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November 23, 2009

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clarice

I hope this over his head president is the last democrat to hold that office in my lifetime.

Old Lurker

...and I hope your lifetime (and my own) is allowed to run for the days allotted to you, Clarice, and not foreshortened to achieve some Federal healthcare budget target.

MayBee

get Iran to do the right thing and fulfill its international obligations.”

The Obama administration keeps saying this, as if it means anything to Iran. If everyone keeps accepting Iran and what they are doing, then what "international obligations" are they supposed to think they have?
And why does Obama think these "obligations" are more important to them than nuclear weapons?

narciso

Because he is an idiot, I know in his progressive lexicon, there is a rationale to this, but you can't reason who thinks the 12th Imam will rise out of the pit, if 1/3 of the world is scorched

hit and run

Word on the street is that Lula has put in a formal request for a recount on the Nobel Peace Prize voting.

And has a good shot at getting the results overturned.

MikeS

Sheesh!
Naive amateurs running the country!

pagar

Hit and Run, that is a wonderful link under your name, and I thank you for it. But it doesn't explain where the word on the street is coming from, IMO. Is there really word on the street to that effect?

On second thought, even if there isn't, let's spread the word that there is. I think it would be funny to see Mr. Gibbs explain that Obama really didn't mind it being taken back. Like he explained that getting the Olympics for Chicago wasn't really important.

hit and run

Pagar:
But it doesn't explain where the word on the street is coming from, IMO.

heh,the title of the blog does explain exactly where it came from...

Jane

WEll if anyone could find someone with backbone we could impeach the guy over the Walpin matter: LUN

I won't hold my breath.

pagar

Hit and run, Maybe it is because I keep switching back and for between JOM and the financial markets (who have apparently decided that the AGW scandal will have no effect whatso ever on stocks) but I don't see how that title translates into Lula getting the Nobel fraud prize pulled back from Obama?

clarice

Isn't it odd, Jane, that a gang as lawless as this seems unable to see where the thugs of the world are going?
What a combination of Chicago thuggery and ivy league progressive intellectual frippery!

hit and run

Pagar, "The Voice in My Head" is where the idea that Lula would outmaneuver Obama on the peace prize came from. That is,the only street where such a word is being heard is my own. I'm just goofing on the cluelessness and weakness of Obama on the world stage.

Which may not make much sense,because it is his weakness that the Nobel committee was rewarding anyway.

Jane

WEll unless that is where they want to go.

pagar

From the LUN Jane recommended.

""I understand how much work you are doing to prevent and control damage from the IG matter," Solomont wrote in an email to Eric Tanenblatt, a board member who had talked to the press. "I want you to know how much I personally appreciate all your efforts."

What is the difference between what the AGW scandal info says and this information? It seems to me they are cover-ups with no one (that matters )investigating either one. Until people start going to jail for this stuff, nothing will come of it.

pagar

Thanks Hit, I was hoping there was such word on the street.

clarice

Precisely , Jane. Precisely. Fancy pants talk about jaw jawing and all the while bowing to the wishes of the most aggressive thugs. Let the fittest survive in that jungle. Ironically, theOnce got the most fragile voters to support his climb to a position where he can make their lives immeasurably more awful.

Janet

((Isn't it odd, Jane, that a gang as lawless as this seems unable to see where the thugs of the world are going?))

Yeah Clarice...the thief is indignant when stolen from, and the thugs & liars can't understand thugs & liars. Maybe they won't do what they say, the way YOU don't do what you say Obama. Duh!

John Bibb

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The Brazilian President showed who he is when he backed Zelaya in his bid to take over Honduras as JEFE MAXIMO POR VIDA. And when he consorts with Castro, Hugo Chavez, and the Iranian Hitler.
***
Birds of a feather (aka vultures) flock together.
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Rocketman
***

Barack Hussein Obama...mmm...mmm.mmmmm

Ick bin een nincompoop

Soylent Red

Psst...Brazil used to have a nuclear weapons program. Gave it up, we were told.

Naw. Probably no connection whatsoever...

Ignatz

The bowing and scraping of Carter ended up with the Russians in Afghanistan, the Cubans in Africa and Central America and the Ayatollhas in Teheran.

What are the odds Barry's bowing and scraping ends up with the Russians in the Ukraine, the Venezuelans in Central America and the Ayatollahs in our lap?

boris

"The bowing and scraping of Carter ended up with the Russians in Afghanistan, the Cubans in Africa and Central America and the Ayatollhas in Teheran."

Sorta takes the shine off the argument "Carter is how we got Reagan".

Getting the Reagans without the Carters should be the goal.

pagar

O/T, but I'd like to know if I was the only person in the market who was stupid enough to believe (last Friday) that a scandal in the global warming area would have an adverse effect on stock prices?

narciso

The Iranians are already in Venezuela, and
Nicaragua as well, so we've managed to tie the two together. There are even reports that the Contras are regrouping in part. OT, where do the NCBE get the idea of a boom later this year.

Jane

I've been looking for something to get me out of my bad mood. See this oldie but goodie at the LUN

Jane

Pager,

I thought the same thing - but I own nothing in that arena so it made no difference.

pagar

Narciso, I think one could bet that the Iranians are everywhere in Chavez's circle of friends. Meanwhile, the Obama Administration seems intent on making sure that everyone anywhere in the world understands that America is not going to side with people/nations that believe in human freedom. People/nations who has traditionally sided with American.

peter

Der Spiegel awakening to reality; can MSNBC be far behind?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

They may have loved him in Berlin, not so much in Japan:

Japanese News: Obama Visit “Worst in History”

E. Nigma

You shouldn't mock the mentally challenged. Yes, "MSNBC" is far behind, and they won't be catching up with the mainstream kids very soon.

Now, what's all this crap about the Ayatollahs giving someone a lap dance?

ben

"I hope this over his head president is the last democrat to hold that office in my lifetime.'

Clarice, may you have a very long and happy life.

Angellight

Pres. Obama is an old Poker player, he does not show his hand until he is ready to do so...., and Pres. Obama's trip was one to increase cooperation, trust, work on nuclear arm threats, better trade deals and a myriad of issues. As for China, through face to face dialouge Pres. Obama can work on getting us out of the mountain of debt we now owe to China. Pres. Obama also understands that we now live in an interdependent world and what one country does effects us all. And too, in order to get some countries in line there must be an alliance of countries to stand strong. I cannot believe this authors naivetee unless they are part of the Party of No and Fear whose job it is to "muddy the waters". They remind me of the Great Wizard of Oz who told Dorothy that if she killed the wicked witch of the east, he would get her back to Kansas... all the time knowing he had no such powers!

Jim Miller

I am bitterly clinging -- for now -- to the hope that Obama will be no worse a president than Carter. But that isn't the way I am betting.

(For one thing, Carter had actual executive experience before becoming president.)

pagar

Peter, that link is Andrew Sullivan. Now I have to go run my computer thru the washing machine.

Sara, This country will never get straightened out until that headline changes to read

American News: Obama Visit "Worst in History"

clarice

Thank you, ben.

ben

"Pres. Obama is an old Poker player, he does not show his hand until he is ready to do so.."

Obama already played his hand, that's the problem. The whole hope and change thing was a bluff, and guess what, those who bought it are now sorry they folded.

Sue

The party of no. Someone has their talking point down.

ben

"I am bitterly clinging -- for now -- to the hope that Obama will be no worse a president than Carter."

I prefer Carter. He was an incompetent fool without a mission or agenda. Obama has a mission and an agenda, we can only hope he is too incompetent to implement it.

Ann

Oh My

Katie Couric's Forbidden Dance of Gin

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Angellight: Guess you didn't get the word yet that your guy is a total putz. A disaster on the international stage, a bigger disaster on the domestic front (healthcare at an alltime low of only 38% approval).

Carrying water for the O-man is no longer cool, doncha know?

jimmyk

through face to face dialouge [sic] Pres. Obama can work on getting us out of the mountain of debt we now owe to China.

Love this one. How does "dialogue" get us out of debt? Are we going to ask for debt foregiveness? Never mind the fact that Obama's reckless spending has multiplied our indebtedness.

Which brings up the ever-ridiculous NY Times, which has this to say:

With the national debt now topping $12 trillion, the White House estimates that the government’s tab for servicing the debt will exceed $700 billion a year in 2019, up from $202 billion this year...

The potential for rapidly escalating interest payouts is just one of the wrenching challenges facing the United States after decades of living beyond its means. (my emphasis)

Well, no, it's after just 11 months of the Obama administration's insane spending. Amd as if this wasn't a completely predictable outcome of porkulus. This is the NYT's effort to support the "I inherited this mess" meme of Obama. It doesn't pass muster.


Frau Erntedankfest

soylent - thanks for sharing.
FTA: "Interviewed 05 October 2004 in Brasilia by Brazil's "TV Global," U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said, in a reiteration of prior U.S. statements on the subject, that the United States fully accepts that Brazil has no desire, plans or interest in developing a nuclear weapon, but rather aims to develop a nuclear power program for peaceful purposes. Powell said Brazil's plan for a nuclear power program is an issue between the Brazilians and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which works for the safe, secure and peaceful uses of nuclear science and technology. The United States hopes that in due course Brazil "will see the wisdom" of signing on to what is called the "Additional Protocol" to expand the IAEA's authority to detect clandestine nuclear programs and increase the number of nuclear-related activities that a signatory must declare to the agency, Powell said."
The U.N. is our friend


Jane - hit's link made me feel much better.


Porchlight

"Pres. Obama is an old Poker player, he does not show his hand until he is ready to do so.."

LOL. I think Obama needs to learn to breast his cards a little better.

OTOH by all accounts, George W. Bush is a superb poker player.

centralcal

Ann: Oh my? Oh my? So sedate of you. I say Oh. My. Lord.

Dave (in MA)

The comparison with Carter is looking like a best case scenario these days.

jimmyk

Ann: A warning to those of us who might have been in the middle of eating would have been helpful.

Gregory Koster

JimmyK, we have to be fair. Geo. W. spent a hell of a lot of money on ends that were idiotic at best, and government growing at worst. This is why the aspiration "Let's get the Reagans without the Carters," is so dam hard to achieve. In 2000, most everyone would have picked Geo. W. as a "Reagan." They weren't entirely wrong as Geo. W's resolution against terrorism showed. But in domestic policy they were dead wrong. It's striking how the strong, confident, burdened President who bet the war on the "surge" could collapse into a panic when faced with a financial collapse, a collapse he did not do enough to avoid. The remedies he chose were poor, and left the door wide open for The Once to ram a whale's dose of bunkum down the nations' throats.

As for the talk of impeachment, it is idiotic. How, pray tell, are you going to get a conviction when you can't even stop health care by filibuster? The GOP let such wild talk infect it in 1998, and look at the results: impeachment is now talked up no matter who is Prez, no matter if the offense is a parking ticket. Bah. There's a long hard road ahead for this nation. It will require stamina, not frenzy, to traverse it.

Dave (in MA)

Any similar pics of FLOTUS under the influence?

Porchlight

The GOP let such wild talk infect it in 1998, and look at the results

Um...they successfully impeached the sitting President and his VP failed to be elected, resulting in the GOP taking the WH in 2000 and all of Congress in 2002?

I'm not saying impeachment is desirable or even possible, but you're going to have to try a little harder here.

bgates

In 2000, most everyone would have picked Geo. W. as a "Reagan."

Like who? Not me.

narciso

"These goggles they do nothin" that was disturbing in a way I couldn't imagine. I thought blackmail was supposed to work the other way around. It's like Elaine from Seinfeld over there

Geez GK way to spoil the mood, it's competition between you and anduril for buzz kill, seriously.

glasater

Believe the phrase Pres GW Bush used at the the onset of the financial crisis was--"this sucker could go down!".

Just loved it!!

And in a past life I used to play some poker and would have loved to have had Zero on the other side of the table...........

cathyf

Ok, I'm too lazy to research this myself and thinking somebody here might know... At some point there was discussion that McIntyre had made an FOI request for pretty much the stuff in the leak, and speculation that someone involved in the FOI response might be the leaker. So, there was an FOI request -- does anyone know if there had been a formal response to that request yet?

Because if the Hockey Team guys had already sent back an official response claiming that the stuff in the data dump doesn't exist, then they are in a WORLD of hurt...

daddy

Well he may be Jimmy Carter in how he cringes and cowers and apologizes to the rest of the world, but when it comes to his domestic actions attacking liberty and the economy in this country, he's suddenly the reincarnation of Atilla the Hun.

JM Hanes

Sue:

"The party of no. Someone has their talking point down."

I think it packs a lot more punch than the Tea Party, don't you? In fact, I was so convinced it should be our talking point that I hot footed it over to the domain name registry back in April and laid claim to:

partyofno.us

Then, under the influence, so to speak, of what I'll just call domain name fever, I registered:

justsaynonono.us

Then I figured I should probably cover all the bases and registered:

partyofyes.us


Pofarmer

So, there was an FOI request -- does anyone know if there had been a formal response to that request yet?

The FOI request was denied. Now, in a seperate(maybe) incident, Phil Jones claimed that much of the original CRU temperature dataset had been "lost". Be interesting if it shows up in there.

clarice

I can't find the site, cathy, but I recall reading the request was denied and one day later the packet was put online. OTOH the BBC weatherman Hudson says he received the packet on October 12, read it and apparently did nothing with it.

Dave (in MA)
justsaynonono.us
Because justsaynonononotgodblessamericagoddamnamerica.us was too long.
boris

Italiacto (for some browsers anyway)

jimmyk

Geo. W. spent a hell of a lot of money on ends that were idiotic at best, and government growing at worst.

I would not disagree, but his deficits are a drop in the bucket compared to O's, most importantly because O's are projected out to 2020. We can also blame Bush for the TARP, but at least that was a one-time expenditure, not necessarily a permanent ratcheting up like porkulus and obamacare inevitably will be.

clarice

Thanks, Boris.

bgates

"I was so convinced it should be our talking point"

If there was a Republican Noise Machine worthy of the name, they'd have had ads up for months on "The Party of 'No' Through the Ages":

Aztec: The crops are failing again. We need to cut the hearts out of more virgins.

Republican Aztec: No! That's a terrible thing to do, and it won't solve the problem.

****
Salem Democrat: The drought continueth! Verily we are under the fell influence of witchcraft! We must needs burn the old women at the stake!

Salem Republican: No! That's a terrible thing to do, and it won't solve the problem.
****
Plantation Owner: There's cotton dying in the fields because we don't have enough Negroes to pick it. We need to legalize the slave trade to save the economy.

Early Republican: No! Slavery is wrong, and we can invent machines to do the job faster and cheaper.

pagar

"The FOI request was denied."

What was the wording of the denial, is the question as I understand the question from CathyF?

Jane

Love this one. How does "dialogue" get us out of debt?

Now now, it's a lot like spending - which dontcha know also gets us out of debt.

Bend over Barack!

Gregory Koster

Bgates, in 2000, the chioce was Geo. W. or Gore. Put the question: 'Who's the "Reagan," Geo. W. or Gore?' "Neither one" is a perfectly fine answer, but in that case, you'd have to vote third party or abstain.

Who did you vote for in 2000? Why? Myself, I voted for Gore, thinking the economy was headed downhill, let Good Al take the rap, and I didn't like Geo. W.'s crony capitalism. I backed this judgement right up to 9/11, at which moment it looked silly. That's the way life goes.

Care to tell us your 2000 electoral history?

Narciso, I think we are living in grim times that are likely to get worse and stay so for some time. But I am not the one howling "Communist! Socialist! Doom!" There's a lot of 200 proof quacks on display, and one benefit is that their quackery may inoculate the populace just as Jimmy Bumpkin did in 1977-81. Both Bushes did much to counteract Reagan's good work. It's part of the reason we are undergoing Once therapy now. I prefer to laugh at the quacks who rule us. What's the alternative? Those like Pofarmer seethe and make noises about bullets and eyes, but will never follow through on such vitriol. All they are doing is giving the Left a chance to hit JOM as a den of crazies who talk about murder and oughta be investigated.

No. Wait patiently, try to see clearly what is going on, and donate time and money to those who may be able to heave The Once and his motley gang to electoral oblivion. There's a number of possibilities open to all citizens. JMHanes is acting on what she sees as possibilities. What are you doing?

Pofarmer

"What was the wording of the denial, is the question as I understand the question from CathyF?"

Sorry.

I believe it was-


Nya, nya, nya, nya, nya, nya phhhbbbbttttttt!

Actually, it's detailed on ClimateAudit.

JM Hanes

In other domain name news, after running through the official U.S.-China Joint Statement promulgated by Hu Jintao and Obama, I ignored a mountain of looming deadlines, to my own immanent regret, and culled a Top Ten List from Obama's latest global meanderings.

If only because it would be nice to think that at least one other person in the world somewhere, aside from me, might actually lay eyes on it, here's Overclocking the Irony Meter. It may have more blockquotes than commentary, for a change -- I decided not to risk a formal analysis, though. In the interest of overkill, I LUN'd it too!

bgates

"Bgates, in 2000, the choice was Geo. W. or Gore."

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I had thought it was Millard Fillmore vs King Louis XVI.

"Neither one" is a perfectly fine answer, but in that case, you'd have to vote third party or abstain."

Not really. I did vote third party, as it happens, but in 2004 I voted for Bush - not because I mistook him for Reagan, but because he was so much better than the alternative.

Rick Ballard

Here is the FOI Denial letter to McIntyre. There is some interesting speculation at WUWT concerning the provenance of the CRUtape Letters. It's certainly possible that the released info was compiled as an unwinnowed meta-archive containing material to be used in the event a response was mandated.

JM Hanes

Many are the paths, GK. Your own personality may play a larger part in the route you choose than you might think.

bgates: My head is on the block, as we speak, and I'm just laughing like crazy!

Pofarmer

Inhofe is calling for a Senate investigation into Climategate.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/69141-inhofe-to-call-for-hearing-into-cru-un-climate-change-research

Dave (in MA)

I also voted 3rd party in 2000, and regretted it almost immediately after reading some of the things Browne came out with, but living in MA what's the effing difference?

clarice

ery funny, begates. Now I'm off to read jmh's opus.

narciso

What's my handle, GK, where am I from, what did Craig and Holder do that spring, who do you think I voted for?

Well that was the right answer in all three
instances, bgates,

clarice

Very good, jmh.
ook, maybe it's time we start grading him by minutes he's spent working as opposed to time spent on date nights, wandering the globe pointlessly, golfing, hosting state dinners, Halloween parties and Wednesday night soirees.

I mean I figure he's put in about 15 minutes of real work and for that he's performance is not as bad as it might be for a full time official..

MikeS

I showed up a little late today. Is JMH having a party?

narciso

Yes, he's the guy from Office Space, who kept getting promoted, after he was hypnotized not to care

JM Hanes

Thanks, clarice, you're a trooper! I meant to include this bit from the Garrett interview which I'm sure will resonate with JOM's As-I've-Always-Said fans:

Nobody's been more disappointed than I have to see how high the unemployment rate has gotten. And, I spend every waking hour, when I'm talking to my economic team, about how we are going to put people back to work.
What amuses me is that he must have realized mid-sentence that "every waking hour" wasn't going to fly -- even before you get to the dates, golf, parties, campaigning, not to mention simultaneously spending every waking hour on healthcare for all. The way it comes out, though, almost sounds like he's dozing off when he's not meeting with his economics team -- which would explain a lot.

Thomas Collins

OK, JMH, just to prove that no good deed goes unpunished, I'm sure all JOMers are going to expect a regular "irony meter" update from you. Say, once a week. You're not busy with anything else, are you? :-))

clarice

It certainly would though were I president to keep my blood pressure from soaring I'd sleep thru the economics teams' meetings, too.

His team is as capable as he is..and when in less than a year his fondest and stupidest cheerleaders like moDo and Chris Matthews catch on,can the general public be far behind?

Mustang0302

Oh My

Ugh. Katie pretending she's a hot, petite brunette still in her forties. Work that white girl overbite, Katie. You betcha.

glasater

Have read that Zero isn't really listening to his economic team--as if that wasn't already obvious.

Somewhere I was reading that the 'firing' of Greg Craig really upset some of the lib commentators like Modo and Mathews.

caro

New bumper sticker?
Bend over, Barack!
h/t jane!

hit and run

Obama:
Nobody's been more disappointed than I have to see how high the unemployment rate has gotten.

Surely he meant disappointing.

daddy

Slightly OT,

To enhance open and honest discussion, BBC Climate Reporter Richard Black has re-opened comments to the BBC's Climate Blog, but only if you do not mention the CRU hacked documents, nor link to any site that mentions or contains any information from the CRU hacked documents.

You are however now allowed to comment on Blacks latest post about Sea Level temps rising to 451 Fahrenheit, and the importance of the Copenhagen Conference to assist in that rise.

Oops, did I say Fahrenheit 451?
I meant 6 Degrees Centigrade, and to clarify, Black says he and Copenhagen want to prevent that rise, not enable it. Could'a fooled me.

Frau Erntedankfest

Ha-ha! JMH, thanks for mentioning the overwhelming schedule of Pres. #44. After reading your inundation of ironies link, I was thinking about the O-man's schedule of activities and how many are in the presidential glamor role he prefers. To make up for all the party time, however,we have learned today he will be staying up late with his security team cramming for that Afghanistan decision and using his camouflage Magic 8-ball until it comes up with the right, er, leftist answer.

caro

jmh, Dave Ramsey was just on Beck expounding on the POSITIVE merits of NO. You are definitely on to something.

caro

And I loved the ironies, jmh. Agree with Clarice that we need a weekly irony,or list. Why limit to one a week?

Gregory Koster

Bgates, your talents are limitless. However hazy you were on current events in 2000, you are the perfect dinner guest in TM's circle when the question of "What Prez has double consecutive consonants in first and last names?" comes up. I say to you: flourish! I must admit your 2004 vote may depress you when I tell you that I voted the same way, for the same reason. Still, that shouldn't stop you from flourishing. I won't ask about 2008 which was a ferocious choice for anyone who prefers liberty to ochlocracy.

Grim times. Reagan got round them with an optimistic outlook. In a rather different way, so does SP. That, I think, is what's needed in these times instead of competing in the who-can-flick-each-other's-scabs contest. Leave that to Sullivan, the natural Once fan.

Rick B. thanks for the link and even more for the "CRUtape letters" bit.

Old Lurker

JMH: "Your own personality may play a larger part in the route you choose than you might think."

JMH, it might be what you were refering to, but there is very interesting research of late about exactly how important personality is when picking stocks, for example, or when selling them. One of the conclusions was that while the general rule is that having, say, 30 stocks is better (less risky, more profitable) than having, say, 5...the impact of the personality of the picker is so strong on the outcome that some are actually worse off (more risky, less profitable) with more stocks rather than fewer. It was interesting to see it quantified.

bad

Jane's new bumpersticker, BEND OVER BARACK and the SNL skit of Barry in China gives a whole new meaning to "Pacific Rim Prezidebt"....

glasater

The SNL was a hoot Bad:)

DrJ

Bad! That's bad!

DrJ

Bad! That's bad!

bad

Great Read, JMH. Congratulations also to Clarice and Chaco. Mr. bad is chortling everytime there is any mention of global warming or whatever the fraudsters are calling it lately.

Old Lurker

When Bad is bad, she is very bad. Bad, Bad.

BTW, I was gone this weekend and missed Charlie's piece that everyone is raving about...where is it?

clarice

I think we're sticking with Rick's Climate Scientology, bad. At least I am.

pagar

Biggovernment.com says ACORN dumped 20,000 documents in a dumpster prior to the Calif AGs
visit to the office.

LUN

A pessimist might conclude that ACORN represented a REAL threat to America. An optimist would probably conclude they were changing their ways and doing a little housecleaning.

Neo

This Asia trip really throws the kabash on the theory that failing President can do a road trip to raise their numbers. Gallup has Obama at his lowest (so far).

hit and run

pagar:
A pessimist might conclude that ACORN represented a REAL threat to America. An optimist would probably conclude they were changing their ways and doing a little housecleaning.

A pessimist would see the dumpster as half empty and an optimist would see the dumpster as half full now in the hands of Andrew Breitbart.

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