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March 10, 2008

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PeterUK

"Come on you idiot political wives. Get angry at your husbands".

Political wives don't get angry,they get alimony.

MayBee

Michelle Obama is angrier at her man than Mrs. Spitzer appears, or Mrs. Clinton appeared to be.

Jeesh.

Other Tom

It's the many, many people this bastard has abused for his own personal advancement who should be shouting the loudest hosannahs today. As a furiously vindictive person, I'd like to see some budding Geraldo track down a few of them for triumphant interviews. (I enjoyed seeing Rep. Peter King on Fox taking a few shots a this shitheel. Let's have much, much more.)

I can't get enough of this...

Neo

Page 26 shows "Interstate Transportation" as the count for paying for "Kristen"'s train ticket, the most expensive ticket Spitzer ever bought in his life.

anduril

Not necessarily OT, but tenuous:

Is your mobile phone spying on you?
Cyber-criminals could know what you did last summer

Why it's not necessarily OT:

“There is currently a bit of an epidemic of mobile phone viruses. And that’s why security companies are now making anti-virus software for mobile devices. But the main problem with phones is not viruses, but spying tools,” Hyppönen said.

“Once a spying tool is installed on a phone it becomes invisible and the user of the phone has no idea that it’s running in the background. It then reports everything you do, every phone call, text, email you make or receive.

Spying device

“If your phone has GPS like the N95 it even reports your location so that the person spying will know precisely what you’re doing, who you’re talking to and exactly where you are on the planet, down to a few square feet.

“Phones are the perfect spying device because we carry these things with us all the time, everywhere we go. We thought that this kind of thing would only be used by the security services like the CIA and MI5 [comment: why not the FBI?], but since we’ve been working on real cases, the majority of the cases are actually abusive or jealous husbands.”

Hyppönen demonstrated to us the ease with which normal people can get hold of spying software which will enable them to spy on anyone who has a mobile phone.

The KGB's State Department Spy

Those who've always wondered how you wind up being called "Strobe" will want to check this out ASAP.

SW

Any CIA agents like Plame working the club?

Appalled Moderate

Hate to interrupt the group Schadenfreude, but when has a pol being caught renting sex had to quit?

I understand the Spitzer hate-a-thon, but, relistically folks, y'all have nothing to say while David Vitter continues to serve in the Senate.

Jane

Because I tend to take these kinds of things to extremes: I WANT TO SEE THIS GUY IN CUFFS! Where is Patrick Fitzgerald when we need him!

Oh yeah - he's prosecuting Obama's best buddy.

MayBee

I understand the Spitzer hate-a-thon, but, relistically folks, y'all have nothing to say while David Vitter continues to serve in the Senate.

Who here is defending David Vitter?

MayBee

It's stuff like what Spitzer did to Greenberg that makes people hate him, AM.

Sara

Weird things are happening not only with cell phones, but with websites. I have/had a site that I never really went public with because I got sidetracked with another project. I hadn't checked it for a few months, when last week I went there to get a link I had used and wanted to use on Pal2Pal. Imagine my shock when I logged on to the site and discovered the entire front page full of porn. Picture after picture of naked men in various states of arousal. I was sick. But worse, when I went to log in as the administrator to get rid of the offending pictures, I was blocked from my own site. All the admin logins had been changed and new passwords assigned. After long consultation with my server company, my only recourse was to delete the entire site since I could not get in it to change it, even from the server side.

Along with hacking my site, they also managed to hack my email on the server and begin using my email address as the sender address for their gay porn. Hundreds of mesages sent under my name.

Neo

Let's not lose perspective on this.

MayBee

And stuff like this:

On December 22, 2005, John C. Whitehead, chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, alleged that Spitzer had threatened him during a telephone call that took place in April 2005. In a letter to the The Wall Street Journal, Whitehead alleged that Spitzer called him regarding a Wall Street Journal opinion piece that he wrote about Spitzer's public comments regarding Maurice R. Greenberg. According to the allegation, Spitzer threatened, "Mr. Whitehead, it's now a war between us and you've fired the first shot. I will be coming after you. You will pay the price. This is only the beginning and you will pay dearly for what you have done. You will wish you had never written that letter.

Now, if you can't enjoy the prostitution-ring participation expose' of such a man, what can you enjoy?

GMax

the speech Spitzer had to cancel today was to a Family Planning Convention. Think having a Democrat in the White House would not have consequences? Look at what Spitzer has been up to in NY:

As payback to his abortion industry supporters, Spitzer had supported “the Reproductive Health & Privacy Protection Act (RHAPP)” under the guise of “codifying Roe v. Wade.” It would:

* Allow non-doctors to perform abortions, including a dentist, a social worker, or a health care practitioner.
* Let girls as young as 12 obtain abortions throughout all 9 months of pregnancy without ever having to tell their parents.
* Force health practitioners or Catholic hospitals to lose their medical licenses if they don’t perform abortions since they would be denying women the “fundamental right” of an abortion.

clarice

Sure,Sara..We are all behind you on that one. *wink*

Thomas Collins

If it's just another politican caught with his feet tapping or his pants down, it is boring. The only thing interesting about this would be if Spitzer tapped state funds for his encounters. I haven't seen any indication of that so far.

ben

"Stupid wife. Stupid wife. Stupid wife.
What is she doing next to him at the news conference?"

Are you calling me stupid?
Hillary Clinton

Nessus

Eliot....you're so frickin homely you need to pay illegal alien hookers!

Funny, wasn't this whore (Spitzer) advocating relaxing immigration enforcement and giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens?

Ha, ha....you bald, ugly LIBERAL hypocrite!

PaulL

****
LEWIS continued that from what she had been told "he" (believed to be a reference to Client-9) "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe - you know - I mean that . . . very basic things. . .
****

Let's have the details.

Rich Berger

Has anybody asked Maurice Greenberg for his reaction yet?

clarice

One site reports there was cheering on the NY Stock exchange floor when the news was announced.

Topsecretk9
In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

---

LEWIS told Client-9 that the "package" did not arrive today. LEWIS asked Client-9 if there was a return address on the envelope, and Client-9 said no. LEWIS asked: "You had QAT[Consulting Group, not Emperor Club ahem] . . .," and Client-9 said: "Yup, same as in the past, no question about it."

So the former AG was knowingly paying a "sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure" FRONT company.

I'd say this has interest.

GMax

Think this story is no big deal and will fade? well maybe, but then again somebody in Hillary's campaign has spent the time to scrub her website of every photo and reference to Spitzer. Pretty good trick for a NY Senator and a NY Governor from the same party, not even considering his endorsement of her. But its as if they have never met.

Topsecretk9

Also - from the compliant it appears that EClub started up 2004, while Elliot was putting their competition out of business.

Appalled Moderate

GMax:

Given the campaign she has run, I don't think much of Sen Clinton's political instincts.

MayBee

So Tops-
Is this QAT: http://www.qatgroup.com/index.html

michaelt

AM, give me a break. If Spitzer had done this years ago, it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

GMax

Somebody has a geiger counter and is detecting high levels of radioactivity that might derail a campaign. If asked about the endorsement, I think she might ask "Elliott who?".

Enlightened

****
LEWIS continued that from what she had been told "he" (believed to be a reference to Client-9) "would ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe - you know - I mean that . . . very basic things. . .
****

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the unhealthy basics he liked were Golden Showers or Ice Cream Cups?

Now that would pretty much end his public career.....oh wait - he already does that to the public - Nevermind.

Neo

The clamor for licenses for "undocumented aliens" made him do it, I suppose.

Poor "Kristen" took the train.

Topsecretk9

MayBee
Suitably flip wonders - seems to be a weird sight, financial/bank help with realy iffy info and Feng Shui Design (complete with buy now button - WTF? how do you buy design before it's designed? - looks like a front way to gather internet payment to me)


Salt in wound alert. Ace connects the dots and make the grim blue dress discovery this tryst took place during Valentines day

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/257471.php

Sara

Weird things are happening not only with cell phones, but with websites. I have/had a site that I never really went public with because I got sidetracked with another project. I hadn't checked it for a few months, when last week I went there to get a link I had used and wanted to use on Pal2Pal. Imagine my shock when I logged on to the site and discovered the entire front page full of porn. Picture after picture of naked men in various states of arousal. I was sick. But worse, when I went to log in as the administrator to get rid of the offending pictures, I was blocked from my own site. All the admin logins had been changed and new passwords assigned. After long consultation with my server company, my only recourse was to delete the entire site since I could not get in it to change it, even from the server side.

Along with hacking my site, they also managed to hack my email on the server and begin using my email address as the sender address for their gay porn. Hundreds of mesages sent under my name.

ben

"I understand the Spitzer hate-a-thon, but, relistically folks, y'all have nothing to say while David Vitter continues to serve in the Senate."

What a B.S. statement that is...so if the Democratic Governor of NY Eliot Spitzer is caught today in some sex ring where HE thinks he needs to resign we can't comment because there was once a Republican politician who was with a hooker?? Give me a break.

PeterUK

It isn't the prostitutes that are the problem it is the pimp,Spitzer is open to blackmail.Hasn't he seen and of the Godfather movies?

Topsecretk9

Maybee

Click on the contact button

http://www.qatgroup.com/ContactUs.html

lets you choose your payment for "service" for paypal

Definitely looks like a cheesy way to collect payment from customers over the internet.

Jane

Okay so lets assume someone (US Attorney?) was investigating the Emperor's prostitution ring and authorized a wiretap on their phone - is that Lewis? The FBI listened and this is the result? Is that how it would have happened?

I love how all the same people who thought Foley should have been tarred and feathered for sending an email think it's just fine for the hypocrite in chief to act hypocritical.

Frog march the hypocrite!

Sara

Apologies for posting twice, how this happens is still a mystery to me.

You gotta love the Anchoress who has this regarding the Spitzer news:

due to what Flip is already calling Shtupergate (better than Putz-gate, I think),
glasater

According to Judge Naplitano(sp?) on Fox--the crime would be wire transferring money from one state to another.

Appalled Moderate

I don't think using a hooker is an offense that should cause someone to resign. I don't mind the public embarassment, though.

Spitzer's attempt to use the machinery of government to slime his political opponents, on the other hand, does merit serious discussion of his removal.

It's a question of what is a personal sin, and what is a crime against Democracy.

Topsecretk9

Maybee

it definitely is - looked up url info - one of the defendants


Registrant:
Cecil Suwal
250 Gorge Road 12L
Cliffside Park, NJ 07010
US

Domain name: QATGROUP.COM

Administrative Contact:
Suwal, Cecil qatconsultinggroup@nj.rr.com
250 Gorge Road 12L
Cliffside Park, NJ 07010
US
+1.8664595698
Technical Contact:
Administrator, Domain hostmaster@homesteadsupport.com
3375 Edison Way
Menlo Park, California 94025-1811
US
+1.8007972958 Fax: +1.6503647329

Sara

Forget Spitzer, the big new today:

Imelda Marcos Acquitted

Did you know she was still alive? Note the trial took 17 years.

GMax

the thought has occurred to me that the Mafia may have had a hand in getting the Feds to pay attention to what the former NY Attorney General was up to. Sort of a payback to Spitzer for all of his activities against them. Funny that they did not see it as a opportunity to control him via blackmail. Maybe they thought he might end up in jail where one of their minions could have a go at him?

Topsecretk9

AP Mod

He went after " sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,”

Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

If he thinks they are bad bad enough to prosecute then it's equally bad he uses their services.

justlooking

He probably thought it wasn't cheating if he paid for it.

I hear that a lot.

Sara

Democrat mantra:

Do as I say, not as I do.

PMII

They're saying he was under cover.....

MayBee

That is so funny, Tops.

When you read stuff like this on his Design Services page:

Interiors can take on many different appearances, but the successful design of your environment, is dependent upon understanding your goals and objectives Beautiful environments begin with listening to your needs and understanding your goals and objectives. They are created using analytical problem solving skills, experience and talent. Price is relative depending on the size / number of units to be consulted upon, though usually ranges from $800 - $1600 for.

ben

"I don't think using a hooker is an offense that should cause someone to resign."

Then why bring up David Vitter? And the point is that obviously there is more here than just paying for a hooker, Spitzer obviously thinks he broke some kind of law or we would have had just the usual "I sinned" speech and no talk of resignatin.

Appalled Moderate

Ben:

What's obvious, other than Spitzer obviously did not want to do a wire transfer?

I use Vittner because everyone here is eagerly anticipating a resignation. I understand that's the word on Fox News, but I don't see any reason to expect it.

GMax

Smoking gun has up a page from the escort service Empoerors Club. You paid big for just an introduction to their escorts, in the thousands and then by the day or by the hour on top of that. Certainly not two bit street walkers...

Jane

It's a question of what is a personal sin, and what is a crime against Democracy.

If you make a habit of committing crimes against democracy watch out if you get caught in a "personal sin".

This is a bad man who has been using the law like his own personal sword. I've no problem with the law taking a few swipes back.

PeterUK

Spitzer and the Gambino family.JFK, Monroe and Sam Giancana.Do you really want that in politics?

GMax

I don't see any reason to expect it.

I already called this shot.( and as I said "Typical"). But the State Senate is in Republican hands so he may get impeached. We would see if the Democrat House wants to stand by their man. 2nd verse of that old song, "its only about sex" is same as the first verse?

clarice

AM, speaking for myself, I have no interest in others' sex lives. OTOH Spitzer was a nasty bully who destroyed many--often innocent-- people for the hell of it--because he could--including other patrons of similar establishments. I am glad he got what was coming to him

Nemesis

PMII

Spitzer just changed his support to Obama

MayBee

He's prosecuted prostitution rings before.

PeterUK

Yes when it is the Democrats the song is always "It's only sex- it's what we do".

Elliott

Salt in wound alert. Ace connects the dots and make the grim blue dress discovery this tryst took place during Valentines day

Ahem. However, having read some of the complaint, Spitzer may have made good his escape before midnight.

Did Emperors Club give numbers to clients in the order in which they signed up or randomly? I think the overriding question is whether Spitzer started partaking while he was still AG.

MayBee

AM, speaking for myself, I have no interest in others' sex lives.

I'm not interested in his personal sex life. However, as governor of a state, he had the opportunity to propose laws making prostitution legal in NY if he thought New Yorkers should be able to avail themselves of prostitutes. I have little patience for people who make and are charged with upholding laws disregarding them.

Otherwise...nasty bully that has prosecuted others for prostitution, etc, I agree.

Jane

Meanwhile BO got mentioned in the Rezko trial today again by the defense:

Ziegelmueller asked Hayden about a 2003 e-mail exchange with Lichtenstein, then the governor's top lawyer, in which Wilhelm made recommendations for the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board.

The name of Barack Obama, the Democratic front-runner for the presidential nomination, also appears in the e-mail as a member of a strategic team reviewing hospital board matters with the governor's staff when he was a state senator. The hospital board was scheduled to be revamped in the summer of 2003.

Obama was then chairman of the Senate Committee on Health & Human Services. Other legislative leaders, including Madigan, were part of that review panel as well, according to the e-mail.

GMax

More Peter King on the Democrat former Attorney General of New York:


"Spitzer himself was very severe going after prostitution rings that had to do with white collar crimes. He was very hard-nosed with his tactics. To leave himself open to blackmail — putting himself and the state in a compromised position like that — it's just awful."

On Spitzer's future:

"He's going to have to resign...At one level, it has to do with his integrity and his personal morality, but I don't even want to go into that. Without even touching on that, he has to resign...I'm one of those people who actually said Clinton should not have been impeached. I try to avoid personal moral issues in politics. But prostitution rings are invariably linked to organized crime. He, as the former attorney general and the current governor, had to know about the link between organized crime and prostitution rings."

Jane

You know the whole "sex is personal" thing rings really hollow to me. The democrats never ever ever ever think sex is personal. It's always front page news when it's a republican.

We all think sex is personal AM. No one cares who someone sleeps with. What we all care about is hypocrisy. And Spitzer is a hypocrite beyond hypocrites. He should be prosecuted as hard and relentlessly as he has prosecuted everyone else.

Enlightened

Well, I would like to know the more lurid details - hey, the guy could be a walking herpes or worse - the public has the right to know what his unsafe practices were....jeez, he might be into hurting women, or child porn, or some equally sleazy "unsafe practice" - there's no reason to protect him.

GMax

Elliott does his best to make Jim McGreevey look good in comparison. While Jim liked boys and not girls as much, that is not the only contrast. At least Jim did not pay for it, and even more telling when the embarassing details became public, he had the decency to resign and spare the public the sorry spectacle of trying to pry damaged goods out of the office.

windansea

While use of prostitutes gets you some lousy newspaper headlines, I do not notice that it actually has ever forced a politician out of office.

(David Vitter anyone?)

Posted by: Appalled Moderate

let's run some clips of Spitzer after some of his prostitution ring prosecutions shall we?

Neo

Now they are saying that Spitzer has gained non-person status on the Hiliary website, as all pictures and references have been scrubbed.

ben

Appalled
"Ben:

What's obvious, other than Spitzer obviously did not want to do a wire transfer?"

What is obvious is you are trying to lump Vitter and Spitzer like somehow that leaves Spitzer off the hook, but it won't wash..

And regarding your cheap shot at Fox the news came from CBS, which I am sure you regard as gospel
(CBS) ― Gov. Eliot Spitzer was not expected to continue as governor and may resign by Monday evening, sources told CBS 2, after it was reported that he was linked to a prostitution ring.

Reliable sources told CBS 2 Political Reporter Marcia Kramer that Lt. Gov. David Paterson could be sworn in as governor as early as 7 p.m. Monday.

Enlightened

And I think the alleged link to organized crime is a very telling indication.

This guy is way sleazier than Vitter and apparently a pretty dangerous man.

clarice

Eliot:"Did Emperors Club give numbers to clients in the order in which they signed up or randomly? I think the overriding question is whether Spitzer started partaking while he was still AG."

I think these numbers were just what the FBI used to avoid naming the johns. The Emperors club began in 2004 per the complaint.

He does not make McGreevey look good in comparison--sheesh--McGreevey used state funds to pay off his purported lover..state funds derived from a federal program for homeland security and the man involved was an alien ineligible to even attend homeland security briefings.


Mike Huggins

Dollars to donuts that we'll soon be seeing "Kristen's" side of the story in the tabs real soon.

MayBee

Jane-
So Obama was the chairman of the Senate Committee on Health & Human Services while his wife worked as an administrator at the University of Chicago Hospitals?

Jane

I with you enlightened. I want to know what $5500 buys.

Enlightened

"naming the johns" - Out
"naming the Spitzer's" - In

clarice

Here's the Oprah angle--what he'll use when the song and dance is over.
His dad was an ambitious guy who pushed him into this public service stuff when all he wanted was to major in poetry or something and live in a slar heated house in Taos. Patronixing expensive prostitutes in what was obviously a gang operation was his cry for help--a momentary bit of self-destructive behavior --

clarice

**sOlar heated....patroniZing****

Jane

Big shock eh Maybee?

MayBee

I'm just re-reading the NYT story.
OMG! Elliot used a real friend's (George Fox) name with the prostitution ring.

What a slime Elliot is.

Sara

Spitzer is the "man who would restore luster to Albany" so for this reason, not the sex, he is an A#1 hypocrite and deserves every recrimination that can be heaped on his sorry a$$.

Besides, this was not a lonely man succumbing to a moment of weakness or horniness picking up a hooker. This took some arranging. A massively high dollar amount, the request of a special girl to be sent to him in DC from NY, and included interstate wire transfers.

Joe

Biblical Quote--- Joseph V111:7--- And the stone cast by he who is NOT without sin shall not strike the his intended target, but will turn in mid air and return to the thrower with the force of an enraged ass and verily I say to you, STRIKE HIM SQUARELY IN THE BALLS.

Enlightened

Hmmm...I also find it rather alarming that he was all over "human trafficking for forced sex and/or labor"......something scares me about that - not to mention he proposed the DL's for illegals....the dots are getting easier to follow....I think he is a very bad man disguised as Johnny Law.

Jane

I think we should refer to the slime as Spitz, since we have our own, very beloved Elliott who should not be confused.

arrowhead

It's an interesting reminder on the eve of the Mississippi primary of the Clinton White House scandals and what might be at risk with ole Bill back in residence.

MayBee

Some of the background on one of Spitzer's prostitution prosecutions, Big Apple Tourism:

Equality Now’s campaign initially urged the Queens District Attorney to take action against Big Apple Oriental Tours. Despite ample evidence showing that the company was promoting prostitution contrary to NY Penal Law Section 230.25 and protests by members of Equality Now¹s Women’s Action Network from around the world, it was only after Equality Now brought the issue to the attention of New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer in 2002, with support from Gloria Steinem, Rep. Carolyn Maloney and the New York Women's Agenda,....

Enlightened

In comparison - yes Vitter had sex, with a prostitutes 5-9 years ago or so. His morals quite certainly were corrupted. But he is not sinister - at least he doesn't come across that way to me.
Spitzer on the other hand seems pretty scary to me.

Sara

Via Dan Riehl:

Still, credit where credit is due, at least he wasn't hanging out in Parkway rest stops like NY Gov. McGreevey. What is this, Northeast Dem Governor of big states syndrome? I hope Fast Eddie Rendell of PA has the good sense to stay home at night.

As a law enforcement official, Spitzer is said to have carried a big stick. Sure looks like it might have been the case from here! heh!

LOL

Topsecretk9

OMG! Elliot used a real friend's (George Fox) name with the prostitution ring.

Ayecarumba

GMax

The joke among Wall street traders about the Emperors’ Club scandal is that Spitzer the Emperor had no clothes!

Enlightened

Well, I guess it would look pretty bad/worse if any of the prostitutes were illegally in the country. And received any "favors" in return for "unsafe basics"....

Sara

Ed Morrissey:

A walk down Spitzer Memory Lane

Sara

The joke among Wall street traders about the Emperors’ Club scandal is that Spitzer the Emperor had no clothes!

GMAX, GMTA, I just blog posted nearly the same idea without the Wall Street reference.

GMax

Apparently the website for the Emperors Club ( now taken down ) indicated the gift certificates available on request. So for that hard to buy for man on your list...

royf

"the request of a special girl to be sent to him in DC from NY"

I don't know about these laws but it seems that I remember a law that made it a felony to transport a woman across a state line for prostitution. Is there such a law?

hit and run

I really didn't think I would have anything to add on this thing.

But I did.

clarice

Yes.

clarice

royf--Mann Act.

clarice

HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enlightened

Hey - Here is a link to a Temeka Rachelle Lewis - I tried to open it - it is an adult video - so I stopped there (I'm at work)

Maybe someone can send it to Ace???? I just wonder it it is the same person?

I know she wasn't the "one" in Feb but she was in the mix...

http://journals.aol.com/yakrifedko/temeka-rachelle-lewis/

Topsecretk9

Clarice

I'm kinda wondering about that QAT website. They are clearly offering services (like incorporating in Delaware and such) that they aren't actually providing as a cover - so aren't there some bigger questions.

One of the top of my head is they are service that the John's could write off? Even office Feng Shui design.

I mean this adds a illegal component to Spitzer the prosecuting crusader.

Sara

Okay, we now have the definitive word on Spitz via LGF:

Here’s a Kos Kid explaining that Eliot Spitzer can’t possibly be a hypocrite ... because he’s a Democrat, and nobody expects Democrats to have moral standards: Daily Kos: Elliot Spitzer Caught Soliciting Prostitutes.
Sara

Wow, just looked at the Wiki entry for the Mann Act, which I didn't realize was still on the books. They list the following who have been prosecuted under the act:

* Chuck Berry
* Charlie Chaplin
* Rex Ingram
* Jack Johnson
* William I. Thomas
* Frank Lloyd Wright
* Charles Manson

But if the Mann Act were invoked, would it apply to the customer or the provider?

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