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August 19, 2008

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bad

BRAVO, TM

windansea

it' kind of like the Edwards story

they report on why they didn't cover it, and think they are reporting.

Ranger

Well, I've suspected for a while that the CAC, as actually implimented, was simply a way for Ayers to funnel lots of money to his "social justice teaching" friends and grad students, so they could earn a comfortable living without having to do the hard work of actually teaching. Maybe that is what the donor is afraid will be confirmed.

bad
Klonsky was a recipient of a 1995 grant of $175,000 from the Challenge for the Small Schools Workshop that he was hired by Ayers to head up (apparently Klonsky was a cab driver in Chicago at the time) in 1992.

Is this the same Mike Klonsky who was formerly Obama's Education Blogger who is now presumably under the bus?

Elliott

What bad said.

MayBee

I like the way the Weather Underground "espoused" violence. How about "committed" violence?
But I won't be choosy. At least the story is getting some coverage.

Rick Ballard

Yeah, same guy. I'm bookmarking Global Labor. That guy has more info on Obama in Chicago than anyone else I've seen. As TM notes, he owns the story.

RichatUF

bad & Elliott-

Is this the same Mike Klonsky who was formerly Obama's Education Blogger who is now presumably under the bus?

Yes. LGF a few weeks back was tracking the piss poor management, security holes, and seeming lack of editorial oversight at Obama's website. He hasn't done a Obama campaign website post in a while, but was keeping tabs of all the pages that were disappeared, Klonsky's among them.

Barney Frank

"a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago..."

Every time I read this phrase it reminds me of that song they used to sing on Sesame Street;

--Who are the people in your neighborhood,
In your neighborhood,
In your neeeiiighborrrhood,
Yes, who are the people in your neighborhood,
They're the people that you meet,
When you're walking down your street,
They're the unrepentant terrorists.--

centralcal

LOL, Barney.

I'm thinking Hillary is gonna be VP, cuz the One is tanking in the polls.

And if McCain picks Lieberman, I ain't voting.

Foo Bar

One of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grants was to former Weatherman Mike Klonsky. More awkwardness.

I don't think this is right. Klonsky knew some of the Weathermen, he was a key guy in SDS, a Maoist, and surely someone the Obama campaign doesn't especially want to be associated with, but I don't think he was a Weatherman:

Klonsky denounced the Weatherman manifesto for arrogance, militancy and sectarianism on August 29 in an article in New Left Notes

More from Wikipedia:


During the Summer of 1969, the National Office began to split. A group led by Klonsky became known as RYM II, and the other side, RYM I, was led by Dohrn and endorsed more aggressive tactics, as some members felt that years of non-violent resistance had done little or nothing to stop the Vietnam War.

...

At the beginning of the convention, two position papers were passed out by the National Office leadership, one a revised statement of Klonksy's RYM manifesto, the other called "You Don't Need a Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows." The latter document outlined the position of the group that would become the Weathermen

However objectionable his Mao sympathies may have been, it doesn't look like he was involved in violent terrorism in the U.S. the way the Weathermen were.

Almost like reporting, indeed, TM!

bad

Rich

Is it the same Mike Klonsky in this Wiki page being considered for deletion?

LUN

matt

The Weather Underground's stated purpose was the revolutionary overthrow of the United States government and were considered too extreme by the Maoists (US chapter) in 1969. This from Wikipedia. I wish I had the time to access their original manifestos. I'd say they were a lot more than simply espousing violence. They were committed to a revolution on the scale of November 1918 and were luckily held in check by their marginal philosophy and law enforcement. In other world, the scum of the earth. I get seriously ticked off every time I see a terrorist with a bomb, and Bill Ayers and his bitch were the 1969 equivalent of our buddy Osama.Sorry for the anger, but this kind has caused some serious agony in our world.That the media has done its best to ignore the story really upsets me. At least Wright is pretty much a blowhard. These people were serious, and only their own stupidity and dumb luck on the part of law enforcement prevented them from killing a lot more people than they did.

Barney Frank

However objectionable his Mao sympathies may have been, it doesn't look like he was involved in violent terrorism in the U.S. the way the Weathermen were.

Either way I still suspect the wheels on the bus are about to go round and round on our little Maoist.

Jane

I agree with Bad - Bravo, TM. Of course when you get picked up there will be no shortage of trolls swirling around. Ahhh The price of fame.

Rick Ballard

It's obvious that there is such a vast difference between the domestic terrorist Ayers and the peace loving head of the Maoist Communist party Klonsky that the $175,000 grant steered by Ayers to Klonsky was an act of revenge on Ayers' part. He wanted to highlight the fact that Klonsky was no better a communist than Ayers himself. Both could be rented for the right price - just like Obama.

bad

From Weatherman Wiki:

The origins of the Weathermen can be traced to the collapse and fragmentation of the Students for a Democratic Society. The split between the mainstream leadership of SDS, or "National Office," and the Progressive Labor Party pushed SDS as a whole further to the left. National Office leaders such as Bernardine Dohrn and Mike Klonsky began announcing their emerging perspectives, and Klonksy published a document entitled "Toward a Revolutionary Youth Movement" (RYM). RYM promoted the philosophy that young workers possessed the potential to be a revolutionary force to overthrow capitalism, if not by themselves then by transmitting radical ideas to the working class. Klonsky's document reflected the growing leftist philosophy of the National Office and was eventually adopted as official SDS doctrine.

I feel sooo much better that Obama was giving money to a communist rather than a terrorist. And this communist is still active in education.

bad

Klonsky got his grant of $175,000 in 1995. Check this out from Alexander Russo evaluating the failure of Chicago's Annenberg challenge:

In addition, Bill McKersie points out that many of those in control of the process were neophytes. "A set of people who didn't have a lot of experience in grant making got control of the process," said McKersie.

Another element may have been the push to get the first wave of grants out the door as quickly as possible. "Why the rush to move $3 million in 1995?" asked McKersie.

LUN

ajacksonian

Hmmm... if I were a highly paid media consultant for this to help Obama? Lets see... ask Rezko to have the Ayers problem 'solved' in return for a pardon at the end of an Obama Administration?

Then act shocked when that is uncovered!

Those weren't the crooks and terrorists Obama knew!

MayBee

I did not realize that Rezko's partner when he talked Obama into coming to Chicago was Farrakhan's son.
Sorry, that's a bit O/T.

Who are Obama's normal friends?

RichatUF

bad-

same guy.

Sara

I feel sooo much better that Obama was giving money to a communist rather than a terrorist. And this communist is still active in education.

Yeah, especially since communist KGBer Putin is trying his damnedest to start WWIII and reconstitute that "illustrious" bastion of communism, the Soviet Union. Timing is everything.

All those educated kids are now running the Obama campaign or voting for the One, totally clueless to what they have gotten themselves into.

bad
It is one thing to observe that the Chicago Annenberg Challenge effort was ill matched initially with the goals, priorities, and top-down approach of the new team running the city schools. But the fact that so few relationships were built between the Challenge and the Vallas team (school district) over time suggests that the Challenge was also unable or unwilling to work closely with the district. This lack of cooperation is important because the relationship between the Chicago Challenge and the Vallas administration might have been mutually beneficial, however unlikely a match they were. Other Annenberg sites developed effective -- or at least benign -- relationships with central school system authorities. Other Annenberg sites also survived changes in governance and district leadership.

Is this an example of Obama's ability to transcend differences?

Soylent Red

I feel sooo much better that Obama was giving money to a communist rather than a terrorist.

Right bad.

There's a term used with chemical weapons called persistence. It refers to a chemical agent's "stickiness", or capacity to linger and cause lasting effects.

The term "communist" evokes images of conspiracy to undermine democracy from the inside, whereas "terrorist" evokes more directly confrontational images. Conspiracy and sneakiness play more into people's uncertainly of The One's unknown-ness.

Thus to refer to someone in Obamessiah's circle as a long time "communist" is a more persistent attack.

I encourage the Cultists to downgrade Ayers, et. al., to "communists" every chance they get.

JM Hanes

The real irony is that the current crop of Russian oligarchs are ideology-free.

Soylent Red

JMH:

Unless you count ruthless greed as an ideology.

PaulL

I'm sorry, but Obama will not allow any of you racist liars to portray him as against good schools in Chicago.

matt

Soylent;

I would beg to differ. Lenin and the Bolsheviks were terrorists, and this was a popular thread within the far left during the late 60's. Most of it was drug induced, but the Weather Underground was dead serious. Remember the town house they blew up in Greenwich Village? reminded me of a lot of the clowns in Iraq and Afghanistan who don't seen to remember that explosives are dangerous. This what we used to call God's sense of humor. Ayers and Dohrn deserved 10-15 as far as I'm concerned. They were building nail bombs. Very nasty stuff.

Patrick R. Sullivan
Well, I've suspected for a while that the CAC, as actually implimented, was simply a way for Ayers to funnel lots of money to his "social justice teaching" friends and grad students, so they could earn a comfortable living without having to do the hard work of actually teaching. Maybe that is what the donor is afraid will be confirmed.

Exactly. Which would expose Obama for the lefty he probably secretly is.

Noel

Why Stanley Kurtz?

That is, why is it left to conservative writers like Kurtz to dig up these records? Where is our much-vaunted, highly-trained, handsomely-paid super-professional Attack Poodle Media? Why, they're waiting to be spoon-fed their next press release from the Teleprompter Man's campaign.

If a Republican co-chaired the Scaife Foundation with an unrepentant abortion-clinic bomber, do you think the press would be sleepwalking like they are here? No, they would trample their own grandmothers to get theior hands on those files.

John McCain should directly challenge the Book-Banning Librarians to stop Censoring For Obama.

steveaz

So, let's review...

1. Obama's Church "damns" America,
2. as Chairman and lead Director of a multi-million foundation focused on "reforming" education, he did not achieve anything of note.
3. He is barely three years into his junior term as an Illinois Senator with no record to speak of (except a host of not-present votes).
4. He has dark skin, and looks good in a speedo.
5. He associates with a "who's who" of Leftist agitators who espouse, and in some cases, practice delivering terror attacks to American civilians.
6. He is 'kinda' Muslim - he doesn't have both feet in the Ummah, but his advocacy-stew of militant Black Liberation Theology, crypto-Marxist statism, and queer anti-Americanism puts him soundly on the Ummah's Christmas-card list.
7. And the Democrat(ic)s want him to be the next President of the United States of America.

This is a resume that only Al Qaida could love. Geez.

Folks, can we get serious soon? Events are pushing at the gates and we need clear heads in charge for the next eight years.

Crimeny!
-Steve

bad

More info on the failure of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge:

Unfortunately, the organization of the Chicago Challenge into an independent foundation seems to have done little to establish a distinct identity or role apart from the community organizations and reform groups -- largely because these same groups remained the chief beneficiaries of Annenberg funding.

HMMMMMMM... I wonder why an education foundation run by a former community organizer mostly confined funding to community organizations?

Ranger

HMMMMMMM... I wonder why an education foundation run by a former community organizer mostly confined funding to community organizations?

Posted by: bad | August 19, 2008 at 09:34 PM

Because they are the ones who are organized at the local level to get out the votes when the "former community organizer" decides to run for office (or re-election).

I am beginning to re-asses my view of the CAC. Maybe it was more of a $50M donation to Obama's future political career, with a little thrown in on the side for Ayers' "social justice teaching" friends.

Joan

Re the education foundation: What kind of tax status does it carry? 501C(3)? Does the IRS monitor and/or audit groups like this? Wonder where all of that money went?

narciso

Any similarity to Gerald Nicola's research on the VVAW which dissappeared after Scot Camil's role in the "Phoenix" plan to
'bring the war home" and Kerry's own ' voting present' position at the Kansas City enclave, effectively a war council to take out war supporters like Sen. Stennis, Thurmond, et al; and subsequent resignation.
Klonsky or Ayers, that's like Comandante
Gonzalo of the Shining Path, or the more moderate MRTistas like Nestor Cerpa, Khmer Rouge or Viet Cong; who do you root for. The
key part is Obama had ties to both, in the Greater Chicago area. Both were playing Marighela's urban guerilla strategy with their trust funds, Ayer's Con Ed ties, along with Oughton's old line real estate ties.Another failure of COINTELPRO's finely polished 'jackboots'. Yes I'm aware the Crips and the Bloods feud, arose in part from the Ron "United Slaves" Karenga, the godfather of Kwanza,and "Bunchy" Carter's Black Panthers. You couldn't make this up if you tried, and why would one want to. This insanity which thankfully wasn't
repeated at Occidental or Columbia in the 80s; is what Obama feels he missed out on. And we get to go on his trek back 'down the good ole days' Well SDS is still around; I read it in the Times Sunday Education supplement, it must be true! The cold reality, is that this round robin doesn't stop even when Obama is defeated. They'll probably turn to irregular action groups with names out of hip hop or alternative bands; Dylan won't cut it, this time. The
resurgence of the black bloc anarchists of Seattle,repeating in Prague, Rome, a dozen other sites is a troubling omen. The Ron Paul/Gravel/Kucinich fringe fed with the
'blood libel' of trutherism, should have died a quiet death, but hopes are rarely fulfilled that easily.

bad

Ranger

Maybe some of the CAC money did go to education. (Klonsky's) One of the previously linked articles says Klonsky was a cab driver in 1995 when he received his $175,000 grant. The website LUN says he is now a doctor, presumably of the educational variety.

Sue

Joan,

They file a tax return. Which is subject to public scrutiny.

Soylent Red

Well Matt I'm not arguing what Lenin and the Bolsheviks were.

I'm simply pointing out that referring to Ayres as a "terrorist", a term that the opposition can claim is hyperbole based on the number of innocent people he actually killed, will elicit less of a response from the electorate than referring to him as a "communist". We've already seen that line of reasoning floated by O-trolls.

The communist tag is much more difficult to weasel out from under, and plays much more harshly against the general misgivings surrounding Obamessiah.

Unfortunately both terms apply in this case.

Porchlight
John McCain should directly challenge the Book-Banning Librarians to stop Censoring For Obama.

From what I know about university libraries and archives, I don't think that the special collection librarian at UIC is necessarily the reason why the records became suddenly unavailable. The levers being pulled are at a much higher level. However, she may have alerted the higher ups to Kurtz's investigation.

If she was asking a higher-up an honest question like "we don't have a signed deed of gift, can I let this guy see the records?" that would be conscientious and perfectly reasonable. But if she called up saying "hey, this NR guy is snooping around, just thought you should know" then that would not be kosher according to the unofficial code of confidentiality among librarians, which is that it's none of our business who wants to know what - it's our business to provide access to the info if we are legally allowed/required to do so.

It's an odd situation, for sure.

Joan

Thanks, Sue.

Re: Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and Republicans have been highlighting his ties to Ayers through the group.

So, did Obama receive remuneration for his chairmanship? Was it just public-spirited donation of his time?

So far, all I'd been thinking about re the Annenberg Challenge had been the terrorist who plotted bombings and stomped on our flag. Hadn't been thinking about all of that money.

bad

Joan

It was the money angle which finally moved NYT to do a story on John Edwards.

Ranger

I also think that this is much more than just a cover up of Obama's relationship with Ayers. Clearly, the CAC failed. The question is, how central to that failure was Obama?

Did it fail because his priorities as chairman pushed money to his old friends in the "community organization" community?

Was the poor relationship with the Chicago school board because Obama was not able to earn the board's trust?

Maybe Obama saw the position of chairman as just a resume enhancer, and did very little. If so, was that the understanding of those who agreed to his placement in that position?

Why did he step down from the chairmanship halfway through the project?

The answers to these questions should be in those files.

narciso

"That dang fool thing in the Caucasus, reminds of the opening credits to the nuclear mutiny tale; Crimson Tide; which ultimately was to over written, 6 screen writers plus Tarantino; which evinced a strong contempt for Clinton era civil military relations; although Denzel's character gets the best arguments, just like Cruise in "A Few Good Men"
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bad

We should be able to narrow down the possibilities of who had the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Documents. If I recall correctly, it was nine individuals at the head of the group. Time to do some dumpster diving.

sbw

I'll have to tune in again, tomorrow, for the next exciting episode of "As Obama turns." 'Night all!

bad

From Wiki:

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge received a grant of $49.2 million from the national Annenberg Challenge based at Brown University. The grant was to be matched 2:1 by private donors. By 1999 the Chicago Challenge succeeded in raising an additional $60 million.

All of the $49.2 million of the grant was awarded which implies that an aditional $100 million was raised privately. So we are talking at least $150 million spent on a venture that failed.

Porchlight

'Night, sbw!

bad, Steve Diamond is curious about Stanley Ikenberry, CAC boardmember and currently Regent Professor and President Emeritus of the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign) College of Education.

Extraneus

Why do you guys say the CAC failed? I'd be surprised if any of us know what its objectives were, or whether they were achieved. It certainly doesn't seem to have failed Obama.

bad

We need to post little tidbits of info about Obama, Ayers and The Chicago Annenberg Challenge and links so the newsie types who troll looking for a story have something to work with. There is bound to be an aspiring Woodward or Bernstein looking for red meat.

Soylent Red

Right on Ex...

The assumption here is that CAC was about improving schools, rather than improving bank accounts.

When it comes to most things inside Chicago politics, that's usually a bad assumption.

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