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DEMO

Liz you Nepcon, did your daddy help you with your WAPO editorial.

Appalled Moderate

TM:

Obama has a problem with a Democratic constituency -- african-americans; who tend to favor Hillary. This stance will help him with them, while not affecting him with others. (I don't think the Imus listeners are Obama's audience, really.)

Imus got his audience by being mean to folk. (Not just un-pc...actually mean.) I can't say I mind his fall. Like, TM, though, I'm sure he will find a perch on stellite radio. But I doubt the politicians will be visting.

The one bad -- when did old race-batin' Al Sharpton get to be an arbitrer on what's racially appropriate on the radio? Why can't he get some kind of similar comeuppance?

Les Nessman

"And I think all of us have an obligation to speak out and condemn this kind of language when it's used, no matter who uses it."

No matter who uses it? Rappers, actors, certain hip people, etc...?

I thought certain people were 'allowed' to use this kind of language because..well, just because. I guess now we'll hear everyone being condemned for using this language?

Racism is so confusing some times.

Jane

The libs are now trying to paint "I'm for John Kerry" Imus as a conservative. Let's see how far that goes.

hit and run

hit and run gets (partial) results

Actually, I wanted someone to get Obama to comment on Jackson and Sharpton, not Imus.

But like AM said, this is a chance of Obama to cozy up to the African American constituency.

Who will save me from my cynicism now that Obama is expressly feeding it?!!?!!??

I am in the depths of despair.

SlimGuy

- Imus' audience is not grooving on his groveling to Sharpton and Jackson.

Actually I think it extends beyond his audience.

I see more be concerned to the playing of the race card by the two players more offensive than the original speech.

Other Tom

I'm with AppMod on this one--the guy is a bully, and I don't shed a single tear for him. And apart from what he does on the air, I am reliably informed that he is horribly abusive to staff and underlings off the air, and is universally regarded by people in the business as a genuine jerk.

clarice

Maybe this incident and the proposed Bloggers Code of Conduct are an attempt to regain some semblance of civility . (Skipping of course the Sharpton and Jackson race baiting which is getting skewered more now than ever as their hypocrisy in the Duke case and elsewise is being juxtaposed w/ their charges against Imus.)
The WSJ had an interesting editorial which concludes:
The censorship claim is often made by political Web players who want to be "free" to use whatever means will achieve the end of driving their opponents over the cliff. Consider the Congressional Black Caucus. Its affiliation with Fox News to conduct presidential debates was fire-bombed recently on "progressive" Web sites. Example: "Guess it takes a whole lot of grease to fry CBC's chicken." Scared, the three major Democratic presidential candidates pulled out. Censorship? Try doublespeak. The strategy of deploying charged and hyper-aggressive language is now evident: First intimidate one's targets, then coerce them--into conformity or silence. And do it always under the banner of free speech and democracy.

There is no evident political coloration to the broader concern that's arisen about conduct on the Web. The anti-civility trolls are in restaurants, stadiums, theaters, planes, church, the airwaves, in dreams. This is merely a recognition that rules of the road can indeed enhance, not suppress, the flow of truly free expression and minimize the already ample frictions of daily life. Better late than never
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110009929>Civility
II predict that groveling to Sharpton is over. It didn't work and it is turning off those who like him for his outspoken "truthiness" or whatever they see in him.

hit and run

Uh, from Jim Geraghty at The Hillary Spot



UPDATE: Today's guests on Don Imus? (His suspension from MSNBC starts April 16.) James Carville and Paul Begala, former advisers to the Clintons. A friend mentioned it, and the Philly Inquirer noted it as well:

In fact, Carville is part of today's all-white, all-boys lineup, with fellow Democratic strategist Paul Begala, The Sopranos' Steve Schirippa, and MSNBC contributor Mike Barnicle.

Begala and Carville? On Imus? Today?

Joe Gloor

IMUS: A TREE FALLING IN THE FORREST
The thing I want to know about Don Imus's racially charged remarks about the Rutgers Women's Basketball team is, who heard it?
And I mean, the first time, live.
Not subsequent re-airings of his foolish "joke", but actually heard it or saw it as it happened?
I didn't.
I have never listened to Imus.
Oh sure, back when I had expanded cable channels, I would run across him simulcasting on CNN.
I always kept right on clicking past him, because, although I was pretty sure he had an opinion, I really couldn't care less what it might be.
He was difficult to understand, what with his mumbling drawl and everything.
And it may have been that I saw him as he spoke.
I don't like to say that I'm prejudiced.
I like to say I'm discriminating.
Imus looked like a clown to me, so I really wasn't at all interested in what he was saying.
I have no idea what Imus's ratings are or were prior to this little fiasco, but I can't imagine they were great.
I'm from the Chicago area.
Is he popular somewhere else in the country?
Because, before now, I'd never heard anyone else saying anything about him.
At any rate, if you listened to Imus, you must surely have gotten an idea about what a buffoon the man is, no?
I suspect he has an audience.
I also suspect they tend to agree with him more often than not but are more "politically correct" about what words they actually allow themselves to send spewing out of their pie-holes.
I found the term "jigaboo" (sp?) far more offensive than the phrase "nappy-headed ho's" and the national news media seem to agree since I only heard that part of the "wisdom of Imus" the first time I heard any of it.

Which brings me back to my original point.
Should I boycott Imus?
Because, frankly, I'm already doing that, so it would make no difference.
Or should I boycott the national news media for gossiping about what Imus said?
Or Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?
Haven't we all got someone - elderly aunt, uncle, or acquaintance who occasionally spouts some exceeding derogatory remark about (fill in the blanks)?
Don't we each get that embarrassed feeling for them and wonder, "What the hell is wrong with that guy?"
Sometimes, don't we admonish that person?
"You shouldn't say things like that!"
My daughter is kind enough to admonish me all the time.
But we know it's just old Aunt Gertrude, going off on (fill in the blanks), again, so we don't publish it in the newspaper, or even gossip with our friends who happen to be (fill in the blanks) that Aunt Gertrude is anti-(fill in the blank).
No we don't.
We down-play it.
Why?
Because doing anything else would be hurtful to (fill in the blanks).
So back to what I want to know.
Did any of the ladies of the Rutgers Women's Basketball team actually hear Imus, or did they just hear a recording of Imus from a nasty gossip?
Oh, and one other question, who thinks that what Aunt Gertrude says about (fill in the blanks) is any more true just because Aunt Gertrude thinks so?

topsecretk9

Well, on first blush I am thrilled that Imus is taking on Sharpton and to be completely honest not that vexed that Imus said what he said vs. the actual statement. Of course that kind of speech is repugnant, but seriously uttered daily by children in the african american community and Imus is a shock jock.

Jon Derbyshire has a post up in the corner where he did an amazon search of the cultural use of "nappy" - in fact I just happened to be at a Target one day many years ago when my son was very young and they hosted an author reading signing - of one of the books Jon points out...it's a children's book and it discussed nappy hair.

Anyways, I bought one - cute and fun - and I passed it onto my son's preschool teacher to read and everyone was afraid to read it....I thought how strange - here we have a book written by an african american woman to embrace and explain african american culture and our PC culture makes people afraid to read it because it might offend someone...

...yet aren't offended by the offensive rap songs and lyrics that spill over into a way of life.

( http://www.amazon.com/Nappy-Dragonfly-Books-Carolivia-Herron/dp/0679894454/ref=sr_1_2/002-4756443-6523216?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176393512&sr=1-2)

Roger

Clinton isn't Satan. It's all out there so no promoting the luciferians. Bill did okay and became a Baptist preacher because he and Carville chose Satan, but they were just luciferians like most dems. Notice the names and numbers are there - that's because of dems. So, luciferians forcing themselves on everyone else and society paid and then we inherited 9/11.

Nappy? I got that if someone falls asleep with time the beard doesn't grow, but that's because the withches go after muscles, go figure how long a muslce can keep going and there is time; like weeks.

Okay, tree in For Rest. So, why worry about biggots? Maybe it's like muslces and pain. Biggots usually form(like cloners who also chose lucifer by using human bodies...) groups - it's rare for them to be alone. They may go after bodies at that point already having chosen lucifer as biggots. Anyway, maybe Imus will have a heart attack or will be cloned or something and we can all laugh at the fool who took on the the biggots.

'The Recriut.' It's a waste of time like tho other CIA legacy movies. It's pretty neat how he's fooled into thinking he's a NOC and murders his pal from the farm, his old girlfriend has to break it to him and call the cops to stop him, but the guy who tricked him into thinking he's a NOC, spills the beans after 30 years as a CIA operatiosn officer and has himself shot, in front of him and his girlfriend. The ending was neat. Notice his look as the guy explains 'you were born to do this.' A natural, really?

The movie missed some things, like maybe the guy didn't think he was a NOC(that is the set up for the original murder), but there was a murder and set up of a pal(kinda like the farm); he is inadvertantly assigned to the murder and lives the murdered person's life - ya they keep on tryin. Who was it that set up the murder? Well, a CIA operations officer, who went to the the same 'farm' as both. Maybe it was the NOCs assigned to the same area; who continually come up with interesting ways for people to die. Anyway, maybe it was smarter to set up the 30 year career guy - he wasn't liked anyway, gay, and have him kill his parnter.

Anyway, good movie. Too bad he wasn't set up by a psychiatrist like the murdered person before him. It would have made for a better conspiracy than some 30 year hack, but, hey, maybe that's a mistake because thats' who did the original set up for the NOCs with creative death experiences and everyone seems to be Bill Clinton..............

Sara

Via the Skipper:Wishful Thinking

In Philosophy

Here is my list of Things I Would Really Like To See:

  • The Democratic Party prosecuted under the RICO Act.

  • Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton forced to work for a living.

  • Al Gore evicted from his mansion and living out of a tent.

  • Cindy Sheehan walking the streets of Baghdad. Without body armor.

  • Paris Hilton in a burkha. Forever.

  • The Arabs run out of oil and suddenly realize we have all the water.

  • Hugo Chavez in the same prison cell with Manuel Noriega. For life.

  • Open season on lawyers. All year round. No limit.

  • A personal computer operating system that never needs patches. And is free.

  • Pop music that was actually worth listening to. And TV worth watching.

  • Teddy Kennedy sentenced to twenty years hard labor for murder.

  • Televised public hangings of convicted spammers.

  • Dan Rather forced to take a polygraph.

  • The United Nations building and all diplomats moved to Khartoum.

  • Osama Bin Laden on trial in the US. Wearing a pink burkha.

  • A large mushroom cloud over Teheran.

  • The San Andreas Fault open up and California fall into the Pacific Ocean.

  • The disappearance of the Muslim religion.

  • Members of the US military paid as much as Hollywood actors.

I like this list, except for California. I happen to agree but I have to live here for at least another month.

clarice

I think the thing about lawyers is a bit harsh myself.

Sara

Re: lawyers. Present company excepted, of course. ::smile::

Syl

As usual it seems that this entire incident is being framed in terms that are superficial. If we could have an open and honest dialog about racism, the mostly lack thereof, and how victimology hurts the groups it's supposed to help there might be a positive outcome.

Instead we learn about who will or will not appear on Imus, who comments and who doesn't, who wants him fired and who doesn't--IOW all that's happening is people taking sides on what the punishment should be rather than discussion of real harm vs pseudo harm by the remarks themselves.

hit and run

Jason Whitlock, a black sportswriter has the audacity of outrage.

Apologies for the length....I tried to cut it down by excerpting but it's still pretty long.

Imus isn’t the real bad guy
Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist
...
The bigots win again.

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.
...
I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.
...
But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.
...
We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

michael

Quite a while back I posted an excerpt from Black Boy by R. Wright in which he recounts a conversation as an adolescent as a young man looking for a job. 'You don't steal?' the woman of the house said. To which he laughed and got a glare. I suppose that question got at did he consider himelf in a, somewhat cold, race war with white people? Humans are unique in being able to see the other, a stranger, as oneself but this is not automatic and is the source of most of our disagreements and disappointments. Sartre got, at least, 'Hell is other people' right. The NAACP comments, the election in Durham, suggest that, perhaps except for some friends they know or might meet, most black people don't now consider us 'people.' You shouldn't expect it; Obama just takes nearly that position as politically appropriate.

Sara

CBS fires Imus and cancels his radio show, so Imus has been silenced. This is not a good thing, but so typical of leftist ways of doing things. Not that Imus is a righty, but those raising all the hullabaloo are and it stinks.

Sara

**those raising all the hullaboo are lefties**

Pofarmer

Well, apparently Keith Olbermann's come out with a list of the next to be targeted. Of course, you can guess who they are. Rush, Hannity, Boortz, Savage........

danking

Imus / MSNBC comment.

"He didn't attack MSNBC for its decision — "I understand the pressure they were under," he said — but complained the network was doing some unethical things during the broadcast. He didn't elaborate."

Guess Imus will never get to ask anymore questions of Gregory, Mitchell, and Russert.

BJM

I guess we should be pleased that the left are such boneheads, otherwise they'd be serious economic competition.

Had the Rutgers athletic dept and Coach Stringer an ounce of sense they would have met with Imus immediately and demanded a black women's scholarship fund to make amends and a public apology at a mutual press conference. They would have been totally in control and empowered.

Instead Stringer allowed the media to portray the team as defenseless weepy little girls, talk about stereotypes, while she played the victim on Oprah and everyone is left with a bad taste.

Meanwhile Jackson sharpens his pencil to tote up the corporate blackmail he's about to extract from NBC.

Stupid IS forever on the left.

clarice

Howie Carr:
"Until his idiotic flameout, Don Imus was the nearest thing the liberals ever had to a success story in talk radio. He worshipped John Kerry. He fawned over Maureen Dowd. He cursed the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. After Saddam was executed, Imus joked with a local plagiarist about how Dick Cheney would handle himself on the gallows.

Who knew Imus would walk the Green Mile before Karl Rove?

The I-man thought he was one of the Beautiful People, but in the end it turned out like one of those Bob Dylan songs he used to play going into the breaks. Everybody said they’d stand behind him when the game got rough. But the joke was on him, there was nobody even there to bluff.

And now I do believe he’s had enough.

All his new so-called friends ran away and hid on him. Think about that unctuous NBC rumpswab David Gregory. Wednesday night, he went on MSNBC looking like his dog just got run over. But by yesterday morning, Gregory was back on top of his game. He apologized to Jesse Jackson for ever having gone on the Imus show.

But Gregory just did what was expected of him. When the going gets tough, the tough - hey, come back here!

The Beautiful People spent all week stampeding to the microphone to announce, as one female from Time magazine said yesterday, that they won’t be appearing on the Imus Show anymore.

No kidding, honey. Nobody will ever be appearing on the Imus show again, not even Imus."

http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/view.bg?articleid=194555>Beautiful people jump I-man ship

jr565

I'm not a fan of the guy but seriously what exactly is it that he said that was so over the top an racist? Nappy headed? Is that racist in itself? People of many persuasions describe blacks hair as nappy and there is no value judgement assigned to it. Is it the hoes? That's more sexist than racist but seriously, the word ho is practically ubiquituos at this point. With all the HBO comedy specials, and rap music and movies I've seen mention the word ho it seems pretty commonplace to me and not at all shocking. Didn't Hard on here for a pimp just win an academy award for best song? Where was the outrage (other than the fact the the song was so lame?)

Was it that the athletes were not public figures? Well, in fact, they were. They are college athletes and appear on television when playing their games, which is why Imus was able to describe them and their so called looks.

It's offensive, its sexist, but clearly some people are reaching here to find more outrage in Imus's diatribe than it warrants (can someone say race card?). And he should lose his job over it? When Rosie o'donnel can get away with saying the Bush admin was using the british hostage situation to push a war (despite the fact that it was the Iranians who kidnapped the brits), saying that the some nefarious plot brought down 7 WTC etc. Thats some pretty serious and offensive slander. And don't forget "Ching Chong, Ching Chong"

These athletes are holding press conferences and people are talking about how such talk is damaging to their self esteem. These girls are in college, and are young adults. Who cares if some old fart says mean things about them. If some 60 year old guy hurling insults at them is enough to make them cry on Oprah, then maybe they're not ready for real life. If when they're playing basketball someone in the stands shouts out, "you can't shoot you nappy headed ho" are they going to curl up in a ball and cry?

Not saying what he said was right, or proper or nice? but since when does some offhanded insensitive remark equate to burning a cross on someones lawn?

Pofarmer

So NBC tossed Imus to keep him from asking the hard questions?

I suppose I can buy that. They just needed a reason to do it. I don't suppose Gregory will be going on Imus' Sirius show?

Jane

If some 60 year old guy hurling insults at them is enough to make them cry on Oprah, then maybe they're not ready for real life.

That's my complaint. They had such an opportunity to show otherwise. I'm really disappointed.

hit and run

Tom:
H/t to H&R.

And I failed to properly h/t Rich Lowry at the Corner....

PatrickR

This is sweet justice, getting what you wish for:

-----------quote-------------
...with Imus' career in tatters, the fate of the controversial shock jock is stirring quiet but heartfelt concern in an unlikely quarter: among Democratic politicians.

That's because, over the years, Democrats such as [Harold Ford Jr] came to count on Imus for the kind of sympathetic treatment that Republicans got from Rush Limbaugh or Sean
Hannity.

Equally important, Imus gave Democrats a pipeline to a crucial voting bloc that was perennially hard for them to reach: politically independent white men.

...."This is a real bind for Democrats," said Dan Gerstein, an advisor to one of Imus' favorite regulars, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.). "Talk radio has become primarily the province of the right, and the blogosphere is largely the province of the left. If Imus loses his microphone, there aren't many other venues like it around."

Jim Farrell, a former aide to 2000 presidential candidate and Imus regular Bill Bradley, said the firing "creates a vacuum."

This week, when Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) was asked by CNN why he picked Imus' show to announce his presidential candidacy, Dodd explained: "He's got a huge audience; he gives you enough time to talk, not a 30-second sound bite, a chance to explain your views; … and a chance to reach the audience who doesn't always watch the Sunday morning talk shows."
-------------endquote--------

clarice

His demographics are white independent male voters and it's apparently hard to reach them otherwise.
I expect if he goes on Sirius, he'll be as foul mouthed but more honest thatn he has been about politicians to whom he's been sucking up for some time. Look out Andrea, and Tim, too.

hit and run

He was made out to be a "conservative" in order to gin up enough outrage to get him fired.

Now comes the 180, to make him out to be a "liberal" to gin up enough concern that leads (back) to.............the Fairness Doctrine.

clarice

I sincerely hope that the fairness doctrine never shows its face again and that the CFR and public financing laws get yanked.

maverick onus

AUDACIOUS ANGST
much to do over nothing
everything to do over something

The words "those people" reference no inherent offense. Maturity accepts generalizations without catastrophy.

Today's mass marketing proves the acceptability of the words "nappy headed ho" that are being successfully sold and being bought to be worn by loving teddy bears and all sorts of people alike.

No one should lose their job over a snide comment because everyone at one point or another has said a snide comment of one sort or another! Imagine the unemployment rate if everyone is likewise fired. For each person offended, that same person offends. So why propogate the vicious cycle with such self righteous indignation?

I've never had any previous reason to be aware of Imus' existence. It would only be right for him to continue finding his way though life without social castigation. Personally, either like him or leave him alone.

Look today at who is burning crosses, threatening livelihoods. Watch in horror as the media leads society by jumping on the band wagon to tar and feather today! I do not condone either side of the Imus debate. Clinton got off his hook fidgeting over the meaning of "is", so let Imus be Imus.

hit and run

Byron York with the Fairness Doctrine angle....(although the link in his corner post doesn't go to the piece he mentions.....yet anyway)

After Imus, What's Next? [Byron York]


I have a new piece on the agenda of some of the activists who led the charge against Don Imus. What — or who — is next for them? Well, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and others. But even more than that, they're looking to restore the old Fairness Doctrine, the repeal of which they blame for the rise of conservative media. Media Matters' David Brock, who once called Anita Hill "a bit slutty" but in the past week has helped lead the campaign against Imus for the "nappy-headed hos" remark, is calling for a new Doctrine. And for Al Sharpton, speaking this week on CNN, the fall of Imus isn't enough: "The question becomes whether or not we are going to have a regulatory policy that goes based on how contrite someone behaves or whether or not they step over the line…Are we going to have policy, or are we going to say, 'If you say you're sorry or even convince us you are sorry, policy's out the window?'"

04/13 12:57 PM

clarice

Yes. Start a reason campaign against it h & r--it's a ridiculous and pernicious invasion of free speech. Who BTW will decide this? The market of Nancy Grace, Wendy Murphy and Sharpton and Jackson?

hit and run

OK, Byron's now caught up with me....here's the link to his piece (slow poke)

What's Next for the Activists Who Called for Don Imus' Head?
Two words: Fairness Doctrine

By Byron York

hit and run

Oh and when I went to wikipedia this morning to take a look at FD....i noticed the end which said a senator and some congresspersons were looking to propose legislation relating to FD.

Two guesses as to the Senator and a congressman?

Give up?

Bernie Sanders......and Dennis Kucinich.

(it wasn't a trick question)

SlimGuy

A fairly complete time line of the Imus affair played out.

Behind the Imus Fall

hit and run

The audacity of hope....is Obama vying to return to saving me from my cynicism?

Oh the sun has come out tomorrow!


Speech from SC


Obama: Rappers Using Same Language As Embattled Radio Host Imus
By JIM DAVENPORT
Associated Press Writer

Posted: Apr. 13 5:27 p.m.
Updated: Apr. 13 9:50 p.m.

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday questioned the way some rappers talk about women in songs, saying the lyrics are similar to the derogatory language used by fired radio talk show host Don Imus.

"We've got to admit to ourselves, that it was not the first time that we heard the word 'ho,' Obama told a crowd of about 1,200 at a fundraising dinner for the South Carolina Legislative Black Caucus in Columbia. "Turn on the radio station. There are a whole lot of songs that use the same language ... we've been permitting it in our homes, and in our schools and on iPods."

"If it's not good for Don Imus, I don't know why it's good for us. If we don't like other people to degrade us, why are we degrading ourselves?" Obama said to applause.

My cynicism says that Obama has his finger to the wind, and sees the type of reaction the views of a Jason Whitlock receive...

Work harder Obama. For I am deeply cynical.

hit and run

Oh and to tie a couple of things together.

Whitlock had likened Jackson and Sharpton to terrorists ... here's the video at HotAir.

Well. The now infamous Obama line is as reported at Politico.com

The biggest enemy I think we have in this whole process ... it's not just terrorists, it's not just Hezbollah, it's not just Hamas -- it's also cynicism

YOU CAN SAVE ME OBAMA!!

Obama, if you pull these two ideas together -- you run the risk of getting my vote.

Maybe not for president, but you might supplant Tom Maguire as Time 2006 Man of the Year.

clarice

You are easy h & r.

lurker9876

DNC’s Media Matters Wants Censorship Of Airwaves and we know what their agenda is...

Do check Flopping Aces for his proposal to combat the A National Media Strategy

lurker9876

Hypothetical question:

In times of a war, many Americans support Bush. How many of you would continue to support Bush during peacetime? If 9/11 had not happened, would you still support Bush?

hit and run

You are easy h & r.


Obama shall fight cynicism on the seas and oceans, Obama shall fight cynicism with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, Obama shall defend our Island from cynicism, whatever the cost may be, Obama shall fight cynicism on the beaches, Obama shall fight cynicism on the landing grounds, Obama shall fight cynicism in the fields and in the streets, Obama shall fight cynicism in the hills; Obama shall never surrender; and even if, which Obama does not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated to cynicism, then his Audacity beyond the seas, armed and guarded by Hope, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old from cynicism.

clarice

Heh! You're doing well h & r even w/ having to defend the homeland single-handedly and being subject to child -induced sleep deprivation. I think you have your next article already written.

hit and run

I think you have your next article already written.


heh, if not for soccer and birthday parties...I'd be on it right now.

oh crud. we're gonna be late.

"KIDS!!!!! Get over here! Where are your shoes? Where's your hair bow? No, you can't wear your swimsuit to the birthday party, it's 50 degrees outside. Yes...you will go to the bathroom before we leave, I don't care if you say you don't have to go."

lurker9876

Hahaha!

Speaking about Obama, here is what Powerline posted as an example of media bias:

Today's Lesson in Media Bias

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