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July 19, 2007

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Pofarmer

Uhmmm, sorry to go OT. But here's another great reason that treating terrorists like criminals isn't going to work..

From Rednecks Revenge.

Three potential jurors in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing trial were sent home Monday after each said they were afraid their service might put them or their families in danger.

"Sounds like some pretty serious charges to me," said one man, moments after he was told why he was asked to show up at the federal courthouse. "I don't feel comfortable. ... This ain't like a parking ticket."

"Would the fear of retaliation affect the way you looked at the case?" defense attorney Greg Westfall asked.

"Yes," the man said.

I wonder how many of the Jurors in the Libby trial feared for their safety?

Cecil Turner

I think Patterico has a point here:

But the problem is that his campaign issued a blanket denial, when it shouldn’t have. That was an unforced error. For that reason, I disagree with my friend John when he says the story merits a “yawn” and nothing more.
"Never say 'never'" (along with "only fools are positive" [ed.--are you sure? Positive!]) is proper politico policy, and the incident suggests Thompson's team isn't ready for prime time. The underlying event, however, is an adequate substitute for Ambien. So unless you're a professional political handicapper, a yawn seems about right.

clarice

I believe he said he had no recollection of it. As Capt Ed points out 19 hours over so many years is peanuts and the record indicates that was mostly consulting with others in the firm who carried on the lobbying effort. For a paper which seemed singularly unaware of Villaregosa's affair, the LAT seems to be trying to make Mount Everest over an anthill.

boris

"Never say 'never'"

IIRC the "never" claim was withdrawn within a day or so. Long before any confirmation was provided.

MikeS

Didn't I read somewhere that Fred made $100,000 in cattle futures?
Or was that someone else?

NARCISO

On a more serious and relevant note, Musharaff may be driven out in Pakistan fall thanks to the intentional efforts of Maulana Ghazi and the 'dupes' involved in the Jalangir judge crisis. I see this connection in light of the previous NY media's misrepresentation of the Diem Govt seen in Mark Moyar's Triumph Forsaken. You know the drill; Chiang had to go because of
corruption, Batista had to go, because of corruption and ineptitude, Diem, Somoza,
the Salvadoran junta; Nnn Lol, the Pahlavis, and likely the Sauds after that. When Mao, the Sandinistas, FMLN, the mullahs, and the Wahhabi Shura council
put together their turbas, Year Zero checklists, CDR's etc; we are not to criticize them; because after all we're responsible for their rise, and we're responsible if they fall. You know the drill.

Ralph L

"Why not the best?"
Wasn't that Clinton's 1992 campaign book? An appropriate, but obscure allusion.

Gmax

Maybe it takes a village to hide the records?

Gmax

Maybe it takes a village to hide the records?

kim

What do you think of the Badger's reporting, narciso?
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NARCISO

Who's the Badger: Dalrymple

clarice

Narciso the WSJ was on that page , too, yesterday.

Pofarmer

This just speaks of the strength of B. Hussein's candidacy. He's never done anything.

clarice

Narciso, the push to get "Musharraf" to allow in a more deomcratic structure has been wacko and it has been the prejudice of this Administration for day one. I've been hoping all along that a gimlet eyed view of turning Peshawar into a New Hampshire townhall was just a cynical ploy. I continue to hope that's true, and that this time "the best you have isn't good enough" ploy will fail.

clarice

**Narciso, the push to get Musharraf to allow in a more democratic structure has been wacko and it has been the prejudice of this Administration from day one. I've been hoping all along that a gimlet eyed view of turning Peshawar into a New Hampshire townhall was just a cynical ploy. I continue to hope that's true, and that this time "the best you have isn't good enough" ploy will fail.*************

Patrick R. Sullivan

OT: The Hardball transcript is up on Judy Miller's appearance:

MATTHEWS: Judy, I believe in you. You‘re great. And by the way, I didn‘t ask you about Scooter Libby because—because the president didn‘t let‘s make it clear what happened here. If he had pardoned the guy, we could talk because there‘d be no further legal action against him. But because he‘s now floating around there in limbo, as the guy with clemency commutation but still appealing his case, you can‘t talk about the case.

MILLER: That‘s right.

MATTHEWS: I completely understand that. I sympathize with you.

MILLER: Thank you, Chris.

MATTHEWS: And I sometimes even sympathize with Scooter Libby.

(LAUGHTER)

MATTHEWS: Anyway, thank you, Judy Miller.

(LAUGHTER)

MILLER: Thank you, Chris Matthews.

maryerose

Patrick Sullivan:
Thank you for your info on Judy Miller. I bet it just kills Chris Matthews that he can't talk about this topic. Remember he is the one who was hyperventilating about neocons and prompted Libby to call Russert in the first place and we all know how that turned out.

Nick Kasoff

You're right, this proves that Thompson is no good. Next thing you know, we'll probably find out he lobbied for tobacco companies. In fact, can anyone disprove that Fred Thompson is a distant relative of Jack Abramoff? I didn't think so.

Nick Kasoff
The Thug Report

Patrick R. Sullivan

'I bet it just kills Chris Matthews that he can't talk about this topic.'

He's full of it, and so is Judy. They can talk about it, but for obvious reasons they don't want to.

Jane

Judge has dismissed Plame lawsuit, Fox reporting.

ordi

There is a 41 page opinion written by the judge. Now that will be an interesting read!

cfoster

I just heard Plame's suit against Bush, et al was dismissed. I look forward to reading about that here.

PaulL

The judge in the Plame lawsuit must be PART OF THE CHENEY CONSPIRACY! Isn't it obvious?

PeterUK

More on tossed Plame lawsuit.I say Hillary ,bad timing old girl.

Gmax

Judge in Plame bullshit case calls her case "Bullshit". No doubt Joe Wilson will be along shortly to tell us all that Judge is a know nothing lowlife who is covering up for the soon to be impeached Dick Cheney, or some other such nonsense.

Publius

When can we expect Judge Walton's memorandum opinion on this ruling?

Gmax

Judge in Plame bullshit case calls her case "Bullshit". No doubt Joe Wilson will be along shortly to tell us all that Judge is a know nothing lowlife who is covering up for the soon to be impeached Dick Cheney, or some other such nonsense.

kim

N'iso:

arablinks.blogspot.com
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Topsecretk9

--No doubt Joe Wilson will be along shortly to tell us all that Judge is a know nothing lowlife who is covering up for the soon to be impeached Dick Cheney, or some other such nonsense.--

Well a few weeks back he was bragging that Bate's wasn't buying defendants oral arguments.

kim

Bearing and rearing children is disempowering? What utterly mad mod hogwash.
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PeterUK

The syrup of figs and prune cocktail will be hitting moondatia any minute..NOW!

Topsecretk9

Publius

Walter left a link to it in Plame Day? thread - I think it was Plame Day thread

Publius

Thanks for the heads up Topsecretk9, but I was looking for Judge Walton's opinion. He has one on everything dosen't he?

Topsecretk9

OH - sorry, I read too fast. Yes we should see a memo of footnotes any minute now.

cfoster

the decision -


is
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2006cv1258-52

Gmax

As I understand the Judge, he says the law says the sole and exclusive remedy available to the plaintiffs is the Tort Claims administrative claim process. Gosh I wonder why they did not avail themselves of this much cheaper process? Ohhhh, the book needed publicity. Check.

Gmax

As I understand the Judge, he says the law says the sole and exclusive remedy available to the plaintiffs is the Tort Claims administrative claim process. Gosh I wonder why they did not avail themselves of this much cheaper process? Ohhhh, the book needed publicity. Check.

centralcal

Boy Publius, you nailed it about Judge Walton! (thanks for the laugh of the day!)

PeterUK

More Plame jubilation

hit and run

Brief timeout on the Plame down the Drain news.

I feel compelled to comment on Fred.

But Cecil earlier said exactly what I would have said.

Had I his eloquence.

Patrick R. Sullivan

Even Carol Leonnig gets it:

U.S. District Judge John D. Bates said that Cheney and White House aides cannot be held liable for the disclosure of information about Plame in the summer of 2003 while they were trying to rebut criticism of the administration's war efforts levied by her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV. The judge said such efforts were certainly part of the officials' scope of normal duties.
Rick Ballard

"I say Hillary, bad timing old girl."

My dear Mr Uk, the rapist's consort's appointment of Ambassador Munchausen may be more in reaction to his "psst, wanna see some pictures of Bongo Bill's real African Adventure?" comment to a campaign manager than to any perceived benefit with the nutroots. After all, Munchie's clame to fame was his success in making "arrangements" for that trip and "arrangements" is a word that covers the entire waterfront and, where Bill is concerned, the adjacent red light district.

Not that the Munchausen's would actually stoop to blackmail. Unless they had to, of course.

PeterUK

Mr Ballard,
Are you saying an ex-ambassador has been pssting in the ear of the wife of an ex-president?
What about protocol?

Gmax

or on her boots all the while telling her it was "raining".

PaulL

Judges Bates and Walton both were appointed to the FISA Court by Supreme Court Chief Roberts. Maybe Bates and Walton can share their thoughts?

In reading Bates's decision, I wasn't sure whether he was accepting all of Wilson's lies about there being no Saddam interest in yellowcake and that Wilson recognized that the documents were forged, or if Bates was merely saying that was the way reporters had reported it.

cfoster

I wasn't sure whether he was accepting all of Wilson's lies

For the purpose of a 12(b)(6) motion the court presumes plaintiff's factual allegations are true and so the facts are likely a recitation from a plaintiff's brief.

everson

The Shrew from Crew, Melanie Sloan, said on Hardball today that this decision would be appealed to the SC, if necessary, to obtain justice.

Phwwet...

PaulL

Thanks, cfoster.

cfoster

Essentially the court says, "Even if everything the plaintiff says were true, she STILL did not state a claim upon which relief could be granted."

Fred Thompson

Freds the best!

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