C'mon, Ask A Tough One

Via Glenn, we see that the IraqPundit and Ann Althouse are wondering how (or whether) the Dems will push back against the recent pronouncement by Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that

"[Bush's] defeat is actually an obvious victory for the Iranian nation."

and

"With the scandalous defeat of America's policies in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Afghanistan, America's threats are empty threats on an international scale."

If the past five years is any guide, the Dems will respond by whining that Khamenei is attacking their patriotism.

MORE:  And we certainly expect a response, yes?  The "Fight Club" Dems are adamant that the only way to deal with a bully is to punch back hard.  But that may only apply when the bully is Karl Rove.

Comments

[lurker]

They are not going to do anything.

Why?

Because they will be busy investigating, subpoenaing, and impeaching everyone in the Bush administration.

[Gabriel]

Who cares?

Unbelievable the mess Bush has created, huh?

It took time but finally Americans realized.

Heh, it took the GOP more than 40 years to win the House but Bush only 6 to turn the GOP into a minority.

[TexasToast]

Just wondering .....

Do we need an Iranian corollary to Godwin's law?

Stalin also made a deal with Hitler. Later,
both Roosevelt and Churchill had good things to say about Stalin - after that, things changed a bit.

IIRC, one of my first post on this board was to point out that Robert Mugabe was a staunch ally of GWB on the issue of gay marriage. Telling, n'est-ce pas?

[MayBee]

IIRC, one of my first post on this board was to point out that Robert Mugabe was a staunch ally of GWB on the issue of gay marriage. Telling, n'est-ce pas?
----
Sounds like the beginning of a joke. What do GWB, Robert Mugabe, and the Dali Lama have in common.....

[Gabriel]

Texas,

The GOP and its blogging friends tried using the Dems-as-soft-on-terror with the end result that they are now in the minority and Americans no longer trust them. So by all means I hope they keep at it.

[Pete]

Thanks to the actions of Bush, the Iranians are in a win-win situation.

If Bush wins then the US goes deeper and deeper in the quagmire.

If Bush loses, then the Iranians can claim victory.

And regardless of the US election outcome - Iran's arch enemy Saddam is gone, Iran's influence in the region is on the rise, and with oil 2-3 times the pre-war levels, the mullahs are flush with cash.

[clarice]

So, they're hard on terror.

I hope so, but I rather doubt it.

[Gabriel]

Pete,

Exactly. This is the greatest foreign policy fiasco in modern US history. No wonder the country decided these clowns can't be trusted any more.

[Terrye]

Texas Toast:

My new Congressman is Brad Ellsworth, Democrat and he made a point of telling us here in the 8th District that he was not a supporter of gay marriage, no siree. Kind of makes you wonder.

[topsecretk9]

Uh..but wait...Bill Clinton was tough on terror, but our boys in uniform just kept taking it on the chin and life for him and he bombed Iraq...for nothing I guess...thanks Gab for clearing that up...it has always been a wonder.

[Terrye]

Gabriel:

The Iranians applaud the Democrats win and all you can do is blame Bush. Wow. That is the default for you guys isn't it? Stub yur toe, blame Bush.

It is interesting that the Democrats can get their asses whipped a lot worse than the GOP and it is either a minor setback or they were robbed.

The GOP loses just enough seats to lose the majority and it is suppsed to be a mandate for the Dems. I don't think so. One up in the Senate and a dozen or so up in Congress is not a huge majority. In fact I can remember a time when Democrats could carry a majority of a hundred in the House and a dozen in the Senate. What happened to you guys?

As for Bush's socalled debacle, well if you are really into taking talking points from the mad mullahs it might be worth noting that the previous administration did nothing to even slow down Iran whatsoever.

Clinton completetly failed with the Oslo accords. The Democrats allowed the Taliban to harbor AlQaida and terrorize its people while planning attacks against the United States. And in Iraq they let the UN food for oil program be turned into the largest scam in history while they threatened Saddam Hussein but refused to resolve the situation one way or another.

Glass houses and all that.

BTW, Bush won his election and there was a war in Iraq at the time. I think people are oversimplifying things here.

Now the question is will Pelosi have the guts to tell the people who would like nothing better than to wipe us off the face of the earth..that she is not their friend. Can she even bother to do that much?

This is the death to America crowd, the last time they called a Democrat Jimmy Carter was president and he went belly up. We all know what that lead to.

Al Qaida says this vote means we are defeated, they also say they will not rest until they destroy the White House. Well someday a Democrat would like to be in that White House. Will they defend it? Or well they just smirk and sneer and say there is nothing but big bad GOP to defend it against. The terrorists are our friends.

[ed]

Hmmm.

Actually I think the big issue that'll cause the most ruckus within the Democrat's is gun control. A lot of coastal liberal Democrats want to really push gun control again. But a lot of the new Democrats in the House and Senate ran on the Bible-n-Rifle platform so that issue is extremely dangerous for their long term career in politics.

[Seamus]

I'm enjoying reading your posts, Mr. Maguire. It was nice meeting you up in CT. If you're ever in DC again, let me know.

[topsecretk9]

People democrats don't listen to yet claim to have oh so much respect for:

Meanwhile, Laura Lee Donoho emails: "My son emails me from Iraq that he and his fellow troops are in a funk about the resignation of Don Rumsfeld. This is the first time in a long time that President Bush has really pissed me off."

and

...Troops expressed little pleasure at the departure of the man responsible for their protracted deployment to a hostile country where 2,839 of their comrades have died.

Indeed, some members of the 101st Airborne Division and other troops approached by The Times as they prepared to fly home from Baghdad airport yesterday expressed concern that Robert Gates, Mr Rumsfeld’s successor, and the Democrat-controlled Congress, might seek to wind down their mission before it was finished.

Mr Rumsfeld “made decisions, he stuck with them and he did what he thought was right, whether people agreed with it, liked it, or not”, Staff Sergeant Frank Notaro said. He insisted that Iraq was better off now than before the war.

Staff Sergeant Michael Howard said: “It’s a blow to the military. He was a good Secretary of Defence. He kept us focused. He kept the leaders focused. It’s going to be hard to fill his shoes.”...

Clue Dems....brothers in arms would like to finish the progress they started and ensure their lost brothers gains are for naught.

They believe, let them.

[topsecretk9]

Staff Sergeant Frank Notaro

insisted that Iraq was better off now than before the war.

Why argue Gab?

[SunnyDay]

Maybe put one of those Bush masks on Ahmadinnerjacket?

[ed]

Hmmmm.

1. Democrats didn't win in this last election cycle. The Republicans lost. There's an enormous difference between the two and it's entirely due, my opinion, because the conservative base lost confidence in the Republicans.

2. Democrats better hope that the new Sec Def is somehow given the Golden Touch vis a vis Iraq. Because it's the Democrats that'll have to approve of his nomination and his ideas on how to deal with Iraq. And if his ideas turns Iraq into a sectarian bloodbath or or a genocidal destruction of the Sunni or even the ignition of a Sunni/Shia'a religious war, they'll have to bear a large portion of the blame. Particularly since they were so instrumental in getting rid of Rumsfeld.

[Terrye]

tp:

Gab does not give a damn about the Iraqis, he yearns for the stability of mass graves. And the good old days of the dot come 90's. He has slept since then and does not remember what it was like.

I remember in the 90's when a million people died in Rwanda and another 2 million or so died in the Sudan and the fighting between Israel and her neighbors seemed to never end and 250,000 people died in the former Yugoslavia and Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of his own people and Afganistan completely collapsed and Pakistan got the bomb and yet somehow now things are a debacle.

[lurker]

Pete,

Exactly. This is the greatest foreign policy fiasco in modern US history. No wonder the country decided these clowns can't be trusted any more.

Yuppers, falling on deaf ears. All in denial. Neither of you recognize that this is one of the greatest foreign policies ever in the US history. We already no longer trust the democrats you voted into the office, especially the moonbats.

[Terrye]

ed:

It was not the conservative base that did not vote for the Republicans, it was the Independents who were sick to death of the antics of Congress and wanted a change. They did not left, they went to the center.

I am tired of hearing how the GOP would win if they just started acting like Pat Buchanan. People are sick of ideologues, they want pragmatic people. They do not want loons in either direction.

[anonymous]

Could someone tell me where in the U.S. Constitution I will find the section that says Staff Sargeants decide foreign policy and oversee military operations?

[topsecretk9]

Niiiccee Anon...YEAH EFF the Staff Sergeant and all his brothers... he's just a dummy anyways...

Troops fear Rumsfeld's exit will end their Iraq mission

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2446536,00.html#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=World

PLural...HAPPY VETERANS DAY!!!!

[lurker]

terrye, I wouldn't want to see the Pat Buchanans in control of the federal government.

is this anonymous and anonymous trademark the same person?

[anonymous]

.. and ensure their lost brothers gains are for naught.

Posted by: topsecretk9 | November 10, 2006 at 09:36 PM

The truth will out.

[P.S. It will always be Armistice Day to me.]

[topsecretk9]

Typo Anon...you know what I meant...but then again I get the feeling you'd be pleased as punch if their work and sacrifice were for naught.

[lurker]

And you wouldn't like the truth, mous.

[lurker]

Not Going To Bite

What do you think?

[anonymous]

A typographical error ? Not hardly. Consider, if you will, 'unconscious authorial intent.'

It is a crime and a shame that the great work and sacrifice of many trusting souls has been wasted by callous and corrupt men who conned a nation into an illegal and amoral enterprise.

[Terrye]

I am not sure if there is one anonymous or if anonymous has multiple personality disorder but whoever or whatever he/she/it is...I am getting bored. same old same old.

[topsecretk9]

Cuz theeyr stoopid thay shudda talkeedd to u anon.

[lurker]

What callous and corrupted men that conned our nation into an illegal and amoral enterprise?

There weren't any, dear mous. It continues to fall on your deaf ears. And you continue to deny the truth. Besides, you wouldn't like the hard and harsh truth once you finally get it.

[anonymous]

And you wouldn't like the truth, mous.

Posted by: lurker | November 10, 2006 at 10:03 PM

And you wouldn't know "the truth" (whatever that might be when it's at home) if it kicked you in your rapidly-spreading backside.

[Sue]

Consider, if you will, 'unconscious authorial intent.'

I think that was the argument we used against Jon Carry. He still needs to halp them.

[lurker]

Your posts, mous, clearly shows that your backbone is rather weak.

[anonymous]

I am getting bored. same old same old.

Posted by: Terrye | November 10, 2006 at 10:08 PM\

Me too. Maybe you could change your tune now and then.

[lurker]

Terrye's tune is just fine. It is yours, mous, that need to improve.

[anonymous]

Your posts, mous, clearly shows that your backbone is rather weak.

Posted by: lurker | November 10, 2006 at 10:11 PM

Quite the opposite. If that were true, I would have long ago signed on to your dream of a Holy War.

[lurker]

Ah...you finally admitted the denial of the truth!

[anonymous]

Even you, my dear "lurker" (if that's your real name) have no idea what you are trying to say.

"Truth" (in political terms) is 'changeable stuff.'

[Terrye]

So I take it the trolls do not think that Pelosi should respond in anyway. She should not get outraged and say that the Democratic Party stands firm against America's enemies and will not be used by those enemies for a cheap propaganda stunt. Anything?

Oh yes, I forget...Bush is the enemy. The next door neighbor with the Bush/Cheney bumbper sticker is the enemy. Not that poor misunderstood young man dancing around someone's mutilated headless corpse brandishing a knife while he screeches God is Great in Arabic.

He is only mad because the Jews stole his land or his honor or because George removed that charming dictator and mass murderer from power after the crazy bastard tried to kill a president and shot at our planes on a daily basis. If we just kiss up to the terrorists and abandon the Jews, maybe they will go away.

[lurker]

Yes, I do. You just don't want to face the harsh truth.

[anonymous]

It is not Mrs. Pelosi's place to respond, as the voice of the U.S. government, to foreign threats or any other international issues.
That is the purview of the Executive Branch .... President, State Department, et al.

[lurker]

Funny how the Arabs continue to think the Jews stole their land when Mohammad suddenly discovered Islam in year 400 to 600 A.D.

The democrats have already abandoned Israel and its Jews.

[Terrye]

That last comment lacked something in the grammar and syntax department. I must be tired. Time for bed.

[topsecretk9]

Anon

What will you do if Pelosi and Co stay the course?

[anonymous]

If we just kiss up to the terrorists and abandon the Jews, maybe they will go away.

Posted by: Terrye | November 10, 2006 at 10:17 PM

By "Jews," I will assume you mean the Israelis. And so, you have no need for concern -- Israel has nuclear weapons.

After all, they were perfectly capable of successfully invading a neighboring country without the aid of U.S. troops.

[lurker]

Now that's hilarious coming from you, mous!

Funny mous thought that the "That is the purview of the Executive Branch .... President, State Department, et al." is considered an expansion of the Executive privileges on Bush's part.

People still want to know what Pelosi will say as the voice of the Democratic Party.

[lurker]

Ah but we provided aid to Israel during their war against Hizbollah.

And you have no desire in helping Israel?

[Terrye]

anonymous:

yeah right.

The State Department should respond by saying Pelosi is not a coward. Puhleaze.

If these people can not even stand up to some loud mouth jihadis calling them cowards [and that is just what they did] then exactly what are they going to do when they actually have to make responsible decisions?

They aren't in the back seat anymore, remember. Just stabbing the other party in the back and bitching won't cut it.

[anonymous]

Funny how the Arabs continue to think the Jews stole their land when Mohammad suddenly discovered Islam in year 400 to 600 A.D.

Posted by: lurker | November 10, 2006 at 10:20 PM

Funny too how some Jews discovered Christianity circa 50 to 100 C.E.