After The Fall

The latest Hillarity about planted questions has me wondering what will happen to Hillary after she manages to lose the aura of inevitability.  Can either Barack Hussein Il Jong Obama or the Breck Girl win the hearts and minds of a Dem majority and seize the nomination?

Not to be a Gloomy Guss but here is my gloomy guess - in a brawling street fight Hillary will easily re-emerge as the toughest Dem out there and the press will be thrilled to unveil a whole new narrative about the Comeback Queen whose true depths of character and resolve have finally been revealed by the grueling primary process blah, blah, kill me now, and quickly.

Now, I have not fully given in to despair - the press would also be thrilled to tell us how Obama took the high road to victory, thereby teaching us Great Things about the wisdom of the American people and the press that guides them.  Edwards backers, however, feel free to despair - no one wants to hear a story about a triumphant middle-aged white opportunist.

Comments

[Other Tom]

I'm not in despair (at least not any more than I have been all along) because I long ago booked a Hillary victory. And (to the surprise even of me) her Tradesports nomination contract is holding at 71 cents, where it was before the debate, before the planted question, and etc.

[Clarice]

Where was Tradesports on Dean before the Iowa caucus?

[Rick Ballard]

It was at 69.5% for a Republican hold on the Senate in '06.

I think TM's assessment of the probability of her being nominated is correct but the early primary decision isn't a plus for a gargoyle - the longer you look the uglier it gets.

[TruthIsHere]

FACT: Bush is a self-admitted WAR CRIMINAL!
FACT: Bush is engaged in ILLEGAL SPYING on the AMERICAN PEOPLE!
FACT: Bush has rounded up THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of INNOCENT AMERICANS and IMPRISONED them in SECRET CIA PRISONS overseas!
FACT: Bush LIED! People DIED!!!
FACT: Bush RIGGED the 2004 ELECTION with the help of DIEBOLD, HILLARY CLINTON and AL GORE
FACT: The 2008 ELECTION is a SHAM!!! Our next PRESIDENT has ALREADY BEEN SELECTED by the MEGAMULTICORPORATIONS who RUN our SHAM GOVERNMENT!
FACT: If the TRUE WILL of the AMERICAN PEOPLE had been expressed in a TRULY FREE 2004 election, our PRESIDENT would be DAVID COBB!!!!

CONCLUSION: IMPEACH NOW!!! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!

[David Cobb]

I invented the Cobb salad.

[centralcal]

Moonbats. Netroots. Gotta love 'em. When you take away their use of ALL CAPS or their profanity, there is only drool and spittle remaining.

[windansea]

blah, blah, kill me now, and quickly.

my sentiments exactly

I invented the Cobb salad.

thread winner

[Jane]

OT,

You were in the paper today. Let me know if you want the link.

Cobb - it's a good salad.

Truthishere - we don't care. We have all been brainwashed by the great news coming out of Iraq. How do you bear up in light of that?

I'm not sure there is an alternative to Hillary - but then, when I remember the alternative to Howard Dean, I feel buoyed, knowing that democrats will always shoot themselves in the foot.

[Rick Ballard]

Second planted question story.

Are her visits to restrooms scripted?

[Not Rickety]

It is unknown how far the scripting of her life goes, but the stance question should be investigated.

Nevermind - I think I just made myself sick.

[anduril]

Were Larry Craig's?

[reliapundit]

i predict.... hillary loses iowa and lime dean her campaign collapses.

and we get a brokered convention which nominates gore and obama. or richardson.

[K T Cat]

FACT: I CANNOT FIGURE OUT WHERE THE CAPS LOCK KEY IS. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME? MY GIRLFRIEND JUST DUMPED ME BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT I WAS SHOUTING AT HER IN AN EMAIL. LAST WEEK MY BOSS TOLD ME I WAS ON THIN ICE AT WORK BECAUSE OF THIS. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, HELP!

:-)

[M. Simon]

I invented Simon Says, Simple Simon, and Simon. Plus Simon and Simon.

Do I get a prize?

[Bill in AZ]

strewth - you forgot the Walmart detention and re-education centers

[Jane]

What if the hokey pokey is really what it's all about?

[Me Myself]

If Hillary is so tough, why does she need to script all her apperances? I read a story yesterday where she and Obama don't hold press conferences and don't speak to their beat reporters on a daily basis as it used to be. She has been in the public areana since 1991 and she still can't risk an unscripted public encounter.
That is not the sign of a tough or a smart woman.
She is what her and Bill always have been, phony cowards.

[Mucking Foonbat]

FACT: Bush stole my BIKE!
FACT: Bush does not even do his own LAUNDRY!
FACT: Bush did NOT invite me to THANKSGIVING DINNER at the WHITE HOUSE even though my TAXES helped pay for it!
FACT: Bush hides my KEYS every MORNING just to make me LATE!
FACT: Bush eats KITTENS! And PUPPIES! And GUINEA PIGS! And FLUFFY BUNNIES!
FACT: If the AMERICAN PEOPLE would just IMPEACH BUSH then CANDY will RAIN DOWN from the SKY! C'mon guys, FREE CANDY!!!!

CONCLUSION: AAAUUUGGGGGH! MY HAIR IS ON FIRE!!! GOTTA RUN!!!!!

[section9]

HUMA ABEDIN.

There. I said it.

Discuss.

[Wryter's Bloch]

The caps lock key is somewhere beneath the word "Caps Lock" on the keyboard.

Good luck.

[MikeS]

Do you mean Truthishere wasn't a parody????

[The Guy Who Yelled 'Free Bird! before Lynyrd Skynyrd Played Freebird]

Free Bird!

(not that I'm living in the past or anything.)

[Robbins Mitchell]

Call me crazy, but I am of the opinion that it isn't a coincidence that the prime anagram for 'Hillary Rodham Clinton' is 'Damn Chilly Iron Harlot'....that much about her IS inevitable

[Robbins Mitchell]

Call me crazy, but I am of the opinion that it isn't a coincidence that the prime anagram for 'Hillary Rodham Clinton' is 'Damn Chilly Iron Harlot'....that much about her IS inevitable

[Robbins Mitchell]

Call me crazy, but I am of the opinion that it isn't a coincidence that the prime anagram for 'Hillary Rodham Clinton' is 'Damn Chilly Iron Harlot'....that much about her IS inevitable

[Robbins Mitchell]

Call me crazy, but I am of the opinion that it isn't a coincidence that the prime anagram for 'Hillary Rodham Clinton' is 'Damn Chilly Iron Harlot'....that much about her IS inevitable

[Robbins Mitchell]

Call me crazy, but I am of the opinion that it isn't a coincidence that the prime anagram for 'Hillary Rodham Clinton' is 'Damn Chilly Iron Harlot'....that much about her IS inevitable

[Haickmes]

Ly nyrd, Sky nyrd. Free bird. NPR doesn't own the satellite, but acts like they do. Ly Sky can only mean eye sky time eye, ly.

Immpeach now, I can't until she's in office. Hilly contacts are future trades. HUMA(N) ABEDI( ). Skittles rain from the sky nyrd, not corn cobbs with butter and salt. Hokey pokey man.

Assessments of probability are futures trades, those are made in the past. Anyho, Plame's been spying since she was 14, like for the CIA. So, was she in that movie and get to use all the time and everything.

Blah, blah, blah. Russians really say this alot and explain that Bob, the man, blah blah blahed alot and he's, like, holy now. Nathan Hale was a spy and had only one life to give and did. All hale the ham nation.

[Hes]

I meant contracts, like in futures, not contracts like in lesbians working for the UN Human Rights and Paul o 'Serg' I Pinhero (yes, it's called pinning the Pay Ronnies).

Let's do the hokey pokey, man.

All hale hilly.

[Clarice]

Raw Meat!

The NYT does an election analysis based on the MRI's of a focus group.
MRAIN

And we have a year more of this to go............

[barometer08]

Why would anyone vote for the only booty Bill doesn't like?

She's just Rudy in a dress. Oh wait, Rudy has his own. Well, they both want the war, are both pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage.

Can we get a real candidate, please?

[needlines]

Semel

World leader expecially in the field of needle braiding machines.

He got fired at yahoo, but I guess it was like 'Vanity Fair.'

[Ann]

Sorry for the long post but this is very interesting:

A post at politico.com says:

reading the other blog posts and comments on this topic, RKA made a great comment. there was another extremely suspicious incident involving clinton's camp and possible audience plants. a few days after hillary's disasterous debate performance in philly-- mainly over the way she parsed on the drivers license for illegal immigrants question-- i read a story where she was at an event in iowa talking about the issue and two or three people in the audience stood up to say they had been hit by illegal immigrant drivers. it seemed odd at the time, but now it's downright suspicious. here's a link to the story on cnn's ticker: ------------------------ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/04/drivers-hit-by-illegal-immigrants-speak-to-clinton/ DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) ? At least two people spoke up in front of Hillary Clinton on Saturday in support of driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, an issue Clinton said relates to a larger problem "we have to solve." The senator from New York had just finished speaking to a group of Polk County, Iowa, field staff in Des Moines and was getting ready to leave the room when Clinton supporter Lee Jolliffe started yelling over the crowd noise. "There are two of us here," Jolliffe said, "who have been hit by those unlicensed drivers. It's not a privilege, it?s a protection." Jolliffe was pointing out that drivers who can have licenses are more likely to have insurance. "Thank you, thank you, thank you," Clinton responded. "I appreciate you raising that because, you know, the federal government has failed. The federal government has failed, and states are trying to figure out what to do." She continued, "But two people right in this room have been hit, have been hit by people who are here and undocumented." That prompted one man to shout, "More than two!" "More than two," Clinton replied. "So, you know, at some point we have to solve this problem because we're seeing all sorts of consequences. So thank you for being a witness to that. Thank you." Jolliffe later told CNN she wanted to give Clinton an opportunity to defend herself on the issue, one that created some heat at Tuesday night's debate. -------------------------- anyone care to follow up with clinton supporter lee jolliffe to see if she was "encouraged" (read: coached) beforehand by someone from clinton's staff?

Posted By: theprofessional | November 10, 2007 at 06:56 PM

Another plant?

[Matt]

There was a time I loathed the comments that people post, but then I realized I should welcome them. Why? Just think, they are not on our highways driving (and killing) people, being rude in stores, smoking while filling their cars with gas, yelling during their children's sporting events and the list goes on. We can feel safer when these nut cases are in their homes away from educated people.....

[Jack is Back!]

Matt:

When email first became "office" popular, we called these folks "keyboard cowards". Stil applies in a lot of cases. By the way, I love Cobb Salad!

[Rick Ballard]

Vote Jmax

Jessica leads by a head in the stretch but it's a mile and a sixteenth race with another filly right beside her. The crowd is coming to their feet...

A few more clicks will carry her first over the line.

[Sue]

My gawd. I don't see any trackbacks. How did they find us? I am starting to think we should have some kind of sanity test before allowing people to vote.

[donald]

Please, somone tell me how the Federal Government has failed to address the problem of illegall drivers licenses. I realize the horror of not closing down our borders. But licenses?

[TruthIsHere]

FACT: Large MEGAMULTICORPORATIONS hide SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES in the backgrounds of ALL WEB PAGES on the ITNERNET!
FACT: These IMAGES trick YOUR MIND into a kind of SLEEP to keep YOU from SEEING THE TRUTH!
FACT: By selectively EMPHASIZING certain WORDS in a MESSAGE, this CONDITIONING can BE OVERCOME!
FACT: You ETHUGLICIAN STOOGES are SO FAR GONE that I have to OVEREMPHASIZE MY WORDS to GET THROUGH TO YOUR TINY BRAINS!
FACT: BUSH is RIGGING the ELECTION on behalf of HILLARY CLINTON so that the CHAIN of CORPORATE MISRULE will continue UNBROKEN.
FACT: HILLARY is a WHOLY-OWNED subsidiary of the MULTIMEGACORPORATE MASTERS! She has been RAISED FROM BIRTH to do their BIDDING!
FACT: Only the GREEN PARTY is free from DOMINATION by CORPORATE STOOGES!!!

TRUTH: VOTE GREEN and IMPEACH BUSH!!!! NOW!!! BEFoRE ITS TOo LATE!!!!!

[Jane]

FACT: THE HOKEY POKEY IS REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!

[anduril]

Good read:

Oh man, Hillary Clinton's got guy trouble

Michael Goodwin in the NY Daily News

[Frank G]

FACT: you're a complete moron. Find the Lithium. Take it

[Clarice]

Goodwin's piece IS right on and politico is right--surely her shills were flakking for her again.

[Porchlight]

OT - Google honors Veterans Day. I believe this is a first since their inception (they have yet to honor Memorial Day). I'm honestly amazed.

Happy Veterans Day, all!

[windansea]

Do I get a prize?

nope, Cobb salad was funnier

[Other Tom]

Jane--thanks; I'd love to see the link. I did see a follow-up piece the guy wrote last week, but maybe yesterday's was something new.

Concerning the lust to impeach, I thought it was just tried for Cheney, and the Dems voted not to do it. (Somebody compiled a list of the 81 Profiles In Courage in the Dem caucus who first voted in favor, then switched their votes when it appeared the thing might actually pass.)

[Clarice]

Chalabi was wrongfully tagged with Curveball by the CIA (anonymously, of course) as they were backing an ineffectual rival of his--Here he is:Mr. Fix It. Mr Fix It

Had we not followed DoS's pro-consul idea and done what DoD wanted turn the keys of civil administration over to him and other Iraqi leaders--we'd have avoided a couple of years of violence and chaos.

[MikeS]

I think Truthishere is a hoax. I don't believe anyone 'thinks' like he writes.

[SunnyDay]

Do you mean Truthishere wasn't a parody????
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What?? No. Way. That was one seriously serious post.

[centralcal]

SunnyDay: That was one seriously serious post.

LOL. And, that is why it is so hard to take it seriously.