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February 01, 2008

The Incredibly Ann Coulter

Ann Coulter will campaign for Hillary if McCain is the Republican nominee?  Hmm, maybe this is her subtle ploy to chase Dems away from Hillary (Coulter's Choice!) and towards Obama, who will be more easily beaten by McCain on national security issues.

It's a thought.  But I don't have any pushback against the notion that she is a whacked-out embarrassment, either.

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Ann is demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. However when I heard her explanation last night I thought she had some good points. I may vote for Hillary myself if McCain is the anointed nominee this year.

Jinny
(Watching the sky for lightning to strike me dead.)

Ann Coulter is right. She doesn't see any difference between Hillary and McCain. And because she is a conservative, she doesn't want conservatives blamed for the next four years.

Closing Gitmo and refusing to pour water down a terrorist nose (her words by the way) are not what we need.

If you accept her premise about McCain, it makes sense. Even if he'd be better than Hillary, it's important to teach the Republicans a lesson, so that in the long run they'll nominate more conservative candidates. A friend of mine voted for Clinton in '92 because of this--he wanted to punish the Republicans for Bush's tax increase.

On the other hand, Ann puts a lot of weight on the immigration issue, where she virulently disagrees with McCain. I do not, so I don't find her argument for Hillary compelling even if it is logical.

It's the very fact that this skank is a conservative heroine that has put the Republicans in the position they are today.

Anybody looked at McC's record on Second Amendment issues? This alone, without the lies about his liberal record, are enough to get me to vote Dem.

I agree that MCain Is our worst choice based upon his Senate record and his attitude.

However, if you decide to sit out the election, just look at what those qho sat out the last Congessional elections got us.

McCain is the worst of a bad bunch, but even his worst pick for the courts would probably be better (even if marginally) than a Democrats picks.

I also dread to think waht he would do with executive orders. I could just see him ordering all Federal staff to catch public transport, for the good of the planet.

You have only to look at the former country of Britain to realise that letting in the left,ostensibly to punish the right,or by sitting out the election will simply deliver your nation into the hands of the destroyers.Bill Clinton light,AKA Tony Blair broke everything he touched,his party ZanuLabour have decimations our institutions.Gordon Brown,the Igor of the Dark Prince has now sold a thousand years of history down the river.
The left are in a hurry,waterboard all your candidates before voting for them.

I expect she'll change her mind when it actually comes to having to accept Hillary appointing the replacements for Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Paul Stevens.

However, McCain asked for it:

Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards today quit the race for the Democrat presidential nomination, and immediately endorsed Republican frontrunner Sen. John McCain.

“As the presidential field narrows,” Sen. Edwards will reportedly say at an afternoon news conference, “I just didn’t feel there would be room in the race for two white males who favor leniency for illegal aliens, who opposed Bush’s tax cuts for the rich, who fight man-made global warming, who support limits on so-called free speech in political campaigns, who have worked to hinder approval of conservative judicial nominees, and who stand against the Bush administration’s desire to torture terror suspects with waterboarding.”

I think Republicans will vote for John McCain if he runs against Hillary because we don't want " Control us all with Hillary's forced mandated socialist Healthcare" but if Obama is elected as the Democrat frontrunner I think then alot of conservative Republicans just might not vote at all, sad to say. McCain is a poor choice for the republican party and honestly he calls himself a republican but I see him as a independent leaning democrat. I am having a hard time even thinking about voting for this man. I so wish people would look at his record and realize Romney is sooo much of a better choice.

From where I'm sitting it looks like Obamamania will sweep the nation this November and America is headed down a slippery slope to catstrophe. It's already too late.

I don’t always agree with Ann, but she’s absolutely correct on this. Al Qaeda can’t destroy America. They can only launch terrorist attacks that we will always overcome. McCain sought amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. His actions very well could destroy America. The only way America will ever cease being the most powerful nation on Earth and a fighter for personal liberty of every person on the planet is if it is destroyed from the inside. Likewise, the GOP is helping to kill conservatism. They supported Bush’s amnesty plan. Strike one. The are pushing a McCain nomination. Strike two. I predict that this year conservatives will leave the GOP in droves…and possible never come back. It amazes me how AP and others in the media think that conservatives will eventually come around. Many of us won’t. The best way in my opinion to get some attention is to take some drastic measures. If McCain is the nominee, I hope all conservatives will get behind the Dem nominee (but Republicans in Congress). I want the Republican elite who shoved McCain down our throats to have a very rude awakening. They cannot get away with spiting in our faces over and over again. I will laugh when million and millions of conservatives don’t get behind McCain and all the pundits wonder why their plan didn’t work. McCain is not a hero in any way. He is a disgrace to this nation! And before you fake conservatives get all worked up, I served in OIF. I say again, McCain is a disgrace to our nation!

Ann's a nut and has been for awhile. I love the comment about how McCain's not good enough on the 2nd Amendment. So Louie, Hillary's better with her "F" rating than John McCain's "C+"? Brilliant!

I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Republican.

The GOP didn't shove McCain down anyone's throat. It's uninformed, fairly ignorant primary voters who are choosing him. And without a miracle coming about, he's going to be the Republican nominee.

I hate McCain and I considered voting for a Dem in protest, or not voting at all. But I am going to vote for McCain if he gets the nomination, and the reason is, he'll name about 200 federal judges, and 1, 2, 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court Justices. Even if some of his picks are bad, hell, even if HALF of his picks are bad, that's still better than what a Democrat would do, with 100% of the choices being bad.

The courts are too important to waste your vote protesting. Plus, McCain is getting some good people to advise him on judges, like Olson and Estrada. They'll recommend good people to McCain.

"And before you fake conservatives get all worked up, I served in OIF. I say again, McCain is a disgrace to our nation!"

Other than sounding like a sighting of the Port bow,who are you going to vote for.

I think I'll join her. If the country is going to go left, I want a D behind the president's name, not an R.

What concerns me most about McCain is not so much his populist evolution (necessary vanilla
flavor to mollify the voting public), but rather, his prickly demeanor which is fine for a maverick, but dangerous for a Prez.

He seems to miss the quantity of testosterone available to a young Phantom pilot, and seeks to fill the void with bluster. Combining his history of womanizing (which seems to attend the culture of pilots) and the need to exhibit youthful vigor does not bode well for those conjoined (us) to a Prez who tends to think with the 'little' head.

OTOH it is better to stay with the devil you know.

I've always believed that Coulter only had one oar in the water, but now I'm convinced that she has no oars at all and is hopelessly adrift.

She's brilliant.

Many of the McCain-supporting Republicans who would be "taught a lesson" by having Hillary win in November would have long since forgotten it, and indeed many of them would be long dead, while Madame Justice Marian Wright Edelman and Mr. Justice Laurence Tribe were still dispensing their social prescriptions from the bench.

Here are the tates head-to-heads from Fox News:

Clinton 44 - McCain 45
Clinton 50 - Romney 36

Obama 44 - McCain 43
Obama 51 - Romney 33

Clinton 41 - McCain 41 - Bloomberg 6
Clinton 46 - Romney 30 - Bloomberg 8

So, exactly who would be taught exactly what lesson if, instead of McCain, the GOP were to nominate Romney?


McCain was never a Phantom pilot.

Hey, JMH-- remember when you said it was the McCain supporters that were criticizing their fellow voters:

The GOP didn't shove McCain down anyone's throat. It's uninformed, fairly ignorant primary voters who are choosing him.
-Paul L, 6:47pm

Ann: "Hillary lies less than McCain." OUCH!!

Exactly why I would vote for McCain. I know that I will not be happy with him but I will be far less happy with Hillary and Barack.

The GOP didn't shove McCain down anyone's throat. It's uninformed, fairly ignorant primary voters who are choosing him. And without a miracle coming about, he's going to be the Republican nominee.

I hate McCain and I considered voting for a Dem in protest, or not voting at all. But I am going to vote for McCain if he gets the nomination, and the reason is, he'll name about 200 federal judges, and 1, 2, 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court Justices. Even if some of his picks are bad, hell, even if HALF of his picks are bad, that's still better than what a Democrat would do, with 100% of the choices being bad.

The courts are too important to waste your vote protesting. Plus, McCain is getting some good people to advise him on judges, like Olson and Estrada. They'll recommend good people to McCain.


McCains website says he was a phantom pilot.

Is he lying?

http://www.johnmccain.com/STE/Supporter.aspx?GUID=0aa6a95c-168d-44b9-a2bc-b2bae01f6043

i agree with ann.

mccain is a lib.

why should conservatives vote for a lib?

it makes no sense.

if mccain is the nominee then conservatives should stay home or vote for hillary.

at least if hill or obama is potus the GOP in Congress will, fight back.

with mccain in the WH there won't be divided govt. mccain is "mr dem lib" and will sign all major dem-lib legislation and tarnish the GOP for decades.

look at it this way way, tom -

mccain fought harder against rumsfeld than teddy opr feingold or lieberman.

Another reason to vote for McCain over Hillary:

One small reason

Ann cracks me up. She sure has a way of clarifying the issues.

I'm getting really tired of people defining "conservativism" for me. I like Ann Coulter and Rush, but they are out of their lane on this one.

I'm no McCain supporter (he was not even my #3 pick of all possibles), but I take great umbrage at the (implied) suggestion that people vote for socialists rather than someone who is not as conservative as they would like. Or that they don't vote at all in "protest".

This isn't a damned game we're playing here. We are at war, and whatever else is on the political table, our lives are quite literally on the line. Whatever McCain may be, he is not a danger to the country. I can't say that with any confidence regarding the Democrat field.

Ann Coulter is smart enough to know better. Anyway, I thought she was.

McCain's website says that Jack Van Loan was an F-4 Phantom pilot.

McCain was neither a Phantom pilot nor any other kind of fighter pilot. He was an attack pilot, and he was flying an A-4 when he was shot down.

Soylent Red,

I don't think for one minute that Ann would vote for Hillary. As usual, she is trying to wake everyone up and examine their decision in the next couple of crucial days. The media has picked McCain.

We do have another very good choice.

OtherTom spare me the polls. They couldn't get it right overnight in New Hampshire and you want me to believe they will get it right 10 months away? Right now the polls only indicate name recognition and Romney is much less known than the others. Mitt will blow away either Miss Hillary or Obama in debates and his combination of business/government experience is just what the voters will want as the economy slows down due to the pricking of the housing bubble.

The media has picked McCain.

Ann is part of "the media".
The voters that have voted for McCain are not "the media".

McCain is the anti christ

but I'll vote for him over Hillary

I get it--Mitt's $40 mil out of his onw pocket for ads, and his appearance in umpteen debates and nightly news stories still leaves people generally unaware of who he is.

But if the ecomony really goes in the tank, the situation will be just perfect for him, as the electorate clamors for another Republican president, and a Mormon at that. Why didn't I see that?

Soylent, I agree with Ann (the commenter here) that Ann Coulter is being as provocative as possible to scream at the conservative electorate to "wake the hell up!"

The media has "framed" the "narrative" in both parties. But never moreso than on our side -- and it has been relentless. They and their flippin polls have herded us like cattle onto the ramp that leads to the semi truck that takes us to the meat packing plant. Sadly, too many voters only know what they see in 3 minute snippets of nightly news, or newspaper headlines. Yeah, a lot more of us (of all ages) are becoming informed on-line or tuning in to talk radio, but it is still a minority.

McCain - war hero! senator! for the surge! That is the sum total of many voter's true knowledge of McCain.

I should point out, Cleo, that I have no reason to believe that McCain's website is lying when it says that Jack Van Loan was a Phantom pilot--do you?

Nor do I have any reason to believe that you were lying when you said the website claims that McCain was a Phantom pilot. I just think you frequently don't read very well, and any time you make an assertion vollowed by a citation to a URL, one is very well advised to check the URL.

Maybe the conservative electorate is woken up, and a great many of them support McCain. Or maybe there aren't that many conservatives that fit her definition.

Nobody has been sadder that a candidate is out of the picture than I am about Rudy. I've waited over a decade to vote for him for President. I can't believe he didn't get every last Republican and every available independent to vote for him in the primaries.
But they didn't.
I don't think they were stupid, or ignorant, or media-fed. I just think they saw things differently than I do.

Mitt has put up $35 million of money that he earned in the private sector, not $40 million. Perhaps the fact that he is outraising McCain (totally aside from loans) is attributable to the fact that he actually does put his, I repeat, his, money where his mouth is?

Getting name recognition is difficult when you don't spend all your available free time chasing anyone with a microphone.

MayBee: You are right.

"I don't think they were stupid, or ignorant, or media-fed. I just think they saw things differently than I do."

Other Tom, you are right too. McCain is going to win the nomination. Maybe he will also win the Presidency (but, I don't have as much faith in the national polls as you do).

It is the kind of reality you have stated, I guess, that I am railing against. So, I will stop, for now.

But, I want you both to know, that my opinion of John McCain will not change unless HE changes my opinion - not either of you - by his deeds, by his actions. And, I gotta admit, I really don't foresee that happening. People are who they are. Me included. And, we grow and we change and mature, but our basic personality -- the personality our Moms identified early on -- doesn't really change too much.

Perhaps, winning the "prize" McCain has sought for so long will modify his pettiness, his smallness, his ugliness. One can only hope, I guess. But his behavior at the last debate - as the front runner - was not very promising.

I don't know that McCain will win the nomination. Super Tuesday could change everything, and all Mitt needs is for people to vote for him.
I understand how you feel about McCain though. Really I do. I mean, I don't feel that way about McCain, but I feel it about Hillary Clinton.
I just wish people like Ann Coulter, if she truly believes Mitt is a good choice, would spend her time explaining why Mitt is a great choice. Scaring people into voting for him seems a bad strategy.

For the record, I think he'd be a very good president. He just isn't my guy right now.

If I were in the military, I would be a little upset that I risked my life to capture terrorists and jail them in Gitmo, only to see McCain close the place and transfer them to my beloved country; on top of that, see my tax dollars defending them.

I think his temper would put the military in harm's way, too.

Well I for one am looking forward to the Superbowl to take all this election stuff off of my mind.

They are worried in MA that if the Pats win, Super Tuesday will not be well attended since that will be the day we flood the streets in celebration. Not me. I'll be celebrating from my desk, and at the voting booth. If only one vote is cast, you will know that it's mine.

Can she really be so deluded as to think that the "conservatives" haven't woken up? That somehow there are Republicans who don't know that the yakkers are pulling out all the stops for Romney?

I also love the assumptions in the comments that the voters are stupid. That's an elitist and liberal notion, and you should be ashamed of yourself for it. The voters do know the candidates quite well. They've seen right through Mitt Romney.

The best way to view this is that the anti-McCain forces are going through the five states of grief:

1. Denial. Remember all the people claiming that McCain wasn't winning because Mitt had more delegates? One of my commenters actually suggested that McCain's delegates might actually revolt at the convention.

2. Anger. Certainly plenty of that visible.

3. Bargaining. Note Patrick Ruffini and Hugh Hewitt trying to convince the Huckabees and Paulbots to all drop their guys and save Romney.

4. Depression. Starting to set in for many; these are the "I'd rather vote for Hillary" drama queens.

Next Up?

5. Acceptance. It'll probably be another week or two before we start to see this stage.

Let me preface my remarks here by saying that I campaigned for McCain in 2000. I love his patriotism and his service to this country. God Love Him.

But the John McCain I campaigned for has disappointed me on every level since he lost to Bush. His petty character has showed up so many times. He slams Rumsfield every chance he gets in the middle of a war. He panders to the Hispanics and could care less if our border is secure. Well, I could go on but I will spare all of you here. I appreciate that we can discuss this without calling anyone any names. I love JOM for that reason.

Thanks, Ann, you always say the right thing. And, you too, Jane. I only have one vote too. It is going for Romney.

Pat, I'm in the 4th stage. Depression. I fear for my country no matter who "wins" this time.

Jinny

Okay, Pat, but after the 5 stages of grief are over, the person's still dead. I'm having trouble seeing death=McCain nomination as a positive comparison.

Eh, no, it's the other candidates who have "died".

The California ads have started. I am not an ad person. I am not sure how much sway they have, because I read blogs, etc. But, McCain's are pathetic.

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