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bishop

Does Evan Thomas, ever think he's not going to face 'carousel' in the LUN

bishop

Sorry, wrong LUN, got a strange case of deja vu

Original MikeS

Dare one wonder what other whacky "cost-savings" the government will come up with?

The government will take a "professional approach" to this problem. They will put the same group who figured out the "efficacy" policy on kidney treatment into a room with lots of pencils and sharpeners.

It is really a small price to pay to make sure poor people don't have to suffer the embarrassment of receiving medical care that they can't afford pay for.

bishop

It's the same folks who designed the group of flats for the Monty Python sketch

Jack is Back!

Evan Thomas' owns a bus? Who'd have known that.

Was just listening to Fox Business and the interview with the CEO of Eli Lilly. They are going to reduce from 40,500 employees to 35,000 by 2011. Want to find $1 billion. Probably to pay the VAT on their two new Alzheimer drugs. Is this a great country, or what?

clarice

bishop, were I Evan's mom, I'd want to die,too. The sooner the better.

bishop

Agreed, Clarice, sometimes the callousness of these people just blows me away. Would she have been Norman Thomas's daughter

bishop

Hey, Rush just referred to your AT piece, Clarice

Ignatz

Is it certain that paying for the anti rejection drugs is cheaper in the long run?
Those on dialysis have a pretty poor prognosis.
Much like the fact that smokers save the system money in the long run by dying conveniently early and fairly quickly this may just be another smart rationing move by our benevolent government.
But please do not call it a "death panel", that would be a lie.
It's more of a "after we give you hope and keep you healthy for a couple of years, go over there and crawl in a hole and waste away until you die" kind of a panel.

SWarren

Congrats, Clarice
Rush is all over your article. He's on fire.

Rick Ballard

OMS,

Astute comment - it's really a "quality of life" issue for the improvident. I believe that the policy that Michelle was pursuing in Chicago regarding simply turning away the poor from any medical treatment best suits the progressive vision. Aside from providing abortions, of course. No progressive would ever pass up the opportunity to kill the truly helpless prior to birth - just think of the money saved by not ever having to "treat" them ever again! Why, the savings from the death panels not having to meet to give the thumbs down to gramps or granny when their societal utility has been expended alone pays for killing them before (or shortly after) they draw that first expensive breath.

Porchlight

That's an interesting case. Alport syndrome is an X-linked recessive disease like hemophilia and color blindness, carried by but rarely present in females. A friend's brother has it and received a kidney transplant from his dad.

clarice

Thanks--I missed it but several people have told me of it..I'll listen to it later I suppose.

clarice

bishop, Evan's patronymic is Thomas.His father is Norman Thomas' son.

Jane the lynchpin

Sheesh Clarice, I just heard Rush give your full name (30 minutes after bishop heard it) You are such a celebrity.

(I had dinner with her Sat nite Rush - so eat your heart out!)

Captain Hate

I just heard Rush mention Clarice's article also.

Jack is Back!

Clarice, his sister founded the first Long Island vineyard with her hippie husband back in the early 70's then they sold it for a small fortune. Do you want to bet being good left wing socialista's that they gave most of the bounty away to those unfortunate like her Mom?

Old Lurker

Clarice is a Rock Star!

clarice

For a reasonable fee Mr PUK will send you autographed photos..I tuned in late after I got come heads ups from friends..He credited me with my own stuff AND with the words of another poster..(Yesterday on Lucianne some poster confused me with the far superior Claudia Rossett..A female online Zelig, I am.)

clarice

Jack, all the socialists I know are rich--generally married rich folks--kinda like Kerry. As I said about the spies the Myers, and the eco-celebs, the want to make sure no one's gaining socially and economically on them.

clarice

Kaus:
"WaPo reports that in the days after Obama's speech, the Dem health care plan was opposed by a 48 to 46 margin--versus a 50-45 margin in mid-August. ... From five points down to two points down. That's all he got for playing the joint-session-prime-time-address card? Does that seem like enough to you? ... P.S.: "[S]eniors remain solidly opposed to health-care reform, and the number who think government involvement would do more harm than good continues to rise ... " 2:44 A.M."

Jack is Back!

Clarice,

In case you have the stomach to read her essay here this pretty much explains how you start a vineyard in Long Island.
LUN

It is now Castello di Borghese (from rags to riches).

Jack is Back!

Just read Rasmussen: ObamaCare got a big bounce to where 52% of likely voters favor the plan. That is only going to embolden The Once and his comrades in the Red Palace (Congress).

/God bless America, please.

Bill in AZ

Re: Rasmussen bounce:
Every conservative they attempted to poll this weekend was in DC.

bishop

A very strange sample, the Washington Post is more down the line than Rasmussen,


My first experience with reading Thomas & Isaacson was there rather reverential look
at the establishment, the Wise Men, the attitude they revealed toward the GOP and
the Alger Hiss case, is textbook to what
we see written here today in their respective journals

Janet

I just got a letter from the NYT selling home delivery....I slipped a note in the postage paid return envelope saying, "You've got to be kidding".

clarice

I keep thinking that I ought to cancel our WaPo subscription (my husband needs that sports page in the morning), but then I read they lose $1.10 on each paper every day. Maybe we should all buy several subscriptions.

Ignatz

This is OT, but it's just the kind of short, perfectly constructed and reasoned essay, The Gathering Storm by David Warren , that is read years after the fact as a tragically unheeded prophecy.
Saw it at at RCP via Hotair.

clarice

O just heard Rush quoting the article again, but he's quoting the work of the person who wrote another portion of it..O can't fo anything about it. I feel bad for the co-author.

Frau Millionen Marsch

Bill in AZ nails it, folks! Those *not* in D.C. were out attending their local protests, n'est pas?
Rush came back to Clarice again (who wouldn't?), and he just came back a third time. With six, we get egg rolls!
Dang. It's too early to take a drink every time Rush mentions Clarice..

clarice

Pass the brodchen, frau..I'll dig the brats and mustard, beer and sauerkraut out of the refrigerator.

Porchlight

Can someone please help me out reading Rasmussen? I think I'm going crazy.

Here is the summary page about the healthcare poll and an excerpt:

Health Care Reform

Fifty-one percent (51%) of all voters nationwide now favor the plan while 46% are opposed. In June, as the public debate was just beginning, 50% favored the plan and 45% were opposed.

Support for the plan fell over the summer and reached a point where 53% of voters opposed it. However, in the days following the president’s speech, support for the plan has been moving up on a fairly consistent basis.

Still, the intensity gap continues to favor those who oppose the plan. Currently, 28% Strongly Favor the proposed reform while 38% are Strongly Opposed. (see day-by-day numbers). In late August, 23% were strongly in favor of the plan and 43% were strongly opposed.

Now look at the linked Toplines page:

Toplines: Health Care - September 11-12, 2009

1* Generally speaking, do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose or strongly oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and the congressional Democrats?

Sept 11-12, 2009

Strongly favor: 30%
Somewhat favor: 18%
Somewhat oppose: 8%
Strongly oppose: 40%
Not sure: 3%

On the page, those numbers read across, but you get the picture.

So by my reading:

Strongly favor - 30% plus somewhat favor 18% = Overall favor 48%

Strongly oppose - 40% plus somewhat oppose 8% = Overall oppose 48%

That leaves it at 48-48, with 3% not sure.

Where does the 51-46 number come from?

For that matter, where does the 28% Strongly Approve vs. 38% Strongly Oppose (from the summary excerpt) come from?

Please tell me what I'm missing...


clarice

Taranto:
"A growing protest movement on the small-government right is remarkable development. As we've noted many times in the past, the left has had an extensive protest culture and infrastructure for decades. The right, with the exception of abortion opponents, had nothing of the sort until this year.

Yet there is a common thread between the tea partiers and the liberal protest movements of olden times--at least the two successful ones. Civil rights protesters demanded for blacks the same freedom that their fellow citizens enjoyed, and opposition to the Vietnam War would not have become a mass movement but for then-young people's desire to end the military draft. Thus in contrast to later, merely obnoxious left-wing protests, their primary focus was on individual freedom, just as the tea partiers' is. "

matt

Ignatz;

that was an excellent post, thanks.

Janet

yeah Ignatz - great link to the Warren article.

matt

what we a re facing is Political Alternative Reality Syndrome (PALS). We have the politicians and the media simply going na na na na and covering their ears.

There are huge stories out there; Iran, North Korea, the health care mess, etc. and the media are asleep at the wheel. LUN

Jane the lynchpin

I need an ACRONYM.

It was abundantly clear to me that the politicians in DC, for the most part, think what applies to us, does not apply to them - whether it is laws, or benefits or parking spaces, or access or anything else.

So I'm going to start a group that demands that all politicians are subject to the exact same laws as the rest of us. No pensions - let them have 401k's. No special health care. No special parking spots at Dulles - and on and on and on. Voting for them is contingent on them agreeing to vote for such legislation (which I believe Jim DeMint would sponsor).

I need an acronym to get it rolling. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

And I plan to make it a theme of my radio show.
Thanks

Pagar

"We have the politicians and the media simply going na na na na and covering their ears."

"Government- Spending- is the solution, Not the Problem"

Article

It looks like someone doesn't have the word yet, more marches may be needed.

sylvia

One thing I just started reading up on is TennCare. There's an article in Wiki on it. Also LUN. Tenncare is sort of a combo Dem idea on coverage and the GOP idea to just help the poor and the uninsured. Didn't seem to work out too well either.

People started cheating to pretend they had low income to get on it, swelling the rolls. Another is that TennCare had better benefits than private, which is prob why people cheated to get on it. They had a swelling presciprtion drug coverage problem, which according to the article was a lot of pain pills. It was not well managed with doctors getting shafted. Lots of problems there. They made some changes and toned it down recently, didn't really read how it's doing now.

So some lessons, make sure the benefits are worse than private to provide a disincentive to be on it. Make it bare bones. Also charge money for it. Make the premiums almost comparable to private. If not, have very strict income requirements.

SWarren

Rush just referred to your article again Clarice. This time he did credit Roslyn as well. You are so spot on regarding the strength and mission of this movement.

Charlie (Colorado)
jean

CLARICE.does your husband know about you and Rush?

pagar

The link I posted at 2:42PM doesn't work and I can't find any way to link to the article. It is on the Yahoo Finance Main Page right now and is by University of Texas professor James Galbraith.
I believe it shows how far apart the two sides are on the economy. All the money has been spent. Where is the government going to dig up enough to solve our problems by:

""Government- Spending- is the solution, Not the Problem" "

clarice

Heh, Charlie, I linked it before you did and it's YOUR piece.

jean--....---Hush about Rush.


Jane, I'm thinking but that may be a job for HIT

Thomas Collins

Whatever the crowd, it sounds as if Lynchpin and the other Tea Party Community Organizers did a great job (why should the left have a monopoly on the term "Community Organizer"). I'm sorry I couldn't make it.

clarice

Jane, what about One Law For All (OLFA)?,m,m,m,m

Jane the lynchpin

Not bad Clarice, not bad at all!

matt

Jane;

Just Like Us?

End Congressional Entitlements Now (ECEN)? Or ECE?

clarice

What do you think I get all the big bucks for, Jane?

hit and run

Eh, it doesn't quite capture it.

But it is JOM Approved!

Congressional Accountability for Rights Parity

Jack is Back!

Jane,

D.A.I.S - N.A.I.D

(Do As I Say - Not As I Do)

Regarding the size of the 9/12 crowd I am still working on a grid analysis based on the roof top surveillance cam, some Google earth overlays and just waiting for the WMATA statistics on ridership for that day - both Rail and Bus. The previous Saturday WMATA rail had 300,963 riders and WMATA bus had 236,347. That is basically consistent with Saturday ridership in August. About 45% of weekly ridership considering vacations and back to school.

Anyone who has ever been to DC knows that driving there is a real hassle (especially parking). Now I know a lot of the folks came on charter buses but I would wager at least half came from the Maryland/Virginia suburbs as well as surrounding states where you either drive down and park at satellite parking in the burbs or by train and plane. In other words a big spike in Metro ridership may give us some idea of crowd size since a lot of the people stayed and extra day and moved around. But it will be interesting to see the spike. WMATA only has ridership stats up to the 9th so far. Will keep everyone informed.

If anyone was there and counted the buses that would help also.

Janet

or steal back some of the words the left has hijacked, like equality. The Equality Bill.

Sue

I just read that there was a bust in NYC of a "man made disaster" ring.

Sue

Truthfully, they called it a terrorist ring. But in keeping with Obama's dictate, I reworded it.

Jack is Back!

Sue,

Will it require us to launch an "overseas contingency operation"?

Sue

I doubt it. We will probably wind up apologizing to them.

Jane

I like it Matt, but it doesn't slip off the tongue, which would be preferable -

I'd love it to be CARP but we need to work on the words -

Congressional A--holes reeledin patriotically doesn't work either.

Jack is Back!

Clarice's link above about ACORN reminds me that if you want a recession proof job then learn to become a successful "grant writer" and hire yourself out to apply for all the free money in DC. In fact, there are firms on K street that do it for big bucks. I wonder who ACORN uses? Any way to find out?

centralcal

JiB: Over the weekend, one of the Fox reporters claimed there were 450 buses.

Yeah, I know it's still the media, and they get everything wrong.

PeterUK

Jane,
Congressional Allowances Reduced to Parity.

Porchlight

I doubt it. We will probably wind up apologizing to them.

Maybe they're freed Gitmo detainees, and we already have.

DebinNC

This site claims that as of 8/27 4500 charter bus permits had been issued (min. 250,000 people).

Jack is Back!

As I have mentioned before (taking a page out of the Obama playbook) not only the head count of those that made it but a SWAG on those who didn't come for various reasons. If Obama's stimulus "saved" jobs from being lost then I can guess at how many didn't come because of work, cost, other commitments, sickness, immobility etc. but wanted to come or share the same citizen concerns.

/getting good for the gander

SWarren

CARP--Citizens Against Ruler's Perks

CACA--Citizens Against Congressional Aggrandizement

centralcal

DebinNC - thanks for the bus info. I didn't realize when I quickly posted earlier that I left off a zero. 4500 was what Fox reported.

Janet

SWarren those are good!

Jane - for some even, umm, "edgier" ones you could put forth your request over at Ace of Spades H Q LUN

matt

I like the sparkle touch, PUK....it's all in the details....

Thomas Collins

I guess federal aid to ACORN now gives new meaning to the term "stimulus" funds!

Sara (Pal2Pal)
“Until a full investigation is launched into ACORN, no taxpayer money should be used to fund its activities. A vote in favor of my amendment is a vote in favor of the taxpayer and a vote against the status quo.”

Johanns Amendment #2355 to HR3288 passes Senate 83 to 7.

Ignatz

Here's the Hotair link to Sara's story about the Senate voting to cut off money to ACORN. Amazing.
Balls in your court Nancy.

SWarren

Sara, that's great news. I want to see the names of the 7 nay votes.

rse

How about the "Bridge the Inequality Program" or BIP?

Those of us funding it would like to cross the bridge we paid for?

pagar

Michelle Malkin says Sen Durbin is a NO. doesn't have the others up yet. IMO, it is going to take a whole lot more work to get ACORN investigated properly. My first suggestion would be a reward fund for proven correct info showing fraud in their organization.

Ignatz

No's:

•Dick Durbin (D-IL)
•Roland Burris (D-IL)
•Robert Casey (D-PA)
•Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
•Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
•Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
•Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)

Mary Wyss

Can we find a way to use MACACA?

March Against Congressional Aggrandizement....

Ignatz

Posted this once but it never showed on my screen. Sorry if it's a repeat.
No's:

•Dick Durbin (D-IL)
•Roland Burris (D-IL)
•Robert Casey (D-PA)
•Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
•Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
•Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
•Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)


bgates

Let
Every
Voter
Experience
Law,
Even
Representatives

MayBee

Isn't it weird that Obama's home staters voted to keep the Acorn cash flowing?

bgates

Follow
All
Imposed
Rules

bgates

EQual
Under
All
Legislation

(ok, that's cheating, but 'q' is hard)

PeterUK

bgates,
There is an historical precedence for Levellers,but not a happy one.

PeterUK

Campaign Against Indiscriminate Remuneration.

Might bring in the money.

clarice

People will join those La. Acorn 8 who are talking and Giles and O"Keefe will become national heroes.

royf

I was watching Fox News earlier and they reported that the NYC Bureau which handles organized crime is opening a investigation into ACORN in NYC.

clarice

The Washington Examiner had a report today which I blogged that ACORN had filed 2 grant requests totaling $6 million..HEH

And they were counting on a lot more from HUD out of the stimulus package.

PO, why bother with wheat--you and Cathyf set up a rural emplowerment program and get money to run it...

hit and run

I'm getting right with Breitbart starting today.

Andrew is, by all evidence, the new leader of the Republican Party Dark Sith Lord.

caro

Clarice, can we bask in your glory? I heard Rush say your name 5! times today.

Here are some pics for you.

SWarren

Can we find a way to use MACACA?

Mobilizing Allied Coalition Against Congressional Aggrandizement

bgates

PUK, I'm not feeling particularly happy right now.

caro

JULIUS

JUst LIke US.

clarice

caro, thanks for those great pics..

Jane

Congressional Allowances Reduced to Parity.

CARP--Citizens Against Ruler's Perks

CACA--Citizens Against Congressional Aggrandizement

Mobilizing Allied Coalition Against Congressional Aggrandizement

How about the "Bridge the Inequality Program" or BIP?

CARP--Citizens Against Ruler's Perks

CACA--Citizens Against Congressional Aggrandizement


Let
Every
Voter
Experience
Law,
Even
Representatives

Campaign Against Indiscriminate Remuneration.

JULIUS

JUst LIke US

Mobilizing Allied Coalition Against Congressional Aggrandizement

I love it all. I also just had 4 cocktails so I will have to revisit in the AM.

hit and run

OH CARO!!! How wonderful!!!!

Barbara

How about SPA -

Spread the Perks Around

Porchlight

Wow, that is some news about ACORN and the Senate. It sounds like there is a very big shoe ready to drop and the Senate has gotten wind of it. Kohl, Lautenberg and Udall even changed their votes from nay to yea when they saw which way the thing was falling!

hit and run

Hey Caro...we need the BEST, highest resolution "Crush ACORN's Nuts" sign you got....ASAP!!!

If it's too big to post here, can you put it on your photobucket, or email it???

It's a perfect night for that pic to go ... viral.

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