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kim

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any nation that met Kyoto targets. It was absurd to begin with, as our Senate clearly and unanimously agreed, and any stricter replacement will also similarly fail.

Besides, it's all completely unnecessary. The globe is cooling and CO2 has an undetermined role in climate, but it is obvious that that role has been desperately exaggerated.

This issue is going to be big politically. Encumbering carbon cripples economic recovery. The administration faces a quandary. Let's hope they can accept reality, and deal with it.
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Bill in AZ

But CO2 does have a very important role in our existence.  Considering we are in a period of relative "CO2 Famine" (icecap - see Feb 25, 2009 article, there does not appear to be a direct link), all of this flailing and arm waving by Gorebots will look like, well, the witchdoctoring it is, a few years hence.  Wait, it looks like that right now to most sensible folks.

happyfeet

Clearly absurd. The idea that the relationship of human activity to Earth's climate can be described in a way that doesn't conform with socialist economic principles and policy prescriptions is laughable, and the suggestion that it's somehow incumbent upon Barack Obama to accept reality is offensive I think.

someguy

>>>The administration faces a quandary.

No they don't. Rahm "Let no crisis go to waste" Emmanuel is in charge of policy. The only question is how much government control can be exerted over the private sector in the next 8 years using the pretext of global warming - how much can they get away with before the lumpenproles and kulaks revolt in numbers sufficient to force change. It's a quandary only insofar as the question "do we want to control a lot of the economy or all of it?" presents a resource challenge to any regulatory regime, but other than that I don't see any real problems arising for the administration on this front. The media is in the bag, the government-money-seeking professoriate is in the bag, and those who will benefit from government largess are in the bag.

Chris

Let's hope they can accept reality, and deal with it.

Not on your life. Reality is not a river in Egypt. Al Gore cultists and cute puppies hardest hit.

Jim

Great post.

Old Lurker

But the new budget anticipates 2012 $79B in fed revenues from the cap & trade... so who cares what the facts are? Add that tax to the others.

Ranger

and the suggestion that it's somehow incumbent upon Barack Obama to accept reality is offensive I think.

Posted by: happyfeet | February 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I don't think you meant that comment to be as illuminating about the left's outlook or as funny as it.

Syl

Some of you seem to believe that pushback is useless. Don't give up.

The earth's climate is on our side and it will become more and more obvious. The hysteria from the warmers these last few weeks is obvious as well and they're crossing the line into even more absurdity. Point it out whenever you see it.

Don't give up!

Boatbuilder

I think that happyfeet did mean both, Ranger.


Welcome aboard, happy--hope you'll stick around.

Korla Pundit

Yes, but haven't you heard that the imminent ICE AGE is a CRISIS! We need to act NOW; no time for debate!!!


steveaz

This dissenting report ought to paint a big moustache on AGW's popular facade. Thing is, though, most voters who voice support for the AGW-hypothesis do so in order to reinforce their other patronage relationships, so mere rational debunking may not work.

If you're a supplicant to a state-agency, or to a state-mediated student loan program, or to a state's welfare-subsidies, then AGW provides that tertiary, complimentary issue that allows you to vote for your wardens' over-arching, statist agenda without requiring that you ever ponder your imprisonment.

This is not an accident. This "hook" has been carefully formulated to appeal to the urban indigent who desires the veil that flagrant "concern about the environment" offers to counterbalance the guilt she derives from depending on others for social and financial sustenance.

If by "saving the planet" a blood-sucking flea could effectively prevent his host-doggie (in this case, the American taxpayer) from scratching him off, he'd have a pretty good gig, huh? The reflex to scratch gets suppressed lest the host be called a "denialist," and the junkie can rest assured she'll get her regular 'fix' for free.

This is AGW's psycho-electoral function in a nut-shell. The Japanese report is welcome push in the right direction, but it'll take a lot more shoves like it to topple this behemoth.

jdm

Trust me. Happy knew exactly what he was writing.

steveaz

Yup! Happy's not a rogue reprobate with a keyboard and license to "type while drunk."

He's a deft spin-meister and he's 'gainst those filthy socialists, so, me, I likes him.

If a colorful, incite-ful comment could serve as a revolutionary's battle-banner, Happy can sew a mean flag, too. In this he could be the "Betsy Ross" of the new Constitutionalists rebellion underway.

Keep 'em coming, 'feets.

Martha Washington of


Daddy

Well the good news is that because of the worldwide economic slowdown, my company, and many other airline companies, are canceling flights and mothballing airplanes all around the globe, so we'll all burn less gas and make less CO2 and Gaia will be happy, happy, happy! Plus, because of the massive loss of revenue our CEO's will have less greedy shindigs, and it'll be easier for tons of us Airline Employees to make way less than $250,000, so obviously our personal income taxes won't go up. Therefore even though everything is going to hell in a handbasket, I'm happy to know I'm doing my part to help the New World Order. I believe this link applies.

Daddy

Oh, and the Aurora Borealis has been lousy at altitude the last couple years. Are we still blaming that on the Sun's current period of weak solar wind output, or has Nobelist Gore and his crackpot scientists figured out a way to blame that on we Capitalist Pigs yet?

Fen

You won't hear much from the Obama administration because, while Global Warming has always been about redistribution of wealth via limits on energy consumption and production, the US is now getting there from a different angle.

Thomas Esmond Knox

Get onto the details of the crashed satellite launch. Some reports say the first attempt to accurately measure atmospheric CO2 worldwide. Who knew?

Alan

Let's hope there will be another attempt at launching another satellite to accurately measure atmospheric CO2 worldwide.

kim

Yes, Alan, we need that bird to better understand the carbon cycle, however, those satellites take awhile to build. We may get one and we may not. By the time another could be launched we'll either have broken the paradigm that CO2=AGW or the earth's CO2 and its people will be enslaved by an unholy alliance of the greedy and autocratic. In either case, the need to understand carbon will be somewhat lessened.
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kim

someguy at 12:02 PM. You have a point. This issue may be a good bellweather as to the bona fides of this administration. Oh, why do I wonder?

Syl, nice to see you here, and I agree. The warmistas are swarming, and desperate. Some of them can see the full expression of the CO2=AGW paradigm politically just within reach, exactly as the globe is cooling and skeptical sentiment rising.

I remember telling Dano last year that he had a chance to become a famous fool; all he had to do was stop restraining himself as the paradigm collapses. And Naomi Oreskes, what a story. Tobacco tar causes cancer, but CO2 doesn't cause catastrophic climate change.
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Cryos

"Get onto the details of the crashed satellite launch. Some reports say the first attempt to accurately measure atmospheric CO2 worldwide. Who knew?

Posted by: Thomas Esmond Knox"

yeah I find the whole satellite thing hilarious. The left says we need to spend trillions of dollars to fight AGW but then they won't even try to replace a monitoring satellite? LOL

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