A Rocky Road For Obma If Elected

If Obama becomes President his popularity will sag and he will make unpopular decisions widely viewed as unsound.

No, that's not my opinion.  My source is the always entertaining Joe Biden, who seems intent on lowering expectations to the point that the nation will marvel if Obama has the competence and vision to remember to show up on Jan 20 to be sworn in.

"I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

I don't like the sound of that.  The good decisions won't be popular?  The suspense is killing me.  And speaking of killing me, what about this fear-mongering from Biden?

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Oh, great - so per Biden, after Obama gets the 3 AM phone call we will all think he blew it.  I deplore this negative, attack-oriented campaigning.  C'mon, Joe, give me a reason to Go With O!

Hmm - people deplored similar fear-mongering from Hillary and Rudy.  Seasons change.

MORE: Jim Geraghty worries that the Senate won't be able to advise and consent in a crisis:

I'm hoping that, if Obama is elected, he nominates the best attorney general, secretary of state, secretary of defense, secretary of homeland security, etc., he can find. But if a crisis is unfolding, the Senate will probably be under enormous pressure to confirm the nominees and get them into their jobs as quickly as possible. That seems like less than ideal circumstances for the Senate to exercise appropriate scrutiny.

When did we expect scrutiny from Harry Reid and his 59 fellow Dems?

Jennifer Rubin has fun:

Well, golly, if Obama is so untested that we will have a series of international crises — at the very time we are in a financial meltdown — which will make the Cuban Missile Crisis look like a walk in the park, shouldn’t we vote for the other guy who will keep all the miscreants in their place? Now, maybe we should rest easy because, according to Biden, “I’ve forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you.” (Maybe Hezbollah’s occupation of Lebanon was one of the things he forgot.)

The Captain reminds us of Kennedy's meeting with Krushchev "without preconditions":

What resulted?  The Berlin Wall and the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy wound up trading strategic intel and missile installations in western Asia in exchange for Soviet withdrawal of the nuclear missiles from Cuba.  The entire Kennedy administration turned out to be a foreign-policy disaster that was only overlooked because of the tragic assassination of Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.

I agree with Biden.  Obama is exactly like Kennedy in this regard, and our enemies will test us by threatening our interests around the globe if we elect Obama.  I’d rather avoid the problem altogether and elect a man who puts enough fear into the minds of our enemies to keep them from testing us at all.

Biden is trying to put lipstick on the Bay of Pigs.

Comments

[Paul Zrimsek]

I thought Joe the Dumber was softening us up for the Nov. 5 announcement canceling the middle-class tax cut-- until he started going on about the Global Test.

[kim]

Joe's laying the groundwork for impeachment.
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[michaelt]

"Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Does that apply to candidates as well?

[bad]

Woe Joe

[bgates]

Feb 1, 2009. Two-way monitors are installed in every room of every home. The first image to come up: Joe Biden, saying, "See, I told you this wasn't going to be popular. But you voted for us. Now let me tell you about the summit we're convening to discuss what happened in New York. I'm thinking about popping up the gas tax to $5; it's good for the environment, and we can give the revenue to Iran to show there's no hard feelings."

[Barney Frank]

Interesting campaign strategy.

Not 'are you better off today than you were four years ago?';
but 'you are going to be worse off four years from now than you are today.'

[Barney Frank]

A Rocky Road For Obma If Elected

Is 'Obma' a pigeon English reference to Barry's ACORN rent-a-mob connection?

[Extraneus]

Biden's worries can be avoided if McCain utters the following words regarding Obama: "How is this guy qualified to be President?"

Oh, the mass gnashing of teeth. The hue and cry. The plaintive screeches of racism!

But not even his supporters can answer the question. Nobody can.

[bad]

'you are going to be worse off four years from now than you are today.'

Finally, some honesty from the HObama campaign.

Beyond "Spread the wealth around."

[Neo]

Obama has “worked closely” with Ayers – a claim debunked widely in the press

Come on Elana Schor .. show me the money .. and prove it.
Else you are a liar.

[Jane]

Ain't that the truth BGates.

[DebinNC]

Talk about chutzpah. With the election in the bag, Biden is now grooming a duped populace to ignore their lying eyes next Feb-July when DC statehood passes, abortions are paid for with public funds, the Marines are pulled out or Iraq in favor os Mogadishu II in Pakistan? And libs find Palin scary?

[clarice plumber]

Isn't it clever of Joe to remind us as we sit in this seven year safety cocoon--that we are consideringinstalling in office at a very dangerous time a totally untested weakling on national defense.

"Gird your loins", Biden says..You betcha!

[Pofarmer]

That's not to mention the problems that are going to follow Obama into office of his own doing. Rezko and all the peculiarities surrounding his campaign financing to name just two. How many political pitfalls has Obama not avoided, but fallen into and been pulled back out of, that would have killed any mere mortal politician?

[Sue]

Joe the Dumber. Serious laughing out loud!

[bad]

Ryan Lizza on Joe Biden.

LUN

Extremely disappointing so far but I'll keep reading.

[clarice plumber]

Sue, I love Joe the Dumber.
Maybe for last minute entertainment we ought to propose a debate on the economy between the two Joes.

[boris]

Sounds like Joe is warning ... "Don't you dare stab us in the back like we did W!"

[DebinNC]

Rush is starting off the week with Biden's "gird your loins".

[clarice plumber]

We see things rather the same, it appears. What a dunce Biden is..

[bad]

Biden:

I would see one of my jobs as essentially being the president of the Senate in the sense of actually not presiding as much as interacting, continuing to interact, talking to Harry Reid every day or talking to Nancy Pelosi,” Biden said

Ick

[Chris]

God love ya, Joe!

[bad]

More Biden: LUN

I have never, ever, ever screwed another senator,” he said.

I'll bet all senators are counting their lucky stars.

[bad]

**thanking**

[Sue]

I have never, ever, ever screwed another senator,” he said.

Why so specific senator? Did you screw a congressperson?

[bad]

More Biden:

“People point out the other mistakes that Presidents have made in the first hundred days,” he said. “I predict to you that Barack will not make them.”

Any need to gird our loins will be Hobama free.

LUN

[glenda waggoner]

wouldn't it have been patriotic and "sound" to have supported President Bush's difficult decisions? and maybe a solid front against the world who takes and then complains could have "liked" us more? PLease, this guy is giving all democrats a warning-don't vote for us-we're going to screw you!

[DebinNC]

Boy, bad's Biden quote above directly contradicts Biden's debate putdown of Palin's answer to the VP's role question. Giddy at the chance to vilify Cheney, Biden angrily and wrongly claimed then that the VP has no legislative role as it's a solely Executive Branch position.

[clarice plumber]

Maybe he didn't screw another Senator because his loins are always girded.

[bad]

The Lizza article on Biden talks a great deal about Sarah Palin.

Overall, the piece is very disappointing compared to Lizza's article on Obama.

Biden uses the word presumptuous a lot.

Here is Biden on Biden:

“I’m going to say something presumptuous,” Biden said to me. “There’s one advantage in having been around as long as I have. Everybody in the Senate knows me, and—I’m going to say something presumptuous, to repeat myself—I think most respect me.”

[sbw whitman plumber jane]

Thwack!

[Elliott]

Did everyone see Obama's comment that what McCain calls socialism, he calls "opportunity"? I think it gives McCain a great chance to explain why it won't work no matter what Obama wants to call it. And if McCain wraps it up by saying, "As Senator Obama rather ham-handedly remarked a few weeks ago, 'You can put lipstick on a pig: it's still a pig," more power to him.

[glasater]

"Gird your loins", Biden says..

He shoulda said "Fill your hands.....". Ala the Duke!

[bad]

we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community

Joe wants us to become community organizers for HObama.

[bad]

Lizza might drive the lefties nuts with this comparison:

In one way, at least, the Dick Cheney model appeals to Obama: he (Biden) represents the virtues of strong Washington experience, a close relationship with the President, and no hidden political ambitions. Unlike Humphrey, Mondale, Bush, and Gore, Cheney has not spent his tenure worrying about a future Presidential campaign...

Imagine actually believing a Cheney model has no hidden agenda. Is Lizza unaware of the Dark Overlords aspirations? geez...get a clue dude...

[A.B.]

Does Joe Illuminati know something we don't know, like another building is going to horrifically blow up or another war is in the works? Does he want to spark visions of the Bush administration? I am totally freaked out.

[Jane]

Imagine Biden promising he won't run. Now that's a laugh.

[clarice plumber]

Biden always blabs the last thing he heard. This weekend wqe learned both candidates' teams were breifed on existing threats.

[clarice plumber]

*we learned*
"briefed*

[Elliott]

Good point, Clarice. Who do you think will be breaking the story Ace has been teasing or is it all bunk?

[clarice plumber]

I'm inclined to believe the neighbors had a close relationshipo and the report is thus not farfetched, but I have no idea about the credibility of the source or when or if he/she will go public with that story.

[bgates]

Does Joe Illuminati know something we don't know, like another building is going to horrifically blow up
No, we've been told Bill Ayers isn't in contact with the campaign.

[Elliott]

From reading Ace's remarks in the comments, it sounds like PJTV to me. The recent columns they've had on the DOJ have been been anonymously authored.

[ben]

Meanwhile, Gallup shows Obama gaining, the other tracking polls are all showing a closer race. CNN has it 51-46.

[clarice plumber]

Good guess.

[clarice plumber]

Poll results from 10/23/04:
Gallup: Bush 51, Kerry 46
Democracy Corps: Bush 47, Kerry 49
Zogby: Bush 45, Kerry 47
Survey USA: Bush 48, Kerry 50
ARG: Bush 47, Kerry 50
Rasmussen: Bush 50, Kerry 46

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Ben, remember that when a poll changes by 1 point with a margin of error of 3 points, that doesn't mean any more than a coin flip would.

[Antimedia]

Neo is clearly an idiot. You can't read this blog and not know about Ayers' connections to Obama. The only possible explanation is willful ignorance. SOP for liberals.

[Sue]

Our Neo is an idiot? Our Neo is a liberal? I think you misread him.

[Charlie (Colorado)]

Antimedia, I think you're misreading that. It's Elena Shor saying Obama had no connection, and Neo calling her a liar.