Keep Hill Alive!

Hillary gets the headline wins - the rout in Ohio can be spun into questions about the Waterwalker's viability in the Midwest and should leave the Hillary crowd panting for Pennsylvania.

In Texas, Hillary wins the popular vote but Obama will probably end up with more delegates by winning the bonus counties and the caucus (Didn't you hate it when you lost at Pacman that way?  I know I did). 

BIGGEST LOSER: Barack, who wanted to end this before the Rezko trial took off; hard to see his media treatment getting better, but if Obama really is as good as the faithful believe, seven weeks in the desert before Pennsylvania will be good for his soul.  Of course, this means seven more weeks of pandering to the Loony Left and providing sound bites for the Right Wing Noise Machine, and seven fewer weeks to re-disguise himself as a centrist, so good luck. 

Can I sum that up?  Pencils poised!  Obama prepares to pander, not pivot prior to Pennsylvania primary.  And his people are POed.

THE OTHER BIG LOSER:  Where's Bill?  With Pennsylvania now looming large, Wild Bill Clinton has probably been dispatched to South Succotash, Idaho.  At an event just outside of town.  With no microphone.  But lots of barbecue!

THE OTHER LOSER:  The eye doctor who was going to do laser surgery on me.  If I have to read for seven weeks about gritty, resilient Hillary's bold effort to rally her supporters I will poke my eyes out, leaving him where?  Like a stopped clock, I WILL be right about this.

Comments

[Jane]

I predict this goes to the convention where Hillary is anointed and a race war breaks out resulting in blacks leaving the party in droves.

[kim]

Oh, please. The conflict with Hillary is supposed to destroy them both, or at least the effectiveness of the Democratic Party this year. A time of trials might just anneal him for the endgame.
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[pagar]

Whatever happens, the prospect of the two of them spending millions of advertising dollars to tell the nation how bad the other one is all good.

[centralcal]

What if the Dem ticket is Clinton-Obama (or vice versa)?

[Appalled Moderate]

centralcal:

I don't see Hillary as vp. Maybe Obama would do it -- though in a Clinton administration, he would be overshadowed by Bill to such an extent that he'd be better off staying in the Senate and establishing himself for camapign 2016.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Yes!

[Sue]

I was watching the students at Ohio this morning on Fox. In a spirited debate with the audience, one guy said basically we go in, take care of business and build it back up, like we did in Europe during WWII. A female student piped up and said you can't compare Iraq to WWII. We went into WWII because there was a holocaust. I want to know why anyone bothers sending their children to college?

[centralcal]

I asked because of a post by Mike Allen at Politico, which begins:

"The morning after reviving her candidacy with two big primary wins, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) hinted Wednesday that she and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) may wind up as ticket mates."

Of course, she goes on to say it would depend on who is the "head" of the ticket, but still it appears to be something they are thinking about.

[PMII]

I really hope that Jane's predication is right.......

[Sue]

I think Obama would be a fool to share the ticket with Hillary. Nothing good comes from being associated with the Clintons.

[kim]

Yeah, Sue, doesn't she know there was a holocaust at the Twin Towers. Oh, wait.
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[kim]

Even as ticketmates, the sum is less than the value of each individual totalled. The ones who despise Hillary and the ones who despise Obama are each susceptible to a moderate McCain. It would be a formidable combination, though. Fortunately, Dean doesn't want it.
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[kim]

What makes anyone think blacks will leave the party in droves? They leave it as individuals, successful ones at that.

Truly empower blacks, and they'll vote the center.
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[centralcal]

Sue, the more I read about Michelle Obama-mamma's hateful rhetoric, the more I think you are right. This would not be a good combination. Imagine the cat fights behind the scenes between her and Hillary!

[kim]

Here's a tale of the South Pacific.

'He was an ugly old aviator. One day he flew over Santo and pointed down at that island wilderness and said, "That's where we'll build our base." And the base was built there, and millions of dollars were spent there, and everyone agrees that Santo was the best base the Navy ever built in the region.'

Now if he'd only get straight on global warming. I've little doubt he will.

H/t J. Mich.
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[clarice]

What I love about this is that the party is going to be strangled by its own stupid rules. My husband said this morning over coffee,"Last night I heard Susan Estrich say the only thing I've ever agreed with her on. She said the party's rules are absolutely idiotic and that she is partly responsible for that."

See--rules are made so everyone knows what is expected of them, people will follow them, and unnecessary disputes will be avoided. People who klike rules are grownups who understand things like the need for boundaries and stability and closure.

But the Dems did what they do whenever they can with the law--tweak it and poke it for momentary partisan advantage and to be "fa-ir", ignoring utterly the very reason for rules.
In the end whoever has the most chutzpah to ignore them and demand a different result than the rules would require ("thugs)) wins.

[Jane]

Sue,

I saw that too - that woman was such a shrew that it caused me to actually look at the TV.

That's the moonbat spin on this war, and it's everywhere.

[kim]

I still distrust McCain, particularly over the Swifties, and lack of executive experience, but if he'll take Romney as Veep, and Thompson as adviser, and Giuliani as AG, I could be enthusiastic about him. There is some talent, there, even if it did just rub off his dad.
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[clarice]

Drop that kid over Pearl Harbor in a cheap parachute, sue.

[GMax]

OK Bob Beckel really has no shame so he can go on and on about a unity ticket but lets think clearly about this.

If we do the math like Hemmer did at one point last evening and gives Hill 55% of all remaining delegates she still does not get past Obama. So the superdelegates must choose. Now if they choose her over him with a lead, he is going to like it? Hate it but accept it? None of the above?

Same scenario, Hill fights claws and scratches to within close but short and the party faithful forget all the favors Bill did for them and vote for Obama and she is going to say OK I tried, let me have that V/P job, it seemed like Gore enjoyed himself.

Or is it more likely that they are going to get to a point where neither wants to be in the same room with the other?

I report you decide. Or you can believe Beckel who made up all kinds of stuff during the 2000 recount.

[MayBee]

Ha! My local news station just reported that many Californians are sad the primary date was moved up, because they lost influence.

[ben]

Ok we can all pat ourselves on the back, we did a good job taking some of the sheen off Barack the Enlightened One, and there is certainly more to be taken off, but we don't want Hillary to run away with it either......according to Obama's campaign, they will now go negative and talk about Hillary's income taxes, the Clinton library skeletons, etc. and we should help out where required.

[kim]

Even if they started out fully clothed, by the time the wrestling is over, neither the Emperor nor the Empress will have a stitch on.
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[clarice]

Beckel is full of it, isn't he?

[boris]

Do we expect Rush to switch crossover support to BHO?

[Sue]

Jane,

It wasn't just she was spinning like a moonbat. It was she believed it. Do they not study history in high school? How do you get to college without at least knowing why we entered into the fray in WWII? Do they not watch movies if they don't read history books? Our schools are definitely broken if this is the quality of education they are producing.

[kim]

Then the media will deck out the winner in brand new finery, and shred McCain's to rags. Sometimes I wonder why we even bother.

But bother we do. Once more, into the breach.
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[kim]

Yeah, broken schooling has created a whole class with a flawed vision. It's no wonder a member of that class comes forth as the agent of change.
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[ben]

Boris
I don't know if Republicans can cross over in PA, but you can bet Rush will suggest voting for Obama if Hillary has a big lead.

[GMax]

K Lo was that you peering over my shoulder in the voting booth?

K-Lo, writing here from Austin, Texas.

Not sure why the networks haven’t picked up on this, but there is definitely a sizable portion of the vote in Texas tonight comprised of Republican voters looking to “game” the Democratic primary. I spoke with numerous friends today, who claim to be Republican, who said they voted for Sen Clinton with the thought that it will prolong the Dem in-fighting and therefore benefit Republicans. I won’t debate the merits of their argument here, but the phenomenon (Republicans voting for Sen Clinton to gain the system) is real and I think material to the results. I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone reporting it and just how large the impact might be. I’m sure it is contributing to the number of voters deciding in the final three days to support Sen. Clinton. Would be curious to hear your contributors comment on this dynamic. The VRWC conspires to save the Clinton campaign?

[anduril]

boris, the problem with flip flopping on the crossover--so to speak--is that I doubt that will do the trick for BHO in PA.

Here's Hewitt's take:

What Has Rush Wrought?
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 8:18 PM
If Hillary ekes out close wins, stays alive, gains the nomination and the White House, will Rush hold the Bible at her Inauguration?

Bill O'Reilly was just on with Brit Hume giving Rush the credit for the Clinton comeback --which is certainly the least expected bit of Campaign 2009 news in this very, very long campaign.

A month ago talk radio was dead. Now it has resurrected Hillary?

[Pofarmer]

It was she believed it. Do they not study history in high school?

If I didn't read books I'd have never had any history classes past the civil war. I don't think High school ever made it to WWI, let alone WWII. I couldn't stomack history at the college level, to much political agenda. I only became a student of history through loving military aircraft and weapons, and that's propelled me to dig deeper, and even at that, I've barely scratched the surface. Most people simply don't have a clue about what happened before they were born. Rush is right on that.

[Sue]

Gmax,

Is K-Lo quoting you? Check out NRO.

[Pofarmer]

A month ago talk radio was dead. Now it has resurrected Hillary?

Kinda takes cognative dissonance to a whole new level.

[Viva Ron Paul]

LOSER: anyone who contributed to Peden or took seriously reports that Ron was in danger of losing his seat.

Viva Ron Paul!!!!!

[paul]

Best Career move for Bill:

governor of Ca. He calls the governor's mansion-western white house.

not a fan of bill, but I hate to see an ex-president floundering in limbo, and good god is he floundering.

[ben]

"Well we now know that is not gonna happen because Senator Clinton was not able to get the kinds of "blow out" wins that Obama got since Super Tuesday. He is still leading her by 600,000 votes in the Popular vote and Pennsylvania is not likely to be the kind of win to erase Obama's lead there. By every METRIC Obama will be ahead when this process is over. Hillary's only hope is that folk like you will continue to try to DISTRACT US FROM THE FACTS. Which is why I have implemented an email chain of the facts to 200 African Americans. They are encouraged to use their own Email distributions to get the word our that the only way for Hillary to get the nomination is to STEAL it through Superdelegates. And if that happens you can expect a BLACKOUT that will not only give McCain the White House but will also result in other down ticket losses." - Kaiser

This post on Matt Cooper's blog (don't ask me what I was doing there, it was a link of some sort) is pretty typical of the Obamagroupie reaction...go ahead and smile John McCain

[kim]

Good point about down-ticket losses. This mud wrestling will splatter all Democrats. More water, more mud, fewer raiments.
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[GMax]

Sue

She cut off my name and printed my e-mail to her. How about that! Maybe she saved me from moonbat mail!

[anduril]

Here's an article by Judy Shelton--It's the Dollar, Stupid!--on a topic that's sure to be important for the next administration. Good news: Phil Gramm and Jack Kemp are advising McCain.

[ben]

Hey Viva Ron Paul
Ron Paul probably survived because Republicans were too busy voting for Hillary. He should send Rush a box of cigars or golf balls. You can too.

[Viva Ron Paul]

Nice try Ben, but the ballot for his congressional district included Hillary for Pres. and Ron Paul for Congress, so you could do both. IOW, your theory is ridiculous.

[kim]

I just think it amuses some of those libertarian Texans to have such a wild and crazy guy representing them. He's got a unique appeal. Look at the energy and money he was able to mobilize. I still see more Paul for President signs than any other Republican's signs.
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[GMax]

Somebody thinks I might have a point! Blind hog , acorn & all that with chips.

Subject: Your Texas Republican on the Rush ploy

Makes a very good point. The undercount in the D primary was almost 700,000 ballots out of 2.86 million. By contrast, the undercount in the R primary was about 164,000 ballots out of 1.38 million.

In the 2004 general election, the dropoff from president to railroad commissioner (the next race on the state ballot) was less than 400,000 out of 7.4 million.

In the 2000 general election – the last time we had president/US Senate at the top of the ballot – the dropoff was only 130,000 out of 6.4 million.

During early voting, I saw polling data that 14% of the voters in this year’s D primary were self-identified Republicans. My guess is that yesterday’s proportion was even greater.

[michaelt]

Viva, Paul was a LOSER as a presidential candidate, right?

[Sue]

Gmax,

If you don't give them explicit permission to use your name, they won't. Good job. You got through the chattering masses.

[Ranger]

Well, the only way I can see a unity ticket is with Hil at the top of it, and there are a couple of problems with that idea.

First, to win at this point Hil has to make a couple of arguements:

1) That is what the 3 a.m. call is all about. If that's true, how can he be ready for be VP, a job where he might have to be president on day one. Hard to argue that he is not ready to be president, but ready to be VP.

2) If #1 isn't enough, then she is going to have to completely destroy him. Paint him as a corrupt and lying pol who is simply unacceptable as president. That makes putting him on the ticket even harder.

After 7 weeks of all that, no way Barack is going to put her in as VP if he wins. All McCain would have to do is just re-run Hils comercials against Barack with the tag line of 'Even his VP doesn't think he should be president.'

[Sue]

Nice try Ben, but the ballot for his congressional district included Hillary for Pres. and Ron Paul for Congress, so you could do both. IOW, your theory is ridiculous.

Nice try Viva, but no it didn't. Not unless you have mixed voting in Paul's district.

[GMax]

I see Viva continues the strong tradition of Paulbots having almost no clue about anything, including simple fundamentals like how a primary works. Why? Cuz he probably didnt vote, he meant to of course but slept in, got a late start and his POS would turn over when he went out so it was back to the couch and a bag of chips.

But does that stop him? No way. The theory is ridiculous he says, why just mark the ballot for Hill for President and Paul for Representative. DUH!

But Viva that a great plan. And if Paul was in the Democrat party, where his votes place him 85% of the time, then you absolutely could do that. But otherwise you cant.

Once you take a Democrat ballot, they stamp your registration card with Democrat. The Republicans wont let you have a ballot then.

Moron.

[ben]

Hey Viva
Don't take yourself so seriously...in fact why don't you promote a Ron Paul/Dennis Kucinich ticket or vice-versa.