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September 09, 2008

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baked alaska

John McCain's temper is well documented. He's called opponents and colleagues "shitheads," "assholes" and in at least one case "a fucking jerk."

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html

ben

"UPDATE: The McCain campaign is now saying Obama called Palin a pig, which he didn't"

He sure as hell did. If you read the whole quote he was definitely referring to Sarah Palin. He followed it up with a comment about old fish being wrapped in paper that still stink, you dont have to be a genius to figure out that was a hit on McCain. It was a one-two punch he thought he could get away with, so don't let him off the hook so easily. Everyone on the conservative side wants to be "more than fair" with Obama, lest we be accused of racism, but this guy is beyond being treated with kid gloves. The Dems are playing for keeps, and Obama needs to be held to the same standards as everyone else regarding his gaffes and lies.

ben

"Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity"

Hey half baked, on the condition of anonymity I heard that 23 reporters witnessed Obama tell Michelle he need to snort some coke "right now".

Paul Zrimsek

I heard the whole thing and it was just as obvious to me that he was talking about McCain.

Even so, perhaps we could celebrate Palin's Thatcheresque qualities by dubbing her the Pig Iron Lady.

Half Baked

With smarts like that, "baked alaska" could easily get a job on Obama's rapid response team. In fact, he may already be a member.

sbw

I don't mind a temper. I sometimes have one. Despite my temper, I don't manage my office exercising it. I go back into my office, with my closest associates, and vent in private. Having anger is not disqualifying. Being terminally foolish is. I'll take McCain with his anger over the other choice any day.

I don't like to get angry, but the game of life sometimes seems to be trying to figure out whether 80% of the people act like asses 100% of the time, or 100% of the people act like asses 80% of the time.

Take baked alaska, for instance...

Sue

He's called opponents and colleagues "shitheads," "assholes" and in at least one case "a fucking jerk."

Who was he talking about? It might have been the truth.

R C Dean

He's called opponents and colleagues "shitheads," "assholes" and in at least one case "a fucking jerk."

Considering that his opponents and colleagues are Senators, I would say that he is right on the money, no?

bgates

this guy is beyond being treated with kid gloves.
That's because it's forbidden for his flesh to come into contact with the Infidel.

Hey raw alaska, thanks for the baked story.

dooobie

"You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.” “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink."

Does anyone actually believe this wasn't planned in advanced?

jimmyk

The McCain campaign would do better to just graciously say that they're sure Barack did not mean to refer to Palin. McCain comes off looking classy while voters can form their own judgments.

I'm also not comfortable with McCain's "sex ed for kindergarteners" ad. If the program really was about helping kids avoid predators, McCain will come off badly. I mean, with so much legitimate stuff to go after Obama on, there's no need to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

ben

It's funny, half baked by-passed all those fresh and relevant and recent Obama gaffes and lies to bring up an unverified and "anonymous" quote from 16 years ago. Desperation is really setting in. I expect a McCain was seen jaywalking witness very soon.

bad

I'm with you dooobie, he couldn't think that up on the fly. In fact he struggled to get into position to tell the little funny.

ben

"The McCain campaign would do better to just graciously say that they're sure Barack did not mean to refer to Palin"

Why??? That would certainly be gracious, but undeserved. Palin has been trashed unmercifully by the same people who now want Obama to be given a break? McCain doesnt need to do this to look classy, he IS classy already. It's Obama who needs to convince people he is Presidential material, and these statements aren't going to do it for him.

Ann

I have a drawer of lipstick samples from cosmetic promotions I never used. I just figured out what to do with them. Anybody got an address for the O. :)

belle

Absolutely, bad. He slid by when he dusted Hillary off his shoulder and slyly gave her the salute. He thinks he won't be nailed this time either. But it is the same dis.

ben

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink."

Suppose McCain said, you take a glorified community organizer and launch him for President and give him a cloak and walking stick and call him the Messiah...he will still be a community organizer. Imagine the uproar, Olberfuhrer and Matthews would be frothing at the mouth.

PD

I thought it was a generic (if ill-advised) comment about policy positions, but my wife immediately interpreted it as a remark about Palin. I'd be interested to know whether this issue polls differently for men versus women.

Even if Obama didn't intend his remark to be about Palin, it's just an incredibly dumb thing to say. He has to be aware that "lipstick" is much in the public consciousness right now, and that any use of the word cannot fail to cause us to make the connection and at least wonder whether he was saying OUR SARAH is a pig.

And besides, no attack ever fed a hungry child.

ben

Soooo, it's inevitable....is this Lipstickgate? Swinegate (stolen from Instapundit)? Fishgate?

bgates

It would be a mistake for McCain to lower himself into the fray between Obama and Palin. Palin can take care of herself anyway. Complaining about it would be a mistake. What's she going to say, "we will not be insulted"?

She can joke about it. Say Obama probably just got tired on the campaign trail again. Laugh it off. That drives him nuts.

Danube of Thought

"He's called opponents and colleagues 'shitheads,' 'assholes' and in at least one case 'a fucking jerk.'"

Wow--better close the shutters, and put the women and the clergy to bed.

This poor rube Baked is obviously too young to remember what Harry Truman threatened to do to an opera critic who had dared criticize his daughter Margaret. And to think the man had his hand on the nuclear trigger!

clarice

Heh--Identity politics at its finest. O began by having his surrogates yell racism at every criticism of the One and now is getting the poo flung back in his face as "sexism!"..If nothing else this election should be the death knell for that carp.

bad

Obama filed suit against a radio station for bias.

LUN

clarice

Why doesn't he just swarm them like they did to WGN?
Thin-skinned and no respect for the First Amendment.
Well, why don't we sue MSNBC? LOL

Joe "Plugs" Biden

I once called Obama both 'clean' and 'articulate'- when absolutely everyone knew that the implicit finish to my statement was "...for a (insert racial slur here)".

I reject this one-sided catergorization of my racism. I pledge that when I am being a racist, I will not forget my innate sexism!

Did you know that John Edwards has become 'rich' from 'channelling' (in court) the thoughts of the exact same deceased children that he would also surely consider "fair game" for an abortionist?

Meanwhile, I personally believe that life begins at conception- unless you really, really want to kill it at any point before it exits the vagina- I'm sure it's OK then... because I probably didn't hurt your feelings.

bad

OOPS not Obama, a democrat.

ROA

About McCain's "sex ed for kindergarteners" ad. From NR’s Campaign Spot:

Team Obama argues that the comprehensive sex education bill was common sense and designed to protect kids from predators. Notice they voice no objection to the ad's points on "no significant mark on education," "elusive on accountability," "staunch defender of existing monopoly," etc.

On the sex ed bill, it's possible that Obama had the best of intentions, but the bill text did include, "Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV." Do kids really need to know about STDs starting at age 5? Isn't it a strong argument that the "good touch-bad touch" stuff could start that early, but the nitty-gritty about exchanging bodily fluids could wait until the kids are at least a little closer to double digits?

MikeO

Hey, dooobie!

You know how you can tell Obama had rehearsed those lines?

Had it been extemporaneous it would have been:

"You can put… uh, uh, I say, I say, no, no, no, you can put… no, no, wait a minute! I hear you in the back! You can put lipstick on a… uh, uh on a, uh, you can put lipstick on a fish wrapped in old newspaper, but… uh, uh, uh, wait a minute! But it's still old lipstick that stinks like a, uh, like a old pig stinks with old fish lipstick."

I wonder how much extra it cost the Dunhams to have Punahao send a short bus to get their idiot grandson to his SpEd classes.

DebinNC

KRLA carries Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and Hugh Hewitt - gentlemen all. What sets that station apart in BO's mind?

Baked Alaska's Sock Puppet

This poor rube Baked is obviously too young to remember what Harry Truman threatened to do to an opera critic who had dared criticize his daughter Margaret. And to think the man had his hand on the nuclear trigger!

DOT, How dare you suggest my buddy Baked doesn't know about Harry Truman!! He was just listening to his 8-track of "Hooked on Margaret Truman" yesterday. And don't worry about Harry's finger on the nuclear trigger; he was a Democrat and would never do something like that since they're the party of not hurting people.

baked alaska

Course material and instruction shall advise pupils that it is unlawful for males or females of any age to engage in sexual conduct or have sexual relations with a minor as specified in Article 12 of the Criminal Code of 1961.

Pedophiles Repeatedly Mount Firm, Insatiable Defense of McCain's Opposition to the Bill

paul

let me get this straight...

his campaign is falling faster than the dollar, and he is clearly having meetings to discuss the best way to take a jab at palin?

he then sends his surrogates out very likely with the admontion of not going to far with it...

this would be akin to giving pyromaniacs a tanker truck of gasoline and a flame thrower, and then telling them to behave.

risk/reward?
the risks are evident...if they aren't he has no place in politics.

the reward is making people who already support him laugh. this must have been what the band sounded like on the titanic.

DebinNC

I don't know about the rest of the country, but it's obvious that Obama has written off the South. A whiny man who bleats about not being bullied while letting surrogates fight his battles is repugnant here. Now his minions are trying to silence conservative talk radio because liberals can't attract an audience or advertisers reinforces his his weakness.

baked alaska

McCain's Honor Judged Worthless on EBay

Buford Gooch

On the sex ed thingy, the bill does bring sex ed into kindergarten, no matter what the stated purpose was. I don't think my five year old granddaughter needs to learn about exchange of body fluids quite yet.

Baked Alaska's Sock Puppet

You guys are making a huge mistake by ignoring baked's comments on kindergarten sex-ed; if anybody has working knowledge of how the mind of a pedophile works, it's my buddy baked.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Half Baked: Every real person knows that honor cannot be bought.

idontknow

Seems to me the 'pig' reference is to McCain and Palin is the lipstick. Come on, this is silliness.

Also, the quote is "It's still going to stink after eight years." Isn't he talking about the Bush administration?

kim

Baked Alaska isn't interested in dialogue; he's in a contest with himself to see which one can come up with the lamest meme.
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clarice

Funny you should say that ,Deb. Just read he's pulling his workers out of Georgia and moving them to No. Carolina. (Looks like soon his firewall will be somewhere in Ontario)

baked alaska

An Anchorage judge three years ago warned Sarah Palin and members of her family to stop "disparaging" the reputation of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten, who at the time was undergoing a bitter separation and divorce from Palin's sister Molly.

Allegations that Palin, her husband Todd, and at least one top gubernatorial aide continued to vilify Wooten—after Palin became Alaska's governor and pressured state police officials to take action against him—are at the center of "Troopergate," a political and ethical controversy which has embroiled Palin's administration and is currently the subject of an official inquiry by a special investigator hired by the state legislature.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140

Rick Ballard

Too late, baked. Obama is in Macaca over his nose. The death of a thousand cuts hasn't even hit a hundred yet but there's still plenty of time.

And one very, very stupid candidate.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I saw a headling today saying McCain up by 20 in NC.

Cecil Turner

I see the 0bama campaign is getting their talking points from baked:

Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary, responded in a statement: “It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn't define what honor was. Now we know why."
They can't be that stupid, can they? Well, maybe they can . . .

baked alaska

"It is the mother's [Hackett's] responsibility to set boundaries for her relatives and insure [sic] they respect them, and the disparagement by either parent, or their surrogates is emotional child abuse," Judge Suddock wrote. He added that: "If the court finds it is necessary due to disparagement in the Mat-Su Valley [the area north of Anchorage where Palin and her extended family live], for the children's best interests, it [the court] will not hesitate to order custody to the father and a move into Anchorage."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140/page/2

Baked Alaska's Sock Puppet

Any time baked submits a flurry of comments it either means that he's been kicked off all the free pr0n sites or he'll soon be kicked out of the basement so his mom can bang the cable guy.

Cecil Turner

And now she's "vilifying" Obama, right?

Is that all ya got? If so, better make somethin' up. Because there's an a** whoopin' going on, and the one who sounds like a little girl is your candidate.

Rick Ballard

Cecil,

What we're seeing is very similiar to what happens when you walk up a pheasant. A great noise and flapping of wings and a tremendous voiding to lighten the load as they try and escape.

They've finally decided what to do and they're not winding their watches or going blind.

This is great entertainment - better than Kerry's collapse.

clarice

If somone threatened to kil my sister and my father and tasered my nephew, I'd have been hard pressed to respond as moderately as Palin did. Baked..I do so hope they make an issue of her reaction to this bully.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds.

What does this mean? How'd Romney get into it, he doesn't have any girls? And they sure haven't had any inhibitions about going after someone with 3 young girls. And McCain has girls.

I don't get it.

DebinNC

The NYT thinks we're idiots: Feeling a Challenge, Obama Sharpens His Silver Tongue

"There were plentiful signs in recent days that the voters turning out to see Mr. Obama liked his forceful tone, with several audiences chanting along with him, “Eight is Enough! Eight is Enough!” which has become a rallying cry for changing Washington. Newly invigorated, his presence and energy on stage resembled how he began to act last fall as his extended primary battle with Mrs. Clinton became fully engaged."

Silver tongued? Are they crazy?

Bob Shrum

This is great entertainment - better than Kerry's collapse.

Thank God for Axelrod.

Danube of Thought

"Pedophiles Repeatedly Mount Firm, Insatiable Defense of McCain's Opposition..."

Well, I'm no pedophile, but I confess to having mounted a firm, insatiable thing or two once upon a time.

Captain Hate

But he has taken sharp aim at her record as Alaska governor, vigorously questioning her evolving stance on the state’s so-called bridge to nowhere.

“She was for it until everybody started raising a fuss about it and she started running for governor and then suddenly she was against it,” Mr. Obama said, speaking over an applauding crowd in Michigan. “I mean, you can’t just make stuff up. You can’t just recreate yourself. You can’t just reinvent yourself. The American people aren’t stupid.”

The man (sic) has no shame.

ex-democrat

two at once, dot? that's impressive.

Rick Ballard

Shhhh.... Do you hear it? The soft sound of checkbooks closing and being slipped back into drawers. Who backs a dolt too dumb to take public money?

Cecil Turner

This is great entertainment - better than Kerry's collapse.

The only thing that worries me is that it's too early . . . there's still time for him to get a clue and turn it around. But that feeling is mitigated somewhat, as there's no evidence of any slope at all in the learning curve. (And supporters like the Kos kids are so stuck on stupid that they'll never be able to let go.)

If this continues until the election, it'll be great entertainment indeed.

paul

"there's still time for him to get a clue and turn it around."

i think it's too late...

obama is no longer the 'master' of his own destiny, he is subject to a new 'mistress'.

(speaking of mistresses-I think the post- mortem is going to fixate on the role of michelle nixing hillary)

Bill in AZ

I sense the subtle hand of Rove in all of this "eight is enough" carp. Obamas campaign has dived into this big time, and I have a feeling it is going to backfire on him.

Many folks in the muddle will jump at a chance to like Bush once again. They sense there is something wrong with the firehose of disinformation and lies they have been fed for 8 years, and just need something trigger a reversal. Bush approval ratings are already showing some increase. All McCain has to do to ensure a landslide is to quietly and subtly elevate Bush in these last few weeks. The muddle will respond.

M. Simon

baked,

I can tell you were never in the US Navy. Sailors and Marines have a way with words.

M. Simon

McCain needs to take the high road.

Let the other side demoralize themselves.

M. Simon

You know baked I'd be hard pressed to define honor without looking at a dictionary.

But I know it when I see it.

moi61537

On Obama's "pig" comment Obama is cynically manipulating all of us. He makes nasty comments like that using code words (pig, fish) that seem harmless as old phrases but phrases that have deep meaning (the fish smell). This is like his giving his finger to Hillary. I don't think he's coming apart at all but showing his vicious hatred of women. What strikes me as very odd is how that seems to play very well with the press and the crowds. How can all those young women support him when he shows such disrespect to them and all women. Hooray for McCain's campaign calling on Obama's vicious sexism. Maybe this will be the end of the "gangsta" rap candidate.

Bob

Ah it's great to watch "Bake and Fake" try to spin this one so early in the morning!

Whether he meant it as a sexist slur or not, the fact that he used it, showed such poor judgment... I'm sure if it were 3:00 AM in the morning, he'd have been more astute!

Game over - and Lights out!

Hillary is already starting to distant herself! Ha Ha!

Neo

Thank God for Axelrod.

Did you catch that "grassroots" reaction to Obama's statement ?

Jane

Half Baked: Every real person knows that honor cannot be bought.

Great line Sara.

Marvin X

New Lipstick Ad


Dave

So what if Obama was talking about Palin. She obviously is not a pig, so the line was to me a humorous takeoff on a common expression that was relative to the democratic pitch and Palin's pitbull line. Very intelligent to me. Has McCain lost his new-found ability to lighten up?
I think the old fish line was very derogatory and was worthy of the McCain's team complaints but I guess they don't want to draw attention to his age anymore.

kim

Dave, the only one in America who doesn't get it.
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Ann

This morning Andrea Mitchell refuses to be judgemental unlike Sally Quinn.

It is always good to start the day rolling on the floor laughing.

Where's my lipstick!

PeterUK

Faked Alaskan,
"John McCain's temper is well documented. He's called opponents and colleagues "shitheads," "assholes" and in at least one case "a fucking jerk."

McCain has met you I see.

Looks like we have Deranged Digits back with his fake McCain memes.

M. Simon

Have you guys seen Smeared Lipstick?

M. Simon

Have you guys seen Smeared Lipstick?

Lea

"no, no, wait a minute!"

Heh. He does like that phrase, doesn't he? He also keeps doing some weird faux southern accent, including dropping g's. Mostly when he's in his standup mode.

I think it was a bit much to do an ad on this, but maybe they just wanted to play Katie's clip? At any rate, I hope neither McCain nor Sarah mention it, except possibly in a joking matter. It's clear that Obama's the kind of person who doesn't respond well to people laughing about him, and those people are fun as hell to laugh at.

M. Simon

Dave - If it was unintentional - ∅ is a stupid politician.

If it was intentional - ∅ is a stupid politician.

Proof positive you can have it both ways.

Which leads to the inescapable conclusion that ∅ doesn't need the women's vote to win.

Ranger

Well, since team Obama is questioning McCain's honor, can team McCain question Barry's patriotism now?

PeterUK

baked alaska judged worthless on JOM

baked alaska - Deranged digits - sferris three names - one arsehole.

Jane

Dave calls a spade a spade.

Jane

Sferris - that's it! And who was he before that?

Jane

MSimon,

Was it you that did the blog entry on ooda loops? I want to reread it.

bad

Is it okay to call a spade a spade or does it send the dialogue into a black hole? Or does it blow?

DebinNC

Jeff Greenfield last March: Bugs Bunny vs. Daffy Duck - Why voters always choose the wascally wabbit for president.

I can't believe that McCain is the cool Bugs and Obama is now the sputtering Daffy.

kim

You can put lipstick on a spade and still all it's good for is digging the hole deeper.
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Jane

The difference between a Hockey Mom and a Hockey puck.

LUN

PeterUK

M Simon,
Baked Alaskan doesn't have any words of his own,strictly a cut and paste merchant.
Turned up a while back as sferris,became the tosser with the digital moniker,he has now morphed into baked alaska.

M. Simon

Jane,

I have done several. Google:

OODA Power and Control

also

Charlie Martin Pajamas OODA

If you have to go with just one go with Charlie's. Mine are more commentary. Charlie is educational. Also I left a link or two in Charlie's.

nan

Obama is showing his true qualities of being a street man with street man talks.
He is trying his best to put down Palin the same way he did with Hillary. He hates these white women.Is this the type of leader we need? LIPSTICK ON A PIG? Is this presidential ? You en see nothing yet, just wait.

nan,pissed off democrat

M. Simon

Charlie Martin at AT on OODA

PeterUK

Jane,
Probably an entity called Pete.Used to post long lists of Iraqcasualties.

bad

Welcome nan

Jane

Thanks M

larwyn

ANN & ALL,
O!'s address via GM Roper who sent me this last night.

GM HAS GREAT IDEA....
(Link not working this morning)

I Wonder How Obama Would Like Some Lipstick?

So, Obama thinks its funny to compare Governor Palin to a pig does he?

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."

I think this needs to go VIRAL... everybody who can, send a Lipstick to Senator Obama!

Here's his address

Obama for America

P.O. Box 8102

Chicago, IL 60680
Shame we can't also send some OLD FISH - but the SS would not look kindly on that. Think that among those photoshops which ACE linked was a LIPSTICK AD - Sarah's shade was MOOSE BLOOD (imms :::laughing)

GM EMAILS re SENDING FISH....
Who Says We Can't? Same Address isn't it?

PeterUK

nan,
"He hates these white women.Is this the type of leader we need? LIPSTICK ON A PIG? Is this presidential ? You en see nothing yet, just wait."

Obama has issues about his mother and, in all probability,his grandmother.

M. Simon

nan,

I cover the street aspect at:

Acting Like Swine.

larwyn

O! the SEXIST:

Barack Obama: "The Bitch Is Crazy"
Check out this video of Barack Obama talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton (h/t Bob Robbins): "The bitch is crazy". Mr. Obama is a man of experience. We badly need him. Really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq3NLjdJ4Vc
Posted by Mitchell Langbert

Post link: http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/09/barack-obama-bitch-is-crazy.html

Porchlight

How much do you want to bet that women at the next Palin rally will be holding up their lipsticks in solidarity?

DebinNC

"Obama has issues about his mother and, in all probability,his grandmother."

You're so right.

Bob

apee, apee, apee, that's all folks!

Charlie (Colorado)

Yeah, Baked, let's keep going with that. Palin's family was calling the guy who tased their kid and threatened to murder two of them disparaging names.

Ann

Palin Power, Hold up your lipstick.
Love It, Porchlight :)

Thanks for the address, Larwyn ROFL
Hope you have a great day!

and
Welcome, Nan

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