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July 02, 2007

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PeterUK.

I plopped down in my easy chair and turned on Channel 2
A bad gunslinger called Sneaky Fitz was chasin' poor Scooter
He trapped him in the old sawmill and said with an evil laugh,
"If you don't give me the deed to your ranch
I'll saw you all in half!"
And then he grabbed him (and then)
He tied him up (and then)
He turned on the bandsaw (and then, and then...!)

[Chorus:]
And then along came George
Tall thin George
Slow-walkin' George
Slow-talkin' George
Along came long, lean, lanky George

Pal2Pal (Sara)

The President:

This case has generated significant commentary and debate. Critics of the investigation have argued that a special counsel should not have been appointed, nor should the investigation have been pursued after the Justice Department learned who leaked Ms. Plame’s name to columnist Robert Novak. Furthermore, the critics point out that neither Mr. Libby nor anyone else has been charged with violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act or the Espionage Act, which were the original subjects of the investigation. Finally, critics say the punishment does not fit the crime: Mr. Libby was a first-time offender with years of exceptional public service and was handed a harsh sentence based in part on allegations never presented to the jury.

Others point out that a jury of citizens weighed all the evidence and listened to all the testimony and found Mr. Libby guilty of perjury and obstructing justice. They argue, correctly, that our entire system of justice relies on people telling the truth. And if a person does not tell the truth, particularly if he serves in government and holds the public trust, he must be held accountable. They say that had Mr. Libby only told the truth, he would have never been indicted in the first place.

Both critics and defenders of this investigation have made important points. I have made my own evaluation. In preparing for the decision I am announcing today, I have carefully weighed these arguments and the circumstances surrounding this case.

I like this.

chch16

Bush lacks the balls to fire Fitzgerald and he doesn't dare. Fitzgerald kicked Wells and Robbins ass in court pure and simple despite the millions of dollars. They made off like bandits with a ton of money.

Rick Ballard

I wonder if Fitz could get Rezko to flip on Obama? It would be fun to watch him try.

BobS

RichatUF: I'll bet they had the same look Robert Kardasian had when the OJ verdict was read. That "thank God we got away with that"
At any rate, Republicans are going to have learn to hit back as Democtrats have proved time and time agin they will lie to the American people. What a fraud on the American legal system this was that they perpetuated.
Small wonder many Republicanbs were outraged at any bill Ted Kennedy is for. Than can never be good news.

BobS

Oh there's sock puppet. You can say lots about Bush. Lacking balls is not one of them.

SunnyDay

Schumer issued some weasely statement on "equal justice under the law".

Posted by: clarice | July 02, 2007 at 06:16 PM

*****************

Certainly not equal to the "justice" handed out to dem politicians, who get little hand smackies, and usually keep their jobs while under indictment.

There goes Watergate II - for now, anyway.

topsecretk9

--This just in: Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann have driven a Mercedes into the side of the Capitol Building.

Details to follow.

SMG
--

Damn yuppies.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Not to change the subject, but ...

TALKING UP IMUS - RADIO SIGNALS OF A WFAN COMEBACK

BarCodeKing

Oooooh, the Democrat Cotton Mathers will not be happy about being denied their auto-da-fe. The witch hunt isn't complete until the witch is barbecued. Too bad for them. It's still a travesty of justice, but at least Mr. Libby avoids the total injustice of prison time, even if he does still have a huge fine and probation.

In a just world, it would be Joe and Valerie Wilson who had been trying to avoid going to prison.

maryrose

I always had confidence that President Bush would do the right thing in this case. This is a special thwack to Walton who exceeded his authority and to Fitz who misused his authority and was unsupervised throughout the proceedings. I wonder what the Wilsons's reaction will be?

maryrose

Chris Matthews is on vacation so it was up to Al Sharpton to break the news on Hardball. Afterword on Tucker, Shuster was foaming at the mouth calling Libby a leaker and comparing Armitage and Libby to bank robbers where one gets caught and the other doesn't. Pathetic!

BobS

Clarice/RichatUF: As to maryrose comments

This is a special thwack to Walton who exceeded his authority and to Fitz who misused his authority and was unsupervised throughout the proceedings.

Do either of these two clowns actually see this as a rebuke?

ann

PeterUK

you da man!! LOL

How about: Along came long, lean, lanky, BALLSY George

gmax

Well I have to admit to feeling a little bit better about Bush today. In the overall scheme of things, another fitzzled Gotcha for the Prog crowd. I am sure this will be an even more bitter pill once the realization sets in that Bush has beat them again. How does a man of such low intellect, always seem to come out on top of these superior intellects? ( I am choking back barf as I type this ).

Still they have gotten a minimum wage increase since their November triumph, and that should be enough to keep them happy for awhile. What you say, their natural state is outright misery and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Well I would guess that Bush just provide the means for them to enter their natural state!

As Snidely Whiplash used to say "Curses, foiled again."

PatrickR

This was the bare minimum of Bush's responsibility to a comrade. If he hadn't done at least this I'd have signed up for DeLong's 'Impeach George W. Bush. Impeach Him Now.' campaign.

I hope Libby continues with the appeal. He's the only honorable guy in whole mess.

Orson2

TOM McGUIRE!

EXPERIENCED EDITOR WANTS TO WORK WITH YOU!

please contact orson.

chch16

Statement by Criminal Bush Obstructing Justice and Covering His Own Scumbag Ass

This was done to secure that Libby the pussy who can't do the jail time won't flip and snitch on Cheney and Bush.

Will the Libby fundraisers give the money for charity or continue the appeal, that is sure to fail in the D.C. Circuit or after that if Rule 21 of the S. Ct. rules are deployed, in the S. Ct. even with Alito and Roberts joined at the hip in a majority of 5 with the nearly always guaranteed Kennedy swing vote.

Maybe Libby can get a job as a JOM commentor and Judy Miller as well.

Of course one of the scumbags who raised money for him will find some law research job for Libby if he wants one. I was looking forward to seeing him write briefs for postage stamps in the prison law library using outdated Federal Reporters and hand shepardizing.

Statement by the President

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
Monday, July 2, 2007; 5:53 PM

The United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit today rejected Lewis Libby's request to remain free on bail while pursuing his appeals for the serious convictions of perjury and obstruction of justice. As a result, Mr. Libby will be required to turn himself over to the Bureau of Prisons to begin serving his prison sentence.


I have said throughout this process that it would not be appropriate to comment or intervene in this case until Mr. Libby's appeals have been exhausted. But with the denial of bail being upheld and incarceration imminent, I believe it is now important to react to that decision.


From the very beginning of the investigation into the leaking of Valerie Plame's name, I made it clear to the White House staff and anyone serving in my administration that I expected full cooperation with the Justice Department. Dozens of White House staff and administration officials dutifully cooperated.


After the investigation was under way, the Justice Department appointed United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald as a Special Counsel in charge of the case. Mr. Fitzgerald is a highly qualified, professional prosecutor who carried out his responsibilities as charged.


This case has generated significant commentary and debate. Critics of the investigation have argued that a special counsel should not have been appointed, nor should the investigation have been pursued after the Justice Department learned who leaked Ms. Plame's name to columnist Robert Novak.

Furthermore, the critics point out that neither Mr. Libby nor anyone else has been charged with violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act or the Espionage Act, which were the original subjects of the investigation. Finally, critics say the punishment does not fit the crime:

Mr. Libby was a first-time offender with years of exceptional public service and was handed a harsh sentence based in part on allegations never presented to the jury.


Others point out that a jury of citizens weighed all the evidence and listened to all the testimony and found Mr. Libby guilty of perjury and obstructing justice. They argue, correctly, that our entire system of justice relies on people telling the truth. And if a person does not tell the truth, particularly if he serves in government and holds the public

trust, he must be held accountable. They say that had Mr. Libby only told

the truth, he would have never been indicted in the first place.


Both critics and defenders of this investigation have made important

points. I have made my own evaluation. In preparing for the decision I

am announcing today, I have carefully weighed these arguments and the circumstances surrounding this case.


Mr. Libby was sentenced to thirty months of prison, two years of probation, and a $250,000 fine. In making the sentencing decision, the district court rejected the advice of the probation office, which recommended a lesser sentence and the consideration of factors that could have led to a sentence of home confinement or probation.


I respect the jury's verdict. But I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive. Therefore, I am commuting the portion of Mr. Libby's sentence that required him to spend thirty months in prison.


My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long-lasting.


The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation of the prison term in Mr. Libby's case is an appropriate exercise of this power.


BobS

Fred Thpmpson: "I am very happy for Scooter Libby. I know this is a relief for he and his family."

I'm wondering if any other Rep candidate will jump on this. Thompson's lead on this one.

PeterUK.

ann,
Why not there are more verses.Feel free,watch the villains pull their cloaks over their faces and exit stage left.


[Chorus:]
And then along came Jones
Tall thin Jones
Slow-walkin' Jones
Slow-talkin' Jones
Along came long, lean, lanky Jones

Commercial came on, so I got up to get myself a snack
You should've seen what was goin' on by the time that I got back
Down in the old abandoned mine, Sweet Sue was havin' fits
That villain said, "Give me the deed to your ranch
Or I'll blow you all to bits!"
And then he grabbed her (and then)
He tied her up (and then)
He lit the fuse to the dynamite (and then, and then...!)

[Chorus]

I got so bugged I turned it off and turned on another show
But there was the same old shoot-'em-up and the same old rodeo
Salty Sam was tryin' to stuff Sweet Sue in a burlap sack
He said, "If you don't give me the deed to your ranch
I'm gonna throw you on the railroad tracks!"
And then he grabbed her (and then)
He tied her up (and then)
He threw her on the railroad tracks (and then)
A train started comin' (and then, and then...!)

[Chorus]

clarice

BobS. I have no idea, but the President pointedly noted that the sentence far exceeded the recommendation of the Dept of Probation which was probation.

BobS

Clarice: Thank you. I wish that point had been out there more.

chch16

I hope Libby continues with his appeal as well. It will give Fitz a further victory over brief writer impaired Larry Robbins, and then the money should be donated to charity. Libby inherited millions, from his daddy an investment banker.

Harriet hasn't dipped a penny when she hits Neimans on Wisconsin Avenueand other stores in the D.C. area and her shopping marathons continue.

She now though has to coordinate the guys she is sleeping with and Scootie still at home.

lurker9876
This was done to secure that Libby the pussy who can't do the jail time won't flip and snitch on Cheney and Bush.

There is nothing for Libby to flip and snitch on Cheney and Bush.

Show us proof, chch.

The only thing to snitch would be that WH leaked Plame's identity. And Armitage was the original leaker so there is nothing there.

Rick Ballard

Dear Orson,

Many people find that it is an aid to a positive response to correctly spell the name of the person to whom correspondence is addressed.

yrs etc,

RB

Looking_For_a_Way_out

Wow,

I don't see as much jubilation as I expected over here, mabye I should read more of the thread. Or, maybe everybody is suddenly realizing that the President's new position. Now, I won't pretend to be some sort of "legal scholar" like other posters on this site, but I'd say it looks like George W. Bush took an action to help a criminal get out of punishment for crimes committed to benefit George W. Bush. Does that constitute Obstruction of Justice or participation in a conspiracy? I don't know the answer to that, but I do know Impeachment is a political process so the level of proof is not so high.

Why no Pardon? Commuting the sentence is kind of a half assed approach, but I guess it is GWB so half assed is about as much as you could ask.

"Based on Bush's comment about Libby's sentence being excessive, wonder if this sounds like Walton is being put on notice?"

Geez Lurker you're my favorite. Exactly what can Bush do to Walton? I mean if he put Walton on "notice" is he making "threats to harm a federal judge"? Well in for an inch in for a mile right???

"I must point out even the claimed offense pales before the Burger offense which resulted in far less than this now commuted sentence does."

Clarice you're also one of my favorites. You have absolutely no basis to make the above statement. Objection sustained, strike that comment from the record, jury you are to disregard the last statement from the witness.

chch16

I'd be very happy if Fred Thompson grew a set of balls and actually entered the race. It's going to be fun to bash a man who can't come up with any positions statements except that "Ah lahk to lobby my friends for big bucks for Phillip Morris. Cigarettes are my Health Plan and the Republican answer to coronary artery ischemia and COPD."

Cecil Turner

Not a principled decision. It's now apparent Fitz's charter had nothing to do with the leak of Valerie Plame's identity, and was entirely devoted to grilling Libby and Rove over inconsistencies in their 3-month-old recollections of who-told-whom-what-when. Had Plame figured prominently in the Administration pushback over the false Wilson allegations, this might've been appropriate. As they didn't, it wasn't. This is a clearly flawed prosecution, which relied upon political prejudice to sway a jury into convicting a man for having a poor memory of inconsequential events three months on.

The commutation does nothing for Libby's destroyed reputation and career. In fact, it adds insult to injury by admitting the President accepts Libby's guilt. And for him to cite the Executive order to cooperate--one of the main factors in the miscarriage of justice--is particularly disappointing. Color me unimpressed.

chch16

Rick Ballard, M.D. a noted burn and trauma specialist is also Mommy's little speller. What extraordinary diversity and talent.

Rick lent some of his burn trauma expertise for free yesterday.

BarCodeKing

chacha16, I believe the phrase is "sore loser."

But thanks for playing.

Carol_Herman

Up at DRUDGE:

Bush commuted the sentence, saying it was too harsh.

This leaves in place the paper chase up the wall of justice; to the supreme's. Who do conflicting and clashing wallpaper jobs.

What's it gonna take to get better judges and school teachers? Ya know, we can't out-source this crap ta China. Or India. We're stuck with watching how affirmative action came along and just ruined it for our middle-class.

One big Yip for Bush? Why? This is considered "spectacular?" Or just long overdue?

Hope putin's not stuffing his luggage with barbara's antiques and treasures, ya know? I wonder if they'll weigh putin's luggage going out the door? And, if they weighed it coming in?

Rick Ballard

Careful BarCodeKing - Senator Lamont is gonna open an investigation on ya for that.

chch16

In courtrooms I've seen we don't call winning on appeal and securing a conviction a loss. Libby is a traitor who should have served life in prison and the consequences that are now carried out in countries the Bush administration supports--stoning.

Like a good Soprano, Bush covered his own lying ass and Cheney's lying ass by commuting Scootie the Pussy's jail sentence.

If Scootie works on the back of a garbage truck, it's a job way too good for him.

The lying Republicans will be rejected at the pools in 2008 by an even bigger margin. Their candidates, except for the Independent Bloomberg are born to lose and will make it easy for the Democrats and the RNC now realizes that.

chch16

What an intellectual. I'd sure go to Drudge to get news that's fair and balanced. I guess the Fox Noise airhead blonds--the Murdoch hookers will be dancin' tonite.

manys

IOKIYAR

PeterUK.

May I take this opportunity to congratulate the commenters from the left for the fair minded and sportsmanlike way in which they have greeted this act of decency by President George W.Bush?

No? Ok!

HA HA HA HA HA Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha ha.....

chch16

Maybe Putin has poisoned all the Bush's at one time. I wonder if they were using a taster.

topsecretk9

Libby was found guilty by a jury of his "peers"

aaaaaaand....that same jury said they'd like to see him pardoned.

cboldt
President Bush will pardon Scooter Libby, thereby keeping the issue a political matter and keeping the focus on his administration. The pipe dream of adhering to the principle that the pursuit of justice requires truthful testimony will again, as it was in the Clinton case, be subverted and overpowered by the force of overt political partisanship.

Other than substituting commutation for pardon, I think this was accurate.

On reading President Bush's statement, my prediction is shown to be positively false. President Bush reiterated the need for honest testimony, and he did not in any way intimate that Libby was not guilty as charged.

My hat's off to President Bush. He's managed to stifle my cynicism, and he's implemented a sentence that strikes me as appropriate, given the absence of harm to national security.

BobS

I see the Kos Kids are here and using Rule 1:

When no facts are available, call people names.

topsecretk9

---the Murdoch hookers will be dancin' tonite.--

defamation turned to sour grapes

chch16

When a criminal has a chance to cover his ass he takes it.

Bush and Cheney are becoming unravelled fast and they don't mind pissing on their party's chances in 2008. Why should they care. They'll both be back at their ranches with speaking fees from the faithful who are drowning their sorrows on rubber chickens after their collosal defeat in 2008.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

The pardon will come the day Bush leaves office, which is fine. Libby, an acknowledged foreign policy, national security expert will go to work for one of the Washington think tanks and we all benefit because an extraordinarily bright man with tons of experience will be working for us. We, as America, can not afford to throw away this kind of expertise.

lurker9876

There are no lying on Bush's part.

There are no lying on Cheney's part.

Scooter will get an excellent job. And write a book.

Looking for a way out, no, this is not a hidden threat but rather an increased public awareness that Walton issued a far more excessive sentence. It's not going to look good for Walton at all.

BobS

Talk about shrill

lurker9876

chch16

3 Facts

Fact 1: Libby Convicted.

Fact 2: Libby's chances on appeal unanimously rejected as no close question and no substantial chance.

Fact 3: Republicans can't run anyone with a chance in 2008.

BobS

I can hear the cutting and pasting of talking points now.

lurker9876
Bush and Cheney are becoming unravelled fast and they don't mind pissing on their party's chances in 2008. Why should they care. They'll both be back at their ranches with speaking fees from the faithful who are drowning their sorrows on rubber chickens after their collosal defeat in 2008.

No, they are not. They are getting stronger.

RichatUF

BarCodeKing-

In a just world, it would be Joe and Valerie Wilson who had been trying to avoid going to prison.

In a just world they would have defected to France

RichatUF

BobS

there.....

manys

Sara: There are plenty of people with the experience but without the ethics problems.

lurker9876

chch, who cares about your own made-up facts.

Carol_Herman

Oh, Lurker, Bush ain't running in '08. And, his brother, Jeb, is nowhere near entering any presidential race. Not now. Not in the near future. And, not for off, either, in wonderland.

It's possible Dubya knows he's got stinking ratings? It's also possible that he's clueless.

What will be interesting? Especially now that McCain's little go-cart flopped over in the race? Is how will the contendahs for the GOP nomination deal with Bush's very lackluster performance?

The prize, I think, will be there, as soon as any one of a number of candidates, even without reading the tea leaves; makes hay of the opportunities no one in the bush household ever learned to trust. What do I mean? On more than one occasion, Bush blew it. Other people, all of life, have been picking up the pieces.

And, if I had to guess? Since I'm gonna guess, anyhow? Both Fred Thompson and Rudy Guiliani have advantages.

Fred's path is through the Internet; so I wouldn't be surprised to see a linky showing up over at InstaPundit. To draw attention to the "very intersting." That you could make of this stuff.

Hey, putz! DRUDGE just provides the LINK. What an ignoramous you are ch-ch'impanzee.

BobS

Now, now chichi, Dear you really must remember to take your Xanax

topsecretk9

--Bush and Cheney are becoming unravelled fast and they don't mind pissing on their party's chances in 2008. --

Since liberals loooovvvve polls and since Bush and Cheney aren't on the 2008 ticket...

Following Immigration Debate, Number of Republicans in USA Increases

It’s interesting to note that the number of Republicans increased during the same month that the President’s Job Approval fell to another all-time low.

That Karl Rove- magnificent bastard.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Bush and Cheney are becoming unravelled fast and they don't mind pissing on their party's chances in 2008.

Oh bullsh!t! President Bush just went a long way to bringing HIS party faithful back to the fold and the loony moonbats on the left were not going to vote for anyone in HIS party anyway, so who gives a flying fig what they or you think.

lurker9876
On reading President Bush's statement, my prediction is shown to be positively false. President Bush reiterated the need for honest testimony, and he did not in any way intimate that Libby was not guilty as charged.

My hat's off to President Bush. He's managed to stifle my cynicism, and he's implemented a sentence that strikes me as appropriate, given the absence of harm to national security.

I wonder that while Libby now has a choice to continue with his appeals process, Bush expects Libby to continue with the appeals process to exonerate him. Two years of probation gives Libby time at home while going through the appeals process.

I have a feeling that many conservatives will want Libby to continue with the appeals process to prove everyone wrong and that the appointment of Fitz was unconstitutional.

BobS

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, topsecret k 9! That can't be true.

PeterUK.

chchicken,
You really must pause for a moment to wipe the spittle off your monitor,we know you are upset Dear,go out and buy yourself some new shoes and a bag,hang about in bars,cheer yourself up.

RichatUF

David Shuster-

"do no time, but pay the fine"

I can't do it, I can't watch it

RichatUF

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Sara: There are plenty of people with the experience but without the ethics problems.

Oh? Can you name, say, five (my definition of the least amount that counts as "plenty") living former Chiefs of Staff who have as much inside knowledge of the world of national security as Scooter Libby, who have the particular expertise that Libby has regarding present terrorism threats? Sorry, they don't grow on trees, you know. And no, you can not put Sandy Berger on your list.

chch16

It is certainly possible for Fitzgerald to take the evidence back to a grand jury and indict Rove and Cheney as he should.

topsecretk9

Warden at Ace's had the best response to a pissed off liberal co-worker

"Libby is no Marc Rich, about time the president stepped in"

PeterUK.

"Joy bells are ringing,
The songs birds are singing,
And ev'ryone's happy and gay.
Dull days are over,
We'll soon be in clover,
So pack all your troubles away.

The sun has got his hat on
Hip-hip-hip-hooray!
The sun has got his hat on,
Scooter's out to stay."

lurker9876
Oh, Lurker, Bush ain't running in '08. And, his brother, Jeb, is nowhere near entering any presidential race. Not now. Not in the near future. And, not for off, either, in wonderland.

I know that but they are not unraveling. They're still strong as ever.

Good thing that they do not operate according to the polls. Good thing that Bush operates based on principle, ethics, integrity, and morals. And all very good principle, ethics, integrity, and morals. Good thing that Bush can rise above those vicious attacks from the Democrats and mainstream media and use his aces in a very smart manner.

Today's decision should help Bush's polls, though.

lurker9876
It is certainly possible for Fitzgerald to take the evidence back to a grand jury and indict Rove and Cheney as he should.

Fitz already said that there would be no charges after Libby's convictions (which should be overturned by appeals or pardon) and that his investigation is on hold. He also already told Karl Rove that he has no plans to charge Rove. It is very doubtful that Fitz will charge Rove and Cheney. Why? Because Fitz found nothing and will find nothing.

chch16

Sara I see you and Libby on the back of a garbage truck.

Slowly but surely the Bush scum are being swept out. The DOJ has one to two key people resigning per week now. In 17 months no Republican scum will be in the White House and many members of the House and Senate will be removed.

Let's pull for an indictment of Rove and Cheney.

This country is entitled to a purging of all these Katrina M.O. oriented people who can't govern, have this country at an exponentially greater terrorist rist secondary to their icompetence, and have gutted the rights of its citizens with illegal wiretapping, no fly lists with no recourse replete with dead people, babies, and 99% on it completely innocent. The incompetent in DOJ who administered it resigned promptly after 60 minutes made a fool out of her.

topsecretk9

And now the 500 million dollar question --- Leopold's sealed vs. sealed sources 1 year anniversary - did he fib about that too?

chch16

Criminal Bush wanted the legal system to work as long as it gave him the result he wanted.

When it did not, he took his little dick out and pissed on it.

chch16

Mark Rich should not have been pardoned. It was done probably because the daughter was dying from cancer, rather than the money the mother gave. Clinton can make that much now in a couple hours with a speech.

chch16

But Mark Rich was not a traitor to this country and Libby is.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

Sara I see you and Libby on the back of a garbage truck.

As long as you don't see me on a milk carton!

chch16

It's time now to indict Rove and Cheney co-traitors to this country.

Section9

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!!!


Finally, justice for the Scooter! No pardon, but a commutation of sentance.

Leahy should be about ready to blow a gasket.

Anyhoo, anyone want the over and under on when the House Dhimmis will start to agitate for the "Impeach Darth" proceedings? They can't seem to get anything else done.

Rudy is going to run, and win, against the Do Nothing Democrats in 2008. Book it.

By the way: Italians, off!

chch16

Milk is too expensive thanks to Bushonomics.

lurker9876

Nope. No indictment of Rove and Cheney at all.

It's all part of the norm that half of the administration staff begin to leave for the private industry. This was already anticipated so nothing new.

There are no illegal wiretappings.

Civil liberties and freedom unaffected.

The incompetent who administered resigned for an entirely different reason.

Katrina? We got rid of Blanco! Nagel got re-elected, though.

What fly lists with no recourse replete with dead people, babies and 99% on it completely innocent? You mean those 3 planes that hit WTC and Pentagon? Bush had nothing to do with it.

lurker9876

Milk is expensive thanks to Carter. Nothing to do with Bushoconomics.

TexasIsHeaven

Dear God in Heaven:

Clarice - PeterUK - Rick - anyone

Is there no way to rid this place of the awful persons that waste time and space here?

Are they the same awful ones that have always been here but are now going by different names?

Every time I visit I find them here - like a loathsome disease that cannot be eradicated.

You all should really be able to find some way to get rid of them.

Glad - very glad to see that Bush have done right by Scooter.

PeterUK.

Fascinating watching someone have a mental breakdown on line,is there an internet psychiatrist handy?

lurker9876

PUK, How about Dr. Santy? She'll be a good one to slap chch in place!!

topsecretk9

--riminal Bush wanted the legal system to work as long as it gave him the result he wanted.

When it did not, he took his little dick out and pissed on it.--

Libby is NO Marc Rich - he needed to step up.

-- Warden

lurker9876

I wonder if chch is sockpuppety-ing sferris.

RichatUF

Milk is too expensive thanks to Bushonomics

I thought it was price controls

Dairy Mooo!!!

TexasIsHeaven

"Bush HAS done right by Scooter"

Hope Chuckie Schumer and Senator Depends are blowing a gasket right now.

chch16

Fitzgerald went easy on Rove and Cheney and as commentary on a lot of liberal and conservative blogs has shown, the media ID'd many witnesses Fitz never interviewed. Fitz gave this administration a huge break.

King Bush has no symnpathy for criminal defendants unless they are members of his administration.

Bush didn't take the leak of classified info seriously and lied about saying he would.

Armitage's leak was the result of Libby and Cheney requesting the information from the State Department and one of many leaks.

It sends an awful message to those hundreds of people sentenced for perjury and obstruction in the 94 district courts today and awaiting sentencing for these convictions.

There will be no defense fund for them, and King Bush will not stop their jail time.

Bush did not fire the leaker Rove and the leaker Cheney.

PeterUK.

Lurker,Good idea.

chch16

What kind of a weak post is How about lol Dr. Santy whatever that is.

See how many people you can recruit to "slap chch in place."

I see a lot of paranoids who post at the level of a 5 year old who can't marshall their own facts on the issues.

Enlightened

I'm torn about Bush's statement. His implication is that absolutely Scooter lied. Does he just assume Scooter lied because a jury of his definite-not-peers convicted him? Or did Scooter tell the boss he lied? I'm 100% convinced Scooter did not calculatedly lie. And there is no way in hell anything Scooter did compromised Valerie Plame.

I hope Scooter does write a book. And I hope he screws over everyone that threw him under the bus.

As for Larry Johnson's sock puppet meltdown- truly hilarious.

chch16

Schumer is busy architecting a second defeat for your Congress and your Senate and your White House. More Republicans will be fired by the people who give them an 80% disapproval rating currently in every poll.

Pal2Pal (Sara)

What kind of a weak post is How about lol Dr. Santy whatever that is.

See, I told you chch NEVER follows links so that he can get him/herself educated with actual facts. A link that I posted directly to him.

chch is a mind-controlled moonbat who has been preprogrammed to come in with inane comments and long, tedious posts detailing his various flights of fancy, but no facts.

chch16

If Scootie writes a book, it will go in the sale bin at the bookstores faster than Arie Airhead Fleisher's has.

As per the deal with Bush and Cheney, it will not tell the truth about Libby's covering for the architects of all the leaks, Bush and Cheney.

As to throwing under the bus, the disbarred lawyer Libby isn't in much of a position to throw a wad of gum under the bus.

lurker9876

Bush is not a king or King.

Rove did not leak.

Cheney did not leak.

Bush has no reason to fire Rove.

Bush has no reason to fire Cheney.

Bush did take the leak of classified information seriously.

But there was no leak of classified information at all.

Armitage's leak was NOT the result of Libby and Cheney requesting the data from the State Department.

Armitage was the original leaker.

Bob Woodward confirmed that Armitage leaked long before Libby began talking to the press.

You are sending messages filled with fallacies and inaccuracies, very misleading to everyone.

The real perjurers and obstructionists deserve prison time and no funds.

chch16

Why didn't King Bush announce this commute in the Rose Garden and in the middle of a holiday? Obviously because King Bush was prostituting to his base and was ashamed for the country to see him.

Charlie (Colorado)

Tom, somewhere in that last 150 vapidly rage-flecked comments, I really think chch crossed the line.

lurker9876

Scooter writes a book, it will do far better than other books did.

What deal? All Bush did was to make a decision and sign the papers. There is no Libby covering for the architects of all the leaks by Bush and Cheney. None of them leaked.

Armitage leaked but Plame's identity was not classified.

Rick Ballard

"Is there no way to rid this place of the awful persons that waste time and space here?

I suggested that Mr. Maguire consider thread wardens like Winds of Change uses but I'm not sure that they would work here. That and WoC can be stultifyingly dull at times.

Now, if Mr. Maguire would give H & R, Peter and me the keys when there's a flare up, I believe we could provide some idiot protection that would have a bit of humor.

He just has to take the key to the liquor cabinet off the ring before giving them to H & R. Unless he's very, very, very rich, of course.

lurker9876

Bush announced it because of today's decision. Nothing more. Nothing less.

And don't call Bush a king or King. He is our president of the United States of America. Nothing more. Nothing less.

PeterUK.

Enlightened,
"And there is no way in hell anything Scooter did compromised Valerie Plame."

There was nothing to compromise,Plame was a supernumerary,nobody has brought forth any evidence regarding any damage by the Wilson's clever career move.

manys

Let's hear it for sentencing guidelines.

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