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Other Tom

"Asked if he had to join a hedge fund to learn about financial markets, Edwards replied, 'How else would I have done it?'"

Hillary Clinton would tell him all he had to do was read the Wall Street Journal. Worked for her.

Nevertheless, this transparent fraud continues to poll quite well in head-to-heads against Rudy, McCain et al. Can anyone imagine this twit as President of the United States?

anduril

Huh! Shows how stupid I am: I've always wanted to learn about financial markets but it never occurred to me to join a hedge fund. And although I read the editorial page of the WSJ religiously, I don't seem to get much smarter about financial markets. Maybe Hillary and I are on different pages?

clarice

TM, H & R noted yesterday that THIS hedge fund is hq'd in the tax-free haven of the Caymen Islands, something not disclosed in the original report. \
Maybe like the Kennedy's (tax free trust funds in Tahitit) and Heinz (tax free munis) etc., he is studying how much money can be tax sheltered before the poor notice.

anduril

clarice, I just put on my special read-between-the-lines spectacles and reread that. Are you suggesting that Heinz and Edwards and the Kennedy's are somehow cynical? That the class warfare rhetoric is--what? Rhetoric? I can't bear the disillusion--I'll have to stomp my specs!

Y'know, no matter how many times you get your face rubbed in it, it really is breathtaking.

clarice

Maybe it is just age but the older I get the more I believe that a decent society cannot exist without a strong and vibrant middle class who maintain the very habits of mind and traits that the very rich despise. Representation w/out taxation means those of the very rich who seek political office have a large class of people to enlist in their war against the middle class. (The old grasshopper versus the ant.)

glasater

Last Sunday--Chris Wallace asked Edwards about the Cayman Island connection directly. Edwards responded that he did not know--while he was with the fund--about this and admitted it was not a good move on his part.

Jane

I really think what I find the most amazing trait on the left is what they can say with a straight face. You really have to give them some points for that. Edwards, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Hillary - they all have advanced degrees in lying convincingly.

It's a heck of a major.

hit and run

From the WaPo article with the Cayman info...and of course....this is priceless...

Edwards has accused the Bush administration of aiding companies in evading taxes through offshore entities. "These guys are making it tougher for working dads to get $400 from an earned income tax credit, while they're letting corporations shield $40 billion in offshore tax havens," he said in a June 5, 2003, speech.

And during the 2004 vice presidential debates with Dick Cheney, Edwards called for an end to offshore tax havens -- whether for corporations or wealthy investors -- as he cited the offshore vehicles Cheney's former company, Halliburton Co., used for tax savings.

Paul Zrimsek

Leave aside the nonsense about poverty, and working for a hedge fund would indeed be one king hell way of learning about financial markets. What the hedge fund gets out of paying a "consultant" who doesn't know the business is less clear. (Were Edwards part of the Republican climate of corruption, to ask the question would be to answer it. As it stands, it's a deep mystery.)

anduril

"Representation w/out taxation"

Second time in as many days that I've seen that phrase--and I like it a lot! You realize, of course, that's revolutionary talk.

Lew Clark

Next up. Edwards plans to become a slumlord to learn about inner city poverty and to join a lacrosse team to learn about rape victims.

Paul Zrimsek

Last Sunday--Chris Wallace asked Edwards about the Cayman Island connection directly. Edwards responded that he did not know--while he was with the fund--about this and admitted it was not a good move on his part.

No surprise. Edwards is sitting at the defense table on this one, and his ideas about due diligence have changed accordingly.

hit and run

Lew:
Next up. Edwards plans to become a slumlord to learn about inner city poverty

Well, Edwards could perhaps tap Tony Rezko since Obama is trying to distance himself from him...might need to act quick, though, in case Rezko is convicted...

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said Monday he never received complaints about poor living conditions from residents of deteriorated properties owned by one of his early and prominent political supporters, Antoin "Tony" Rezko.

Obama, a Democratic presidential contender, also said "nobody's been more disappointed than me" in learning of the controversial history of Rezko, who pleaded not guilty after being indicted last fall on federal influence-peddling and fraud charges.

hit and run

What is Edwards trying to learn here...rap music or yoga?

Questions for Russell Simmons
(co-founder of Def Jam Recordings and the so-called C.E.O. of hip-hop)

...
Are there any presidential candidates who inspire you?
I talk to John Edwards more than I talk to anyone. He has said more things about the conditions we need to think about. He went to yoga with me. He did the whole class, an hour and a half. He sweated like crazy. He’s in good shape, but it was hard on him.

clarice

H & R Since you haven't apparently, I submitted a blog on this, calling Edwards a Hedgehog.

hit and run

Yes, I didn't do anything for Edwards.

I tried to push something out on Obama yesterday, got home tried to get on the computer and was intercepted by an unruly mob of 3 people desperate for my attention.

(Don't tell Obama, but he's a little lower on the priority scale)

Actually, I did submit something yesterday but it was half-baked and stunk which, come to think of it would be a pretty good representation of Obama himself...we'll see what time permits today

hit and run

Heh, Sue...well, what did happen on May 9, 2004?

Googling we find a few things...

  • US Vice President Dick Cheney has come out in support of embattled Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, calling him the best person the United States has had in the post

  • Mexican Department Of Defense Acknowledge UFOs In Mexico

  • Mothers’ Day May 9, 2004

  • Encouraging schoolchildren to experiment with oral sex could prove the most effective way of curbing teenage pregnancy

  • Appalled Moderate

    h&r:

    Are you sure your googling is work safe?

    hit and run

    No. But I have dirt on everyone above me in the food chain, so....

    manys

    Clinton did it, too!

    hit and run

    Wow. Sarkozy in his first speech to France as president-elect.

    "France will be at the sides of the Libyan nurses locked up for eight years; France will not abandon Ingrid Betancourt; France will not abandon the women who are condemned to the burqa; France will not abandon the women who do not have liberty. France will be by the side of the oppressed of the world. This is the message of France; this is the identity of France; this is the history of France."

    Read the post at Volokh where this is quoted from. Sarkozy deviated from his written prepared text on several occasions, including this entire paragraph....wow.

    David Kopel ends the post at Volokh with:

    If Sarkozy can govern as he spoke, if he can lead France in leading the worldwide fight for human rights, if he can energize 21st century France with the eternal truths of liberty that are the best elements of France's tradition, then Nicolas Sarkozy--like Charles de Gaulle and Ronald Reagan--will earn a place in the pantheon of the most important democratic leaders, who took a tired and timid nation in decline, and led it to a new era of greatness.
    hit and run

    Hmmmmm, back to the topic of the post...

    [Edwards] said the amount will be revealed when he releases his financial disclosure forms due May 15.


    WHOA! Just caught that.

    This whole millions of dollars earned at a hedge fund company and hundreds of thousands of dollars raised for his campaign there and offshore tax shelters and whatnot...IS ALL JUST A RUSE.

    Read between the lines and you will clearly see that the May 15 filing will have more extravagent hair, nail and skin care expenses in it and he is just trying to throw everyone off with a red herring.

    Keep focused people. Eyes on the ball.

    hoosierhoops

    I posted the following the other day and still feel it's a valid view of Edwards....

    Today's insane quote from Edwards...
    Presidential candidate John Edwards said Monday it's silly to suggest that his wealth and expensive tastes have hurt his credibility as an advocate for the poor.
    "Would it have been better if I had done well and didn't care?" Edwards asked.

    Mr. Edwards...Ya think?
    Bill Gates have more money in his change bowl than you and he doesn't get 400 dollar haircuts..
    I have been blessed with money also..The vanity of a 400.00 cut totally destroyed your street cred pal..
    and because you can't even see that amazes everyone I know..
    Spend 20.00 to style your hair and you can donate that amount to feed a thousand African children and then..maybe then, we'll buy your lame party line of 2 america's..no wait..It's too late. No one will swallow that now. Your 15 minutes are up..

    ****************************
    My distaste of edwards runs deep..but some of you have called him a liar here.
    Although i detest the man it's not fair to call him a liar just like it's not fair saying bush lied about Iraq.
    If Edwards believes his nonsensical stump speeches then so be it but i don't think labeling pols we dislike as 'liars' is right.
    Perhaps a better expression would be just 'flat wrong'.

    Other Tom

    Hoosierhoops, I for one have not called him a liar. I'm not aware of anyone having done so on this site, but I may well be wrong because I haven't by any means read everything posted here.

    While I don't call him a liar I do, very lustily, call him a fraud, a hypocrite, a foppish dilettante and an idle poseur. Will that do?

    gmax

    Yeah hypocrite works for me. But it sure seems like most Democrat pols fit that moniker. But only a few do it with quite as much chutzpah as the silky one.

    clarice

    I'll call him a liar ---for saying that he consulted for that hedge fund to learn anything about poverty. There!

    H & R that Sarkozy quote is fantastic.

    hoosierhoops

    While I don't call him a liar I do, very lustily, call him a fraud, a hypocrite, a foppish dilettante and an idle poseur. Will that do?

    Posted by: Other Tom |
    Yes OT..I suppose that will do fine in edwards case. ;)
    The thing is..I really think he believes in what he is saying...
    perhaps delutional is closier to the facts before us.
    And Clarice..I must admit you make a strong case for intentional deception on edwards part...As usual you bring clarity to the table..I just hate the idea of people throwing around the word liar in politics.
    It gets old when all i hear is bush lied..blah,blah...
    H&R: when's the book coming out? you rock dude...

    Sue

    The thing is..I really think he believes in what he is saying

    All the more reason he should never be considered a viable candidate for president. However, I don't believe he believes it. He says what he thinks the jury wants to hear. And from the looks of his house, he was good at it.

    clarice

    As H & R's biggest fan (excspt for his certainly adoring family) here are his words in neon (well on NRO's the Corner)
    "Re: Oooops [Jonah Goldberg]


    From a reader:

    Oh, sure, Obama was wrong about the KS story — but piece together his thinking, and perhaps that many dead isn't entirely impossible...

    What if the threat of the "Tyranny of Oil" which Obama has likened to the tyranny of fascism and communism were to unite in an alliance with "Cynicism" which Obama has identified as our biggest enemy? And heaven help us if that unholy union were to engage in the "Verbal Violence" which Obama pointed us to in the wake of the Virginia Tech tragedy.

    A conflation of all his abstract analogies would create an unimaginable toll, one that would create casualities in numbers like the stars in the sky or the grains of sand on a beach or like the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin or the number of roads a man must walk down before they call him a man or something.


    05/09 10:05 AM"

    clarice

    From TBOTW:

    Nowhere in the dispatch does Edwards explain what his hedge-fund work taught him about poverty. Reader Robert Paci notes:

    I work in the hedge-fund industry and have yet to learn anything about poverty from the experience. In fact, I went into the into the field to avoid poverty. I think almost everyone in the industry sees it my way. Maybe Edwards knows something we don't.

    PeterUK.

    Clarice,
    "Nowhere in the dispatch does Edwards explain what his hedge-fund work taught him about poverty."

    Poverty,something that money can't buy.

    Jane

    Someone, probably instapundit was saying that there are hedge funds out there that commit to certain causes, like education or alleviating poverty and stuff like that. The Hedge fund Edwards went to school on is not tied to any cause except making as much money as possible.

    I think you can feel pretty comfortable calling him a liar at this point.

    clarice

    Thank you, Jane.(Remember he was heading up the Poverty Center at the time he was "consulting" for this Cayman Island tax-sheltered hedge fund. A liar, a posuer and a hyporcrite. Hedgehog.

    Maybeex

    My favorite thing about Fortress's relationship with it's intern, John Edwards, was when the WaPo published the donations Fortress employees had made to the Edwards campaign.
    People were maxing out, sometimes writing two checks for several thousand dollars on the same day. Secretaries were giving $2300.

    And one guy donated $10.

    You don't think there was any pressure from the management to donate, do you?

    Other Tom

    The Kennedy family should give one of its Profiles in Courage awards to the dude who gave the $10.

    anduril

    While I don't call him a liar I do, very lustily, call him a fraud, a hypocrite, a foppish dilettante and an idle poseur. Will that do?

    Posted by: Other Tom | May 09, 2007 at 04:23 PM

    A conflation of all his abstract analogies would create an unimaginable toll, one that would create casualities in numbers like the stars in the sky or the grains of sand on a beach or like the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin or the number of roads a man must walk down before they call him a man or something.

    hit and run

    I think you can feel pretty comfortable calling him a liar at this point.

    Posted by: Jane | May 09, 2007 at 06:39 PM

    A liar, a posuer and a hyporcrite. Hedgehog.

    Posted by: clarice | May 09, 2007 at 06:52 PM

    Maybe we should just leave the question of the proper moniker to Ann Coulter? My take: never trust someone with hair like that. The guy probably spends more time in front of a mirror than the world class narcissist Clinton.

    Why didn't I say that:

    Poverty,something that money can't buy.

    Posted by: PeterUK. | May 09, 2007 at 06:15 PM

    Other Tom

    From the BBC, no less:

    "The world's biggest economy topped the rankings of 55 nations compiled in the Swiss-based IMD World Competitiveness Yearbook 2007.

    "Singapore was the second most competitive nation, moving up a place from last year, followed by Hong Kong, Luxembourg and Denmark.

    "Britain came in 20th place in the rankings, unchanged from 2006.

    "The least competitive nation was Venezuela, whose government has recently embarked on a forced nationalisation drive."

    Go ahead, H&R--blame it on Bush.

    Deagle

    Well, since the Edwards campaign has very little to do with the current election (fat chance in hell)... Let's say that Clarice will win the nomination for the Republicans... Oh well, just wistful thinking...

    Sorry Clarice...

    hit and run

    Don't be so hard on Pink Sapphire Hedgehog.

    His quote was, "to learn about financial markets and their relationship to poverty "

    He certainly could have learned of the inverse relationship between access to and participation in financial markets via employment in a hedge fund and poverty.

    Sure, we can scoff that that seems ridiculously obvious, but he's probably a kinsethetic learner.

    hit and run

    Other Tom:
    Go ahead, H&R--blame it on Bush.

    Oh definitely. I Blame Bush. BDS has been a large contributing factor in driving Chavez literally stark raving mad.

    hit and run

    PUK:
    Poverty,something that money can't buy.

    Heh.

    Try this thought experiment...

    Working as an ambulance chasing trial lawyer, a pandering class-warfare promoting politician and a grubby hedge fund manager has left Edwards with a poverty of [fill in the blank].

    [VIMH: But he grew up the son of a mill worker!]
    Well he's a son of a something all right.

    PeterUK.

    "Working as an ambulance chasing trial lawyer, a pandering class-warfare promoting politician and a grubby hedge fund manager has left Edwards with a poverty of [fill in the blank]."

    Obvious the man has acquired poverty offsets.

    Rick

    "One of Bill Clinton's many infuriating aspects was his unshakable belief that that he could sell any BS, however outrageous, to the rubes."

    I cut the slob some slack, because it ain't bragging if you can do it. And boy, did he! The "sophisticates" were gulled even more than the rubes.

    Cordially...

    clarice

    Thanks but I'm passing, Deagle. I'd rather right the Obama book with H & R.

    Deagle

    Hehe... Oh well, a good book by H % R would a poor substitute. Sorry to hear that you are not running...(heh). Keep the chin up...I do love your input...

    Nick Kasoff - The Thug Report

    He was for the hedge fund before he was against the hedge fund. Now cut the nonsense and let's go windsurfing.

    Nick Kasoff
    The Thug Report

    Other Tom

    OK, folks. I mean, I hate to say I told you so or anything like that, but here we go already with the stuff about how the Fort Dix Six would never have been a problem if it weren't for--you guessed it, us.

    This is from the NYTimes:

    "He [one of the Six] wanted the informer to lead the attack, according to a federal complaint. 'I am at your services,' the young man is quoted as telling the informer, who had presented himself as an Egyptian with a military background.

    "That moment, recorded on tape and submitted in federal court this week in Camden, N.J., as the authorities charged six Muslim men in the plot, captures something of the complexity of using informers in terror investigations. The informer, sent to penetrate a loose group of men who liked to talk about jihad and fire guns in the woods, had come to be seen by the suspects as the person who might actually show them how an act of terror could be carried off.

    "Indeed, over the months that followed, as the targets of the investigation spoke with a sometimes unfocused zeal about waging holy war, the informer, one of two used in the investigation, would tell them that he could get them the sophisticated weapons they wanted. He would accompany them on surveillance missions to military installations, debating the risks, and when the men looked ready to purchase the weapons, it was the informer who seemed to be pushing the idea of buying the deadliest items, startling at least one of the suspects."

    Get it? These guys just like to shoot off guns in the woods. Did they ever pose any kind of danger? Of course not--at least not until that nasty informant pushed them over the edge. Anyway, it's all very "complex."

    Trust me, this is just the beginning...

    Rick Ballard

    H & R,

    I think a series of childrens books on the Pink Saphire is in order:

    Who's Afraid of BHO?

    Pinky and the Beast

    Pinky on the Trail etc.

    Sure, it's a limited market, but Pinky's story needs to be told.

    To very gullible children.

    ann

    Did anyone listen to RUSH today?

    The Fort Dix terrorists could be among the Albanians Clinton brought to the U.S. from Kosovo. Very interesting connection!

    Looks like an article only our beloved Clarice would do justice.

    windansea

    Mexican Department Of Defense Acknowledge UFOs In Mexico

    Todos Santos near Cabo is a UFO hotspot...haven't seen any here in PV

    The thing is..I really think he believes in what he is saying...

    yikes...I hope you are kidding

    ann

    OT

    Checkout votevets.org. Someone needs to "Swift Boat" crazy Major General John Batiste. He is nuts.

    By the way, I love your posts. You remind me of my father-in-law. He was a great man and a Marine.

    Maybeex

    Other Tom-
    I admit it. All it would take for me to get involved in a plan to shoot up an Army base is for someone to just step up and organize the darn thing.
    I think anybody who says they wouldn't jump in and pledge his allegiance to this Egyptian-looking guy that promises AK-47s is just fooling himself.

    topsecretk9

    I dunno, but I am starting to get the feeling that Bolton and Wolfie intended on these things -- as in their mission was suspected to be short, it's been the "sunlight" mission...

    George Will

    "We are facing ... competition (from the capital markets). I think it's important that we effectively compete. Increasingly ... if the fight against poverty is successful, more and more countries will be in this middle-income category, and if this institution is going to remain relevant to the world, it obviously needs to be relevant to the middle-income countries." --- Mr. Wolfowitz's words are those of a man who has been in government much too long. He says private capital markets have become competitive with the bank's functions. But when those markets are not "competitive," that means only that they question the value added by loans the World Bank has wanted to make. If those markets are now eager to compete with the World Bank for clients, it is time for the bank to get out of the way.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117874835855997710.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    topsecretk9

    And seriously ...can we appoint a special prosecutor to go after the "leakers" and Blumenthal like smear merchants?

    ...Riza declined to comment for this story, but through interviews with friends and colleagues, the portrait emerges of a Muslim woman who draws her identity from both the Western and Arab worlds, a passionate advocate for women's rights, reform and democracy in the Middle East. Born in Saudi Arabia and educated at Oxford, she is a well traveled, multilingual woman whose expertise in the Middle East has impressed academics, think-tankers and other influential Washington figures.

    "She's a very competent person and knows the region well," says former Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who became acquainted with Riza as a board member of the Foundation for the Future, established two years ago to fund pro-democracy efforts...

    ...Piercy and others point out that the World Bank would like to set a high ethical bar for the countries it serves. Nepotism -- or the appearance of any kind of non-merit-based favoritism -- can undermine a nascent democracy or economy.

    After recent disclosures that Wolfowitz had directed generous pay and promotions for Riza in her "external assignment," the drumbeat for his ouster grew in tempo and volume. Amid the din, her friends say, Riza has been reduced to a demeaning caricature as "the girlfriend" whose successes relied on Wolfowitz's intervention.

    She defended herself at a bank ethics committee hearing in April, saying her life and career "were torn asunder" when she was reassigned...

    Where are the poor delicate little petal PLAME apologists? OH? the really like smears? Frauds? We thought so.

    topsecretk9

    Sorry -- link

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/09/AR2007050902501_2.html

    Few details about Riza's youth or family are publicly known, but acquaintances say she grew up in Libya. She attended Catholic boarding schools in England and on the island of Malta, received a bachelor's degree from the London School of Economics and a master's in social studies from St. Antony's College in Oxford. There she met Turkish Cypriot Bulent Aliriza. They married and had a son.

    Ahem.

    topsecretk9

    Just thought of a new group for JOMers

    TWIST in honor of of the "literary flair" aficionado Wilson's favorite lie

    TAXPAYERS WANT INTELLIGENT SANE TRUTHTELLERS! dot org

    Jane

    I've missed the whole "H&R and Clarice write a book about Obama" thing. I approve, of course, altho I think you should expand it to include the Pink Sapphire and Hillary. And then of course it will be banned for being one-sided.

    Will you guys autograph my copy/

    Paul Zrimsek

    There are two Americas: One is on the North American mainland, and the other is in the Caribbean south of Jamaica.

    hit and run

    About the book.

    I'm currently negotiating.

    A publisher for an advance. And a publicist for Obama to keep quiet.

    The publisher is offering $14.67

    The publicist, 3 cases of beer.

    The book looks like a longshot at this point.

    Jane

    I'll give you 4 cases of beer and a bottle of good tequila to write it.

    fdcol63

    Wouldn't the corollary to Edwards' "understanding poverty by earning millions at a hedge fund" be this:

    "Understanding wealth by giving it all away to live as an unemployed homeless person on the street" ?

    Come on, John. Give it a try! LOL

    hit and run

    fdcol63:
    "Understanding wealth by giving it all away to live as an unemployed homeless person on the street" ?


    Wait. You may be on to something here. But frame it so that it would resonate in today's pop culture.

    Isn't there a reality show where two families switch wives? And usually it's like a rich family and a poor family?

    Some poor, destitute wife could go live in the Edwards mansion and John could go live with some poor, destitute husband as his wife for a month.

    No spa treatments, no facials, no manicures or pedicures, not fancy hairstyling -- FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH.

    Film the whole thing.

    hit and run

    Jane:
    I'll give you 4 cases of beer and a bottle of good tequila to write it.


    OK, but you have to give it to me upfront, and I won't sign any contracts.

    And if you're worried about me just trying to get the alcohol without any intention to write the book...don't worry, I have every intention and will never stop thinking about writing the book.

    Just like I have every intention of putting in that patio off our deck and never stop thinking about it.

    SunnyDay

    OT

    Judiciary committee hearing w/Gonzales is on C-SPAN 3 live.

    Conyers can be very entertaining.

    Jane

    FRED THOMPSON: "Oh, to be sure, the French media hates us, but there are a lot of people who say ours does too. Regardless, Sarkozy’s victory has sent shock waves through the world’s media centers."

    Has anyone else noticed that Fred Thompson publishes something almost every day, and that it is always interesting and about something topical that we care about.

    Contrast that to Barack, Hillary and the Pink Sapphire.

    (Thompson article is from NRO)

    alcibiades

    OT: Wolfowitz.

    Here's another interesting take on what was the immediate trigger of the bank putsch against him. Graft Fights Back

    hit and run

    Fred's got a gig with ABC radio...(that NRO picks up)


    The Fred Thompson Report

    About the Show The Fred Thompson Report contains the commentaries and opinions of Fred Dalton Thompson.

    Mr. Thompson is a former Republican senator from Tennessee whose commentaries, "The Fred Thompson Report," can be heard on the ABC Radio network.

    Jane

    I tell you, Fred Rocks.

    Oh and I'm considering your offer H&R - sipping tequila as I do. I seem to have this bottle hanging around.

    clarice

    I keep telling typepad to keep me signed up for 2 weeks, but it has a different idea of 2 weeks than I do, apparently. (More like 15 minutes. Time Flies on Typepad.)

    H & R , I suspect you will drink the advance and I'll get stuck ..still I'll up the ante if you;ll do it.

    Taranto has another edwards doozy this morning. The stuff writes itself.

    alcibiades, thanks for the Financial Post cite. It's a great article.

    It's time for all those post war institutions--the UN, the WB, the IMF to be scrapped. And I say that knowing what a disaster that would be for the airlines --loss of all those First Class fliers --and the fancy restaurants in NYC and DC.

    clarice

    Oh--and I heart Thompson because those daily posts of his are clearly written, straight forward and express my views exactly.
    I am sick of scripted pablum designed to match focus group concerns.

    clarice

    Bless OT''s prescient heart. Right on schedule the NYT runs a piece questioning the informant in the Ft Dix case.
    The front page of the WaPo also seems to have been outsourced today to raving lefty lunatics.
    (If you haven't read Iowahawk's letters to subscribers detailing the decline of a fictional paper, run over there and do it now.Nothing could better explain the dreck filled NYT and Wa Po and why their subscription revenue is tanking. We get it only because my husband wants the sports page.)

    Jane

    I keep telling typepad to keep me signed up for 2 weeks, but it has a different idea of 2 weeks than I do, apparently

    I'm under that 15 minutes = 2 weeks rule too. It's not like I'm getting any younger under it.

    Where did you see the Taranto piece Clarice?

    Jane

    Found it!

    hit and run

    Clarice:
    I suspect you will drink the advance and I'll get stuck ..still I'll up the ante if you;ll do it.


    Well, I can most assuredly make the same committment to you that I did to Jane. I will never stop thinking about writing the book. I will definitely muse. There will be much ruminating. I am committed to ponder at length and meditate in depth on the book.

    hit and run

    Yeah, what's up with best of the web coming out before 10 am? I hadn't even gotten to yesterday's.

    Most days I reply (i read it via email subscription) with some unusally insightful wit that Taranto and staff mostly ignore, yet with faint hope they will run with it.

    Alas today, even that small glimmer of hope was unavailable to me because today's edition came out so early.

    I Blame Bush

    Other Tom

    I'm having the same experience with TypeKey, but if that's what's keeping out the bores it's more than worth it. For my part, I have zero clue as to how any of this stuff works.

    Taranto set the all-time indoor record for early Best of the Web with today's edition. The guy is mighty sharp and funny, but he could use H&R's input. H&R, try a couple of extra shooters before you write him; that oughta put you over the hump.

    Other Tom

    Wow. I really recommend going to LGF, scrolling down a bit, and playing the six-minute clip of Glenn Beck outlining the saga of how and why that network prevented him from airing the Hamas Mickey Mouse video. It is simply appalling. Bear in mind that this is the network that had no qualms at all, a few years ago, about running a vicious and absolutely false story (later retractd in the face of undeniable evidence) by Peter Arnett about US troops using poison gas during a raid in Vietnam.

    Another media Profile in Courage.

    alcibiades

    Re: the demise of newspapers, I'm happy to live in a city where I can get the NY Sun delivered.

    clarice

    There's so much material available now that the campaigns have begun, Taranto will probably start posting new columns by 7 a.m. in a couple of weeks.

    Specter

    Welll...back to Edwards. He joined the hedge fund to learn about poverty and to become a Master Trader. I hear through the grapevine that his next endeavor is crab boats of the Alaskan shore. He will be baiting the boxes making him a Master Baiter.

    hit and run

    Michael Moore Faces US Treasury Probe

    Academy Award-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is under investigation by the U.S. Treasury Department for taking ailing Sept. 11 rescue workers to Cuba for a segment in his upcoming health-care documentary "Sicko," The Associated Press has learned.
    ...
    The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control notified Moore in a letter dated May 2 that it was conducting a civil investigation for possible violations of the U.S. trade embargo restricting travel to Cuba. A copy of the letter was obtained Tuesday by the AP.

    Oh Good Lord

    After receiving the letter, Moore arranged to place a copy of the film in a "safe house" outside the country to protect it from government interference, said the person working on the release of the film.

    We need a quote where he fears for his life or fears being sent to a secret CIA prison and being waterboarded.

    jimmyk

    Re: Clarice's allusion to the "grasshopper and the ant."

    Here's the modern version of the fable.

    clarice

    That Glenn Beck story has me steamed. The media in the US refused to run the pics of jumpers off the WTC or the beheadings of Pearl etc but ran the panties on head stuff at Abu Ghraib one trillion times. And that's just one example.
    Yesterday the NYT ran a pic of the queen alongside Bush. His head was cropped and the caption read the queen and "an escort".

    Now, Obama is getting the star treatment ..one paper even cutting off webpage comments critical of him and another media outlet is doctoring his photos
    to make him look better (as opposed to those that make Rice look like a she-devil).

    Lewt's start a move for a one day boycott of the press .(NYT,WaPo,LAT)to oppose this crap..I do not think they's yet caught on that about 50% of their readers are not amused

    Jane

    I hope they nail Moore's ass to the wall. He likes Cuba so much, leave him at Gitmo, altho he'd probably break the beds.

    Crust

    Any thoughts on the Gonzales hearing?

    My favorite line so far: "I think I may be aware of that." Apparently, AGAG couldn't quite remember whether or not he was supposed to have forgotten.

    Other Tom

    I think they made a dumb move with Moore. It's a civil investigation, not criminal, and all it will do is feed his publicity machine. But this administration appears to have an unerring eye for the dumb move.

    clarice

    Very funny,jimmyk..and true. Look at NO versus Kansas.

    cathyf
    I keep telling typepad to keep me signed up for 2 weeks, but it has a different idea of 2 weeks than I do, apparently. (More like 15 minutes. Time Flies on Typepad.)
    I think that the thing that stays logged in for like 15 minutes is not typepad but JOM -- because when I hit the "Sign In" link and am still logged in to typepad it just signs me in without collecting username and password (and also signs me in to CQ and other typepad sites.) I suspect that the typepad "2 weeks" is set to 14*24 which is supposed to be 336 hours, but instead the function takes minutes and 336 minutes is 5 hours 36 minutes. I've never measured it, but yeah, I think it goes asking for username and password again after about that long.
    Jane

    from where I sit, the Gonzales thing has pretty much blown over. We're onto bigger scandals now - like the 10k dead in Kansas because George Bush took the hummers to Iraq.

    PatrickR

    'from where I sit, the Gonzales thing has pretty much blown over.'

    It's not over til the fat lady sings (and the Justice Eight finish whining):

    ----------quote---------
    Two former U.S. attorneys said Wednesday they believe the White House had them fired along with six other federal prosecutors, and that ongoing investigations into the dismissals could result in criminal charges against senior Justice Department officials.

    John McKay, the former U.S. attorney for Western Washington, and David Iglesias, the former U.S. attorney for New Mexico, also said they believe Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty lied under oath when they testified to Congress about the firings of eight U.S. attorneys. ....

    McKay and Iglesias said they still don't know who at the White House ultimately put them on the firing list. But McKay said he believes obstruction-of-justice charges will be filed if investigators conclude any of the dismissals were motivated by an attempt to influence public-corruption or voter-fraud investigations.

    "I think there will be a criminal case that will come out of this," McKay said during a meeting Wednesday with Seattle Times editors and reporters. "This is going to get worse, not better."

    Additionally, McKay and Iglesias said they believe White House strategist Karl Rove and his aides instigated the dismissals and that someone in the White House ultimately decided who among the nation's 93 U.S. attorneys should be fired.
    -----------endquote--------

    Hey, if Valerie and Joe can get rich by running all over crying in their beer, why not these guys.

    Jane

    It's possible, but no one is paying attention. Even the blogs seem to have dropped it.

    clarice

    Did you notice? After the Waxman fandango, Val has been absolutely mum..even cancelling all her joint speaking engagements with Munchausen.

    Before I die, I want to know who cooked up their little putsch.

    hit and run

    Other Tom:
    I think they made a dumb move with Moore.


    Well, yeah -- and think about it. What if they try and "nail Moore's ass to the wall" as Jane suggested...

    You think you could find a nail strong enough to hold him and a wall that wouldn't collapse?

    Yeah, and I bet you would also believe that fire could melt steel.

    clarice

    And as far as I can tell, the CIA's general counsel is still "studying" whether she came within the meaning of covert in the IIPA.

    Also, no word from the US Ct of Appeals on the Dow Jones case to unseal the redacted portions of the Fitz affidavit and the opinion in the Miller case.

    AND no word from the DoJ's OPR on my complaint about Fitz which in Nov they told me they were examining and would let me know the outcome of the inquiry.

    Mum. Silent. Gornisht.

    hit and run

    Clarice:
    Before I die, I want to know who cooked up their little putsch.


    Well. Whoever in the JOM Cabal that was supposed to bid on that auction for a lunch at a safe house with Joe and Val dropped the ball.

    cathyf
    McKay said he believes obstruction-of-justice charges will be filed if investigators conclude any of the dismissals were motivated by an attempt to influence public-corruption or voter-fraud investigations.
    Ok, so the head of the Executive Branch, who is the chief law-enforcement officer of the United States, fired a couple of guys who were exercising prosecutorial discretion by not prosecuting public-corruption or voter-fraud cases. I know that the WH has always just rolled over for this nonsense in the past, but maybe Tony Snow ought to point out that according the non-kafka definition of "obstruction", the people on the hook for "obstructing" an investigation are the people who were trying to slow or stop it, not the people trying to make it a higher priority.

    ...And perhaps end with a discussion of the psychological term "projection."

    Crust

    PatrickR:
    It's not over til the fat lady sings (and the Justice Eight finish whining)

    Actually, it's the Justice Nine now that it's been confirmed that Graves was fired.

    And that doesn't include Yang whom Miers wanted to fire. You know, the prosecutor who was investigating Rep. Lewis. And resigned to take a $1.6 million signing bonus at the firm that was defending Lewis against said investigation. It's a large law firm so who knows maybe it was all a big coincidence, but I think Dems can be forgiven for having suspicions.

    Gonzales' explanation of why Yang was in Miers' sights:

    "Ms. Miers may have known about Ms. Yang's concern about being able to remain on the job due to financial reasons.

    As Josh at TPM puts it:

    Needless to say it's always helpful to fire someone when they're looking for more profitable employment.

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