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September 22, 2008

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Great Summanr from WSJ on how this all happened.

LUN

Make that summary

Here's a little off topic, Obama goofing, and at the same time humanitarian jem in case anyone is sick of tranches and CDOs 24/7.

I'm reposting this on the advice of counsel (JM)from an earlier thread. I apologize for the length:

I have a general idea for avoiding future liquidity contagion problems with derivative securities, but I'm not sure it's practical. What I was thinking is that securities could have "crisis" or "system failure" clauses. These would be restrictions on how much lenders (in a broad sense) would be paid conditional on some market-wide, non-manipulable indicator of a crisis (spreads over Treasury, perhaps, or volumes of cash withdrawals from predesignated banks and mutual funds, or...?).

These clauses could be set up to give the lender an option--"If spreads over Treasury go over x points and you call your bond or ask for more collateral or whatever, you only get y% of the face value you are owed." (Perhaps this could be enhanced with an encouragement such as "If spreads go over x points and you DON'T withdraw your liquidity at the crucial moment then you get 1+z times your money when the crisis is past.") These haircut percentages could possibly be made nonlinear in the degree of crisis so that their deterrent effect was highest when the panic was greatest.

The idea is to create a counter-incentive to panic by penalizing withdrawals of liquidity that occur just when liquidity is most needed by the system. And if I see that everyone else is facing the same incentives, my own level of panic that everyone else is pulling their money out is reduced and a virtuous cycle is created.

Another way to look at it is that systemwide liquidity risk cannot truly be hedged or insured, yet current contracts (and valuation methods) don't account for this. Everyone getting their money out at the same time is always going to be impossible no matter how we regulate, as long as we have some version of borrowing short and lending long (and I kind of like modern civilization). If everyone agreed (or were required) to only do business with borrowers who included such "crisis-haircut" clauses in all their securities, perhaps liquidity contagions would be less likely and the system more robust.

I welcome any comments about whether this idea makes sense or how it could be implemented or if we already have such things but they somehow don't work. Note that any crisis indicator must be non-manipulable by an individual entity--otherwise they could use manipulation to avoid paying people whenever they felt like it, and no one would do business on that basis.

I am from another planet and have these things for you to show I am a friend: A device which produces infinite energy. A human/alien hybrid DNA sequence that will make humans perfect.

Bill's belly's want free money.


Let them fail. SAY NO TO BAILOUTS.

Paulson's plan has just caused oil to spike $25 in a day. This is insane. Stop the give away to Goldman.

I found CIA agents(VA constituents he needs so bad) for Obama, but they say they're really just a bunch of Peace Corps people.

http://foreignpolicyforobama.com/

Don't worry, be happy........

How do offshore accounts work?

(a) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 7 days after the
11 date on which the Board exercises its authority under the
12 third paragraph of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act
13 ((12 U.S.C. 343), relating to discounts for individuals,
14 partnerships, and corporations) the Board shall provide to
15 the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
16 of the Senate and the Committee on Financial Services
17 of the House of Representatives a report which includes—
18 (1) the justification for exercising the authority;
19 and
20 (2) the specific terms of the actions of the
21 Board, including the size and duration of the lend22
ing, the value of any collateral held with respect to
23 such a loan, the recipient of warrants or any other
24 potential equity in exchange for the loan,
and any
25 expected cost to the taxpayer for such exercise.

Dodd proposal reference to warrants

At some point, one hopes Krugman actually reads the bill.

;-)

TCO, you may think food riots and a depression are acceptable sacrifices for purity, but the conscious members of the group know you're wrong.

Dear American:

I need to ask you to support an urgent secret business relationship with a transfer of funds of great magnitude.

I am Ministry of the Treasury of the Republic of America. My country has had crisis that has caused the need for large transfer of funds of 800 billion dollars US. If you would assist me in this transfer, it would be most profitable to you.

I am working with Mr. Phil Gram, lobbyist for UBS, who will be my replacement as Ministry of the Treasury in January. As a Senator, you may know him as the leader of the American banking deregulation movement in the 1990s. This transactin is 100% safe.

This is a matter of great urgency. We need a blank check. We need the funds as quickly as possible. We cannot directly transfer these funds in the names of our close friends because we are constantly under surveillance. My family lawyer advised me that I should look for a reliable and trustworthy person who will act as a next of kin so the funds can be transferred.

Please reply with all of your bank account, IRA and college fund account numbers and those of your children and grandchildren to wallstreetbailout@treasury.gov so that we may transfer your commission for this transaction. After I receive that information, I will respond with detailed information about safeguards that will be used to protect the funds.

Yours Faithfully Minister of Treasury Paulson

link

I have to admit, it's getting past my intellectual bedtime. My first look at this seems to agree with yours, Tom.

The original scheme semmed to be a way to get the securities off the books, while letting the government assume them discounted for risk.

This scheme seems more like loan sharking.

It's still justa cut and paste job, baked, but at least it's funnier than your usual crap.

Guess who thinks John McCain has a pretty good record on reform...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrSjtdfc_I

GMax,

Who gets to value the contingent liability? Does it go down on the books at 100% of the value of the MSB sold or would a prudent investor demand that it be marked to 125%?

I'd kinda like to know so that I can make some calculations concerning potential dilution of ownership interest before I risk any money by purchasing shares.

Maybe someone will sell me some sort of an insurance policy protecting me from the contingent liability - maybe we could call it a credit default swap or something like that? There might even be a big market for such an instrument.

I wish someone would mock up a balance sheet for Senator Dodd and have him show us how this all works.

What I would like to see is the Fed buy the debt in exchange for equity shares now, with the Fed getting preferred dividends until the loan has been repaid. This would wipe the books in the short term, keep the firms responsible for the bad deals they had previously made, and encourage them to pay off the loan quickly. The stockholders would take it in the shorts, but if the firm is able to pay off the loan quickly then the pain will be brief.

I’m just a simple cowboy, livin’ the dream and missing my sheep. But, in my frequently kicked brain this looks a like Yellowstone did just before the entire thing went en fuego. There was so much work put into keeping a fire from starting, much less burning, that the underbrush and the dead wood finally gave us a conflagration devoutly not to be wished. At the end of the reign of that theory of forest management, someone with a modicum of awareness of the implacability of nature realized that lightening was not the enemy of the Park.

The more artificial this market, the graver the consequences when market lightening strikes. I know, some say shorters are the bane of free markets. That is not remotely true. But, when I short a calf, it stays short.

Anyway, I just wish I had insider information like those who knew in advance that there would be an announcement about MS and the shorters. I could have bought at $11 and sold at $30. If you think any amount of this silly and poorly written regulation will make a difference, you are not a seasoned observer.

For the purists who are still saying we should have just let it go to smash, Mega is quite good. She doesn't take it as far as I did with seed loans, but then she's a city girl.

That's "Megan."

TCO translated:

Let the system go belly up. $25 to $50 trillion in American losses is nothing compared to having taxpayers on the hook for $.7 trillion.

Let the system go belly up. $25 to $50 trillion in American losses is nothing compared to having taxpayers on the hook for $.7 trillion.

The survivors will live and the weak will die.

Waß mich nicht umbringt macht mich Stärker.

Guess who actively sought to boost minority homeownership? John McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis.

As The New York Times reported today, Davis was president for several years of the Homeownership Alliance, an industry advocacy organization formed mainly by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The Alliance's core mission is to boost the number of mortgages granted.

But take a look at this picture from the alliance's annual report in 2004, unearthed by a reader, showing Davis at a Congressional reception praising minority homeownership (click to enlarge):

pic

"We have an opportunity in the next decade to increase minority homeownership and significantly reduce the minority homeownership gap," Davis is quoted saying here. "The future of the housing market rests heavily on the economic success of minorities. Homeownership is likely to grow faster among minority Americans in the next decade if all the stakeholders in the housing industry work together to make it happen. The Homeownership Alliance is working toward this goal."

story

TCO translated:

And here I thought it translated to Totally Confused Onanist. My mistake.

Fuck the RINOs. I'm taking my base and going home. You guys can burn in Hell.

I'm taking my base and going home.

Promise?

I'm taking my base and going home.

Yeah, you said that last time.

besides, all ur base r belong 2 us.

Baked, I keep telling you, that was a goddamn caribou in that picture. A reindeer.

She shot Rudolph.

Geez.

all ur base r belong 2 us

Has anyone here actually played that game? I'm no gamer, but then I don't play with myself like TCO.

It occurs to me that the Dodd plan quacks an awful lot like an incentive stock option. Just as with an ISO, I'd assume that the dilutive effects of the future liability would have to be booked at the time of the issuance of the warrant. That sounds like a fabulous way to crater the stock at exactly the moment that the treasury steps in to buy the bad debt. This is what is sometimes known as an "unintended consequence."

GALLUP:

"This year, 47% perceive the news media to be too liberal and 13% perceive them to be too conservative, with only 36% seeing media coverage as "about right."

Who are these 13%???? I want to sell them some nice almost dry land in Florida.....

Was Biden having trouble sleeping at night?

"Barack Obama's running mate says a campaign ad that mocked Republican presidential candidate John McCain as an out-of-touch, out-of-date computer illiterate was "terrible" and would not have been done had he known about it. ...

"I thought that was terrible, by the way," Biden said."

Asked why it was done, he said: "I didn't know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we'd have never done it."

Who are these 13%????

They work for Media Matters.

From baked alaska:

23 such a loan, the recipient of warrants or any other 24 potential equity in exchange for the loan, and any 25 expected cost to the taxpayer for such exercise.

Believe it or not (I am still shaking my head and trying to figure my next move) I did a text search on the Dodd draft and found that use of the word warrant, after which I revised my sentence which had emphatically declared that the word didn't appear in the bill.

However, that revision didn't end up on the page, so now I am wondering what other revisions got dropped. Troubling.

Anyway, I have made a change to get across my notion that Dodd doesn't use "warrants" in describing this contingent equity make-whole mechanism.

The warrants referred to in this passage could just as well be warrants associated with a troubled asset, depending on the scope of Treasury purchases.

Whoops, the Obamabot Komisariat has had a little talk with Biden. Update:

"[I]n the statement issued by the Obama campaign, Biden said he had never seen the ad and only read press reports of it.

"Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Senator McCain's ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize," Biden said in the statement."

Tom,

Thanks for the econo-blogging. It's great to get the benefit of your perspective.

Whoops. Must either spell correctly or fix name.

Next time, perhaps.

DATA/ONE how the US went broke. Maybe if we taxed our GDP/GNP like Canada and England, we'd be okay.

We can't afford to give away 100s of billions a year. We need money back.

Mrs. McCain looks like a dunce. She's got a thing for British.

http://www.data.org/about

http://www.one.org/partners/index.html

Biden and Obama are the same.

Speaking of games, I have this game I'm trying to sell to Parker Bros. It's called Anarchy.

First you play the game, and then you make up the rules. So far, the only people showing any interest are Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke.

Ben, I'm afraid I can't help myself:

Guess who thinks John McCain has a pretty good record on reform... did not know the John McCain he thought he knew.

The Colombians found more anti Obama FARC stuff. Maybe they will trade with us now and let us make a few dollars. Pelosi has figured out trade is good because everything else is just giving the money away.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7630663.stm

Ben, it's the 36% we have to worry about. The 13% wouldn't buy land anyway, they'd insist the government expropriate it in the name of The People.

Re the Biden statement, can you believe those words were committed to paper? "I didn't see the ad before, but now that I have, I'm going to get back on message and say McCain is worse." I'd be embarrassed to use a sentence that read like his statement in a blog comment.

Blair's on the Comedy channel and says he didn't plan any of this even though America is socialist now. Swears he won't attack Argentina again. Converted to Catholicism. They converted to Judaism.

US mint has new penny out.

Clairice

In case you didn't notice J Street has it's own Astroturf Letter to the Editor generator built in


Here is one printed I found

Middle East progress

I have been reading the latest news coming out of Israel with cautious optimism - the ceasefire with Hamas, an offer to begin talks with Lebanon and the ongoing talks with Syria and the Palestinians. It looks like Israel is heading in the right direction in its quest for security and peace.

I have been struck, however, by the absence of public expressions of support for these recent peace efforts, most notably from the pro- Israel community that is normally such a vocal advocate for Israel and its policies.

As an American who believes that the security of Israel, its neighbors and the United States is enhanced by a peaceful Middle East, I strongly support these initiatives and hope the United States will do more to facilitate their success. I hope that those who consider themselves to be friends of Israel will join me in this strong expression of support.

JOSE MARQUEZ,Topeka

LUN

The link is one of those firms agencies hire to get news out.

The Mossad agent going into office set up Olmert for the war.

Rice had a cool propaganda war with the Russians, basically saying they have no balls as they send ships and planes to the Western hemisphere. Maybe we should cut and past that?

It's supposed to say Plame where it says Mossad.

Good write up by Tom Maguire. It's important for those who understand this crisis to keep adding information to the discussion. I'm finding good information from both conservatives and liberals here, and glad to see both sides agreeing that we need to stop and take a look before we write a blank check to bail out Wall Street millionaires. Too bad the comments section is still uselessly clogged with the redbaiting nonsense of all these tin foil hat oldies who still think this is 1970. Great article, useless discussion section.

Great article, useless discussion section.

I guess that explains why you are in it.

Get Lost!

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