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clarice

That IS vicious, TM.

I think you're right about how far back his alliance with Ayres goes, but I am a bit reluctant to go there because unlike the CAC project, the details of their work together then is still vague and because the point that he lied about his relationship with Ayres is obvious even if their actual working relationship only goes to early 1995, doesn't it?

motionview

The Annenburg records are open, Pete Yost almost reports again:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzhxdkuecq3l3HWnAFXwQfQrQyLgD92NKSVG0

I just love "credit for bombings that included non-fatal blasts at the Pentagon and US capitol" . An instant classic!

bad

My apologies if you've already seen this:

After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois
(c) 1990 Illinois Issues, University of Illinois at Springfield
ISBN: 0-9620873-3-5
Chapter 4 (pp. 35-40) of After Alinsky

by Barack Obama

LUN

Americaneocon

Gotta love that timeline!

Ann

I just received my NRO magazine and Stanley Kurtz is a must read but what I found interesting is what Acorn stands for:

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

Hello, Now I know what Community Organizer means!!

clarice

I haven't seen that, bad.

Charlie (Colorado)

Thank God you started another thread. 450 was getting a little hard to load.

Ann


CNN is reporting Obama Binden is number two. Gotta love that.

Publius

Earlier today I stumbled across an article written by BHO that first appeared in the August/September 1988 Illinois Issues, published by University of Illinois at Springfield. The article is titled "Why Organize? Problems and Promise in the Inner City". Apparently it was added as a chapter in the book: After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois .

In the article you can see why he chose to set up his community organizing shop in Chicago, and his motivation for attending Trinity Church. You have to read into it, but it could be said that it is a hint of his road map to the big house.

LUN

bad

The article previously linked written by Obama on Community Organizing was originally written in 1988, just republished in 1990.

Guess we need to chase down that book, "AFTER ALINSKY". I wonder who else wrote chapters in it?

Publius

bad,

Sorry for doubling up. I was just too slow getting off the keyboard.

Soylent Red

Well the Biden pick is going to be less than invigorating for the Obamessiah Cultists.

They got up around noon for this?

JM Hanes

bad:

Well, there are timeline blanks available in 1987 and 1990 which could use some padding.

Publius

bad,

After first trying Amazon with no success, I googled the 'After Alinsky' book. It lead me back to Amazon where I found 4 copies available. The price for the 4 copies, all in paperback, ranged from $90 to $181. In college I paid $0.50 for 'The Communist Manifesto', but that is as high as my budget goes for progressive literature.

Ann

Biden wanted to break up Iraq into three countries. What a choice. Way to go Obama, your first decision stinks!!!

bad

Publius

Time to shake down all of our leftist friends...

Karl

The 1990 article/chapter was discussed and linked by Stanley Kurtz back in June.

bad

Here'a a little more for the timeline from wiki:

..during the period Barack Obama worked as a community organizer with the Developing Communities Project on the far South Side of Chicago (1985-1988), he was also a consultant and trainer for the Gamaliel Foundation.

LUN

JM Hanes

Thanks for the link, Karl. Kurtz read the book so we don't have to!

Publius

bad,

Those kind of prices look reasonable if you are paying with CAC grant money.

JM Hanes

This could be more fun than bingo, which it resembles, couldn't it?

bad

The 1990 article/chapter was discussed and linked by Stanley Kurtz back in June.

Dang, always a day late and a dollar short!! Kurtz is amazing. Does he have a bodyguard?

SWarren

Obama's crashing and I don't think Biden is going to do a dang thing for him.

The good news:
I've been watching Rasmussen's Electoral College Vote.

For quite some time Obama had been holding steady with a 210–165 advantage.(45 EVs).

Friday there was suddenly a big shift in the likely's to McCain.

The gap has narrowed to only 10 EVs.

Obama leading in states with 193 Electoral College votes and McCain leading in states with 183 Electoral College votes.

There's still the 'too close to call' votes, but the momentum is with Mac.

SWarren

NBC: Biden accepts VP

JM Hanes

LOL. Lester Holt just cut in on late night Olympic coverage. The Olympic host cut in on Holt, then stumbled half way through a couple of different sentences before saying "We'll be back in a moment." My only question is when and if the cell people got their text messages. Holt is back, so I'll be back in a moment.

bad

Kurtz read the book so we don't have to!

Should we ask to borrow his copy?

JM Hanes

Whoo hoo. Looks like Camp Obama "short circuited" the text messaging scheduled for Saturday morning when sources inside the campaign confirmed the Biden pick, per Lester Holt coming to you from....Bejing.

JM Hanes

bad:

It's certainly conceivable that he might find it an encouraging sign.

bad

THE GAMALIEL FOUNDATION’S
FAITH AND DEMOCRACY PLATFORM

LUN


Sara

Biden was dissing the far left of his party not too long ago and now Obama disses the kiddie korps by breaking his promise that they would get the news first. Does not bode well.

JM Hanes

What kind of genius rolls out his VP at 1:00 AM on a weekend?

bad

One who is hoping it slips by, unnoticed..

JM Hanes

And have they just kissed all that prospective money from the cell phone list goodbye?

JM Hanes

Sara:

Unless the cell people were partying too hard to notice, Team Obama's best bet may be selling the list to the highest bidder.

Sara

Suitably Flip:

Longtime readers will recallthat Barack Obama'snewly tapped running mate Joe Bidenwas fugitive bundler Norman Hsu's5th most richly lavished Senator, behind Clinton, Obama, Harkin, and Kennedy.

Over a 15 month period from 2005-2006, the veep hopeful accepted at least $39,100 from Hsu's suspected straw donors.

Sara

McCain Campaign response:

“There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama’s lack of experience than Joe Biden. Biden has denounced Barack Obama’s poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing – that Barack Obama is not ready to be president,” McCain spokesman Ben Porritt said in a statement.
JM Hanes

Joe Biden as Spiro Agnew? Think about it.

JM Hanes

Sara:

Got a 404 page with your link to Suitably Flip -- perhaps he's reworking that post -- but I had a good laugh over this:
Were Mondale and Dukakis Otherwise Engaged?

So Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and John Kerry have all been added to the Democratic Convention speaker roster. That's a reasonably impressive booking - fully 60% of the party's Presidential losers from the last 30 years.

The equivalent Republican field is limited to Bush 41 and Bob Dole, but so far as I know, the RNC hasn't managed to book either one for their convention.

Bel Aire

Hopey change. As in I hope that folks that signed up for that 'first to know' text message gave nothing more than change. And they still overpaid.

Sara

Oh my goodness, you have to read this AP article:



The candidate of change went with the status quo.

A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his boss has expressed impatience with what he calls a "reverence" inside his campaign for his message of change and new politics. In other words, Obama is willing — even eager — to risk what got him this far if it gets him to the White House.

That's just the tail end. He is going to throw his whole hopey/changey message under the bus. Good grief.

bgates

Imagine the equivalent of that timeline for Biden.
1942 born (he's a pre-Boomer, same generation as McCain)
1965-68 Law School (graduating 76th of 85)
1972-present Senate

anduril

The New Republic piece on Biden starts out like this:

It's a bright early October morning on Capitol Hill. Joe Biden is bounding up the steps of the Russell Senate Office Building, wearing his trademark grin. As he makes for the door, he is met by a group of airline pilots and flight attendants looking vaguely heroic in their navy-blue uniforms and wing-shaped pins. A blandly handsome man in a pilot's cap steps forward and asks Biden to help pass emergency benefits for laid-off airline workers. Biden nods as the men and women cluster around him with fawning smiles. Then he speaks. "I hope you will support my work on Amtrak as much as I have supported you," he begins. (Biden rides Amtrak to work every day and is obsessed with the railroad.) "If not, I will screw you badly." A dozen faces fall in unison as Biden lectures on. "You've not been good to me. You're also damn selfish. You better listen to me..." It goes on like this for a couple of minutes. Strangely, Biden keeps grinning--even fraternally slapping the stunned man's shoulder a couple of times. When we finally head into the building, Biden's communications director, Norm Kurz, turns to me. "What you just witnessed is classic Senator Biden." Meet the current chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and the Democratic Party's de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism. No other Democrat has been as visible in the weeks since September 11, and Biden, who began promoting himself almost immediately after the attacks, is likely to speak, for the foreseeable future, for a party lacking in foreign policy experts. That's good news for a man who is thinking seriously about running for president in 2004. But is it good for the Democratic Party? Biden is tough and he's an internationalist. Unfortunately he's also legendary for speaking impulsively and leaving others to clean up the mess. "He lacks the filter," says one Democratic strategist. Or as a senior Senate foreign policy aide put it: "Biden is an unguided missile." Not exactly the persona you want out front when the country is at war.

I didn't read the rest. Didn't seem much point.

http://www.tnr.com/columnists/story.html?id=ba9b09bb-ed01-4582-b6ec-444834c9df73&k=93697

Captain Hate

Apologies if this has been brought up, but wasn't Biden the source of the "beyond the pay grade" line, although in his case he was applying it to Scott Ritter back before he jumped the shark? What a wordsmith!!

Semanticleo

"“There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama’s lack of experience than Joe Biden."

You think he's harsh on Obama?

Wait until he starts in on Cap'n Ahab.

That'll be vicious..............

Karma. It's wonderful.

kim

Poor reference there, Leo; McCain is hardly monomaniacal. However, I'm sure the two have been dueling for decades; if it works, it's an inspired choice. But, I don't think it will. Taking the spotlight off Obama isn't going to help when the ships hit the sand. Obama is as fragile as glass, right now, and if it weren't earthshaking to do it, I think he'd be replaced.
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bad

Kim, I like!! Biden as distraction.

Obiden '08

clarice

bad, NRO did a piece recently on gamaliel foundation.

bad

I'll go look for it. Thanks!!

kim

Yeah, bad, two angry old white farts duke it out while The One rises above the fray.
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anduril

clarice, the Stanley Kurtz blog opens up the line of thought that there could be significant benefits to an Obama presidency: the patent radicalism of Barry and la Michelle would very possibly blow the Democratic Party sky high in so short a time that there would be no danger of enacting any of their radical schemes.

The countervailing consideration is that in the current international climate there would be an advantage to having a president who agreed with the last person he spoke to (as opposed to one who's ideas are set in stone): there would be a chance that that last person from his circle of advisers might speak sense to him.

clarice

I'm not into the make an omelet by breaking eggs group..I'd like to see the Dem party blowup and reform because they take another Dukakis type pasting this time around and then if they stay on this disastrous course we know they need a collective shrink.


A lot of harm can happen in four years with creeps like this at the helm AND with a Congress of the same party.

Speaking of that AT has a blog today on some funny business re DC property between the Pelosis and Seagrams.

bad

More Kurtz: Senator Stealth LUN

anduril

Pelosi does funny business with property everywhere she goes. She's done plenty of it in SF.

anduril

And here's the countervailing argument to the Dem blow-up scheme: can the GOP (or any political party) be trusted with overwhelming power? Look what they did with a middling majority!

kim

Right, those sojers surged feet set in stone.
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jeff

You seem to be the voice in the wilderness regarding this connection back to 1987. Keep up the good work.

Not that big a deal, but I think you have a couple of typos where you have 2008 instead of 1988...

However, per "Dreams From My Father" (p 290) we see that Barack planned to leave his directorship at the Developing Communities Project in May of 2008.

I doubt the ABC's Coalition sprang into being in June 2008 and pulled off such an effective grassroots operation.

The proposal hammered out at the summit was presented at the end of March 2008 and went nowhere, apparently.

Greg Q

Hi Tom

I would email these, but can't find an email address for you:

1: You have a bunch of "2008" that should be "1988" (starting at Barack planned to leave his directorship at the Developing Communities Project in May of 2008).

2: You have a link to TradeSports. No longer works. The political bets are now at InTrade

sylvia

"seeing Obama as Director of the Developing Communities Project from 1985 to 1988 "

Well I read some more of TM's old links on ABC. I'm not so sure how strong the case is there. I didn't see specifically what role Ayers had in that ABC coalition yet, other than he was a "coordinator". Did he start it, did he pick the group leaders? Also there was at least 12 groups with multiple subdivisions. So Obama would have been one of 12 group leaders and of more if you include the subdivision. Still, they would have at least known each others names and knew OF each other, for sure. Whether they actually met, hard to prove.

johnemorissey

Obama said Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood."Our kids went to the same schools".Obama s kids are 4 and 9 now.In the eihties and nineties Obama didn t have any kids.Another briliant sophistry and sleight of hand?

sophy

I will thank for my friends bringing me in this world. I am not regret to buy Hellgate Palladium .

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