Occidental Values cuts through the fog created by Mitt Romney and emphasizes that George Romney had a long and distinguished record of supporting Martin Luther King and civil rights.
However, I can help with this:
...just using google I have found three books, here, here, and here that state that the two did march together (and that's not counting David Broder's book, written four decades ago which would be number four!)
Although he later notes the possibility that:
These historians and reporters were citing each other on a mistaken fact as to the July 23, 1963 march.
Two of the books in question cite a July 23, 1963 date; the third does not offer a date. However, per this timeline or the NY Times archives, the Detroit march was on *June* 23, 1963. I think we are looking at an echoed error.
Occidental Values emphasizes this, as will I:
[Romney] marched in solidarity with King in immediate response to Selma—the most defining Civil Rights episode of the era.
Here is the Times archive and blurb:
Romney Leads a Protest
March 10, 1965,
Wednesday Page 1, 297 wordsThousands of Negroes and whites demonstrated in major cities yesterday to show their sympathy with Negroes whose voter registration march in Selma, Ala., was broken up by the Alabama police Sunday.
Obviously, a march in solidarity with King won't satisfy the literalists who want a march physically with King. But further muddying the waters - two witnesses recall something that couldn't have happened; this is from Mike Allen of The Politico:
Witnesses recall Romney-MLK march
Shirley Basore, 72, says she was sitting in the hairdresser’s chair in wealthy Grosse Pointe, Mich., back in 1963 when a rumpus started and she discovered that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and her governor, George Romney, were marching for civil rights — right past the window.
With the cape still around her neck, Basore went outside and joined the parade.
“They were hand in hand,” recalled Basore, a former high-school English teacher. “They led the march. We all swung our hands, and they held their hands up above everybody else’s.”
She remembered the late governor as “extremely handsome.”
Until this week, that was just a vivid memory for a sweet retiree who now lives in Pompano Beach, Fla....
Another witness, Ashby Richardson, 64, of Massachusetts gave the campaign a similar account.
“I’m just appalled that the news picks this stuff up and say it didn’t happen,” Richardson, now a data-collection consultant, said by phone. “The press is being disingenuous in terms of reporting what actually happened. I remember it vividly. I was only 15 or 20 feet from where both of them were.”
Puzzling. Former Governor Swainson was at the Detroit rally as Romney's stand-in, so someone could remember Martin Luther King and "the governor" appearing together in Detroit and be roughly correct. But Grosse Point? Well, former Governor Williams appeared at a speech in Grosse Point with King in 1968. But so far, no one has found the historical record that places Romney and King together at a march.
MORE: Eric Kleefeld, writing at Talking Points Memo, leaves me at sea:
It's looking like Mitt Romney might have been judged too quickly on the Martin Luther King business. Two witnesses have now come forward to The Politico, insisting that they saw the late Gov. George Romney (R-MI) make a surprise appearance alongside King in 1963.
The campaign has also posted a collection of citations — including a contemporary account from the Detroit Free Press — attesting that it happened.
Huh? First of all, that looks like the very same press release Jim Geraghty ran last Thursday.
And neither press release has a smoking gun press account putting Romney and King in a march; the relevant Detroit Free press cite seems to be this:
- Detroit Free Press: "With Gov. Romney a surprise arrival and marching in the front row, more than 500 Negroes and whites staged a peaceful antidiscrimination parade up Grosse Pointe's Kercheval Avenue Saturday. ...
That is the surprise appearance in Grosse Pointe by Romney, but King was not there, nor does the Detroit Free Press clip say he was.

A CIA Contractor Christmas
Day One. Partridge in a pear tree: During the night-shift at the NSA, Booz Allen contractors suddenly have their online Christmas shopping interrupted when Booz Allen proprietary counterterrorist data-mining algorithms note an unusual spike in internet chatter of “persons of interest” using the term “partridge in a pear tree.” Their NSA Contracting Officer’s Technical Rep is alerted.
Day Two. Two turtle doves. At the NSA, SAIC contractors discover a correlation between “partridge in a pear tree” and “two turtle doves.” The NSA notifies the CIA. CIA analysts who are new to the job due to high Agency turnover do not recognize the turtle-dove/partridge-in-a-pear-tree pattern, but speculate that the combination of phrases indicates that a terrorist plan may have gone operational. The White House is briefed.
Day Three. Three French Hens. Sources on the ground in Paris are unable to corroborate indications of French involvement. Officers in the National Clandestine Service suspect the French hens are a false-flag and secretly hope that the Russians are back in the game. Due to strong political pressure from the White House, CIA analysts concede that the Iranian involvement cannot be ruled out.
CIA interrogators at a black site in Burkina Faso send a cable to Headquarters requesting permission to gut slap an al Qaeda detainee who may hold valuable information.
Day Four. Four Calling Birds. At the behest of the Administration, AT&T, MCI, Sprint and Verizon all hand over their calling data to third-party data warehousing companies that do not face the same legal restrictions as the telcos, creating a rendition program of sorts for data. The data warehousers frantically sift through calls.
CIA interrogators at the African black site are frustrated when Headquarters requests more details about potential information that could be acquired from the detainee if he is slapped. They curse the lawyers and compose a response. A senior contractor overseeing facilities management at the site quips that they should suggest the detainee may volunteer information about five golden rings, but he never thinks the kids running the interrogation would not get the joke. The 26 year-old case officer in charge of the interrogation cables Headquarters that the detainee likely holds information about five golden rings.
Day Five. Five Golden Rings. New NSA intercepts discover “persons of interest” discussing “Five Golden Rings.” With this new development, CIA analysts suspect terrorists are plotting to use five dirty bombs to radiate large areas of US metropolitan areas.
The Deputy Director of National Clandestine Service is excited that one of the black site detainee may know about the golden rings. Over the objections of his Assistant General Counsel, the Deputy Director approves the slap.
Day Six. Six Geese-A-Laying. A blogger who monitors al Qaeda internet sites and chat rooms contacts the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to alert them to a suspicious discussion among al Qaeda sympathizers about "six geese-a-laying." The ODNI passes the intel along to the CIA and NSA and as word of the sites spread among Intelligence Community members, the sites are slammed with new visitors from overt beltway bandit IPs in northern Virginia and Anne Arundel county in Maryland. Suspicious al Qaeda webmasters shut them down.
Meanwhile at the black site, a CIA interrogator trained in enhanced techniques, slaps the al Qaeda detainee. A CACI green badger interpreter with no formal training in interpretation misinterprets the terrorist’s mumblings as "seven swamis."
The interrogators cable Headquarters with the raw intel and request permission not only to attention shake the detainee, but to apply sleep deprivation techniques, justifying the request with their suspicious they might receive additional information about possible Indian involvement, which may actually turn out to be Iranian since both words start with “I”, end with “n”, and have between six and seven letters.
Day Seven. Seven Swans-A-Swimming. NSA contractors Raytheon, Booz Allen and SAIC have all picked up chatter about seven swans a-swimming. SAIC analysts at the National Counterterrorism Center rack up billable hours trying to reconcile this with CIA intel concerning the seven swamis. Raytheon analysts at Defense Intelligence insist that the seven swans-a-swimming indicates that seaplanes are bringing the dirty bombs into the country. With strong pressure from corporate and the DoD which has been pushing for funding for a satellite-based seaplane early warning system proposed by Raytheon, Raytheon green badgers at the ODNI push hard for the seaplane analysis and win out. It is included in the President’s Daily Brief.
At the Pentagon, with the support of DIA’s General Clapper, the Air Force claims it should be the lead. The Navy argues that since the swans are swimming and not flying, clearly this requirement falls under their command’s area of responsibility. The Marines stand at the ready, prepared to toast and roast, then eat the swans, whether in the air, land or sea.
All the while, CIA case officers at the black site stare at the detainee, waiting on a response to their cable. Junior officers are afraid if they don’t put the detainee to bed soon, they may be accused of torture and face possible legal actions. Just to be on the safe side, they offer a can of Red Bull to the detainee. The Office of Medical Services on-site physician takes the detainee's blood pressure.
Day Eight. Eight Maids-A-Milking. The Department of Homeland Security alerts TSA agents to be on the watch for breastfeeding mothers who may have terrorist involvement. It issues alerts to local authorities.
With an attack on the Homeland seemingly imminent, a Fusion Center in Sacramento is used to circumvent various federal privacy laws. In a piecemeal version of Total Information Awareness, federal, local and state databases are fused with private marketing databases. Contractors search through billions of records from phone and credit card and internet search companies to find breastfeeding behavioral patterns suggestive of terrorist involvement. They come up with an additional 226,351 persons of interest in the Golden State. The FBI and local authorities work overtime to investigate all leads. None turn up anything actionable, but the 226,351 persons of interest are added to the TSA’s No-Fly list anyway just as a precaution. As a result to the extra additions to the 600,000 strong list, holiday air travel is snarled.
At the black site, a cable is received approving administration of sleep deprivation. The 26 year-old case officer in charge of the interrogation is relived that his decision to push the envelope with the Red Bull has not endangered his career. He’s secretly proud he’s carrying on the tradition of the Agency’s bad boys and starts calling himself “Captain Bull,” after the legendary, bat-wielding Beirut interrogator “Captain Crunch.”
Day Nine. Nine Ladies Dancing. Fearing more sexual harassment training seminars, analysts throughout the Intelligence Community dismiss intercepts concerning nine ladies dancing and omit all references to them from their reports.
Day Ten. Ten Lords-a-Leaping. The same day that the phrase “ten lords-a-leaping” is correlated with the previous NSA intercepts, ten members of the British House of Lords are killed in Baghdad by a suicide bomber. They were on their way to observe the British pullout in Basra under the protection of a Blackwater PSD team. Blackwater claims that it was not allowed to fire upon a rapidly approaching white Toyota containing the explosives because the vehicle did not fit the suicide bomber profile as outlined by the State Department’s acting head of Diplomatic Security. At a well-attended press conference the Iraqi Minister of Interior charges that Blackwater was negligent and should have known to fire upon the occupants of the suicide vehicle. He holds up a twisted, charred bumper that he claims was from the VBIED. Plastered to it is the damning yellow bumper sticker: How’s My Driving? Call 1-800-Al-QAEDA. International headlines claim Blackwater is responsible for the British Lord’s deaths because its operators should’ve correctly identified the VBIED. Congressman Waxman vows to hold Blackwater accountable for its unforgivable lack of aggression.
Meanwhile at the black site, sleep deprivation is proving to be ineffective and a cable is sent to Headquarters requesting permission to waterboard the detainee.
Day Eleven. Eleven Pipers Piping. Outsourced analysts at the CIA and Department of Energy are convinced that the latest NSA intercept, “eleven pipers piping” is a thinly veiled reference to aluminum tubes. Aluminum tubes could really only be used in a centrifuge enrichment program to develop atomic weapons, they explain. Under pressure from the Vice President’s office, it’s determined that the earlier information from the CIA’s detainee program about seven swamis was misinterpreted. It’s now thought the seven swamis were an indirect reference to seven Pakistani nuclear scientists working with Iranians on nuclear weapons.
The black site interrogators receive permission to waterboard the detainee. Before the procedure begins, the lead interrogator collapses from the stress that he will end up in front of Congressional committees and in court for his actions. The detainee is horrified at the sight of his interrogator crying in a fetal position. He's is convinced something so horrific is about to happen to him, he breaks before they can position the Saran wrap over his mouth to protect him from drowning. The detainee explains that al Qaeda is now working with Iran to help them with their nuclear weapons development program. He confirms every suspicion of his interrogators. The black site cables Langley with confirmation that the seven swamis swimming was actually seven Pakistani nuclear scientists assisting Iranian WMD development.
Day Twelve. Twelve Drummers Drumming. On the twelfth day of Christmas, the world wakes up to New York Times headlines, "U.S. Says Ahmadinejad Intensifies Quest for A-Bomb Parts.” On the same day, twelve top administration officials appear on Sunday morning talk shows.
On Meet the Press Cheney claims that Iran is "trying, through its illicit procurement network, to acquire the equipment he needs to be able to enrich uranium -- specifically, aluminum tubes." Condi Rice appears on CNN's Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer and warns "we don't want the smoking yule log to be a mushroom cloud." Then she recites the evidence in the reverse order in which it was gathered: "Twelve drummers drumming, eleven pipers piping, ten lords a leaping, nine ladies dancing, eight maids a milking, seven swans a swimming, six geese a laying, five golden rings, four calling birds, three French hens, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree.”
Blitzer pauses for a commercial break.
Meanwhile at the black site, the CIA contractors and interrogators are watching CNN via satellite and realize what they’ve just done. The contractors fire off a cable to their corporate headquarters, explaining what’s happened and their indirect role in the folly.
But corporate is ecstatic.
The employees at the black site and everyone even remotely associated with their chain of command in the firm all receive special Christmas bonuses (a reimbursable expense on their contract). Their company stock in their 401(k)s quadruple due to increased business thanks to the war with Iran.
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Happy Holidays, everyone! RJH
Note: I've surprised to see how quickly this is spreading across the internet. I'm happy for people to post it elsewhere, but please give a link back and/or credit it something like: "by R J Hillhouse who writes the national security blog, The Spy Who Billed Me. Her most recent book is Outsourced." Thanks!
http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/the_spy_who_billed_me/
Posted by: SlimGuy | December 22, 2007 at 06:21 AM
If we could just get someone to parse the words of Hillary Clinton, Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, John Kerry, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi...the list is long but the parsing is short.
Sheesh...
Posted by: Sue | December 22, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Note: I've surprised to see how quickly this is spreading across the internet.
Note: Don't worry. I won't need to credit it because I think it is the dumbest thing I've ever read and won't be spreading it. Thanks!
Posted by: Sue | December 22, 2007 at 09:15 AM
Hoohaw, Kean and Hamilton both claim they believe that the CIA made a conscious decision to stonewall their commission.
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 09:45 AM
CIA contractors get:
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=38909&dcn=todaysnews probably because someone like Plame did NSA domestic survellience on domestic political groups, finding her retired CIA pals were actually under investigation. She did a favor for her dad who worked for NSA, Air Force, and called the advisor to the intelligence committee, who was x air force like her dad, and complained. The Whistle blower legislation, NO FEAR, was found to be falted for her because this was an old Ames thing that she investigated under IIPA, blowing hundereds of deep cover non CIA counter intelligence double secret people who couldn't be classified the way they were and so were not, except for their files, which she requested beginning a counter intelligence probe that went on for over ten years.
CIA is not allowed to franchise NSA, but x air force Directors move CIA analysts to DoD, NSA linguists, so that they can't be closed by Congress; Congress tried.
Chatter is not psychizophrenia.
Burkina Fasco is cleared due to the Union federal employee negotiations and the staff member who had another accident, like the other accidents that weren't staff, but common vehicular. Accidents get real hard to believe.
Federal employees get tax breaks, consolidating agencies power over Treasury employment and pension funds.
http://www.house.gov/jct/x-100-07.pdf.
Bill? Spies? All spies are bills.
Posted by: Adusy | December 22, 2007 at 09:54 AM
John Mercurio has a nice round-up of the campaign this year at the National Journal, 12/20/07. He missed King going for Thompson, though, and the latest move of the Tancredo Corps, both blitzkriegs around the Romney Line.
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 10:02 AM
So, Adusy, whattya think of the Old Lady's sandbagging of the suits, today?
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 10:06 AM
Fred to Mitt; "Beam me up, Scotty".
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 10:10 AM
It's a silly controversy, but Mitt seems to be prolonging the agony with his tortured explanations of what "saw" means.
Posted by: Pat Curley | December 22, 2007 at 10:15 AM
"tortured" is the mot juste. Of course, any mind capable of running the world must be tortured. A dog metaphor comes to mind.
Don't you think Bush feels like he's been strapped on for the ride?
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 10:46 AM
If we are talking about things going around the internet, I like this better:
Mike Huckabee, that winsome combination of Mr. Rogers and Lonesome Rhodes, goes pandering:
"Who is your favorite author?" Aleya Deatsch, 7, of West Des Moines asked Mr. Huckabee in one of those posing-like-a-shopping-mall-Santa moments.
Mr. Huckabee paused, then said his favorite author was Dr. Seuss.
In an interview afterward with the news media, Aleya said she was somewhat surprised. She thought the candidate would be reading at a higher level.
"My favorite author is C. S. Lewis," she said.
Posted by: Jane | December 22, 2007 at 10:55 AM
Slim Guy--Putting this as temperately as I can--stop pasting such nonsense at length and taking up our time with it!
Posted by: clarice | December 22, 2007 at 11:23 AM
It's a shame the Romney/MLK story has been reduced to this. It all started because Romney was being charged with racism due to his Mormonism. The truth is, his father went against his church and against the current of the day and supported MLK.
Grosse Pointe is a wealthy city that was/is very segregated, and it shares a border with downtown Detroit. Certainly a march of black people through the streets of Grosse Pointe was shocking and brave of Romney. It didn't take physical courage, but certainly he risked putting off a *lot* of wealthy supporters.
At the time of the march, even the Detroit Auto Unions were racist, with blacks not welcome.
It is such a shame that rather than focus on that, it's become *this*. It's just a way to avoid Romney's critics admitting they were wrong to try to paint his with the brush of prejudice.
Posted by: MayBee | December 22, 2007 at 11:56 AM
I'm not sure what lesson is to be drawn from this episode. Is it example #36,427,526 of press incompetence?
Are we to infer that pandering is an inherited characteristic?
Does Mitt's Memory suffer a defect similiar to that of Bubba when he was recollecting how he learned to read by the light of burning churches? Perhaps, but name a pol without a selective memory.
My recollection of George Romney is that the he was a run of the mill northern liberal with a decent speaking style, totally dedicated to principles which promoted [insert soft liberal cause du jour circa 1957-68] but with a distinct Republican flavor (chewed cardboard comes to mind).
Did he march with King? I'm sure that in his heart he did and I would be amzingly unsurprised if it turns out that his body also went for the walk. Nobody was searching the shadows very intently in those days and LBJ's play for a new plantation was understood by very few.
Where's the beef?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 22, 2007 at 12:02 PM
such a shame that rather than focus on that, it's become *this*
Most people who are not already opposed understand the figurative use of "saw" as in "I saw my family persevere through the hard times". Ultimately it's just fodder for chattering semantic clowns.
Posted by: boris | December 22, 2007 at 12:04 PM
OT, but Uncle Jay explains blogs.
Posted by: Patrick R. Sullivan | December 22, 2007 at 12:07 PM
such a shame that rather than focus on that, it's become *this*
I should add that it is semi-ridiculous to have focused on *that* in the first place. Why anybody needs to talk about the history of mormon racism and Mitt's father's actions is really beyond me.
Posted by: MayBee | December 22, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I must say, going to conservative sites and seeing those obsessed with Mormon doctrine, I wish we didn't need the evangelical vote. I am willing to give due respect until I see some of their ravings.
Posted by: clarice | December 22, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Gov. George Romney And Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Posted by: Sara | December 22, 2007 at 12:50 PM
"Why anybody needs to talk about the history of mormon racism and Mitt's father's actions is really beyond me."
It's just a light warmup, MayBee. Take a look at how the Red Witch has done against the madrassa educated kindergarten crack dealer. Meanwhile, the Huckabubble has busted and Mitt is on the rise.
Just think how much fun we'll have when spring training is finally over.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 22, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Sand bag?
I thought it was just going to be Asia, but, apparently, it is South America too. I think south really means south.
Luther seems popular. Luther is supposed to mean Lucifer.
Posted by: Ausy | December 22, 2007 at 02:13 PM
I think the criticism of his use os the word "saw" is unfair. How come no one raised the issue against Allen Ginsburg:
"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,..."
Jeez--did he really "see" all that?
Posted by: other tom | December 22, 2007 at 02:54 PM
I posted this as a comment yesterday on another blog. This flap reminded me that I have always assumed my Mother marched with MLK. I knew she had marched more than once and that she also traveled to more than one march. I also knew that after MLK was killed, my Mother had some acquaintance and correspondence with Corretta Scott King, so I guess I made the assumption that one of those marches was with MLK. A couple of days ago, I searched through her journals from the sixties and I found this entry:
"Today we marched in solidarity with Dr. King. It was excillerating!"
The march was in Buffalo, NY and timed to coincide with an MLK march in another city along with several other "solidarity" marches around the country.
I still don't have an explanation of why she had an NAACP pin with the word "Charter" on the front. I assumed it designated she was a charter member until I looked it up and discovered the NAACP was founded the year before she was born. Now, I'm thinking it must have been a particular chapter, but I still don't know for sure.
Anyway, I have found that my assumptions were wrong as to details, but not necessarily wrong in my overall impression of my Mom's commitment to the civil rights cause, especially in the 1960s, although as the founder of the first African American Girl Scout troop in her state back in the forties shows her commitment wasn't just a fad of the times.
Posted by: Sara | December 22, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Did Sir Edmund climb Mount Everest in 1947 to look for the Union Label?
Posted by: Ralph L | December 22, 2007 at 03:24 PM
Slim Guy--Putting this as temperately as I can--stop pasting such nonsense at length and taking up our time with it!
Will do...
Posted by: SlimGuy | December 22, 2007 at 03:29 PM
Was Mitt's vision of his dad and MLK seared -- Seared -- in his memory, or was it just Monkey-Warded? Were the protesters Macyd by the police?
Posted by: Ralph L | December 22, 2007 at 03:47 PM
I've always thought that MLK got too much credit. After all, who among us hasn't had a dream? What's the big deal?
Posted by: PaulL | December 22, 2007 at 05:02 PM
I've always thought that MLK got too much credit. After all, who among us hasn't had a dream? What's the big deal?
Welcome to my nightmare...
Posted by: Tom Maguire | December 22, 2007 at 05:13 PM
This should finish off Huckabee:
[quote]
The Cooler has obtained documents that show Mike Huckabee received $378,000 in consulting fees during 2006, while he was still governor of Arkansas.
Most noteworthy, $35,000 came from Novo Nordisk, one of the world's largest embryonic stem cell researchers. It seems that when money is at stake Huckabee may be able to look past his supposedly fervent opposition to this procedure
He also received speaking fees and honoraria from churches while Governor.
It is certainly calls into question whether or not it is appropriate for a Governor to be taking a consulting fee from interest groups, as Huckabee did, when issues surrounding that interest group could come across his desk.[/quote]
http://caucuscooler.blogspot.com/2007_12_16_archive.html
Posted by: clarice | December 22, 2007 at 05:31 PM
Wow Clarice. Now that sounds like a deal breaker to me. Not that I had any deal concerning the Huckster in the first place, but still.
Posted by: Sara | December 22, 2007 at 05:48 PM
Whoa, SG, I thought Hillhouse's effort was splendiferous.
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Posted by: kim | December 22, 2007 at 05:53 PM
Re: Clarice's 5:31 pm post --
I think, sadly, that there are probably some who support Huckabee for religion reasons, that won't be swayed by anything corrupt or questionable that he does. That said, however, I think the unfortunate sobriquet -- "Huckster" -- is one that has been earned and is well deserved.
His arrogance seemingly knows no bounds. Y'know, if Rush Limbaugh would only call HIM, he is sure they can share the love.
Gag.
Posted by: centralcal | December 22, 2007 at 06:28 PM
central--some of the payoff was from a company that has a big stem cell research component.
Posted by: clarice | December 22, 2007 at 06:41 PM
Via My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy:
Recounted and commented upon at Reason online.
Posted by: Sara | December 22, 2007 at 07:12 PM
Clarice: Dan Riehl has a follow-up on what you just posted about on Huckster from the Cooler.
Huckabee Hits New Bump
Posted by: Sara | December 22, 2007 at 07:21 PM
Thnx, Sara
Posted by: clarice | December 22, 2007 at 07:29 PM
Cold Water For The Red Witch
IMO - more exposure could raise the 48% to 53-57% without any effort by opponents. Exposure to the Odious Slattern is closely akin to a virulent outbreak of eczema. Once is more than a sufficiency.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 22, 2007 at 07:43 PM
But is there a sentient being who hasn't already been fully exposed to the odious one? By now you either recognize that she is ill-bred, dishonest trash or you don't.
Posted by: other tom | December 22, 2007 at 08:05 PM
"By now you either recognize that she is ill-bred, dishonest trash or you don't."
True, if you had achieved political sentience by 96-98'. False regarding those who have achieved political sentience since then. The saying that one "never drinks from the same river twice" is extraordinarily applicable to electoral politics.
The electorate of '08 will bear only superficial resemblance to that of '96. Some 25 million have exited this vale of tears while over 32 million have joined the VAP. The Voting Age Population has increased by 10 million in each Presidential election year since 1988 and will not fall below that level of increase until 2012. The VAP will stand above 230 million in '08 and turnout will probably be at around 127 million.
Just think, a whole group of 32 million who haven't had real exposure to the Odious Slattern - can the makers of emesis basins possibly keep up with demand?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 22, 2007 at 08:25 PM
romney screwed the pooch handling this mess. back at the start of the questions he shouldve emphasized that his dad was standing up for civil rights at a time when few other white politicians would.
Posted by: chas | December 23, 2007 at 05:20 PM
"at a time when few other white politicians would."
Untrue. Ike's AG, William P. Rogers, got the first Civil Rights Act since Reconstruction through in 1957 - over strong Southern Democrat opposition. There was a coalition of northern liberals of both parties in favor of the act.
Ike's use of federal troops in Little Rock to enforce B v BoE might be seen by some as "standing up" for civil rights.
There's just a tad of imbalance to the hagiography presented as history concerning Civil Rights. Not quite as bad as making a hero out of a Lt jg who allowed a heavier, slower vessel to cut his PT boat in half but entirely of the same ilk.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | December 23, 2007 at 06:01 PM
The military ended racism in America, and covered for a second favored son.
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Posted by: kim | December 23, 2007 at 06:30 PM
Mr Ballard,
"The saying that one "never drinks from the same river twice" is extraordinarily applicable to electoral politics."
Or "Never drink downstrean of the cattle".
Posted by: Peter England | December 23, 2007 at 07:46 PM
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