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Porchlight

The headline was changed from "rejiggers" to "reshapes" within the last several minutes. Interesting. I wish I'd grabbed a screenshot of the article when I first looked at it after JMH's link. But google "Obama's rout rejiggers" and you'll see all the references to it.

Porchlight

Oops, duh, should have read the post more carefully...

Semanticleo

It ain't exactly 'macaca', is it?

The right-wing schadenfreude is palpable
evidence of the spoiler mentality which
attends to the despair over your lack of
meaningful candidates. But don't think
I am all that thrilled with the choices for dems.

It's about the 'lesser of two weevils'.

Other Tom

Remember the local pol in D.C. who was censured, and forced to apologize, for using that word? Whenever I heard W.F. Buckley use it I had this feeling that he was being just a teensy bit provocative.

Topsecretk9

It ain't exactly 'macaca', is it?

Cleo's got his racist scale out.

Semanticleo


"Cleo's got his racist scale out."


It's more like a ruler....


"What Bush did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary"


FACT SHEET:

Bush Waged Nasty Smear Campaign Against McCain in 2000
Bush Supporters Called McCain “The Fag Candidate.” In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.” Columnist Frank Rich noted that the fliers were distributed “even as Bush subtly reinforced that message by indicating he wouldn’t hire openly gay people for his administration.”

McCain Slurs Included Illegitimate Children, Homosexuality And A Drug-Addict Wife.
Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.”

windansea

relax Cleo

the Clintoons are gonna go down hard and will make macaca look like kindergarten

watching the ashen faced drones last night on CNN report the results was delicious

Semanticleo

"the Clintoons are gonna go down hard"

I am relaxed. I don't have a problem with it.

Other Tom

So Cleo is reduced to citing Frank Rich, who in turn cites unidentified "supporters" of Bush. Whose "supporters" made the last-minute robocalls in SC using Obama's middle name four times in each call?

Remeber Hillary supporter Sidney Blumenthal smearing GHW Bush's WWII combat record during the '92 campaign? (That would be the Sidney Blumenthal who, following his grand jury testimony, stood on the courthouse steps and gave an absolutely fictitious account of the questions he had been asked. Unfortunately for Sid, he had to appear a second time, and the grand jury foreman forcefully rebuked him for his lies.) I forget--did Blumenthal beat his wife?

JM Hanes

Yahoo apparently didn't get the memo, so if anybody wants the screenshot, get it while it's hot.

Speaking of memos, Semanticleo, "schadenfreude" is soooo yesterday's news.

Other Tom

Cleo is not the only leftist dupe who is now realizing how badly he's been fooled by these two vicious, unprincipled crooks. He thus joins the likes of Jim MacDougal, Web Hubbel and a host of others who realized too late that what we Fascist Hyenas have been saying about them was right all along.

Semanticleo

"schadenfreude" is soooo yesterday's news.

S'OK.

I still wear Ray-Ban 'Wayfarers'.

Substance over style.

Semanticleo

I'm curious, OT.

Who's your candidate?

windansea

I am relaxed. I don't have a problem with it.

yes well the macaca smears you are whining abaout are old news

Billary are gonna cook up some nice huevos divorciados con macaca for you

Semanticleo

"Billary are gonna cook up some nice huevos divorciados con macaca for you"

....and that means what, to me?

Jane

Cleo is not the only leftist dupe who is now realizing how badly he's been fooled by these two vicious, unprincipled crooks.

I think seeing those people rendered utterly speechless is the most fun of all. Let's all watch them wonder what else they got wrong.

Perhaps we should make a list.

Rick Ballard

I really think that Mrs. Clinton dislikes blacks more than even Bubba does. Bubba always kept some around as pets and even allowed a couple in his cabinet. I can't think of a single black that could be said to be included in Mrs. Clinton's "inner circle" (that's the one adjacent to the River Cocytus). That might be a small part of her problem at the moment.

Topsecretk9

Rick

A white racist woman is better than a black drug dealer seems to be the Clinton campaign theme.

JM Hanes

Semanticleo:

LOL! You're talking substance over style -- in your Ray-Bans?

Rick:

I don't think the Clintons are racists, and I don't think they like or dislike blacks. They use colors as demographic labels.

Semanticleo

"LOL!" is soooooo today!!

Semanticleo

BTW;

Does ANYONE here want to extol the virtues of their chosen candidate?

Other Tom

Mine's McCain, Cleo. Who's yours?

Do you really need me to extol his virtues?

richard mcenroe

Trust the professional journalists with their layers of editors and fact-finders, to call a spade a spade.

SemanticLeo -- Both Romney and Giuliani brought their polties back to surpluses from enormous deficits. Whattayou got?

richard mcenroe

Trust the professional journalists with their layers of editors and fact-finders, to call a spade a spade.

SemanticLeo -- Both Romney and Giuliani brought their respective polities back to surpluses from enormous deficits. Whattayou got?

richard mcenroe

One of those things is not like the other.

MikeS

Semanticleo,
I agree with you that factually inaccurate attacks are improper by anyone. I wonder if you would agree with me that the candidate bears more responsibility for attacks or attackers that are more directly connected to him or her?.

How's your Marine doing?

Semanticleo

"Mine's McCain, Cleo. Who's yours?"

A bold statement. In 2004 I would have voted for him. Not so sure, now.

Edwards is my choice.

Rick Ballard

JMH,

They're not racists - they dislike people who refuse to stay in their gender/race boxes pretty indiscriminately. They don't even like or dislike tame pets on a gender/race basis. The only quality that they truly admire is a willingness to be and stay duped.

Right now, blacks happen to be on the Clinton's doubleplusungood list but if they start behaving as they're supposed too, the Clinton's will give them a special treat.

Semanticleo

"I wonder if you would agree with me that the candidate bears more responsibility for attacks or attackers that are more directly connected to him or her?."

Mikes

Perhaps more so because they haven't the guts to accept the flak. Also, the hypocrisy of
the surrogate's deflection contaminates any semblance of trust, both public and private.

Zack graduated 1/18 and is home for 10 days leave and 28 days Recruiters Assistance. He's doing great (yes sir, no ma'am, opening doors etc)

Thanks for asking.

Neo

The black community must be happy for Obama and wondering just how taken they had been with "Slick Willy."

When I read Bill's comments relating to Jesse Jackson to Obama, I thought is sounded real bad, but when I saw the video, it didn't seem so bad.

A couple of hours later, I realized that "Slick Willy" had fooled me too !

No wonder he had his "black face" on for so many years, and got away with it.

MikeS

I realized that "Slick Willy" had fooled me too !

The man is not just a liar. He is a Magnificent Liar!

Who among normal men could hope to have the audacity necessary to argue about the meaning of is, or whether fellatio is a sex act, or that a strong economy is actually a recession.

Cecil Turner

Edwards is my choice.

In that case, perhaps ought to avoid discussion of things like "meaningful" or "qualified" as it relates to candidates. (Unless "personal grooming" becomes a measure of merit.)

PeterUK

FACT SHEET: full of sheet facts.

Other Tom

Let's not forget that John Edwards is more responsible than any living human for raising the cost of health care in America. No small achievement, that.

Clarice

Cleo--Edwards served one term in the Senate.
He never ran again because it was obvious the people in his state had severe buyers' remorse.
Even so about half of that term he spent in a failed attempt to become VP.
Now he's running for president on a platform that consists of attacking every major proposal he did vote for in his short intermezzo on Capitol Hill.
If I never doubted your judgment before, I'd have to with your pronouncement that he's your guy.

JM Hanes

I'll go with Russ Feingold on Edwards:

The one that is the most problematic is (John) Edwards, who voted for the Patriot Act, campaigns against it. Voted for No Child Left Behind, campaigns against it. Voted for the China trade deal, campaigns against it. Voted for the Iraq war … He uses my voting record exactly as his platform, even though he had the opposite voting record.

Feingold obviously drew up his list before Edwards started claiming to be the grown-up candidate -- while closing out every primary with the story of "The Woman Who Puts Children to Bed in Their Coats." Apparently, Feingold is not the only Democrat to notice Edward's actual record, because when you look at the exit polls, Edwards is picking up the white, conservative, pro-war segement of the vote.

PeterUK

"The man is not just a liar. He is a Magnificent Liar!"

Not only is he all of that,but he is a pathological liar.

Semanticleo

You folks remember I said 'lesser of two weevils'.

I suspect McCain reflects that image from the other side of the aisle.

JM Hanes

Clarice:

Edwards didn't actually finish out his term, although the amount of time he spent pushing his own political career at the expense of representing his state certainly contributed to discontent at home. One of the few things I still respect him for doing, however, is resigning his seat when he officially announced his run for higher office. McCain touts his support for the war, among other enthusiams, but time and again he was missing in action when that support could really have made a difference in the Senate.

Clarice

Thanks you for the reminder,jmh. I'd forgotten he did the admirable thing and resigned.

JM Hanes

Alas, Semanticleo, short of comparison to Hillary or Huckabee, I'm not convinced McCain is even the lesser weevil.

Prairie Dog

Ok, just as an aside. For the last two-three years, every time a lefty and a righty talked politics in the same forum it soon became so full of bile, it became unreadable. (That's pretty much every comments section in all the blogs I read, and I read them on both sides of the aisle) I have noticed a remarkable and laudable softening in the hate. (I did so enjoy when both sides accused the other of being the more vitriolic.)

Anyway, just sayin'.

Jane

In what time frame PD?

Prairie Dog

Hmm, I'd say just this month. Maybe I should keep my mouth shut, and hope it isn't just a fluke. It might be that Bush and Iraq etc, are no longer the main topics. The candidate races are taking up the slack.

Patrick Tyson

Edwards did not resign his Senate seat.

richard mcenroe

SemanticLeo -- A good friend of mine had to cross three state lines to find an OB-GYN who would handle her pregnancy... because of your candidate's lawsuits.

Thousands of women in this country have had their bellies slit open with steel blades in unnecessary C-sections because of your candidate's lawsuits.

Way to keep the faith, sister.

Sue

Did anyone besides me notice Hillary's southern voice in Tennessee last night? She has more accents than a fisherman's wife has fish.

PeterUK

PD.
I have noticed that as well,put it down to the fact that losing in Iraq is no longer a policy issue for the Democrats.The attack dogs have been called off and the rest of the pack have lost interest.

maryrose

cleo:
Glad to hear the good news about your son Zack.
Politically you and I are polar regions apart. my candidate is Romney but will vote for Mccain if I must.

Jane

I have noticed that as well

I was hoping it was out of realization that the Clintons are not what they thought they were, and as a result they are embarrassed. But I assume they have way too much invested to admit that.

Dan Collins

Well, Tom, AP had this headline up for a bit yesterday: Obama Runs Away with South Carolina Primary.

Seems he's been poaching in

MayBee

cecil's response in another thread was classic.

PeterUK

Jane,
Possibly,but there has been a sea change,all the shroud wavers have dropped the subject of Iraq.Embracing defeat is probably not a good election winner.
History has a way of making view points set in stone look ridiculous

Jane

PUK,

The sad thing is that most of the electorate has no idea there has been a sea change. They will go merrily along until it's time to vote.

JM Hanes

Patrick Tyson:

Wow. I'll have to revisit that whole time frame to figure out why I ended up thinking Edwards had done something admirable. I could have sworn he did more than just announce he wouldn't seek another term, but now I wonder if that's because it seems more obvious that he wouldn't have won reelection in hindsight than it did at the time. Maybe I just respected him for not trying to hang onto to his Senate seat in case he lost his national run and for announcing his retirement early enough to give potential candidates sufficient time for gearing up. Aside having a memory that really sucks, I must have somehow transmuted that head start on the next campaign into an actual early retirement.

In any case, many thanks for the correction, and apologies to those I've led astray!

MayBee

In any case, many thanks for the correction, and apologies to those I've led astray!

Didn't someone on this board tell you that JRE had resigned his office? I'm recalling a comment to that effect a few weeks ago.

Patrick Tyson

JM—

You're welcome.

I checked before I commented because I don't know North Carolina all that well. What I recalled was that there were stories speculating that Edwards might resign so Easley could appoint Bowles to the seat in the run-up to the 2004 elections, but that nothing had come of them.

Best.

JM Hanes

MayBee:

Alas, I suspect you're probably recalling the last time I made that erroneous assertion myself.

Patrick:

Alas x 2, as a resident I should have known better myself. For what it's now worth, I do remember the speculation about Bowles. Perhaps too well! He ran strongly enough against Elizabeth Dole to remain viable for the match up with Burr. I think, maybe, IIRC, YMMV.

JM Hanes

Dan Collins:

Looks like this is just a WOW kind of day. I'm amazed that watermelon hasn't surfaced before now. Well, maybe not amazed exactly.

Ralph L

Edwards had people touting him for VP in 2000, after just over a year in the Senate! Wiki says he made speeches in Iowa that year. I think that turned off more Tarheels than his voting record, certainly this one.

Dole was the one who left the Senate when he'd won the nomination in spring 96. "No where to go but the White House or Home" (in the Watergate, nextdoor to Monica's Mom).

Clarice

I am amazed that my memory about Edwards was right after all. No harm, no foul, jm.
I'm beginning to think the CLintons will complete what they started--the destruction of their party.
(a) Hill is already reminding people she won Michigan*; she's campaigning in Fla against the rules and she's calling for the rules to be changed to prevent the "disenfranchisement of Fla and Mich voters.(* If you recall, when the DNC issued the rule, the other candidates had their names removed from the Michigan ballot. Hill, however, IIRC, said there'd been some difficulty with Michigan election officials and she was unable to remove her name in time.)
This puts here in opposition to Dean and the DNC. Not to speak of Obama and Edwards who stayed out because they played by the rules. Either the DNC enforces its rules or it collapses.
(b)With the Kennedys endorsing Obama, along with a number of prominent Dem officials, there will be great pressure on her super delegates to bolt their promise to support her. And Hill and Bill will not take that lying down.
(c) At this point it's hard to see how if she wins Obama would be asked to or could accept if offered the vp slot.

It looks to me like the party factions are hitting the mattresses.

Ann

What has happened to Howard Dean, Chairman of the DNC?
The latest thing on Howard Dean according to google is August 2007. You would think Russert would want to interview him about all these shenanigans. Right??? NOT!

PeterUK

Obama anointed heir to JFK,,Marquis of Queensberry Rules no biting ,gouging,head buttting or hitting below the belt.

Ann

Not so fast PUK,

It will all be better tomorrow because Hillary has a reason for what happened in S.C. Her beloved husband was "sleeped deprived and so driven by LOVE for her"

From Michelle Malkin:

In the name of love

Why don't you come across the pond and join us in all the fun!

TomB

Ah yes, once again Cleo manages to change the subject.

Anybody remember "rejiggers"???

Other Tom

Oh, how fervently I pray that, if asked, Obama will decline the honor.

None of this would have happened if Howard Dean were alive.

Ann

Other Tom,

LOL does not do justice to my reaction to your comment. You are one of the best. Thanks

narciso

Actually, much of this mess is due to Howard Dean; 'two timing' Florida with
the Nevada and other primaries. Florida
and Michigan followed suit; with the DNC
exacting their penalties. McCain was defeated in S.Carolina; precisely because
he badmouthed Robertson and Falwell, and by extension the religious right; in order to curry favor with the Times; on top of his
constant promotion of McCain/Feingold which
disempowered traditional interest groups over the media (and we know who they favor)
This was in the era before 527s although MoveOn was still active (and refusing to move on? besides their utopian socialist
delusions). McCain was the author of the
benchmarks bill; whose premises have been used to challenge the success of the surge.
The fact that he has Richard Armitage as an an advisor, the first leaker to Novak and company on the Plame manner also counts as
a strike against him. Among his other advisors are Kissinger; whose brilliance is
invariably seen as selling out US allies, and sucking up to foes; Scowcroft charter member of the Saudi lobby, et al. Obama's
much worse with the Iran and Hamas sympathizer Samantha Power, Carter/Clinton
retreads Lake, Fatah/Hamas apologist Robert
Malley, the original creator of our current
mess Zbigniew Brezinski; who brokered the
Saudi Pakistani arms pipeline to their preferred Mujahadeen (Hekmatyar, Sayyaf, Khalis) who would form the core of AQ and the Taliban.the "Iraq" card, The Great game of pipeline politics in the late 90s et al
Clinton has Albright and Berger, enough said.

Ann

Narcisco,

Where did you here that Armitage is an advisor for McCain?

If that is true, it would be BIG news for alot of us.

Ann

**Where did you HEAR**

Dave

It's too bad Time didn't have an editor to say "wait just a cotton-picking minute, we can't use that headline".

Other Tom

Now up at the top of Drudge:

"NYT LEAD MONDAY: Hillary's campaign will try to 'shift former President Bill Clinton back into positive, supportive-spouse role' he played before her loss in Iowa... Developing... "

Think about it for a minute. What matters is what "role" is appropriate. Nothing about whether anything he has said is offensive, or downright disgusting. Just whether his "role" should change.

Where can we get a copy of the script?

MikeS

The script is on YouTube > Clinton 1992

JM Hanes

Howard Dean has been quietly plotting out optimum conditions for Clinton self-destruction from the day he tossed his hat in the ring for the DNC chair. The first thing he did was decentralize control by funneling money to state Democratic party organizations. Put that in your pipe McAuliffe!

Clarice

The Anchoress says the next chapter is Ill Bill, and I think she's right:
"Will we soon have “Too Ill to Campaign Bill” and “Worried About Dear Husband, but Valiantly Campaigning On to Save America Hillary”?

Come on, you know you’re thinking the same thing. An “Ill Bill” can be useful for eleven solid months. Gets him off the trails and back behind the scenes, fades the memory of his atrocious work these past few weeks, keeps Hillary both grim and heroic, and leads the easily-swayed-by-emotion drama queens of the political press - who have lately been making unfaithful noises - back solidly into-the Clinton- camp-where- they freaking-well-belong-and they’d -better-not forget it."

narciso

Well for starters, it's in the Spanish
version of my local paper (On the cover
page, and on the inset page; it may be
in the op ed section but they were too
busing musing about "Obama's a Muslim"
and other weighty issues, to take seriously.
McClatchy (the local publisher) is the Countrywide in the Subprime that is big media; losing money like the Societe Generale trader, head over for. Obama's
support of Islamist neutral advisors; like Malley, Powers, et al; his endorsement of
Islamist sympathizers like Odinga in Kenya,
that's all I really need to know about Obama. Of course, Barry (Latham)'s if we're to go by his mother's surname, Indonesia, has been rocked by turmoil since Soros's craps play in Asian currencies destabilized
the region; giving new life for Gemaa
Islamiya and Abu Sayyaf.This is the region, where for example; 9/11 and the Cole bombings were planned not long after the
Asian financial crisis. One participant at
the summit, Waleed Sufaat sent a letter to
Zacarias Moussaoui; which of course couldn't be examined until after 9/11 because of the stupid FISA procedures. A disturbing thought in the world's largest Muslim country. Former General & current President Yudhono (I'm not making it up) has stabilized the situation somewhat after the resumption in military contacts canceled during the ClintonAdministration's naive and self defeating sanctions on the country. Much like the cutting off of contacts with the Pakistani military that endeared not a few to the Taliban and AQ,
These are apparently the brilliant policies
that Madelyn Albright, said recently; "Not
only does the president not know, he doesn't know that he needs to know" Yes, people, we had people this @#!$#@$@#$% at
the top of the national security system.

JM Hanes

Maddy Albright actually makes Colin Powell look like a competent Secty of State. Shoot, she even makes Zbigniew Brzezinski look smart.

Patrick R. Sullivan

I can hardly wait for Ted Kennedy's reported endorsement of Osama Obama today.

Stan Bricks

I'm not sure what the hold-up is... maybe they have re-thought their stance on how this is going to actually make the company any money. Or perhaps their lawyers pointed out the liability of providing agents a platform to stick their feet in their mouth. Whatever it is, it's hardly something I'd claim as being "Well done".
www.jebshouse.com/wordletter.php?l=R

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