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August 12, 2010

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Danube of Thought

“The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have come at tremendous cost to the American people,” said the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi...

Now would seem an appropriate time for a gentle reminder that six years of war in Iraq during the Bush administration cost less than the failed stimulus package of Obama and Pelosi.

rse

We talk a lot here about media bias.

I noticed EdWeek did a whole report on Michael Bennet winning in Colorado with the header "Senator to Face Stmulus Foe in November".

It then noted that Buck had attended Tea Party events and described the Stimulus package as "Porkulus" on his website.

Apparently the authors regard such facts as making a candidate beyond the bounds of sane society.

DebinNC

Photo of Flint serial stabber suspect.

Porchlight

likely to increase the odds of a primary challenge in 2012.

This seems to be an indicator of a possible primary challenge from our favorite Democratic political family:

HotAir: Clinton backing away from Sestak story?

lyle

As if Nancy gives a shit about "tremendous cost to the American people," while she's out there spending like a pimp with a week to live.

(For the sake of propriety, I'll refrain from writing all the maledicta floating around in my head towards this woman.)

Rob Crawford

Now would seem an appropriate time for a gentle reminder that six years of war in Iraq during the Bush administration cost less than the failed stimulus package of Obama and Pelosi.

But you don't understand! All that money is funneled through the hands of Democrat operatives spent domestically!

matt

In addition, Speaker Pelosi was quoted on Afghanistan as saying "Hello, I must be going".

Ranger

Well, the Blago news is interesting:

Agreement on 2 of 24 counts. Deadlocked on 11 counts, haven't deliberated on 11 counts. Note sent back to jury reading:

"You should deliberate on wire fraud counts to the extent necessary to enable you to decide on those counts. We recognize that your stated inability to reach agreement on other counts may establish to your satisfaction that you will be similarly unable to reach unanimity on the wire fraud counts. Nonetheless, a deliberative decision on those counts should be made even if it is a decision that you can't reach agreement."

Overall, this looks pretty bad for Fitz, given that Blago literally did not put on a defense beyond opening and closing statements.

narciso

They haven't deliberated on 11 counts, what are they waiting for, then again, they are debating, this stuff is wrong, no one told me that

Porchlight

Ranger,

Even Fitz can't keep certain jurors from the fear of getting horse heads in their beds or worse. It is Chicago, after all.

Ranger

Well, they probably needed to get a verdict on the original 11 counts to move on to the wire fraud. If he's not guilty of the basic charge (ie, bribery), then he can't be guilty of wire fraud relating to the charge.

DebinNC

Detroit News on the "Middle Eastern immigrant" serial stabber suspect who speaks with "a Palestinian dialect".

Danube of Thought

Imagine some Democrat ousting Obama for the party's nomination in 2012. Now imagine the black turnout on election day.

Jane

"You should deliberate on wire fraud counts to the extent necessary to enable you to decide on those counts.

Doesn't that assume a guilty finding on the two decided counts? I think the instruction is confusing.

I'm rooting for Blago, simply because I'm rooting against Fitzgerald. Altho a not guilty verdict will probably embolden Obama - as if he needs it.

Ranger

Doesn't that assume a guilty finding on the two decided counts? I think the instruction is confusing

Posted by: Jane | August 12, 2010 at 01:53 PM

I'm not so sure. It think the fact that it is an 11/11 split means they will be deadlocked on the wire fraud as well, but they just need to formally determine that.

BTW, if Blago walks, I think you can knock 5 points off of every Dem in a statewide race this November. People will be angry as hell and looking for a way to express their displeasure at the Dem machine.

Ranger

Oh, and if it is a mistrial due to a hung jury, you know Fitz will retry. The big difference is he may need to put Rezko on the stand to tie all the threads together, and that would open up a lot of doors the White House would wish stayed closed.

Jane

Guys I just sent an email to all the people on the Soylent list. To complicate matters more I sent it from my work email so if you get an email from a law firm with two names starting with W&F you know it is me.

If you don't get it let me know.

Ignatz

Interesting tidbit at AmSpec by Quin Hilyer on Newt backing the wrong horse, something he seems prone to, in the GA gov race.

Porchlight

Ignatz,

Deal's ethics investigation is worrisome.

It sounds like it Handel didn't campaign well in the runoff. Probably that plus Newt's endorsement put Deal over the top - but only barely of course.

Pops

Happening in my town. I thought this was funny....talking about illegal aliens doing the jobs Americans won't do.

Two months ago, a friend at work came home to find a lawn care company had manicured and treated his lawn.

He discovered a bill on his door with the address of his neighbor. The crew apparently didn't speak english and couldn't figure out the right house address.

Today I came home and found a lawn care crew working on my neighbors yard. I happen to know he does his own lawn, but the guy on the corner, three houses away has a lawn service.

Ahhh, illegal aliens, manicure lawns for free...what great service.

Apparently the lawn care companies can no longer afford any English speakers on their crews.

Porchlight

The crew apparently didn't speak english and couldn't figure out the right house address.

How much English do you need to speak to find 805 Elm Street?

Pops

Porchlight,

Here's an explanation I got when a relative was building his house and the Hispanic framing crew was framing.

He had asked for sevberal changes to the floor plans with doorways added/moved and an additional closet.

Once the Hispanic crew was finished, he complained to the builder that none of his changes had been done.

The builder explained that since the crew only spoke Spainish it was easier and cheaper for him to have them frame the basic plan for all houses the same and pay a second crew to come in and make the modifications afterwards. So they would come in and cut out parts of just studded walls and frame new closets, etc. just so the builder didn't have to try to explain it to the other crew and have them mess it up.
I kid you not.

Rob Crawford

How much English do you need to speak to find 805 Elm Street?

You're assuming they can read in the first place. Though you'd think it'd be possible to match the symbols on the paper to the symbols on the sign...

Appalled

Porchlight:

Gingrich is much more a national figure these days than anyone with much influence in Georgia. Deal had the support of a lot of the GOP house delegation and establishment figures in the local GOP.

The ads for that campaign were exceptionally brutal -- Deal's ads out and out called Handel a liar.

narciso

Yes, and he was, not to the same extent as Bauer in S.C,

Ignatz

--The crew apparently didn't speak english and couldn't figure out the right house address.--

The really strange thing is, the part they shouldn't be able to read, the name of the street, they apparently got right.
The part that's universal, the number, they got wrong.
I suspect, as Rob implies, they'd be just as big a set of doofuses if they were back in Mehico.

Porchlight

Pops,

That is frightening (from a safety perspective) and sad. I knew things were bad, but in my experience at least the crew foremen are almost always bilingual.

Rob,

You're right, maybe they couldn't read at all. But they could write enough to leave an invoice, so surely they could at least make sure the house number matched the address?

Appalled,

Thanks for the update. I was unsure of how much effect Newt's endorsement had but I did read other commentary suggesting it carried some weight.

Ignatz

Porch,
Here's another perspective on the GA runoff from Human Events by the excellent John Gizzi.
I don't know enough about any of it to know who's right.

Jane

Ace has a great post up about the kind of hypocrisy bubu specializes in.

Porchlight

Thanks, Ignatz. I'm still a bit nervous about Deal - we need to take/hold as many of the governorships as possible.

OT but somewhat governor-related, I was following the CO primary the other night and it suddenly dawned on me that I actually attended CO gubernatorial candidate John Hickenlooper's wedding many years ago. I really had no idea who he was at the time, only that we were invited because my husband and his bandmates were friends of the bride and played the reception. Weird.

Neo
Dem group launches 'F*ck Tea' campaign
Voters to mount “F*ckD em” campaign. Fits perfectly with Nancy Pelosi’s “NewD irection” campaign
Rob Crawford

You're right, maybe they couldn't read at all. But they could write enough to leave an invoice, so surely they could at least make sure the house number matched the address?

You think *they* prepared the invoice? Or that it was prepared on the spot? Nah -- they were sent out with the completed invoice.

Janet

I tell ya Neo...they are just disgusting. Out of ideas and full of hate. I would be embarrassed to be a Democrat. The young woman that started the F*ck Tea campaign is so pretty. How did she end up at the point where she thinks that is a good idea?

Clarice

I can't tell you how often I get mail and packages meant for my neighbor a few doors down. my addy is 4455;their's is 4445. The moogs who mess up are native born Americans working for UPS and USPS.

Janet

Who would even wear a t-shirt that had F*ck on it? Drunken teens on a spring break trip maybe?
Do they even think of children at all? I can hardly believe it.

flodigarry

Hi Jane -

Did not get the e-mail, but would love to do something for Soylent.

Danube of Thought

Our address is 710. Couple of months ago we looked out late one afternoon to see a very sturdy "For Sale" sign planted on our front lawn. The people who put it up had used a post-hole digger and the post holding the sign was a 4x4. Took us 24 hours to get it taken down, by which time roughly everyone I know had seen it and called to ask WTF. Turns out it was intended for 723--go figure.

The realtor lady was pretty funny in apologizing; she said "Well, I hope you get some good offers."

hit and run

We sometimes get pizza delivered to our house that is intended for the other 8242 address on the next street over.

I swear we've never gone ahead and paid for their pizza and eaten it ourselves.

No,really,I promise,we would never do that.

Danube of Thought

Recovery Summer rolls on:

Los Angeles - The number of U.S. homes lost to foreclosure surged in July, another sign lenders are moving quicker to take back properties from homeowners behind in payments. Lenders repossessed 92,858 properties last month, up 9 percent from June and an increase of 6 percent from July 2009, foreclosure listing firm RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday.
Porchlight

Nah -- they were sent out with the completed invoice.

Aha - good point.

centralcal

DoT: We have a really knowledgeable guy on local talk radio that does Realty Talk. He was saying that our county had actually slowed on foreclosures and was slowly climbing out of the foreclosure abyss. He warned that banks throughout our city/county were looking to clear up their books and would be putting all their foreclosed properties on the market, so now was not the best time for homeowners to be selling if they didn't have to. Sure enough I saw many For Sale signs spring up in just the last few days (on obviously foreclosed property judging by condition of yard).

I sure hope that proves to be the case here locally, so that property values don't continue to decrease.

Rick Ballard

"lenders are moving quicker to take back properties from homeowners behind in payments."

That's actually a pretty positive sign. It ties in with the vacancy rate dropping enough so that the big apartment REITs are cutting their "2 Months Free Rent" campaigns.

Eventually the credentialed morons are going to actually do some analysis regarding what has happened and will continue to happen for the foreseeable future to consumption. It really is going to be a 2% decade. If we're lucky.

Danube of Thought

What has to happen before stability returns is market-clearing. A great deal of what this administration has done thus far is delaying and distorting that process.

Rob Crawford

Jebus:

For the fifth time since July, the first family has set plans to board Air Force One for a frilly vacation, a 10-day return trip to exclusive Martha's Vineyard where they are expected to stay at the 28-acre oceanfront Blue Heron Farm that rents for up to $50,000 a week.

Source LUN, thanks to Ace.

I've used three days of vacation so far this year. I actually felt guilty the other day for planning my annual WDW trip. For the cost of one week at the Blue Heron Farm, I could spend 40 weeks at WDW.

For the cost of a few weeks at that spot, the 'bammer family could buy themselves a really, really nice vacation home.

hit and run

flodigarry -- plz check your email. You should have something from me...

Janet

I guess the one positive thing about those t-shirts is that by the time someone is screaming f*ck...they really have nothing else to say. No spin, no arguments...just yell a curse word & run away. Maybe they've hit bottom.
It is the beginning of recovery.
#1 We admitted we were powerless over conservative ideas—that our lives had become unmanageable.

DebinNC

Last summer we waited in vain for the air conditioner repairman to come make a major repair on our aging unit. Next day, his dad, the highly regarded owner, came and apologetically explained his son had performed the same major fix at another 111 address around the corner. As the owners weren't home at the time, they weren't moved to pay for the expensive fix they hadn't requested. The dad got so tickled telling that story, the money lost seemed worth it. His son won't live it down though.

BobDenver

Just heard on the radio of the first Colorado Senate poll. Tea Partier Buck leads Obamabot Bennett, 47-41.

Dave (in MA)

Those T-shirts literally say "f*ck" on them (with the asterisk), which is at least a higher level of class that I'd normally give D-baggers credit for.

narciso

I recall with Hickenlooper wasn't there an incident with an illegal that worked in one his restaurants, I think Hewitt mentioned it in 2006

Porchlight

Yes narciso, I think the illegal murdered someone.

Carol Herman

W's wars are lost. What's more interesting? Karzai can still shake the American money tree. Won't change the odds. Too bad we can't grab the saud's and shake the money out of their pockets! Everything was done as a gamble for them. So sad. Too bad. And, probably the ONLY reason we don't bring the troops home, is that we have NO JOBS here to give them.

As to where the most voters are? INDEPENDENTS. And, the republicans, should they gain seats, will suddenly discover an ability to "work" with some of their colleagues in "the other party."

While it's possible Harry Reid isn't coming back. I say this because I saw an article that now, on Wednesday, Mitch McConnell goes from the Hill. To the White House. For lunch. Bill Clinton didn't cry at the outcome in 1994! He appreciated the opportunities Newt Gingrich gave him to RUN TOWARDS THE MIDDLE.

rse

Maybe Buck should get "Stimulus Foe" on t shirts until they start to understand that's an asset, not a liability.

The Obamas are flying into Panama City Beach on AF1 on Saturday and leaving Sunday.

An expensive one night statement after all the southern schools have reopened.

Porchlight

An expensive one night statement after all the southern schools have reopened.

That's a good point. Texas schools haven't started yet but people's vacations are pretty well wrapped up. I imagine the same is true for the rest of the Gulf. At any rate, too short and too late to derive much of a tourism boost at this point in the summer.

Ignatz

Nuts to his vacations.
I just hope we survive until he starts collecting unemployment.

Danube of Thought

I still remember the way my contracts prof put it: If I'm out and come home to discover that somebody has mistakenly painted my house, I don't owe him a thing. But if I'm sitting on my front lawn drinking a mint julep and I watch silently as a guy mistakenly paints my house, I owe him the reasonable value of his services.

hit and run

rse:
The Obamas are flying into Panama City Beach on AF1 on Saturday and leaving Sunday.

Wow. Hadn't realize PCB had a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Florida_Beaches_International_Airport>new airport . . . with a 10,000 ft runway.

Interesting!

rse

St Joe underwrote the 1st 3 years that the airlines would not lose money on offered flights.

Southwest flies in nonstop from Baltimore, Houston, Nashville, and Orlando.

The "international" part though seems a bit pretentious and optimistic.

 centralcal

Topsecret always finds the interesting stuff. She re-tweeted a message by James O'Keefe (remember him?) that had this link:

Maxine Waters and United One Bank

It appears to be a "trailer" for an upcoming expose. Stick with it until the end (only 2 minutes long, anyway).

Danube of Thought

Can this be real? Survey USA has Fiorina over Boxer, 47-42.

 centralcal

From JammieWearingFool - Sarah bags another one:

A New Hampshire Democrat has quit the state legislature after cracking a joke on Facebook about Sarah Palin's death.

Rep. Timothy Horrigan of Durham posted a comment Wednesday that a "dead Palin wd be even more dangerous than a live one" and she "is all about her myth & if she was dead she cdn't commit any more gaffes."

Horrigan apologized Thursday and resigned. He is also discontinuing his re-election campaign.

macphisto

I'm finding that prediction rather over-optimistic as well. but it wasn't that long ago that California elected a whole string of Republican governors, so hope springs eternal.

Dave (in MA)

Centralcal, that incident actually claimed 2 scalps. I can't find any citations online yet, but on Boston talk radio they reported that the other PDS-afflicted D-bagger, Keith Halloran, has suspended his campaign for the NH legislature. It's sad how that once-great state has become North Massachusetts over the last several years.

Ignatz

--Can this be real?--

Please God let it be.
Nothing would be sweeter than to see that dull witted harridan lose the title she claimed she worked so hard to get.

Ignatz

Dave,
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out somebody mixed up the names.

centralcal

Amen, Ignatz.

Barbara

Hi Jane -

Did not get the e-mail, but would love to do something for Soylent.


Same here. How does one get on the list?

Dave (in MA)

Ignatz, No mix-up. Halloran's remark was made on the Facebook wall of his Republican opponent D.J. Bettencourt after the latter made a remark citing Stevens' years of service in office and in uniform. Horrigan's remark was a pile-on.

Rob Crawford

A New Hampshire Democrat has quit the state legislature after cracking a joke on Facebook about Sarah Palin's death.

Imagine what they say in private.

Dave (in MA)

http://www.wmur.com/politics/24609209/detail.html>Here we go. Confirmation of what I reported earlier.

Danube of Thought

I painfully recall when Boxer made her first run. The GOP had a choice between Tom Campbell and a preachy moron of a talk-show host named Bruce Herschenson. In their typical CA brand of wisdom they chose Herschenson, who promptly got caught visiting peep shows on Santa Monica Boulevard. The nation has paid the price for 18 years.

For all of those years I have maintained that she is the stupidest of the 100 Senators. Have I been wrong? (No fair bringing up Patty Murray or Jim Bunning.)

Jane

If you want on the list, send an email to Hit or me. I'm at fwdaj@live.com.

sbw

From a few threads back (I've been busy at work), extra thanks to Mel, Rick, Matt et al. on understanding Helicopter Ben's latest. I do like being in class with bright students!

Thanks!

MarkO

Jim Bunning pitched a perfect game. Further affiant sayeth naught.

narciso

Jane, the livestream didn't work today either

Rick Ballard

"Can this be real?"

Hmmmm.... un/underployment is running 18-23%, 7 million jobs have been destroyed since the Dems took control of Congress, the percentage of Americans with FICO scores <600 has risen from the historical average of 15% to 25%, foreclosures are heading for a new annual high and Q2 GDP is going to be revised to less than 1% soon.

Oh - and Moochelle Does Marbella will be playing nationwide through November while the Putter in Chief continues to miss those all important fourth putts.

Yeah, it's real. It's actually going to improve rather substantially.

Jim Miller

Patty Murray won the "no rocket scientist" award twice. On the other hand, from everything I can tell, she is a reasonably nice person -- unlike Boxer.

So which is worse is a matter of taste, though neither belong anywhere near the Senate, or power equipment, or anything else that requires intelligence and good judgement.

It is just possible that both will have more time to spend with their families after this November.

 Ann  Mongrel

cc:

It sounds like James Okeefe of ACORN fame has a damning video on Maxine Waters and OneUnited Bank that will come out soon. She is suppose to defend herself tomorrow and will address ethics charges with reporters on Capitol Hill Friday morning at 10 a.m. We could see it right after her lying presser.

He has a new website:
http://www.theprojectveritas.com/

And you can follow him on twitter:
http://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII?from_source=onebox

Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Michelle Antoinette are three bad Sistas, imo.

Danube of Thought

Hell, Bunning threw a perfect game. But he's still quite painfully stupid.

centralcal

"She is suppose to defend herself tomorrow and will address ethics charges with reporters on Capitol Hill Friday morning at 10 a.m. We could see it right after her lying presser."

You betcha, Ann. Bring on the popcorn!

Clarice

Here's the deal on MO. She figured this was going to be a co-presidency and then, in the course of the campaign, people saw her and didn't like what they saw. So , rather like the "virgining" of the real Queen elizabeth (Tudor) they put their big brains together in the WH and decided to make Michelle O into Jackie O--wigs,expensive clothes, etc etc. Then they did the garden and no fat kids' behind shtick..and she damned hates it. She's furious. And anyway her popularity is going down anyway because she's nasty. And people are seeing thru the white nose swipe and the ugly, expensive clothing and the wighats and the WH musicales.

centralcal

No kidding, Clarice!

"...in the course of the campaign, people saw her and didn't like what they saw."

And, it is only getting worse for Michelle Antoinette.

I loved the picture MOTUS posted with the new, improved, no longer angry Michelle. (Picture ugly, angry.) Alas, don't know how to post it here. It gave me great guffaws of pleasure looking at it at work today.

I can only imagine how Sausage and Malaria will turn out in adulthood, with what they have been raised in, under, and around.

Melinda Romanoff

Clarice-

I disagree.

MO thought that she would be adored. She knows she's entitled to be adored. I would add she didn't know what it means to be a "legacy student" at Princeton.

She always knew that she would never be able to shoehorn in a word between Rahm, David, and the Prop that is her "husband". And now she's just going to "go and be herself" (meaning= "Let's see just how much credit is on this card.").

Entitled, my a$$.

bgates

What did Bunning do?

MarkO

Look, I know you can't hit and think, but I guess it is also true that you can't pitch and think.
He was perfectly stupid.

narciso

Now, cc, I must object a little on that point,
the daughters haven't done anything to deserve that characterization, although being under the influence of Jeremiah wright, for all of theirlives, probably didn't help things

centralcal

Okay, fair enough Narciso. I apologize for my "name" characterization. Snark, uncalled for with the kids.

However, I still stand with the crux of my imaginings. Rev. Wright was only one - maybe even small - part of their upbringing. Their parents are the molders of their character clay. Frankly, I don't see a whit of difference between the influence of a Rev. Wright and Michelle and Barack in their lives and their outlooks on life.

Melinda Romanoff

DoT-

I recall a rare moment of lucidity by Bunning when trying to determine the actual cost of the Medicare Drug Supplement by some mope in the Bush administration and actually hit all the precise arguments about unlimited liability in senior medical bills, as written, due to increased life expectancy. He was brilliant! With no notes!?! Who knew?

And where'd he go? (I personally think, after that episode, his brains were sucked out by "Hill Staffers", the "NEW' zombies. Shuffle them through anybody's office, and the same results come out. I expect a new release of this ongoing film franchise in early November. Stay tuned.)

narciso

The folks down under, have an interesting take on things, in the LUN

Melinda Romanoff

c-cal-

They paid attention to what was going on in that Church like you would to flies in a paint store.

That Church's members were whom they were drawn towards, their like minded souls, that's who shapes a congregation.

Pity, no interviews with Those "private citizens".

Dave (in MA)

Centralcal, for all we know they're lovely girls who'll grow up to have $multimillion weddings to hedge fund-trading offspring of paroled felons.

centralcal

You know, Mel and Dave, having raised 4 kids of my own, and watched another generation come up, I would say that Sasha and Malia may prove to be exceptions. But, the odds are against that and them.

Plus, if, as we all hope and pray, daddy goes down in flames, ala Jimmah Cartah, they MAY have even more baggage to work through in their adult years.

flodigarry

Thanks Hit - got it!

matt

In ATL on the way to Bermuda. May be off line a few days. Send umbrella drinks and NR.

Thurston & Lovie

Melinda Romanoff

c-cal-

No, I fear for the daughters' upbringing. They may feel more "entitled to" than their parents, because of the lack of humility being taught.

So, I think we're on the same page, as far as that goes.

 Ann  Mongrel

cc:

Imagine growing up and finding out the worst President in the U.S.A. was your father.

I agree with you completely, they are going to have a lot of baggage to work through in their adult years.

Is this the pic?

Photobucket

I can't imagine the fights those girls have heard, the carp they have been taught, and more importantly the fashion sense that has been ingrained. LOL

Ok, Ex, let me have it. I deserve it tonight.

Melinda Romanoff

After that friendly face, I'm fading.

G'night all.

(And where's glenda, BTW, I'm a bit concerned.)

hit and run

Ugh. Look,I've missed a few people in the Soylent emails -- and there is no getting around it -- I missed a few people. This is due to nothing else other than me . . . missing a few people.

I've just sent out an email to some who I clearly missed. Please check your emails if you've sent me something and haven't gotten anything since.

And if you still don't get anything,please email me again................

Publius from Idaho

Dot

I offer you Al Franken in rebuttal.

Melinda Romanoff

hit-

Have you investigated a larger rake, perhaps a roof rake? I know where some might be located for your next "garnering" project.

(heh)

Don't knock yourself, you saddled yourself for a big project for the next few months.

And we're here to help.

Oh, and give you a hard time.

G'night!

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