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clarice

Must be grat fun to be a producer on one of the MSNBC news shows--very creative. Just call your lefty friends--or take their calls--and megaphone whatever carp they give you. Well, the ratings won't go up. The trick is to hang on to that tiny bit of the population which likes their news made up. (Must schedule big MSNBC viewer mud wrestle with the viewers of 60 Minutes).

Tom Maguire

Good point. They are in the same box as the NHL ownwers - eliminating the fights *might* expand the fan base, but it would cost them some of their current fans, so they do nothing.

sashal

is this the story of the same importance as the AG lies? Or torture memos?
I don't think that Olbermann should waste time on the fake controversy about McHenry words

Jane

Ahhhh the AG lies, and double ahhhhh the tortue memos. Olbermann has much bigger mendacities to push.

Jane

sheesh "torture" - now my r is missing.

SteveMG

is this the story of the same importance as the AG lies? Or torture memos?

Whenever Olbermann's mendacities and tendentious journalism are noted, the excuse by his apologists is always, "What about Bush's lies?! Cheney's a Nazi!!!"

Mr. Olbermann has regularly called the Bush Administration a fascist regime, has repeatedly called for Bush and Cheney's impeachment and removal from office and has called the Republican Party the greatest terrorist group in America.

For some folks, apparently it's never enough.

MayBee

is this the story of the same importance as the AG lies?

I also love the way his apologists use his ginned-up controversies to judge importance of other controversies.

Jane

I'm sure she will be willing to link to all those lies.

Topsecretk9

This one is a beauty though. I mean Think Progress has burned it's cult member 2ce big-time in like 2 weeks and Hamsher is creating transcripts to reflect her unhealthy obsessive hate of Joe Libermann to which a few bloggers got burned.

It's all pretty funny that they're resorting to "I know I am but what are you?"

Topsecretk9

Narciso said yesterday that Oblermann retracted something - I know he's had to a few times now, did he retract something big recently?

GMax

Think lefties are regretting that Townhouse memo getting out awhile back? Cuz now when it circulates a lie within Nanoseconds, it obvious how it happened. Its not a bug its a feature!

Rick Ballard

Tops,

Do you think it's reflexive reaction to the level of tarnish showing up on BHO? I'm trying to remember if something similiar happened when the reality of the results of the great Nedathon of '06 began sinking in. Aside from Lieberman in blackface.

If it's already 'Panic in Prog Park' in April, what's August gonna be like with "BHO down 26" in the headlines?

SteveMG

Apparently, Hillary gets her research staff from ex-MSNBC workers (another one).

Or is it the other way around?

'Though to be fair, all campaigns like to repeat stories like this all the time. Too good to check out.

I know, I know, being fair to Sen. Clinton? Like she'd reciprocate if this had been Obama or McCain?

Mike G in Corvallis

If it's already 'Panic in Prog Park' in April, what's August gonna be like with "BHO down 26" in the headlines?

If Obama doesn't do well, then the media will point out -- over and over again -- that this is absolute proof that America is irredeemably racist. After all, what other possible reason could there be to not vote for Obama?

Cecelia

Olbermann has no difficulty apologizing for mistakes.

Just ask Don Imus and David Shuster.

For THEIR mistakes, Olbermann issued apologies so portentous and dramatic that Imus and Shuster seemed to have no other recourse but to throw themselves into Kilauea.

When he bothers to acknowledge his own screw-ups he just jokingly names himself Worst Person In The World.

Now there is something he's right about...

SteveMG

Now there is something he's right about...

He's just a flat out poor journalist. Forget about ideology or politics; just look at his reporting substantively.

He writes very well and is quick witted and funny. But he relies on those skills at the expense of solid journalism. His reporting is, frankly, sloppy and lazy and poor.

He's a lousy interviewer who doesn't listen to the responses by his guests. He doesn't do any original reporting and he doesn't verify his sources or his stories.

That's lousy journalism. Full stop.

Cecelia

"He doesn't do any original reporting and he doesn't verify his sources or his stories."


Well, those activities would cut into Olbermann's All the President's Men fantasy time, wherein he plays both Woodward and Bernstein, as well as John Dean and Deep Throat...

Danube of Thought

He's getting far more attention than he deserves, here and elsewhere.

Charlie (Colorado)

I don't think that Olbermann should waste time on the fake controversy about McHenry words.

Isn't it a little late to make that suggestion, Sasha?

Danube of Thought

The Danube flows far, far off course:

"Presidential candidate John Edwards is caught up in a love child scandal, a blockbuster ENQUIRER investigation has discovered.

"The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that Rielle Hunter, a woman linked to Edwards in a cheating scandal earlier this year, is more than six months pregnant — and she's told a close confidante that Edwards is the father of her baby!

"The ENQUIRER's political bombshell comes just weeks after Edwards emphatically denied having an affair with Rielle, who formerly worked on his campaign and told another close pal that she was romantically involved with the married ex-senator.

"The ENQUIRER has now confirmed not only that Rielle is expecting, but that she's gone into hiding with the help of a former aide to Edwards. The visibly pregnant blonde has relocated from the New York area to Chapel Hill, N.C., where she is living in an upscale gated community near political operative Andrew Young, who's been extremely close to Edwards for years and was a key official in his presidential campaign."

centralcal

Gosh, Danube, that news is pretty old - I think she must have had the baby by now. Ya think they will do a DNA test to see who the daddy is? Someone opined that is one of the reasons why Edwards hasn't endorsed anyone. Nobody wants his endorsement, just in case.

Tom Maguire

Geez, Danube, lovely to have you stop by - any Super Bowl picks?

Topsecretk9

Posted by: Rick Ballard | April 05, 2008 at 01:54 PM

Rick

That's an interesting thought - I kinda thought it, but didn't put 2 and 2 together. They are definitely antsy and shooting from the hip alright.

Jane

Ouch TM!

hit and run

Besides, if you want the latest Edwards news (not his I won't be VP news), you have to go you know where.

clarice

IIRC Danube aka OT dared to take a few weeks off for a vacation as that hot news about Edwards popped. Kaus follows it the most closely because he obviously thinks there's something to it.

RW

Come on, Tom. It's a private contractor. No need to be accurate on a story about such folks. I mean...."screw them", right?

MayBee

IIRC Danube aka OT dared to take a few weeks off for a vacation as that hot news about Edwards popped. Kaus follows it the most closely because he obviously thinks there's something to it.

FWIW, my mother in law who is the Demmiest Dem in the whole Dem world believes its true. And I know she didn't get the story from any right-wing source, because she doesn't listen to any.

daveinboca

clarice is right about the tiny band of Odorboy's eyeballs mud-wrestling the faithful Gush Emunim of 60 Minutes.

The Disney Channel is more relevant and truthful than either shows. And who does Maddow's hair-and-makeup? Oops, forgot she's from Canada---love to see the swatches under those armpits!!!

JJ

The change that this show again marks, I think, is what has been happening for a long time in journalism and that it is the beginning of full-blown advocacy journalism.

I don't have the cites/sites but even the journalists themselves want to be "more directly in the picture" -- as if that's possible.

Advocacy journalism will blur the line between solid facts and bogus ones so the question naturally comes up, is it dangerous or dumb for journalists to go this way? To me, it's dumb. Totally.

Easy to pull down and great opportunity for bloggers to have a go.

The sad part obviously is that editorial comment, facts, and pure tabloid -- tabloid, like MSNBC has become -- get mashed up together and it becomes hard to put all the pieces of an account together. But c'est la vie.

JJ

BTW, go ballons!

JJ

Or, Go Balloons!

olbycakes

this shit is over my head; at least when just skimming over it. whats the deal, olby and or maddow were inaccurate with their propaganda?. a bigshot was barred from gym entrance? olby failed to correct his network? im lost.

Danube of Thought

Christ, did I blow this one or what?

I do recall when the story broke about Edwards's sweetie. But I never heard about the preggo part, and thought I was picking off a brand-new hot one from the Enquirer. Kaus made me do it!

Tough room, man...

Philip

This is great reading! This blog (http://mchenryrocks.blogspot.com/2008/04/sigmon-has-no-problem-lying-and.html) should be linking to you!

Ken Hahn

As a long term resident of Southern California, I can remember the high point of Olbermann's career. It was when he was a third rate sportscaster on a second rate local news broadcast. It's been all downhill from there.

battery

As a long term resident of Southern California, I can remember the high point of Olbermann's career. It was when he was a third rate sportscaster on a second rate local news broadcast. It's been all downhill from there.

battery

So when Palin accuses Barack of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

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