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Syl

It wasn't a botched joke, it was a Freudian slip. Kerry still thinks it's Vietnam.

Daniel DiRito

See a tongue-in-cheek posting that employs the same GOP tactic used in relation to Senator Kerry to creatively interpret remarks made by the President in the most unfavorable manner...here:

www.thoughttheater.com

Syl

That doesn't mean they aren't intelligent kids and I happen to think our military is better off with the sort of troop it has.

Condescending rubbish and a lie. Sort of troops? What an idiot you are!

The level of education of our troops is actually higher than our population as a whole.

Dollars to donuts you believe someone just MUST be stupid to VOLUNTEER to serve in the military, to serve in Iraq.

Because YOU believe it's beneath YOU to serve in the military. So, instead of blaming the troops for making a stupid decision to volunteer, you blame their stupid decision to volunteer on a lack of education.

Shows how stupid you are to think it is stupid to volunteer to serve your country!

Democrats begone!

clarice

Some of the brightest, best educated kids I know enlisted after 9/11.
I guarantee you they are smarter and worked harder in college than did that privileged pompous ass.

Clyde

It's been funny watching the Democrat spokespeople furiously trying to spin what Kerry said. Alan Colmes was almost manic last night, talkingamileaminutefasterfasterfaster in repeating the same things over and over again. I saw one on Fox News earlier doing the same thing while the pretty Republican strategist, Edwinna something-or-other, smiled beatifically. (Although she's not as hot as Mary Katharine Ham, who was on both CNN and Fox News yesterday. Yow!!)

As I've noted elsewhere, on November 8th, Kerry is probably going to be as popular as a California arsonist during Santa Ana season.

Extraneus

Bravo Cecilia! Honesty really is the best policy, even if none of your soul sisters is willing to try it. ;-)

shamen

That was a good one Don,you sure know how to take these rethugs down.

Neo

"He's [Cheney's] such a real son of a bitch, he just enjoys a confrontation," Rangel fumed

Almost missed this gem.

Gabriel Sutherland

I hear there's a hole in Iraq formerly occupied by Saddam that the Democrats could stuff Lurch in.

Either that, or there's got to be some windsurfing near the Tropic of Capricorn.

clarice

Let's take a break from all this and wrote Kerry letters of support, reminding him he shouldn't let the VRWC get him down, that he should keep up the good fight. I'm adding a postscript that whatever the candidates say, they really want him to go to Md, Pa, Tenn and Mo to campaign for them.

clarice

**Write not wrote***

Other Tom

Here's a dose of "truth" for Celia and Extraneous to chew over:

"In summary, we found that, on average, 1999 recruits were more highly educated than the equiv­alent general population, more rural and less urban in origin, and of similar income status. We did not find evidence of minority racial exploitation (by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas). We did find evidence of a 'Southern military tradition' in that some states, notably in the South and West, provide a much higher proportion of enlisted troops by population.

"The household income of recruits generally matches the income distribution of the American population. There are slightly higher proportions of recruits from the middle class and slightly lower proportions from low-income brackets. However, the proportion of high-income recruits rose to a disproportionately high level after the war on ter­rorism began, as did the proportion of highly edu­cated enlistees."
(Heritage Foundation study, 2005)

Maybe Celia and Extraneous should find a new sport.

Other Tom

Pardon me--I meant "Cecelia."

clarice

Right wing nut jobs:
"Rep. Harold Ford

"He needs to apologize to our troops"


Sen. Hillary Clinton

“What Sen. Kerry said was inappropriate”


Gov. Janet Napolitano

“It's just wrong"


U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez

“I think his comments were inappropriate”


New Jersey Senate President Richard Codey

“I think it's offensive”


Senate candidate Jon Tester

“Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid”


North Carolina State Democratic Party chairman Jerry Meek

“John Kerry's botched joke was wrong and he should apologize”


Congressional candidate Bruce Braley

"I believe that Senator Kerry's brief statement was inappropriate”


Congressional candidate John Pavich

“I believe he should apologize to the brave men and women in service.”______

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTQzZTMzMjAyYjQ4NzcxMjE1OTkxNTc2YWQ5YzI5ZjQ=


Bob

The gift that keeps on giving. The press keeps it going!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85xpMfECnjs&eurl=>Tony Snow throws a lifeline!

anon

Don

It's stupid games like this with Kerry while Centcom says Iraq is approaching chaos that have caused Americans to lose confidence imho.


The Democrats entire strategy seems to involve linking every Republican to Foley and his colorful IM's, and you are complaining that the GOP is playing stupid games? The Dems have run the most substance free campaign I have ever seen, relying on their pals in the media to drag them over the finish line.

Don

The Dems are about to take over the House anon. I'm trying to throw you guys a lifeline!

Larry J

Kurtz said, There isn't anybody, including in the Bush administration, who believes that Kerry meant to insult the soldiers in Iraq with his clumsy joke that has given the Republicans a big fat target after months on the defensive.

That such a stupid statement. Has Kurtz asked anyone who actually listened to what Kerry said whether we believe he meant to insult the troops? Is he so arrogant that he believes he understands what everyone in the country believes?

I listened to what Kerry actually said and refused to apologize for. I listened to his "Winter Soldier" testimony in 1971. It isn't at all hard for me to believe he meant exactly what he said. And I'll stack up my two master's degrees against his "D" average education any day. Kerry is convinced he's the smartest man in any room but, other than being able to marry rich women, has done very little to prove he's so smart.

Gary Maxwell

Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid”

I think Jon Tester is misquoted. He meant Don instead. And his sock puppet Shamoo or whatever.

Don

Leahy yourself, Clymer.

Walter

Cecelia,

I have personal experience with the professionalism of the current service.

I employed a young man (19 years old) to help me rehab a house two years ago.

He could lift 300+ pounds, was a decent shot (bagged his limit every deer season), and had a father who left the Marines as a Staff Sergeant. He had two uncles in the services (Navy, Army).

He had no convictions, arrests, or disciplinary citations of any kind.

He had been home-schooled (and received a degree from the acrediting body). I tutored him for the GED, which he passed on his first try.

In decending order, the Services said:

Army:
Two semesters of college (at least 24 credit hours) with a C average or better. Pass Armed Forces aptitude test(Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Battery--ASVAB).

Navy:
Same college requirement. Higher score on ASVAB. Looser fitness requirements.

Marine Corps:
Same college. Higher score on ASVAB. Strict fitness requirements.

Air Force:
Minimum associates degree. Loosest fitness requirements.

Again, this was just to enlist!

He is now two years into the carpenter's union apprenticeship program. He may be able to sign up if he gets his journeyman's card, but by then he'll probably be less interested in giving up $50K/yr to earn $15K in the service of his country.

clarice

Oops, he just actually apologized--there goes the nutroots:
"As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops."


http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=37


How many party leaders were in the room holding Derringers to his head when he sent this out?

Other Tom

I guess Kerry just joined up with the right-wing nut jobs.

Syl

NOW the NY Times will make it front page news.

:)

Syl

How long did it take for Kerry to be the last Dem to apologize for his mistake?

Extraneus

See, here's my point about Bush's statement yesterday. Kerry should have to apologize for more than this one comment, since it was the least of the multiple disparaging statements he's made in which he used his supposed authoritative ex-military voice to make some sort of personal hay, in this particular case apparently sucking up to lefty college students he hopes will support him in '08.

"If anything I've said about raping innocent villagers or genital shocking or molesting sleeping Muslim women in the night offended our fine servicemen and women, for that I am truly sorry, since these statements were meant only to further my own political prospects and surely not to disparage these great servicepeople of ours."

Bush should come out and rachet this up now with some quotes from Kerry's past and lump the Democrat party in with it for good measure. They certainly deserve it.

Extraneus

(Sorry, Cecilia.)

Cecelia

Walter,

I'll do you one better. My daughter is an airman. She comes from a middle class background and has a college degree.

Other Tom,

I found the Heritage Foundation piece on google. Suffice to say, this bit (I add the asteriks) sums up the study:

"In summary, we found that, on average, 1999 recruits were more highly educated than the ***equiv­alent*** general population, more ***rural*** and less urban in origin, and of similar income status."

Sue

Well, I was a day late on when he would apologize. You just knew he had to. The democrats were going to lynch him if he didn't.

Rick

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform...

Perhaps Don or some other scary-smart Blue linguist can detail how Kerry's plain language was "misinterpreted." Kerry's comment was plain language, and notably lacking in his famous, celebrated nuance.

Cordially...

clarice

Well, if everyone else is too stupid to recognize his incomparable genius, Rick, it's easy to see why they'd miss his true meaning..
Actually, except for the Demedia, I think average Americans got his true meaning exactly right.

Mark

Kerry made the cardinal mistake of accidentally saying what he really believes. Whether it was a botched joke (we have to take his operation's word for it, and political operatives never lie, right?) or an off-the-cuff gaffe doesn't really matter.

topsecretk9

Supporting Our Troops --[Mark Steyn]--

I find the Derb/Jay line, agreeing that Senator Kerry was making a joke about Bush, highly implausible. If you talk to Democrats of the middle-class and upper-middle-class and (in John Heinz Kerry’s case) the neo-Gulf-emir-class, you’ll have heard the same thing a thousand times: these poor fellows in Iraq, they’re only there because they’re too poverty-stricken and ill-educated so they couldn’t become Senators and New York Times reporters and tenured Queer Studies professors like normal Americans do. That is, in fact, what they mean by the claim that they “support our troops”: they want to bring them home and retrain them so they’re not forced into taking jobs as Bush’s torturers and thugs. It’s part of the same condescension as describing soldiers as “our children”. If a 22-year old intern wants to drop to the Oval Office broadloom, she’s a grown woman exercising her freedom of choice. But, if a 28-year old guy wants to serve in Iraq, he’s a poor wee misguided Grade Six drop-out who doesn’t know any better. John Kerry’s soundbite is interesting not because it’s the umpteenth self-inflicted wound by Mister Nuance but because it gets right to the heart of the Democrats’ “support” for the troops.
Posted at 5:00 PM

clarice

From a reader at NRO some shrewd observations:
"Real apologies

Never contain the phrases "my words were misinterpreted" (to make it or "any [one] who was offended." These are weasel words. Nothing is an apology which attempts offload blame or place blame anywhere but on the person making the apology. Such “apologies” should never be accepted.
Never transition to an attempt to balance the scales by showing any other party is wrong in any way. Such “apologies” should never be accepted. Indeed, they should be condemned not just as unmitigating excuses, but as abuses in their own right.


Mr. Kerry is at stage 3 of offense: 1) The original, unfortunate (arguably unintentional) offense; 2) A vicious, immature counterattack; 3) A transparent attempt at deflection ineptly disguised as apology. Each of these stages multiplies the offense.

Mr. Kerry must resign and his enablers and fellow-travelers must be called to account.

It is high time for a roll call of Democratic leaders and candidates."

Sue

I think it is over. He has apologized and the MSM didn't pick it up to begin with. Sure was fun though while it lasted.

davod

Tom:

Great minds think alike. At a BBC blog I just wrote that if Kerry missed words he did so on purpose and said what he really meant.

Don

Why do you think we Dems are so bitter? This is the creme de la creme,our vengeance weapon par excellence,this our CONTENDER and it is John Friggin Kerry.Pass me the Metaxa and a good strong rope.

Sue

I wonder if anyone from the NYTimes will report on the apology?

rjarango

Lurch's current effort at an apology is starting to look like the Zeno's paradox of apologies--he's creeping toward one by going half way each time--"My words were iminterpreted....yada yada yada--The dumb SOB just can't bring himself to admit he screwed up and people heard him say what he said--If this SOB won a silver star in Viet Nam, it damn sure wasnt for gallantry--He is lowlife pond scum as are the idiots who are defending him. truly a low life M**F**er.

DwightKShrute

Hey with things in Iraq being so touch and go right now what would be important and appropriate thing to do?

Oh I know, the President should sit down and talk with an admitted drug abuser, who once said "Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population. Who the hell cares.", later had to resign from a job at ESPN because of comments denegrating a quarterback because of his race, has a history of chauvinistic behaivior including statements like "Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.", likened the abuses at Abu Ghraib to fraternity hazing, offered up this advice "I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.", and just last week openly mocked someone with a debilitating disease.

That's EXACTLY what the President should be doing today.

clarice

Jay Cost takes issue with Charlie Cook's assessment of the House races.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/jumping_the_shark.html

Don

Sue-you're one of the few right leaning people on this site who's is not contemptible.

Your statement that you think this Kerry thing over is proof of your essential good nature. I will never direct ire your way again.

P.S. whoever is spoofing me-Leahy yourself, Clymer.

boris

That's EXACTLY what the President should be doing today.

Every one of those things earned him more money per word than you will ever see.

Sara (Squiggler)

In case you missed it, Hot Air has confirmation that the hilarious photo Sue posted the link to is a valid photo:

Update (Ian): Major (Retired) Michael E. Bistrica emails Hot Air:

The picture is real. The troops are from 1-34th BTB which is part of the 34th Infantry Division. This is a National Guard outfit from units in Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, New Jersey, Kentucky, and Kansas. They were deployed to Iraq in March 2006.

Base in Iraq is Camp Al Asad.

And Fox is reporting that it first appeared anywhere in the Army Times.

Jane

John Kerry’s soundbite is interesting not because it’s the umpteenth self-inflicted wound by Mister Nuance but because it gets right to the heart of the Democrats’ “support” for the troops.

I just love love love Mark Steyn.

John Kerry's words speak for themselves, they are clear on their face.

He should not be allowed to recover from this. He should be hounded from office, and forced to resign in shame. And he should do it by January so Mitt Romney came name his replacement.

Daryl Herbert

I figured it out. Apologies in advance for the length.

The script itself was innocuous:

I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.

This is the gist of what he was supposed to say:

If you study hard, you get wise. Fail to study, and you'll make a foolish mistake like Bush's invasion of Iraq.

But Kerry wasn't reading the script word-for-word. He was sort of winging it.

He sees the first few sentences. Something about the benefits of studying. He's talking to college kids and he's on autopilot. So he tells them, study hard, and you'll "do well." There's the fatal flaw: doing well is a matter of having good fortune, not being wise.

He looks down at the script to get the next sentence. You'll see he sort of frowns, but then starts moving again. Like he doesn't quite get it, but he's going to say it anyway, because he doesn't want to stare at the script like a moron. Something about, or you're stuck in Iraq. But he's not thinking smart vs. foolish. He's thinking fortunate vs. unfortunate.

So he says, in effect, if you don't study, you'll be unfortunate like those poor dumb saps in Iraq. We all know that's the literal meaning of his words. That's why they're so offensive.

The question is whether he believed that meaning, or just misread the script. He can't use the excuse that he misread the script and left out a word, because he wasn't reading it word-for-word!

I think too many of Kerry's conservative defenders are putting too much emphasis on the fact that the script was innocuous. So what? What matters is what he said, and why he said it.

---

The flaw in the script: the part about studying leads to wisdom was entirely implicit. There were no words in the script as to why studying is good. Not studying is bad because it makes you foolish. We can backtrack from that to realize that studying is good because it makes you wise.

Kerry was on autopilot, and he didn't want to say nothing, so he gave typical college kid advice: studying is good because . . . you'll end up well-off. You'll have good fortune. That's a great reason to study. Unfortunately, it was off-script, and it set him up for fortunate vs. unfortunate, instead of wise vs. foolish. D'oh.

So remember, everyone: when you write speeches, if the reader is going to give 'em off the cuff, don't be too clever and leave important elements implicit. Someone gave John Kerry a bad road map; he missed a turn and drove off a cliff.

clarice

Yeah it wwas someone else's fault..PHEH

Jane, we're going to have to mud wrestle for Steyn.

DwightKShrute

Really Boris? That's how you determine moral responsibility, how much money someone makes? That was just a short list of the racist, chauvenist, deceitful, hypocritical, reprehensibly crass statements made by that buffoon. Yet you decide to point out that he (based on nothing, just you making an assumption blind of any facts) makes more money than I ever will. Nice priorities. So does that mean that anything said by Soros, Moore, etc. is fine because they have a lot of money? Of course your logic makes it easy to see how people like George Allen are the darlings of the GOP. Racist comments, anger towards women, who cares -- he's rich!

Jane

Oooh Clarice, we better share him, because other wise I'm in to the death!

Jane

Uh Dwight, I think it's Webb who has the issue with women.

Don

I am mortified that my lack of education has led me to support such an insufferable buffoon,sigh, "Stuck on Democrat".

clarice

Steyn on Kerry:
"I find the Derb/Jay line, agreeing that Senator Kerry was making a joke about Bush, highly implausible. If you talk to Democrats of the middle-class and upper-middle-class and (in John Heinz Kerry’s case) the neo-Gulf-emir-class, you’ll have heard the same thing a thousand times: these poor fellows in Iraq, they’re only there because they’re too poverty-stricken and ill-educated so they couldn’t become Senators and New York Times reporters and tenured Queer Studies professors like normal Americans do. That is, in fact, what they mean by the claim that they “support our troops”: they want to bring them home and retrain them so they’re not forced into taking jobs as Bush’s torturers and thugs. It’s part of the same condescension as describing soldiers as “our children”. If a 22-year old intern wants to drop to the Oval Office broadloom, she’s a grown woman exercising her freedom of choice. But, if a 28-year old guy wants to serve in Iraq, he’s a poor wee misguided Grade Six drop-out who doesn’t know any better. John Kerry’s soundbite is interesting not because it’s the umpteenth self-inflicted wound by Mister Nuance but because it gets right to the heart of the Democrats’ “support” for the troops.
Posted at 5:00 PM"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWZlMDllZWQ5MWUwM2UzYTNiOTcxZDM0ZmExMGZiMTc=

Sara (Squiggler)

Upthread re: CENTCOM saying chaos:

I post excerpts from CENTCOM all the time and the latest is about a food distribution program in partnership with the Iraqis and the handing over of yet another Iraqi unit fully trained. Nothing about chaos and civil war. In fact, just the opposite.

I see that the attacking mouthbreathers are back trying to hijack a thread. Too bad they only have personal attacks at their disposal and not real facts to back up their ignorance.

Sue

His apology really pisses me off.

"I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform and I personally apologize to any service member, family member or American who was offended," Kerry said in a statement.

Misinterpreted? He freakin' botched a joke, or is that so yesterday?

boris

That's how you determine moral responsibility

I am a bigger fan of the 1st amendment than sanctimonious BS about "moral responsibility" from the BJ party.

DwightKShrute

Jane, are you referring to the book written by his sister recalling how he dragging her up stairs by her hair, held her over the edge of Niagra Falls, and attacked her boyfriend with a pool cue? Oh no wait that's George Allen. Gotta love that Confederate flag loving, down home country boy who aw shucks just happened to be the son of a millionaire and grew up on the beach in an affuent area of Southern California.

clarice

Sorry, Dwight, duing the prior administration we learned that such things were private matters and had no political consequences. No take backs now.

Enlightened

Kerry becomes the ass-end of his own "joke" in spectacular fashion seen the world over.

One picture, one banner - erected by quite obviously witty and intelligent troops, that got the "nuance".

Teh difference being the troops are in harms way, and once again the Moron of MA is bloviating from afar.

Priceless.

DwightKShrute

Clarice -

I can see why you'd like to keep serial abuse of siblings and misrepresenting your roots are "private matters".

Other things you probably consider "private matters" -

A Republican congressman from Florida that likes to prey upon underage boys. The GOP leadership certainly thought it was a "private matter" seeing as how they had knowledge of it and kept him in office.

A Republican congressman from Nevada that propositioned then accosted a women who was not his wife in a Las Vegas parking garage.

A Republican congressman from Pennsylvania that allegedly tried to strangle his mistress.

A Republican congressman from New York who got into a verbal argument with his wife that turned a little physical when he grabbed her by her neck and pushed her around the house.

It sure would be nice to keep these "private matters" private. Unfortunately, unlike you some people seem to take pedophelia and assaults on women seriously.

Enlightened

And in typical, arrogant JK fashion, the apology is not in person, but type-written. And person-to-person interviews are being cancelled. Blitzer - cancelled.

John Kerry has now remanded himself to the Algore bin of history.

Right in the nick of time too - now he won't EVER have to reveal his military records in full. I bet he is crazy happy that's over.

Jane

Jane, are you referring to the book written by his sister

No. I'm referring to his denigrating remarks about women serving their country.

You seem a bit misinformed Dwight. I suspect it's not worth anyone's time here to correct you of your misinformation. That is what you were looking for, right?

DwightKShrute

Jane- Do you think that a statement questioning the place of women in the military is worse than physically abusing your sister and other siblings?

Jane

And in typical, arrogant JK fashion, the apology is not in person, but type-written.

He is such an ass. Some guy on the radio here today said that the morning when he conceded the election on 2004 Teresa was seen falling down the steps of their beacon hill kajillion-dollar house. The press didn't report her little morning adventure in the bottle because this is, after all, MA. I bet she is good and soused right about now.

boris

physically abusing your sister and other siblings?

I'd confess things I did to my siblings but some people might get the idea that I have a mean streak.

Enlightened

Dwight - Say it a million times. 10 million. Say it until you take your last breath - the fact you cannot comprehend a word, yet continue to use it ad naseum - does not make it fact.

Pedophilia - Learn it.

GOP knew about Foley - as did the Democrats and their posse that used it as a campaign tool- have a chat with Lane Hudson of Human Rights Campaign. Save that shit for someone else that can read between your talking point blather. PS: Mark Foley never "preyed" on the pages - that would mean they had no means to fight back - which they did, so again - COMPREHEND what you are saying before you say it. Get tips from John Kerry if neccessary.

Governor of Nevada - Funny how that incident is not showing up on the parking lot security cameras - oh wait - let me take cover before you drop the "Coverup" bomb.

A President that sticks a cigar in a woman's private parts, in a private part of the White House. There's a privacy advocate for you.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

CENTCOM is considering criminal charges against the leaker of the daily assessment indicating a near chaotic situation in Iraq that was a one day snapshot for October 18th and used internally to distribute troops to the hot spots. It is not an overall assessment of Iraq and it is another example of the NYT publishing leaks that provide aid and comfort to the enemy.

Faith+1

Kerry, being the consumate Liberal, appears to be blaming everyone else because his mispoke his own prepared statement. I love how it's somehow the Right Wing Conspiracy responsible for Kerry misquoting himself.

1988-1995, Capt, USAF, BS in Comp Sci, MS in Software Eng and Mech Eng, former Viper driver.

Forgive any misspellings, being a Vet I'm not too bright... :-/

Pofarmer

The Dems have run the most substance free campaign I have ever seen, relying on their pals in the media to drag them over the finish line.

The Dems whole strategy in MO is to yell "The other guy said things about me that are vicious and just not true", while conveniently not stating their actual positions.

Fen

Win or lose this midterm, it will be gratifying to see Kos, Lamont and Kerry all seated at the back table by the kitchen.

PeterUK

Dwight,
Don't forget the senator who left the help in the car while he swam home to sleep it off."Damn,that river was a parking lot last night!"

Sue

and assaults on women seriously.

Bwahahaha! Ask Paula Jones how seriously some people take assaults on women. There are a few others whose names escape me at the moment, since no one took them seriously.

Sue

Faith+1,

Don't worry, you are in the company of people who are crazy for believing John Kerry would say anything bad about our troops.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

CENTCOM RELEASE TODAY:

Coalition Forces destroy terrorist IED factory Print E-mail
Wednesday, 01 November 2006

MULTI-NATIONAL FORCE-IRAQ
COMBINED PRESS INFORMATION CENTER

BAGHDAD, Iraq
http://www.mnf-iraq.com
703.270.0320 / 0299Nov. 01, 2006

Release A061101b


COALITION FORCES DESTROY TERRORIST IED FACTORY

BAGHDAD — Coalition Forces launched an air strike on an IED factory early Wednesday morning South of Baghdad as they continue to dismantle the al-Qaeda in Iraq terrorist network. With the assistance of Iraqi citizens, Coalition Forces were able to locate and destroy a confirmed terrorist IED factory. According to ground forces, there was explosive paraphernalia along with an estimated 70-80 barrels of unknown chemicals in the factory. Before conducting the strike, Coalition Forces maintained surveillance on the target and surrounding area to ensure no innocent civilians would be injured in the strike. The destruction of this factory reduces the ability of the terrorist network to operate, and increases the safety of all Iraqi citizens, Iraqi forces and Iraq’s Multi-National partners.

Sue

Faith+1,

Sorry. I failed to thank you for your service. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart!

lonetown

If Kerry goes out and delivers any more ass kickings like this, we may have to call the fight.

Enlightened

Photo/Banner I would love to see:

Jon Carry - Upolujy not ekcepted enles U mak it N pursen, N Irak!

Bwahhhhhhahh. These troops could single handedly break the man and his party by simply asking him to come to Iraq and apologize. Well, let me go dream about that a little while longer.......

owl

It is NOT OVER. I do not accept it.

How do I know that some Dem AP did not write it and post it on his site?

How do I know it is genuine and not some WH press coaching him?

Plus....he did not give a press conference.

Plus...I think I need him to come to my home and personally explain his apology.

Plus...let's start with the one he should have given 30 years ago.

DwightKShrute

Enlightened,
Nice to see you actually understand what a private matter is. Yes, something sexual that goes on between two consenting adults is a private matter, be it in a bedroom in Minnesota or an office in the White House.

Perhaps what I don't COMPREHEND is the willingness for a party that claims to be based on moral values to look the other way when their own people exhibit racist, chauvenist, corrupt, or abusive behaivior.

owl

good one clarice

Tom Maguire

but the silver lining for us folks in the Democratic Party is the resurgence of democratic moderates like Ford, Tester, Casey and McCaskill. The democrats are moving to the center and it appears that the center is moving to the democrats.

Moderate Dems only make me nervous to the extent that they empower the loony left, which is more of an issue in the House right now.

But if the Dems need to nominate pro-lifers to pick up seats, that is a win for a certain brand of conservatives, if not for Republicans. Sort of like the way the Dems have more or less gone silent on gun control and capital punishment.

JM Hanes

"....my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop."

Am I the only who thinks that if he had actually managed to make the joke, it wouldn't make it better?

owl

Kerry IS the current Democrat. It is pitiful.

They have zero respect for the military and he can beat his chest all he wants but he does not understand. His view of the fighting leader is himself. Just exactly opposite from the real heroes. They do not brag. He votes against every thing that helps the warrior to fight. But he IS the current Democrat Party. Creepy and scary.

kentuckyliz

Re above comments about the impending elections.

Did anyone notice that Bush's approval ratings are over 200% that of Congress?

I think y'all should express your lack of confidence in your elected representatives and throw the bums out!

While we in KY are whores for power and pork. Our guys are high up and get the job done for the Commonwealth. We can overlook little faults.

I can bring home the bacon!
Fry it up in a pan!
And never never never let you forget I'm your man!
I'm Hal Rogers...vote for me!

Throw your bums out so my bums can move up in seniority and power and drag home bigger slabs of bacon.

Besides, a bunch of us Kentuckians are good Christians and we want the sin contained to those who are already possessed. Why taint and corrupt any new guys?

bwahahahahaaaaaah!

clarice

No, you aren't JMH.

Enlightened

Hah - Clarice. If I were Karl Rove I would be almost breathless with sublime glee. I would damn sure take the credit for this October Surprise.....It was so perfectly and precisely implemented, genius I tell ya.

Seriously, I can imagine the elitist snot-rag from MA, seeing the troops with their banner on Drudge no less. To a real man, the humiliation of that alone would be devastating.

But with JK there simply is no "there" there, just moi, and some shitty ketsup.

DwightKShrute

Peter UK,

Sorry if I missed something that came out over 37 years ago, I was trying to keep it to recent news about people that were actually running for office this year. Otherwise I would have mentioned Schrock, Gingrich, LaTourette, Hyde, Livingston, Packwood, Strangeland, Lukens, Schmitz, etc., etc.

PeterUK

"Yes, something sexual that goes on between two consenting adults is a private matter, be it in a bedroom in Minnesota or an office in the White House".

Wrong Dwight,what goes on in an office in the White House is on company property and company time.

Sue

John F'n Kerry has to be the loneliest person on the planet at the moment. Just think, from cheering crowds to hiding in the basement. I'm seriously going to miss that guy. The entertainment he provides is priceless.

PeterUK

"Sorry if I missed something that came out over 37 years ago".
That's the trouble with you kids,no sense of history,you want to check his brothers out...oh yes, and the former Klu Klux Klan member..I could go on,but then I wouild be as tedious as you.
First rule in politics,don't throw shit,"Dans la merde jusqu'au cou".

Enlightened

Yes, Dwight - I am like Hillary Clinton - very glad her husband had consenting sex with another woman in private in the White House. The visual of Monica and Slick Willie cavorting in public with a cigar is rather disconcerting.

Back to my previous post - you have made an error in calling or implying Mark Foley is a Pedophile - please retract that error, otherwise you simply look as smart as John Kerry.

And BTW - the pages that IM'd Mark Foley - were consenting adults. Go figure that consenting Republican adults differ in some way to consenting Democratic adults. That is what, talking point 8000 in the Dem playbook?

Let's stay on task here - The subject of this forum is John Kerry and his well-known disdain for troops rearing it's ugly head once again.

There are other forums that cover the so-called scandals you are trying to insert here.

JM Hanes

Don't worry Sue, the Combat Vet who invented cut and run will be baaaack.

DwightKShrute

"Wrong Dwight,what goes on in an office in the White House is on company property and company time."

Well if that's the case then why won't Cheney release the names of the people he met with in the White House for his energy task force? Why does the administration fight tooth and nail to keep logs showing Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House from public view?

Neo

John Kerry is the kind of guy that would always pull "point."

Sue

JM,

You think? Well, he did take that skiing vacation to Switzerland and send back word that he would fight the nomination of Alito. At the same time Dingy Harry was saying Alito would get the up or down vote. The man's political timing is beyond priceless. ::grin::

Enlightened

Dwight - do try and stay on task. This forum is about Kerry demeaning our troops.

Everyone else - go to AJ's place - he has a great rebuttal to the assinine "apology" - awesome.

His great point - How do ANY of us know these are JOHN KERRY's words? Since he did not make the apology in person, he has added insult to injury.

This isn't funny, it's not a joke, people's lives are stake and he denigrated them.

The ONLY resolution at this point is for him to go to Iraq, go to the troops with the banner, and persoanlly apologize.

Anything else is completely insincere, and he should be forced to step down. IMO.

PeterUK

"Well if that's the case then why won't Cheney release the names of the people he met with in the White House for his energy task force? Why does the administration fight tooth and nail to keep logs showing Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House from public view?"

As far as I am aware,they weren't shagging Abramoff.

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