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February 02, 2009

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Danube of Thought

My guess is that Daschle won't get confirmed. In any event he has always made my skin crawl.

clarice

Exactly. And if I have to hear that sleaze bag use the word "disappointed " again I won't be responsible for my actions.

But I fear the biggest mistake Obama has made--and one that will cost him a great deal more--is his suggestion that Jessica Simpson is fat.

RichatUF

I thought cockroaches crawled back into the shadows when the lights come on?

Neo

Be sure to mark your return Rangel Rule

... and put "quid pro quo" in the comment field of your check to Obama.

Extraneus

TM, you need to lower-case the "cid" for the END OF THREAD trick. (This one should work.)

Btw, there's nothing magic about "x" there. Anything that's not an actual comment id should work, such as y, z, 0, 1, 999999.

We need a clause in the porkulus bill to limit the pay of TypePad programmers to something closer to what they deserve.

ben

If Republicans are going to take a stand anywhere, Daschle is a good place to start.

MayBee

It seems everything is too important and too crucial right now for Americans to care about the usual trivialities like tax cheating and ethics problems.

Why does this make me nervous in the face of passing the biggest government spending bill ever?

What will be excused in the rush to spend billions?

pagar

Extranus, IMO, a better clause would be to pay Congress what they are worth. There might still be some tax problems for them, because of their moonlighting activities, but it should eliminate a lot of them. There also so needs to be a tremendous cut in the number of aides for them. My recommendation would be 1 each.

Jane

I assume these are closed door hearings today, right, so we don't see all the winks and nods.

Jimmy's Attack Rabbit

Hopefully Tax Simplification can be added to the Tax Cut dialogue and both Sec. Geithner and Sec. Daschel can be the poster kids.

RichatUF

Maybee-

Why does this make me nervous in the face of passing the biggest government spending bill ever?

Ethics and tax-cheats, what could go wrong when billions pass through their hands? We need more sloth, more corruption, more liars.

Largebill

Our problem with outrage over Daschle is we now have a Geithner precedent which says ethical lapses are not an issue when considering confirmation of nominees as long as they are nominated by The One.

Here is a Daschle quote to ponder while we sit here pissed off:
“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter.” — Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507."
(h/t Don Surber http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2009/02/01/daschled/)

MayBee

Daschle will be confirmed because Obama is still 100% behind him.

matt

pigs at the trough....

Barney Frank

Any grown man who would wear round, red rimmed glasses out in public cannot be trusted with dogs, children or money.

clarice

He got that from sally jessie rafaael I think..It's very IN.

Extraneus

Makes you wonder who's really in charge. I mean, why would Obama start right off voluntarily inviting the snickers about this farce from his enemies? How could a jerk like Daschle be worth the cost?

Jane

Daschle was a very early supporter. I assume this was always the quid pro quo.

pagar

In my 12:25 PM post, I failed to note what I believe would be a suitable figure for what a congressperson would be worth. At first, I thought about using a military enlisted pay scale. But since it is obvious that our nation expects more out of the average E-3 in our military than the average Congressperson, I thought that would too high for what they are worth. Than I thought about minimum wage but most of them would just ride the clock, so that would not work. It finally dawned on me that they all claim to be doing "public service" so I believe they are entitled to a dollar a day.

Appalled

No, Daschle should not be confirmed, and I hope the Wellstones and Byrds who voted against Geither will do the same re Daschle.

This administration is going to, at some point, have to raise taxes to pay for all this stuff. A nightmare for that policy is taht a tax cheat will be head of the committee that writes that legislation, and a tax cheat will be the fellow that runs the agency that administers that legislation. Nominating this guy would eliminate the doubt -- this administration does not care that its officials pay its taxes timely, so long as the rest of us pay ours

I supported Geithner on the grounds I thought his firing would result in a more leftist/populist pick, and the idea uncertainty in his position would unnerve markets. There's no reason to support Daschle. His experience, while well-compensated, is not so special that the country can't wait for another appointee.

Obama is going to have to learn that, as a mere mortal, his &*& really does stink as bad as everyone elses.

Pofarmer

It occurs to me that our Senators are kinda comfortable with each others company. That is not particularly comforting.

narciso

How do you pay them in change, there are exceptions but not too many.

clarice

OTOH he's clearly bought and still buyable...

PDinDetroit

I would hope that his hopes for nomination would be Daschle-d on the rocks.

Danube of Thought

Obama still supports him "absolutely." I think this nation has gone collectively insane.

matt

daddy;

no choice in the matter. My friends are deploying this week to Afghanistan.So it will be go/no go @ 3:00pm today. I am in the hands of Continental.

As to Mr. Daschle, I hope he's being well grilled. Slimy bastid.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

I always thought that Daschle personified the descriptor "unctious".

Nothing has happened since he was ousted by his constituents to change my mind.

 Ann

President Barack Obama says his decision to close the Guantanamo prison "will make us safer" and ensure that the government is upholding legal guarantees under the U.S. justice system.

In an interview aired Monday on NBC's "Today" show, Obama says his decision to close the military prison at the U.S. naval base in Cuba was driven by his attempts to balance "what's going to keep the American people safe" and constitutionally guaranteed rights for those imprisoned.

h/t gatewaypundit

MayBee

Obama in now saving or creating 3-4 million jobs.
Amazing how that number keeps going up.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

And for Clarice's benefit, I am really "disappointed" at his post-senatorial behavior.

RichatUF

Maybee-

Obama in now saving or creating 3-4 million jobs.

Those numbers have been enHansened. Maybe if he is really lucky, the financial sector will sell off another 20-30% this week as his administration of tax-cheats and the congressional tax-cheats get together and tinker some more with mortgages and housing.

Sbwaters

enHansened

Ha! Wonderful!

Old Dad

I hate to cast aspersions on Daschle's character, but wouldn't anyone with real integrity withdraw himself?

This "mistake" is disqualifying. Why embarrass yourself, your family, your friends, the Administration, the President, the Presidency itself?

If Obama stands by the nomination, he looks like a fool, or a crook, or both.

A pox on all their houses.

clarice

JimR "unctious" is the word that always comes to my mind, too, whenever Tom appears.
Reminds me of that Eddie Haskell kid in "Leave it to Beaver".

bad

Did Obama really call Jessica Simpson fat?

Jane

Gibbs says that 3 decades of public service "erases" tax cheating. And of course he is speaking for the administration.

kim

Yuh hunh. Said she appeared to have a weight problem.
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kim

Gibbs is priceless. I give him another month.
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clarice

Well, I figure I've been paying all my taxes for FIVE decades and I think I earned an "erasure" for the rest of my life.

Chris

OD,
Why embarrass yourself, your family, your friends, the Administration, the President, the Presidency itself?

They are incapable of any embarrassment. When you're on the side of "right", any transgression is meaningless. The greater good is at stake and that's Daschle's mandate.

bad

Never mind, Obama did comment unfavorably on Jessica Simpson's weight.

WHAT IS HE THINKING????? His wife, FLOTUS, is significantly larger. I hope Michelle decks him.

Old Lurker

"Reminds me of that Eddie Haskell kid in "Leave it to Beaver"."

Aw now that is very unfair to Eddie.

matt

They have no shame, and no antenna either. Daschle was a unregistered lobbyist, basically, who lined his pockets for the past 5 years with millions of dollars as his wife, another lobbyist, lined hers.

She is probably actually worse. Prior to becoming FAA administrator under Clinton, I believe, she was a lobbyist for airports and airlines. After her stint in government, she went right back to doing the same thing. I thought there were laws to stop this revolving door.

What a bunch of crooks.

MayBee

The Dow just went below 8,000

pagar

Gibbs says that 3 decades of public service "erases" tax cheating

Did they find that in some law? What does two decades of public service get? IMO, military service is the ultimate in public service, and I know a whole lot of people who have served 3 decades. I'll bet most of them didn't know that was a benefit they had earned.

Jane

I just read that O has violated his executive order against hiring lobbyists 17 times in 13 days. I don't remember where - it actually could have been here.

bad

Guess who said this to Vanity Fair in 1990?

'If I go into politics it should grow out of work I’ve done on the local level, not because I’m some media creation.'

LUN

clarice

I'm worried that O will be ridden out on a rail before his term is done and we'll be stuck with Biden and Pelosi.

clarice

Timesw of India, Jane.

bad

Gibbs sucks as press secretary, but look at what he has to explain and defend: Obama and his policies and choices.

Who could do a good job in those circumstances?

kim

Heh, it'll be over after Jessica Simpson finds voice.
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Jane

Ahhhh that's right - must have been via Hot Air. Thanks Clarice

Elliott

Feb. 2 has been declared a national holiday...by Hugo Chavez.

narciso

If they had any integrity, would they even sign up with this outfit. Consider a President whose House was bought in conjunction with a Syrian slumlord, backed by an Iraqi Baathist bagman, funded to the hilt with corrupt lucre from all over the world. A Vice President, similarly inclined, from the corporate & credit card capital of the planet. A secretary of state, whose husband was an ex president lobbyisy for Emirati princes, Saudi contruction magnates, Indian spam kings. An Atty General who's like the bizarro version of same, springs terrorists and crooks, send innocent 6 year old boys back to communist tyrannies. Whose firm lobbyies to free Gitmo terrorists. A Treasury Secretary,
now a Master of the Universe, who when he
worked for the IMF, which in part punishes whole nations for tax cheats, didn't pay his taxes. And a head of the NationalHealth Service, who consistently avoided paying all sorts of taxes, does that sum it up good.

MayBee

India is going to be going under the bus.

bad
The annual survey released Monday by the Internal Revenue Service Oversight Board found that only 9 percent of respondents thought it was ever OK to cheat on their taxes. Eighty-nine percent said it was never OK....the survey was conducted in late August..

O should take a look at this survey and reconsider Daschle. LUN


kim

I love the job Gibbs is doing. That he's not already the laughingstock of the nation is just one more trophy for the MSM's Hall of Shame.
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bad

Marc Ambinder is more interested in who leaked Daschle's tax problems than he is in the tax cheating. LUN

Neo

I'm waiting for the announcement that Geraldo Rivera has finally found the secret vaults of "Al" Capone which, to the surprise of everybody, contains a letter in which the 1930's organized crime figure states that he is sorry that he "forgot" to pay his taxes. The letter would further state that he is a registered Democrat and he should therefore be given a "pass" so that he could continue his many business ventures in the great city of Chicago, rather than die of cardiac arrest (possibly associated with the complications of third-stage neurosyphilis) 8 years after completing his sentence for tax evasion at the Alcatraz federal prison.

hit and run

I'm sorry to hear of the storm PUK is enduring and wish him the best.

PUK, we're praying for you.

But watch out…

LONDON – It was hardly a blizzard, but it still shut down the city that had beat back the Blitz.
The biggest snowstorm to hit London in 18 years idled Britain's trademark red buses, stranding thousands of airline passengers and commuters, and raising a vexing question of why a predicted snowfall caught authorities so off-guard.


...Obama will be along shortly to admonish your country that its lip is insufficiently stiffened, compared to his flinty Chicago toughness.

Elliott

Daschle's Day In The Spotlight

Everyone is trying to upstage you today, Hit and Run.

clarice

Hard to believe that those who can predict future weather and even jigger our lives to keep it stable missed this storm, isn't it?

Jane

Maybe he will advise the Brits to visit Kentucky - cause there is no crisis there.

JM  Hanes

What Jim said!

The one interesting moment in the only White House presser I've actually managed to get through was when Rbt. Gibbs caught himself starting to say "creating" millions of new jobs, instead of "saving or creating" jobs -- which he quickly corrected. Global warming becomes global climate change, and so it goes. Ari Fleischer had a lot of different ways to say, "I'm not going to answer that question," but Robert "Don't Want to Get Out in Front of the President" Gibbs takes three platitude filled paragraphs for almost every iteration of "no comment".

Saving jobs at the Defense Dept. would seem like a no-brainer, especially when most of the jobs the Hill is actually creating will be in government bureaucracies. Robbing Peter, and everybody else, to pay Congressional Pols.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Whenever a tough question comes up, GIbbs seems to be invoking the William Jefferson Clinton formula:

I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false, and I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you. [emphasis added]

This will get old fast.

JM  Hanes

narciso:

"does that sum it up good."

You betcha! I've saved that comment.

Old Lurker

"saving or creating" jobs -- which he quickly corrected. Global warming becomes global climate change, and so it goes."

Alice in Wonderland, 1984, and Atlas Shrugged all come to mind as we assign new meanings to old words.

JM  Hanes

Old Lurker, I think it's more like assigning no meaning to words. Closing Gitmo makes America safer! Who needs a military when there are no military solutions? Unilateral action is evil, unilateral disarmament is good. Eliminating secret ballots enhances freedom of choice. Putting media controlled V-chips in your electronic devices is digital rights management. A guy who cheats on his taxes can still be lauded for his integrity.

What absolutely boggles my mind is how blatant and shameless the doublespeak has become.

Daddy

"Does that sum it up good."

You're on fire today Narciso.

clarice

JMH, Wish you'd blog that to AT. It's a winner.

hit and run

Everyone is trying to upstage you today, Hit and Run.

No kidding, especially that little rodent. Oh and Punxsutawney Phil, too. But especially Daschle.

Old Lurker

JMH, there is a rubbernecking to see the car wreck aspect to some of it, if you have a sick sense of humor.

My Wall Street pals this weekend were STUNNED that the libs they sent money to now have the audacity to impose pay limits on THEM. All I can do is shake my head in awe.

jimmyk

Reminds me of that Eddie Haskell kid in "Leave it to Beaver".

Funny you should say that, as last summer I recall someone here saying that about BHO himself: "The Eddie Haskell of American Politics."

So we've elected Eddie Haskell and now we are getting an Eddie Haskell cabinet.

JM  Hanes

Clarice:

Working up a collection of oxymorons actually sounds like my kind of fun. Not having to construct an argument would be a real plus when it comes to git'n 'er done too. It might work with that Old Cool/New Cool list I started on before I relapsed, per usual, to commenting here!

clarice

I wish you would, jmh. You certainly have made a fine start of it.

kim

Waterboarding is torture but we'll allow extra stuff as needed. Bush invaded privacy, we'll protect it, exactly the same way. We'll make the world think better of us, by trashing ourselves. We must limit the global warming gas, Carbon Dioxide, in a cooling world.

We are through the looking glass, spooring the dreadlous flammerflickey.
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kim

Oops, wiki assures me that should be the 'dreadlous flammerflimmecky'.
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narciso

You know I pieced it, out of odds and ends, this is somewhat humorous for it's ironic nature, but then one realizes the level of contempt they have not for us, 'bitter clingers' but for the rest of the world as well. When you expect to owe 12-15 trillion dollars to the rest of the world, trust is at a premium, and if officials behave like Russian oligarchs or like the old nomenklatura they will laugh in our face, and close the bank window; Than Katie bar the door, the fun really begins. He account for his own finances, yet he's going to handle 1/7 of the countries GDP, probably close to 1/6 now. Geithner's a lost cause, but the same concerns apply. I repeat that rejoinder to Obama's line, about Robert E. Lee from the Alfalfa dinner; he would indeed he confused, not about race, but about the lack of honor in that room, with perhaps a few stirling exceptions. This isn't a game of oneupmanship we're playing
here, this is life and death, both figuratively and probably literally.

kim

Nice point, there, narciso. America is the safe haven from robber barons everywhere, or was.
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pagar

Gateway Pundit now has a post up saying the WH considers the Daschle matter serious.

White House spokesman Gibbs reiterated Obama's support for the former South Dakota senator and said it would be up to the Senate to weigh a "serious, but corrected mistake against that three-decade career in public service."

The link says it's 14 minutes old but it looks like the same garbage we've been reading all day. Obama stands by his man.

bad

Time magazine thinks O and his team set up the porkulous bill, anticipating Republican opposition so O can ride in and save the day by proposing something workable. LUN

Danube of Thought

I am not at all sure that this Obama fraud is going to fall into any sort of public disfavor, but I pray that I'm wrong. Dorothy Rabinowitz thinks he will, and she's awfully perceptive. God I hope she's right. LUN

bad

Betsy's Page has good info on learning the right lessons from the Great Depression and not repeating government mistakes of that era. LUN

Danube of Thought

I'm really intrigued by the Time Magazine article to which Bad linked just above. I think it would be good for the country (and for Obama's presidency) if the author's premise is correct, but I have my doubts. Perhaps people will be awakened to the reality that this is the Man Who Voted Present, a guy who has never run anything in his life, has zero executive experience and precious little as a legislator. What reason is there to think that this guy is going to do any serious messing with what Pelosi has brought forth? Hope?

bad

DoT, I'd like to believe in Time's premise but O's entire MO has been to straddle everything and commit to nothing. Demanding changes in the Porkulous bill means having to bear responsibility for the effects.

glasater

Bad~

I appreciated the last lines of the Time article:

But if he keeps saying the right things while Washington keeps doing the wrong things, he will be worse than a passive leader: he will be the one who, with all the energies and hope he unleashed, brought the Democrats back to power, broke the legislative log jam, and drowned us all.

Some are waking up.

DOT~

Did not Dorothy Rabinowitz just ever so subtly skewer Zero?
She is the best!

Danube of Thought

I was referring to Bad's 5:34 post.

Jane

I really think something's gotta give DOT. I don't have any idea when and where, but just the pessimism alone is going to sink us.

Danube of Thought

Rabinowitz has been a national treasure for a long time. During the utterly shameful prosecutions and appellate court rulings in the Amirault matter in Massachusetts, she wrote a series of articles for the WSJ that should have won her a Pulitzer, except that her cause was not a fashionable one.

I hope you're right, Jane. But we're all junkies here; my fear is that a large majority in this country thinks that FDR ended the Great Depression, and we should be grateful that Obama is following FDR's lead.

clarice

Rabinowitz is a national treasure.

bad

From The Corner:

Milwaukee Public Schools would reap $88.6 million over two years for new construction under the economic stimulus package just passed by the U.S. House of Representatives - even though the district has 15 vacant school buildings, a large surplus of property and no plans for new construction..

Robert Gibbs would characterize this is as so infintisimal a part of the pork bill that objections are laughable.

No need for new schools but they're going to get them anyway.

clarice

Sen Ben Nelson is the first Dem I think who's spoken out and said Billions in pork need to be stripped out of this bill.O is taking this in the chops for failing to exercise leadership. The bill as written is going down.

narciso

So on the one hand, Carl Cameron, seems to have moved to executive producer on Special Report's Grapevine, they reported the anonymous Republican complaint over the retreat. One the positive side, a clear majority wants the party to be more like Sarah; which means resolute, not willing
to back down, living up to our values of strong defense, tax cuts, family values, and a touch of empathy for the less fortunate. Who did they think they wanted to emulate, McCain, Romney, Crist, Pawlenty.

RichatUF

Gibbs says that 3 decades of public service "erases" tax cheating

Where does Spiro Agnew go and get an apology?

Amused bystander

Bad: Maybe they could consider Jessica Simpson?

bad

Maybe they could consider Jessica Simpson?

To replace Gibbs? Or were you referring to O refusing to notice pork except for Jessica's alleged?

Amused bystander

Bad: Gibbs

Jane

Hey don't worry, Daschle says it was all "inadvertent" and Rockefeller chimes in to say it's a "moral necessity" to get him in there.

Nothing to see here.

JM Hanes

bad:

"Time magazine thinks O and his team set up the porkulous bill"

I think Time magazine is touting on any conceivable silver lining they can make up in Obama's defense. A huge chunk of what's in the bill reads like Obama's domestic agenda. I'd say Congress is set up to take the heat for it, while the Prez can pretend he's just pushing for rapid response to the financial crisis.

narciso

Seriously, could she do a worse job than Gibb, who is starting to make McClellan seem dangerously competent; they do seem
follow the 'mushroom school ofcommunication'
with him.

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