER OF AMBUSH IN FRONT OF SMALL PATH WHEN VC SPRUNG UP FROM BUNKER 10 FEET FROM UNIT. MAN RAN WITH WEAPON TOWARDS HOOTCH. FORWARD M-60 GUNNER WOUNDED HIM IN LEG. OINC JUMPED ASHORE AND GAVE PURSUIT WHILE OTHER UNITS SATURATED AREA WITH WITH FIRE AND BEACHED PLACING ASSULT PARTIES ASHORE. ONIC OF PCF 94 CHASED VC INLAND BEHIND HOOTCH AND SHOT HIM WHILE HE FLEED CAPTURING ONE B-40 ROCKET LAUNCHER WITH ROUND IN CHAMBER.

There is no mention of a "numerically superior force." It was written in 1969 immedately after the incident. Where exactly did you get your information? It is incorrect. Neither the Spot Report nor the first two versions of the Silver Star citations make any mention of a "numerically superior force." Only in reports written, or rewritten, much later do any of these interesting little facts appear.

The after-action report on Kerry's own website reads: 28 FEB 1969 Bay Hap River
Three PCFs were traveling up the Bay Hap River with 70 South Vietnamese Militia investigating an area where the boats were ambushed the previous night. During the patrol, the boats came under heavy fire from the shore. Kerry, serving as the Officer in Tactical Command of the mission, ordered the units to turn toward the fire and beach. As the boats approached shore, more than 20 Viet Cong troops stood up and ran. They were quickly overrun when the Marines troops reached the shore. While the Militia searched the area, PCFs 23 and 94 left to investigate another site where an Army advisor reported gunshots. Returning from the site, a B-40 rocket exploded close to PCF94, blowing out one of the windows. Kerry again ordered the units to turn into the fire and charge the ambush site. PCF 94 landed in the center of ambush and a man jumped up holding a B-40 rocket launcher and started to run. The forward M-60 gunner on PCF94 wounded him in the leg as Kerry jumped off the boat and chased him inland behind a hooch and shot him. Marines swept the area, and received fire from snipers and small arms that was suppressed with the assistance of mortars and gunfire from the swiftboats. The landing parties found vast stores of rice, ammunition and clothing. The boats were fired on one additional time as they were heading back down the river. The site of the second ambush was believed to be a major Viet Cong supply point. Kerry received the Silver Star for this operation.

Again, no mention of any "numerically superior force." You specifically said that the after action reports support your claim of numerical superiority. It does NOT. You lied, Mr. Koppel.

To suggest that the Communists of Vietnam do not have an agenda is patently absurd. John Kerry was the best friend the Vietnamese Communists ever had, and it is why his picture hangs today in the Hall of Heroes in Ho Chi Minh City, something you clearly did not want O'Neill to make known.

You broadcast an essentially false report. You accepted the word of the Vietnamese over that of the decorated Swift Boat vets and even that of John Kerry himself. You have omitted critical details that change entirely the perspective. It was totally dishonest.

Sincerely

Forbes

Isn't this ABC report a diversion--the Silver Star being the least questionable award (from the swiftvets standpoint, anyways). Perhaps a little embellished, as the storyline improves as you proceed to the second and third citations, but there's not significant difference in all the versions. The underlying Swiftvet charge being that everything was embellished, and that the entire storyline is suspect because it was primarily written by JK.

Yet ABC supposes that 35 years after the fact, a couple of 77 and 80 year old impoverished Vietnamese peasants can identify, and by name, the junior grade lieutenant that shot (or not) a comrade of theirs--from one particular incident in a war lasting many years where they undoubtedly lost many of their war-fighting comrades. Laugh. Out. Loud.

John Dunshee

ABC sent a crew to Vietnam. The only way to locate anyone is through the Vietnamese government, a group of Americans wandering around was unlikely to find anything. John Kerry was instrumental in gaining normalization of relations between the U.S. and Vietnam. I believe that the business interests of the Vietnamese government are handled by Kerry's cousin. I recall there was some consternation about that when Clinton announced the normalization. If you go looking for something in SE Asia, you're probably going to find it.

I was in Bangkok in 2002 and was down at Soi Cowboy, a street with numerous bars and nightclubs. I was asking around trying to find anyone who remembered my mother-in-law who had run a bar there back in the seventies and eighties. Imagine my surprise when a woman walked up to me and announced that she was my mother-in-law. Mukda had died in 1991. She always looked good for her age, but I didn't think she could pull this off. The woman had misunderstood what I was looking for and thought that someone had given me a name for someone to see. She was ready to supply what I was looking for.

Everyone finds what they want. Want to visit old battlefields? Not a problem. Interested in covering the drug trade? not a problem. Want to do a story about abandoned children? Not a problem. Want to do a story about how bad things are now? Not a problem. Want to do a story about how things are better than ever? Not a problem.

The ABC crew announce what they were looking for, and someone saw fit to provide it. Not a problem.

Tom Robinson

It's very clear that you aren't open to new facts. Anything that suggest a conflict with your opinions is rejected. Further comments aren't worth my time

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