Memeorandum


Powered by TypePad

« Although I Am Not A Lawyer | Main | This Isn't Brain Surgery »

October 01, 2009

Comments

bishop

Not really that surprising, he was a hawk on the Soviets, but when it comes to the Middle East, maybe the 1980s approach to the Mullahs, was a feature not a bug. Since then, he's shown a reluctance to confront the Revolutionary Guards, to hold on to our hard fought gains in Iraq, and now signals
surrender in Afghanistan, dissapointing but
not surprising.

drjohn

How is Gates better positioned to know than is McChrystal, the man they chose specifically because he is supposed to be the expert?

Jack is Back!

This is a very difficult military problem and Gates and Jones look like they want more time to look at it - both the way McChrystal has presented it and how to re-conceptualize the existing force structure (I am stealing Dr. Steven Metz's (at the Army War College) thunder here.

Thus I have come to the conclusion that this issue is way above Obama's experience and understanding and has been outsourced to Gates, Jones and the JSC with input from Petraeus and his COIN team of experts (maybe even Fred Kagan).

There is a template but it needs to be adjusted for Afghanistan (terrain, different cultures, Pakistan vicinity, AQ and Taliban - very different from the iraqi insurgency, etc.). What happened in March and April has now changed and McChrystal's full report is still embargoed and classified. I'll bet he offers some counter-points to consider that may have rising to the top of the discussion agenda.

George Will call your office!

sbw

Yes! No! Wait! No! Door number 2! No! Wait!

bishop

The problem is Jones, has had his duties outsourced to Rhodes and MacDonough, and they have a decidedly negative view of the situation. I would assume that Petraeus the
other counterinsurgency strategist, did provide imput into his report from his base
in Doha, Kagan seems on board, so is General
Keane who was the key go-between

Porchlight

Somewhat related - for those of you who have been disappointed in Krauthammer lately, here's something good from the Corner:

On the positive achievements of the Obama administration:
To me, that is a lightning round question, but I will dig deep and I will give him credit for continuing the Bush policy of the rendition and detention without trial.

Rendition is handing over a bad guy that you capture abroad over to another country, which was denounced by the left in the Bush years as inhuman. And detention without trial, of course, was attacked by the Democratic left as a rape of the constitution.

So I'm glad Obama is continuing the inhumanity and the constitutional rape of the Bush administration. It shows a certain broadmindedness.

(LAUGHTER)

I will give him credit for one other thing, for having so depleted his political capital on health care that he really doesn't have the charisma and political resources now to do a lot of mischief.

PD

OT: Sarah still #1 on Amazon.

Original MikeS

It might be prudent to tamp down expectations.

The leaked 66 page report was a summary of a 24 month plan. While the plan did not specifically exclude the northern and western areas of Afghanistan, it was described as a geographically limited plan that would emphasize the urban areas between Khost and Kandahar. In addition to population protection, the plan stresses information (propaganda) action and training of Afghan forces. It envisions and end state where Afghan forces (army and national police) are nearing 400 thousand with much improved control and collaboration between them and our forces.

Perhaps the Administration genuinely wants another plan. As a layman I have difficulty imagining a plan that would be in the middle between McChrystal's plan and Biden's plan. I suppose you could futher limit McChrystal's plan to a smaller geographic area, but it would then be more susceptible to wack a mole tactics of the Taliban.



bishop

Exactly, they're likely to scale down instead of scaling up, and when the
resources aren't there, they won't
remember that fact, much like the
Downing plan (heavily special forces
dominant)and the other plan, and then
the unobtainable Shinseki plan, was suggested as a solution.

SWarren

Sorry to go O/T but this should make every American irate.

Harry Reid’s shenanigans at LUN.

A Bill that represents one seventh of the economy will not be voted as a stand-alone bill. We have a rogue Congress that serves Obama rather than the American people.

matt

Remember, Petraeus had to go over Gates and the entire JCS heads directly to Bush to implement the Surge. Bush specifically established this relationship with his theater commander.

Of course, since it worked and it wasn't their idea, they will not support a similar strategy again. Frankly, Casey has been waiting for payback. He doesn't like Petraeus, and the Special Ops guys have always been outsiders.

This is seriously screwed up. Our leaders will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

SWarren

Oops! LUN

Hell's a Poppin', Hockey Sticks a Shockin'.

Bamiyan, Oh Bamiyan.
=============

Strawman Cometh

Gates on cnn Sunday was very disappointing.

KING: We're about out of time. I want to ask you a couple quick questions in closing. One is, do you see any chance now, because of the delays in the political problems, that the administration will keep its promise to close Gitmo, the Guantanamo Bay detention center, in one year, as promised?

GATES: Well, I think -- I think it has proven more complicated than anticipated. I will be the first to tell you that, when the president-elect's national security new team met in Chicago on December 7th, I was one of those who argued for a firm deadline. Because I said that's the only way you move the bureaucracy in Washington.

And you have to extend that date, if at least you have a strong plan, showing you're making progress in that direction, then it shouldn't be a problem to extend it. And we'll just see whether that has to happen or not.


KING: And lastly, you served eight presidents. What makes this one unique, or is there anything unique when it comes to these decisions of war and peace?

GATES: He is very analytical. He's very deliberate about the way he goes through things. He wants to understand everything. He delves very deeply into these issues. I'm not going to get into comparing the different presidents. I very much enjoy working for this one.

He is the good soldier, but WTF?

bishop

This was the piece on the other thread,that suggested what his likely replacement would be, in the LUN. Btw the author of this WSJ
piece, Yochi Dreazin, is always yelling quagmire, he did so in Iraq even during the
surge, and authored the supposed
'Afghanistan is lost' line attributed to MacChrystal.

Now there's a firm definition of 'firm'.

SC, he's just holding the mirror for him.
========================

Which would make Yochi Dreazin the Family Guy.

Isn't Quagmire Family Guy's neighbor.
=======================

bishop

That why I used lowercase quagmire, historically there is a basis for this, much more than in Iraq

cheryl hightower

Just another weak Obamabot afraid to make a decision.
How does that saying go,a weak man worries about his decisions before he makes them,a strong man worries about them after he makes them.

And the Brits are our partners in this.

They were both quagmires for the British, they don't have to be for us. Our ambitions are not imperial, only civilly hegemonic.
===================================

Rob Crawford

Isn't Quagmire Family Guy's neighbor.

Giggity.

Barbara

test

bishop

Seems MacChrystal is more on the ball, from this LUN

Original MikeS

If Obama refuses McChrystal's troop request, Repubs will attack him mercilessly on the Democrat dovishness issue that has haunted Dems since Vietnam, and on breaking his campaign promise to win in Afghanistan. Mounting casualties will earn Obama attacks from the left.

I am concerned that Obama hasn't spoken recently (Gates has) about what a catastrophe a perceived loss for the U.S. in Afghanistan would be for the war against terrorists.

Jane

I'm dubious about Afghanistan because we have a weak commander in chief. I mean really, who wouldn't be?

Jack is Back!

So, he is in London on his way back to the Stan. That means tomorrow in Copenhagen, the Once makes his pitch but does he stick around to hear the results or does he and Michelle have their anniversary in the Bagram OC? Why go to Copenhagen to make the pitch but not stay to hear the results? Or, he is hearing Boehner's comments and deciding that the Stan is more important than the O-Lympics?

My money is on where he believes his image is less tarnished and makes him look like a leader and executive. My guess is he comes home to be on all the Sunday talk shows and takes Michelle to dinner and a show in New York.

Bill in AZ

"He is very analytical. He's very deliberate about the way he goes through things. He wants to understand everything. He delves very deeply into these issues."

You have to read a lot of OER's (Officer Evaluation Reports) to know how to translate these into civilian english.

Translation:
"It takes a long time for Zero to cut through the fog of misfiring and crossfiring cocaine addled synapses to understand anything we're telling him, and then even longer to come up with any kind of response."

Strawman Cometh

"He was speaking in Britain — America’s close ally in Afghanistan — a day after he had participated by video link from London in a White House strategy session on the war that included President Obama, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and an array of senior advisers."

God, ya gotta wonder how many times McChrystal cut the outbound video feed as he bangs his head in on table.
I do hope McChrystal keeps good notes on these meetings for his book.

Pofarmer

Speaking of a Jones. Van Jones, Glenn Beck reported, is now employed by the Center for American Progress.

Captain Hate

Strawman you gotta admire McChrystal's ability to keep a straight face whenever Biden makes an invariably inane comment. If it were me I'd find a body double and be in an adjoining room doing shots.

Original MikeS

McChrystal: "A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position is probably a short-sighted strategy.”

This was the most appealing thing to me in the summary. My understanding is that it called for existing Afghan military as well as new recruits to be COIN trained and experienced working alongside U.S. forces on COIN missions. This training and experience would enable Afghan forces to absorb another 60K troops who would have only basic training, bringing total of Afghan Army and National Police to nearly 400 thousand.

What happens after that was unmentioned.

Original MikeS

What happens after that was unmentioned.

But COIN training for Afghan troops would be unnecessary if the insurgency wasn't ongoing.

PeterUK

" He is very analytical. He's very deliberate about the way he goes through things. He wants to understand everything. He delves very deeply into these issues."

Avoids, nicely,any real positive praise. A nice euphemism for "Dumb as a wrestler's jockstrap".

bio mom

I know Gates is popular with Republicans but he has always seemed a little bit political to me. Kind of a go along with the powers that be kind of guy. Maybe that isn't fair to him. But it's how he makes me feel.

Rick Ballard

I think that's 'O-limpdics' but I may have misread...

Original MikeS

Gates did speak out against Biden's plan and a "perceived loss" in Afghanistan that jihadists could spin as a victory.

I think Gates can do more good if he stays out from under the President's bus.

sammy small

McChrystal: "A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position is probably a short-sighted strategy.”

How about: A strategy that does not deal effectively with Pakistan is probably a short-sighted strategy

sbw

How about: A strategy that is not principled is probably a short-sighted strategy.

clarice

Rick, get over here this minute! *THWACK*

RichatUF

Sorry for going ot, but I was curious what Obama had to say about the 2007 NIE when it came out.

Obama's comments on the 2007 NIE on Iran:

"By reporting that Iran halted its nuclear weapon development program four years ago because of international pressure, the new National Intelligence Estimate makes a compelling case for less saber-rattling and more direct diplomacy. The juxtaposition of this NIE with the president's suggestion of World War III serves as an important reminder of what we learned with the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq: members of Congress must carefully read the intelligence before giving the President any justification to use military force."

"The new National Intelligence Estimate shows that George Bush and Dick Cheney's rush to war with Iran is, in fact, a rush to war. The new NIE finds that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and that Iran can be dissuaded from pursuing a nuclear weapon through diplomacy. This is exactly the reason that we must avoid radical steps like the Kyl-Lieberman bill declaring Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, which needlessly took us closer to war. And it’s why I have proposed that we pursue a comprehensive diplomatic approach instead."

How did they "halt" anything when they were spinning up a covert facility in Qom-I think it might take more than a couple of months to spin up 3000 centrifuges? Don't think I've seen anyone ask Obama about his comments right before his presidential bid?

I'm starting to think that the facility in Qom (and the way it was released by Obama and Iran to the IAEA) is more of a macGuffin to move a corrupt sanctions regime into place as Iran moves ahead (with a wink-and-nod from China and Russia) with other work. But at least Windy Obama will get to hear the sound of his own voice as he lectures the Iranians.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

McChrystal: "A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position is probably a short-sighted strategy.

Probably? Why probably? It is a terrible strategy, short-sighted, long-sighted, or anything in between.

Neo

Can you say “maccaca moment” ?

Jack is Back!

Back on topic:

Found this at Michael Yon. Pretty compelling reading and shows how tough a nut Afghanistan will be for any kind of military operation whether COIN or police action. In fact, it may well be the most enigmatic military problem ever faced by America since Afghanistan has proven over centuries that there no successful solution.

Original MikeS

"A strategy that does not leave Afghanistan in a stable position..."

This comment was made about Biden's plan. It is actually a pretty high bar when you consider the history of Afghanistan.

Rick Ballard

Rich,

I do not believe that there is any prior statement made by His Nullity which will ever be applicable to the present. That would include anything said more than 15 minutes ago as well as anything said in prehistoric times such as 2007.

It's a permanent campaign for him, just as it has been for every deadbeat, worthless, gutter scum that Axelrod has backed. I believe it to be an error to assume that there is any coherent plan or strategy to deal with any particular problem or situation that exists or that may arise. It's all just reaction and evasion - like his involvement in the '16 site decision which just happens to occur on the same day that some very bad employment numbers are going to hit - as even the vampire squid at GS now acknowledge.

It's going to get worse as the news from his mirror on the wall gets worse. A garden slug like Cadillac Deval can hide four days out of seven. Obama's slime trail glistens more brightly every morning.

MayBee

Doesn't Gates publicly have to support his boss's position? Why would he publicly declare a position that Obama doesn't want him to declare?
He supports or resigns, right?

FE

Gates is CIA. He's Air Force and had all those CIA analysts moved to DoD to keep their jobs. They must have solved the operations officer issues giving DoD equal powers to CIA. So, a big surge in CIA to Afghanistan, but that's what it was to begin with the big thing about Pakistan being the real problem instead of Afghanistan. The intelligence committee and dems playing war with NATO and they're known. Gates doesn't want any CIA agents breaking any nails in a real war, so, no, we don't need the troops 'cause Plame is going to save us with CIA like they saved us from 9/11.

Bambi gis going to be Nixon and I'm just going to laugh. The Bambi legacy will be to go hide 'cause he can't lead anything and never could.

Strawman Cometh

So I'm off to help defend John Bolton's 1st amendment rights. I've heard that it is being streamed live, I don't have a link, but it should be near the LUN .

matt

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. LUN

centralcal

Not keeping up with this thread, but...

is it true that Bill Kristol predicts Gates is gone by the end of the year to be replaced with Chucky Hagel?

centralcal


Rumint: Hagel to Replace Gates by End of Year

And be sure to read the update! Holy Moly Martha.

Gotcha.

Hah, cc, he'll really have people out to get him.
===========================

clarice

Gee, CC!

Original MikeS

Is Dick Cheney available?

Semanticleo

Maguire's brief and muted response seems a counterpoint to all the 'fools rush in where wise men fear to tread', Tea-bagged groupthink from the Right.

Didn't y'all larn nothin' from the first nearly five years we banged our heads on the mud walls of Iraq.

"Reckless Disregard' is no way to conduct a war. Sit back and watch while the adults confer on an intelligent response.

That is, if you dislike the idea of sending more troops into an unprepared environment.

Why do you hate the Troops?

bishop

Who in their right mind, who cares about the security of this nation, would sign on with this crew; because they certainly don't. They do the exact opposite, they investigate and if necessary prosecute who
kept us safe all these many years, and they hire the people like Tony West, David Kris, who represented the terrorists. They apochryphally walk out on Karzai, but they
receive gifts from Chavez, listen to Quaddafi and Ahmadinejad harange the world, with nary a complaint

Extraneus

I still say that walk-out story is b.s., bishop. Unless the timeline shows someone having reported it before recently, it seems doubtful the Dems would have tried that while Bush was still the Pres. Now, of course, they'd spit on the guy, like they did on Maliki when he was here.

Extraneus

Another czar bites the dust.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal has seemingly gone from President Obama's counterinsurgency czar to just one among a sea of faces advising him on war policy in Afghanistan.
bishop

I put it that way, apochryphally, who would even suggest that of one of our most important allies. It's well I'm speechless
for once, 'we really dodged a bullet there'

Semanticleo

After all, my imaginary son is still serving in Iraq.

You teabaggers should listen to me! I have ABSOLUTE MORAL AUTHORITY!

(lol... i bitch and moan about you guys not learning anything, yet i come here day after day to spew more bullshit on top of my "son serving in iraq" lie)

Semanticleo

Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said that all must lend a hand
To help reinstall the Taliban
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said we must be fair today
Ignore what the generals have to say
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said that we must take a stand
By abandoning Afghanistan
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said red, yellow, black or white
We'll run away from every fight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama

Barbara

From the start of his tenure under Obama, Gates has sent out all the signals of a political survivor. He demurs, he back tracks, he contradicts his previous statements and positions under the Bush administration with equal ease.

Gates should listen to the military leaders in the field with the expertise to assess the situation and not parrot the popular rhetoric of the far left that drives the Obama administration. Apparently, Obama needs a fall guy for the day that his neglect and mismanagement of Afghanistan reaches critical mass, and McChrystal is not going to play that role.

Unless someone with authority and presence speaks up to challenge Obama, the loss of Afghanistan is predictable. I wonder if this was one of the concessions that Obama made to Putin.

semanticleo

You teabaggers should listen to us douchebaggers,we are the adults. We might fantasize about sons in far off lands,vote in administrations of crooks and simpletons,admire rancid tubs of lard like Moore,O'Donnell or the First Lump,but we won!

Janet

O/T - Ya gotta love the Indian tribes standing up to the environmentalists. via Instapundit

‘Environmentalists are good at identifying problems but poor at identifying feasible solutions,’ Shirley said in a news release. ‘Most often they don’t try to work with us but against us, giving aid and comfort to those opposed to the sovereign decision-making of tribes.’”

Now if only our Nation could shake off the extreme enviros and their lawyers maybe we could produce some energy, and create some jobs.

Charlie (Colorado)

"He is very analytical. He's very deliberate about the way he goes through things. He wants to understand everything. He delves very deeply into these issues."

Bill, I agree with you in principal, but that reads to me more like "He can't make a decision."

PaulL

Like Matt pointed out, Gates was adamantly opposed to the surge. That doesn't say much for him. Well, doesn't say much good for him.

Extraneus

Mmm mmm mmm, that was a good poem.

Charlie (Colorado)

Didn't y'all larn nothin' from the first nearly five years we banged our heads on the mud walls of Iraq.

That would be the five years where you lost vote after vote, until finally a military strategy stabilized Iraq, and which the Obama Administration keeps extending, with rendition, extended surveillance, and the clear intention to continue the GITMO thing, right?

Charlie (Colorado)

Folks, what do you say we wait a few days before starting the "Gates is an Evil RINO and never did anything good, really" chorus? We've been surprised before by news reports that didn't actually correspond to the person's actual statements.

Janet

I agree ChaCo.

Ranger

Lets also not forget that Gates was DCI when the CIA made that bold call that there were clear signs Iraq might invade Kuwait in the near future, about 4 hours after the Iraqi tanks had crossed the border.

Strawman Cometh

John Bolton was asked his opinion of Gates.
his entire answer: "I thought he was a competent bureaucrat, I still think he is a competent bureaucrat."

Charlie (Colorado)

Lets also not forget that Gates was DCI when the CIA made that bold call that there were clear signs Iraq might invade Kuwait in the near future, about 4 hours after the Iraqi tanks had crossed the border.

Dude, that four hours is the closest CIA has come since the 60's.

Melinda  Romanoff

Strawman-

That fits my view precisely. And in fewer words as well.

Sorta like Powell.

Barry Dauphin

Gates appears to have done well with many difficulties in Iraq, notwithstanding the serge being the brainchild of Patreus. I agree with Chaco about let's wait and see. Nonetheless Gates is raising questions in the way he answers questions. The strategy of a few months ago is now being re-thought. OK, but it is was clear that the counterinsurgency strategy would need a lot of time to work. Now he signals backing away from that but not what would replace it and how a different strategy would be good for US safety. He deserves time, but these are confusing signals and sound like a person who is waiting for what his boss decides.

Boatbuilder

Bolton's faint praise of Gates is slightly more cutting, but of the same quality as Gates' faint praise of the Presidebt. My hope is that Gates is playing a deeper game to stay in a position to do some good. My hope is as faint as the praise, unfortunately.

Melinda  Romanoff

Ranger-

Remember. State's own April Glaspie gave Saddam the nod for the 19th province. That should have been a bigger tip off had Foggy Bottom been not so foggy that day.

Have some high quality transcript of her genius (LUN)

matt

I agree with Bolton on Gates, unfortunately. SecDef is a policy and tactical gig. I do not understand his intentions in light of the best professional advice.

In 2006 we decapitated the southern Afghan leadership shortly before they were to launch a Fall offensive to prove that they could fight year round. 18 months later, they did and were very successful. they are now reigning in the real psychos and bandits. they are learning, and they are watching Al Jazeera and CNN every night.

They know the score, and I am going to expect they double down now. They can smell Obama's faltering incompetence.

JM Hanes

biomom:

"I know Gates is popular with Republicans but he has always seemed a little bit political to me."

That's how he has struck me too. I remember being concerned about his appointment. While he never undercut the President the way sleezy Colin Powell did, he seemed careful to cultivate a certain air of independence from the Bush White House. He was part of Jim Baker's Iraq Study Group, and IIRC, was not enthusiastic about the first surge either. I'd bet that Bush just overruled him on that, and that there was no love lost in their relationship. To his credit, I believe Gates worked hard to make the surge a success once the decision was settled, but his name was/is seldom, if ever, mentioned in the backstory about the change in strategy. I'm a little hazy on the precise chronology, but he came into office when things were really bottoming out in Iraq, and it's possible that COIN design was already underway.

In contrast, I wouldn't be surprised if Gates really does enjoy working for Obama who is certainly more impressionable than GWB! When a guy looking for a father figure is the POTUS -- and doesn't know thing number one about military/defense issues -- taking on the role of mentor is surely a gratifying business. So far he's been watching Obama's back on everything from slicing into the DoD budget, to ditching the Poles. I have the impression that there's a major surge of CIA operatives into Af/Pak going on, and given Gates CIA bona fides, I can see him arguing the merits of that approach, or supporting the initiative. I can even see putting Joe Biden on point to do what may essentially be the public polling on a dramatic rework of Afghan policy, with Gates' blessing.

Ann

We're not in Kansas America Anymore, Toto!


Kerry blocks DeMint trip to Honduras

"While this administration has failed to act decisively in Afghanistan, it is has no problem cracking down on a democratic ally and one of the poorest nations in Latin America," DeMint added. "Now, President Obama and Democrats' blind support for this would-be dictator and friend of Hugo Chavez will prevent members of Congress from learning the truth first hand."
PaulL

We'd have lost Iraq were it not for Pres. Bush going against almost all the important people's advice, including the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Condi, and Gates, and ordering the "surge."

Had Bush listened to Gates, we'd have lost Iraq.

Extraneus

I just heard DeMint on Levin about an hour ago talking about this, and he said he expects to leave for Honduras at 6AM tomorrow.

JM Hanes

Ann:

Jim DeMint may be way more conservative than I am, but if you're looking for a guy who is willing to stand up and be counted, you just can't do any better.

There's a lesson there that most of the Republicans in Congress just don't seem to learn. If the Democrats hadn't moved so far left by the end of the Bush Administration, you'd find me at the center of the political spectrum -- and yet I'd vote for DeMint in a heartbeat over a guy who tries to split everything down the middle and won't commit to the passionate defense of what he believes.

PeterUK

"Kerry spokesman Frederick Jones responded Thursday evening that "Senator DeMint’s statement wins an A for ‘audacity.’"

"The Foreign Relations Committee always prefers to operate in a bi-partisan and collegial fashion, and it did so when it approved these two nominees by votes of 14 to 4 for Mr. Shannon and 15 to 4 for Mr. Valenzuela," Jones told The Hill in a statement. "But now Sen. DeMint refuses to let the nominations of two distinguished public servants even be considered on the floor of the Senate."

"When Senator DeMint lifts these holds and allows these individuals to receive an up or down vote on the Senate floor, the Committee will approve his travel to Honduras, a country that is in the middle of delicate, political crisis."

So the fate of a country depends on Democrat nominations.John F. Kerry,once a shit always a shit.

clarice

Hmm, I remember that great comity when the Bolton nomination came up and every limp wristed a hole in State testified against him--remember how he RAISED HIS VOICE for example upon reading their crackpot reports?

JM Hanes

Kerry is suddenly almost as ubiquitous as the Prez. I bet the White House crowd know a guy who will carry their water -- and be grateful for the job -- when they see one. Does anybody think Kerry and Babs Boxer just came up with a new, improved, cap and trade bill all by their lonesomes?

bishop

You forget JM, he can't explain what 'cap and trade' is. But his wife is a major player in the Tides Foundation, that Pittsburgh based (???) honeypot for the Soros network.

centralcal

JMH: I agree with you on Jim DeMint. We could use a whole lot more like him!

Melinda  Romanoff

Teresa stays near Pittsburgh on her farm, with her Heinz surnamed children. Her late husband was also a Senator, just a Republican, John Heinz. Where have I heard that last name before....

bishop

The reason I put the question marks is that the summit, the netroots convention, and the AFL-CIO one all occurred in Chicago with in a few monthes of each other.

As for Yochi Dreazin, he's about as reliable
as Aparism "Bobby" Ghosh, and Michael Ware at Time, Ron Moreau & Mr. Yousafsai (yes of that particular tribe) at Newsweek, in always playing the Salafi press spokesman
and denouncing the American effort, in Iraq,
Pakistan, Afghanistan, now Yemen next

centralcal

This is very OT. However, I know Ann will show up just about the time I depart, so this is just for her and her photo pasting skiils.

The Belles of the Ball

Of course, the pool reporter is the notorious Robin Givahn. She describes the venue, the arrivals . . .

The delegations arrived and sat grouped together stage right. Oprah Winfrey - hair smooth and pulled off her face was dressed in black (sorry, couldn't see the full frock) and seated to the right of Chicago mayor Richard Daley. They were up front although not in the front row.

She then describes some atmospherics before ...

Michelle Obama arrives in a pumpkin satin cocktail dress - full skirt, sleeveless and with criss-crossing straps in the back. No, it is not a warm evening in Copenhagen. But there is no weather in a motorcade. She sits to Oprah's right.

She then blathers on about the evenings entertainment and how they (the press, I presume are shooed out) when the food is served. However, she saves her best observation for last:

Your pool was hustled through the mingling and eating dignitaries. (The food arrived!!!) A Frank Sinatra song "The Lady is a Tramp" is beingcrooned as we make our exit.

Perhaps, just perhaps, the Danes have a sense of irony and humor?

Ann

JMH,

I love Jim DeMint. He gave an outstanding speech at the 9/12 tea party rally. We should try and find a transcript. I am sure you guys were to far away to hear it. It was on C-span and Fox, of course.

Everyday, seems to bring a new obscene Obama administration insult to our country. It is hard to be optimistic but then again, I was delighted to hear this on RUSH today:

"Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin this week will begin accepting and rejecting the more than 1,070 invitations she has received for paid speeches and political appearances since she resigned from office, aides said. Twenty speakers’ bureaus made offers to represent her. ... More than 950 requests for speeches have poured in for Palin, and over 120 candidates for office have asked her to appear, including folks running for Senate, House and state Legislature, aides said."
----
And then the latest news: "A publishing industry source [said] that they 'cannot remember a non-fiction book taking off like this in the pre-order market. It became number one only a couple of hours after nothing more than a date announcement. It is truly unprecedented.'" "Two days after the release date of Sarah Palin's book was announced, it's already become the top seller at both Amazon.com and BarnesandNoble.com," and it hasn't even gone to press yet, or maybe it's at press now.
----
HarperCollins will print 1.5 million copies for the book's first run."


Ann

cc, Don't go yet!

Photobucket

Olympic Gold Home Coming Dress

Melinda  Romanoff

bishop-

You can't bid for the Olympics if there are cudgels and Baby Blue helmuts on the streets within video angles. Anarchists haven't been well received here since Haymarket Square. LUN

Might release some bad karma.

bishop

*<http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1ymYaR1lPEU/SsVPkdItyWI/AAAAAAAAAGA/NpXJe8yOOTs/s1600-h/Larger+Picture.jpg>

Ann

Michelle sacrificing

Photobucket

for the children!

RichatUF

Rick-

Ouch. His slime trail? I knew that his statements were inoperative, just as his statements regarding Afghanistan being "the central front" and the "war Bush forgot". So maybe Bush's approach-keeping a lid on it, genuflecting to political realities, not doing anything which might antagonize Russia, China, India, or Pakistan was the right strategy after all...

Obama was aced out of our two Central Asian airbases, caved without anything on missile defense to Russia, is stupidly firing the first shots of a trade war with China, and is sitting down with Iran over their "peaceful nuclear program" while at the same time looking for a door to get the US out (a door unfortunately being open and shut by Russia and Pakistan). And he hasn't even been sitting in the big chair for a year.

My guess is that NATO starts looking for a door by Thanksgiving and Obama is forced to surge in US forces on a collasping effort.

Melinda  Romanoff

ccal-

You have no idea how sneaky the Danes are. I just wonder if the Queen had cigarettes passed.

bishop

That's um, an interesting choice of attire,
what can I say but Go Rio, also in the LUN.

Melinda  Romanoff

bishop-

OT, but this is the end result of Haymarket Square. Fort Sheridan, where the calvary actually could take their own train to Chicago in about an hour. LUN

The comments to this entry are closed.

Wilson/Plame