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Pops

OK, so maybe Palin, Limbaugh and Beck aren't directly responsible for mass murder, but can't we come together in a bi-partisan manner to agree they failed to do anything to stop it?

clarice

Kurtz and Rubin and Dem shill , the ADL's Foxman, all erred IMO in claiming Sarah shouldn't have used that term. Kurtz was mistaken. Foxman was playing his consistent Dem court Jew role and Rubin? Well, I'm afraid I don't know what got into her. She criticized even Palin's timing and the content of the video. PHEH.

All I see on the horizon are spotless white togas and the wolves snapping at the heels of anyone who fights for what's right with any skill and vigor.

Pops

So the real story is a left-leaning, dope smoking, liberal conspiracy theory believing 9/11 truther shot a Republican federal judge and a Democrat who voted against Nancy Pelosi two days after the Daily Kos proclaim the Congresswomen was DEAD TO ME.

Could the drive-by media have been any less accurate??

jimmyk

I think Blackwell is off base. I read Steinfels's line as poking fun at liberals whose heads explode over the Christian Right. He's not suggesting the Christian Right is akin to serial killers, he's saying that this is how the crazy left might react to the book's title.

Charlie (Colorado)

Could the drive-by media have been any less accurate??

Don't dare them.

Pops

In my dreams I see Limbaugh, Palin and Beck going to Arizona and give themselves up to face the charges the sherriff has levelled against them.

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Of course it will be bad enough to see the sheriff on the stand at the real trial being asked:

Q: From that start sheriff, you didn't believe my client was guilty of these crimes did you? In fact you made several public statements blaming others for these crimes?

Q: Can we play the sherriffs remarks to the jury to show he from the bigginning thouight my client was not to blame?

jimmyk

Incidentally, since there's been pronoun confusion today, the two "he's" in my last sentence at 5:46 refer to Steinfels, not Blackwell.

Pops

I think the prize for the most ludicrous libel against Palin has to be ABCs the note:

"BOTTOM LINE: Sarah Palin, once again, has found a way to become part of the story."

Written by MICHAEL FALCONE and AMY WALTER"

After three days of major news organizations claiming she was behind the mass murder, they then blame Palin for making herself part of the story by pointing out the medias lies.

At lease we can now, put these two so-called journalists on a list of reporters that cannot under any circumstance be believed.

Danube of Thought

Dershowitz settles the question. Odd that one of the few honest liberals would be a lawyer.

MarkO

How I wish I owned some words.

Extraneus

Nobody cares about "blood libel." They're just scared of another "death panel."

matt

Steinfels is one of the few NYT writers I can stand any more. His comment in this case is on the liberal media, not conservatives, and he is spot on.

A movie 25 years ago called "Where the Buffalo Roam" was based loosely on Hunter Thompson, who had a rottweiler whose attack prompt was the word "Nixon". The same holds true with the asinine media these days when the word Palin is mentioned.

Palin remembers that words have meaning, and used them specifically.She's loving this. If she wasn't the bete noir before, she surely is now.

Enlightened

Ouch.

That damn liberal'splodeyhead braintrust jumped up and bit me.

I just chewed down a handful of Exedrin with all the splitting-atoms-with-their-minds goings-on.

Sigh.

Rob Crawford

Charlie, they don't need daring; they're self-motivated.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Dershowitz has always been somewhat of a maverick unwilling to blindly follow liberal orthodoxy. I respect him for his comments today displaying that maverick tendency.

Danube of Thought

We should remember the reaction of the oaf Bloomberg immediately after the attempted Times Square bombing: he cautioned us not to jump to conclusions; after all, it could just be some guy who was angry about the healthcare bill.

maryrose

Sarah Palin has every right to defend herself against these libelous attacks. I thought her statement was measured and honest with good suggestions for healing.The Left is like Pavlov's dog whenever her name is mentioned.

PaulV

Dershowitz has been subject to unfair attacks by leftists for not accepting their Blood Libels against Israel.

Extraneus

Someone needs to shoot Sarah Palin

The video at the bottom. Language alert, but worth watching. Too easy to forget who we're dealing with.

Boatbuilder

Most of the idiot commenters on the Kurtz piece were absolutely certain that somehow the very use of the phrase "blood libel" was an anti-semetic slur. Dopes.

Rob Crawford

Reports that people attending the rally are being given "Together We Thrive" t-shirts.

Boatbuilder

Rob: Ahem. "Memorial."

Rob Crawford

Yeah. Right. "Memorial".

Rob Crawford

Ah. Report of t-shirts appears to be false. Sorry for being gullible; hard not to think the worst of this crowd after the last few days.

 centralcal

Official WH brand - blue and white signs, free t-shirts with the brand, concession stands - yeah, it sounds just like a memorial service.

Enlightened

If they want to thrive why don't they just sign up for Kaiser healthcare.........last time I went to a memorial I sure as hell wasn't hoping to thrive with those around me.

LUN

clarice

It's very hard to underestimate them.

 centralcal

I love Tammy Bruce. She is twittering away about the branding, the neon signs, the t-shirts, the concessions stands and this:

One hour before the Obama Massacre Theater begins.

Extraneus

Did you watch that, Clarice? I know it's poor form to use eliminationist rhetoric, but I wouldn't mind eliminating those people.

carmachu

@ Danube of Thought

Thats an absolute lie. That is NOT what bloomburg said. He did NOT caution jumping to conclusions. In fact he flat out stated it was someone from the tea party who was angry.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/bloomburg-blames-tea-party-for-suv-bomb-attempt-in-times-square/blog-313383/

Pops

Do you think Obama will mention that the Sheriff acted stupidly?

Pops

Palin should have said simply:

'In fact only one politician has told their supporters that they have enemies they need to punish, that their anger is justified, that they need to get in their opponents face, and they need to bring a gun.'

The media may be able to figure out just whom that politician is....

Extraneus

He'll obliquely refer to the Sheriff's words to say that both sides have acted stupidly. After all, Obama is the centrist. The rest of us are partisans. He of course understands that there are strong feelings on both sides, but we need to come together as a people, for the good of the country. Like he does. Etc.

Threadkiller

“House Chamber, Washington, D.C. January 12, 2011. M. Speaker:
I haven’t gotten to know Gabrielle Giffords yet, and I thank God that by His grace, I haven’t lost the chance to do so.

I didn’t know those Americans who came to speak with her that day. But what I do know is that they gathered last Saturday in Tucson to do something uniquely American. Gabrielle Giffords was reaching out and listening to her employers, the American People, and they had come to offer her their guidance and advice and counsel.

In this respect, the attack on Gabrielle Giffords and her constituents struck at the very heart of our process of representative democracy – that very point where the American people communicate their views to their elected representatives. That is the linchpin in the entire process of self-government.

This was not only an attack on those who serve, it was an attack on every citizen who steps forward to offer honest advice and counsel and yes – even criticism – to those they have selected to serve them and to serve the nation.

It is the nature and the strength of a participatory democracy to have passionate and heart-felt differences of opinion.

But in moments like this, we see the very best of the American people come forward. Men and women of good will cease to be Republicans or Democrats; we put aside our passionate differences and disagreements; we suspend our political agendas; we silence partisan recriminations.

We unite and stand together as one nation – the American nation; one race – the American race; one people – the American people.

By doing so, we pay supreme honor to our fellow citizens who were felled in the exercise of their rights and responsibilities as a free people; we salute the heroes who without a moment’s hesitation rose to resist and stop this craven and depraved attack; and we assure the world, as Lincoln said, that “that government of the people, by the people and for the people shall not perish from the earth.”

">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIZKyTx3VA&feature=player_embedded"> Video

clarice

No, I didn't watch it. I have seen quite enough of this stuff when Bush was president to fill my remaining days with disgust for these people.

Greg Ransom

Actually, it's a dead metaphor, like "jackknife".

Rob Crawford

Oh. Fuck me.

LUN.

The t-shirts are real.

Rob Crawford

Actually, it's a dead metaphor, like "jackknife".

Talk to some truck drivers and you'll realize that "jack knife" is not a dead metaphor.

PD

OT

Iraq Vows to Boost Oil Production to 3 MMbpd:

The Iraqi Ministry of Oil said Wednesday that the oil-rich nation will boost its production of crude to 3 million barrels per day (bpd) before the end of 2011, up from the current rate of 2.1 million bpd.

Obviously someone needs to clue this guy in. Iraq doesn't have any oil to sell because the U.S. went in to steal it all.

PD

The t-shirts are real.

Of course. This is the PR administration.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I didn't realize I was so poorly educated. Although I knew the origins of blood libel, I stupidly thought that in today's world it was more about long term animosity, kind of like the Hatfields and McCoys or some such. Stupid stupid me.

Neo

I wonder if Paul Wellstone will get one of those "Together We Thrive" T-shirts for the re-enactment of the Wellstone memorial Tucson memorial service.

Melinda Romanoff

Rob-

No, thank you.

Neo

it was more about long term animosity, kind of like the Hatfields and McCoys

I think that that is a "blood feud"

Rob Crawford

Of course. This is the PR administration.

That's not just PR. It's branding. They've built a brand around a murder.

Where did they get a stadium's worth of t-shirts in three days?

Porchlight

Where did they get a stadium's worth of t-shirts in three days?

It would be amusing to find out when the shops got the orders. Last night? This morning? If they used multiple shops in the general area it might not take that long.

Neo

So do we call it the Murder in Tucson "Together We Thrive Murders" ?

Boatbuilder

Ahem. "Rally."

My bad.

RichatUF

Good grief, a t-shirt. And Enlightened stole what I was thinking, have hear KP adverts all the time. It also looks like a creepy slogan from V or some such. Anyway.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The Anchoress says it so well. Read it all.

And so, today, Sarah Palin–probably aware that she was damned if she did, and damned if she didn’t–made a statement. It was actually a very good, if a trifle long, statement. Immediately upon her delivering it, the media, like jackals went on the attack. ABC news, in a breathtaking example of cognitive dissonance, wrote: “Sarah Palin, once again, has found a way (!) to become part of the story. ”


The (!) is mine. The press hauls this woman into the story, makes her a focal point of it, and then asserts that she has inserted herself into it. Staggering.


Other talking heads were spittle-spewing over Palin’s use of a very common phrase that had actually been all over media they day before thanks to Glenn Reynolds’ essay in the Wall Street Journal: “Blood libel.”

The press had almost–almost–been forced to put their Palin-toy down, but those two words–which had not offended when used by Reynolds, or by Andrew Sullivan in the past–gave them something new to bite on. “Blood libel!” “Palin still using violent rhetoric!”

And the Palin-madness–a madness unto rabidity–is reinvigorated.

“Today was supposed to be set-aside for the victims,” someone posted on twitter, “Palin decided she is one of them.”

No. Sarah Palin made a statement that was contextual, relevant and appropriate to the day. The press, if they really wanted to put the day aside for the victims, could have simply reported that Palin made a statement, and moved on. In truth, they could have utterly ignored Palin’s statement altogether, because she really is not part of this story.

But they did not, because they cannot. Where Sarah Palin is concerned, the mainstream press and the political pundit class are like 14 year olds obsessing over the social order of the cafeteria, and especially that stupid new cootie girl, ewwww.

They are the spiteful, malevolent and immature teenagers in “Carrie,” armed with pig-blood and just looking for any opportunity to pour it.

They are repulsive in their clique; one wants to take them by their shoulders and shake them and say “grow up! GROW UP!”

Barack Obama

Some people got shot. But let's not forget what this thing is all about, people.

clarice

The Anchoress is en fuego!

Rob Crawford

It would be amusing to find out when the shops got the orders. Last night? This morning? If they used multiple shops in the general area it might not take that long.

Don't forget the time to make the design, get it approved, and make some proofs.

...

I'm really having a hard time not coming to some really nasty conclusions.

windansea

Police have released the records of interactions with the shooter, story at hotair and smoking gun.

But there is no mention of any of the death threats that Sherrif Dumbdick mentioned.

Chollajumps blog last post on the death threats sez "Anyone in Law Enforcement or Mental Health in Pima County that ever had contact with Mr. Loughner is now in bunker mode. Everyone is afraid of lawsuits down the road. They are evaluating their behavior and checking to make sure they followed all rules governing the care of Jared Loughner"

Also, Sherrif Dumbdick has some skeletons, his daughter served 2 1/2 years for "
"She was booked into the jail the same day a search warrant was served at a Midtown hotel room where methamphetamine, cocaine, marijuana, a scale, syringes, pipes and counterfeit money were seized, according to court documents filed Friday."

Threadkiller

Maybe Richard Dawson can MC the event.

">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBteGkNfyVA&feature=related"> Running Man

Greg Ransom

Someone doesn't know the meaning of "dead metaphor".

Jane says obamasucks

pops,

I stole your description of what this is really about at the top of the thread.

And here comes the Obama together we thrive rally where the Messiah will once again part the seas. Too bad he can't shovel the snow.

Danube of Thought

Danube of Thought: Thats an absolute lie. That is NOT what bloomburg [sic] said.

Loosen your underwear, pal. Then read it and weep:


“There is no credible evidence so far that this attack was more than at least one person, the driver,” said Mayor Mike Bloomberg. “After that there is no evidence that anyone else was involved. It may be, but we can’t say that it is.”…

“If I had to guess, twenty five cents, this would be exactly that,” Bloomberg said. “Homegrown maybe a mentally deranged person or someone with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill or something. It could be anything."

.”

Extraneus

♫ ♫

My chausses were wrapped too tight
I couldn't get 'em off last night
A week went by
Now it's July
Finally got 'em off and my girlfriend cried

♫ ♫

Sue

How do you cheer at a memorial service?

Jane says obamasucks

So are any of the families allowed at this pep rally?

And why doesn't the sheriff get to talk?

Oh it is so solemn - all those screams of adoration has Obama grinning ear to ear. Nice

Jane says obamasucks

Oh gawd it is so hard for him to fake emotion.

RichatUF

windansea-

But there is no mention of any of the death threats that Sherrif Dumbdick mentioned.

Seems that a small gap exists in the records.

Janet

I like how Boatbuilder is using "violent metaphor alert" whenever he/she uses a metaphor like "slapped them silly"...LOL!

VMA could become a new popular acronym!

OldTimer

Regardless of what the teleprompter displays at the memorial tonight, what's read from the speaker's eyes and body will reflect the man inside. Pardon me, but I will never believe that Obama has a scintilla of regret for the bloody mayhem last Saturday. He sees every event small and large as a political opportunity to benefit HIM. Because of his own calculating actions in office, he has implacably proved to me his casual disdain for human life and for Americans in general, especially those who are pigmented lighter that he. This entire politically contrived event makes me nauseous and embarrassed for my country. I hope there are enough clear-headed Arizonans participating in and around this event to prevent a maudlin overdose, or the opposite: a big rock-concert-like affair benefiting the appearance of the Messiah.

Porchlight

Don't forget the time to make the design, get it approved, and make some proofs.

Yeah, I'm trying to work backwards to figure out when someone signed off on the idea. I think at least 24 hours, don't you?

Melinda Romanoff

Copeland?

OMG.

Jane says obamasucks

Okay, here comes the prayer for gamblers.

Jane says obamasucks

Oh gawd they had to have stacked this deck. People are cheering for the Indian who is a Mexican. I want to know who was invited to this.

glasater

Yeah--we've got chariots of fire going and a bunch of people cheering who have no idea of what the word 'decorum' is.

Rob Crawford

Quote of the Day over at Ace of Spades:

They're clapping. They're clapping at a funeral.

Sue

If I were a family member, I would be appalled. In fact, I wouldn't be there. Dear heavens, these people are nuts.

MarkO

Peyote is a damn fine thing. I'm thinking now of Carlos Castaneda. Watch your Southern Door, boy.

Sue

The little girl's father said his wife and daughter were fans of Obama, he though leaned the other way. I took it to mean he is a republican. He has to be horrified, if he is there.

Melinda Romanoff

glasater-

The prelude was Aaron Copeland's Fanfare for the Common Man.

Stephanie

I was on the wrong thread...

glad to see someone is watching the

My congresswoman got shot and all I got was this lousy tee shirt political rally.

Y'all have better stomachs than I.

J.R.

Cheering/clapping/yelling....what am I watching here?

Rob Crawford

Yeah, I'm trying to work backwards to figure out when someone signed off on the idea. I think at least 24 hours, don't you?

Minimum. I think someone was working on this by early Sunday morning, latest.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a template prepared that they could just drop in the appropriate city name.

I'm not even watching this thing and it's making me sick.

clarice

I said it first--Wellstone II! Remember that.

Rob Crawford

Cheering/clapping/yelling....what am I watching here?

Wellstone II: Electric Boogaloo.

RichatUF

Porchlight-

Monday probably. Someone could call up UA (the U's purchasing office?) and see if they have any info about the shirts. I'm still stunned that they are passing out t-shirts at a memorial service. T-shirts???

J.R.

If I may, my son is just as important than those souls we just lost.

Another opportunist.

Jane says obamasucks

You know I can't get over how much damage Paul Krugman did to this country this week. There really need to be some consequences to his actions.

Barack Obama

Four more years!

I feel good! I knew that I would!

Janet

This entire politically contrived event makes me nauseous and embarrassed for my country.

Me too OldTimer.

J.R.

Make sure the simple family doc gets a t-shirt.

Pagar

I'm traveling and so far behind on comments it is not funny, but has anyone posted this
Alec Baldwin rant?

"would go down to Washington and we would stone"

Nothing could be clearer, except maybe someone saying "if they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring-----"

windansea

http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/

the proprietor of this blog, James Kelly, appears solid, he was an analyst for Naval Security Group and the NSA, lives in Tucson, and is also a reporter. He broke the desth threats story with this:

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County

Rob Crawford

I really, really don't want to say what this whole thing smells like.

J.R.

Following the anthem, the lights will dim and Michael Buffer will come out and say Let's Get Ready to Memorialize!!!

Jane says obamasucks

Boy I am really having a hard time watching this. The cheering and screeching by people who clearly don't know any of these victims is just as rude and as wrong as the day is long.

It's a pep rally.

MarkO

They don't give out tee shirts at funerals where you live? Come on, man.

Danube of Thought

"The prelude was Aaron Copeland's Fanfare for the Common Man"

Served the same purpose nicely on a Stones tour a while back.

clarice

Tell me again how Palin, who even Ambinder says was presidential in her video, isn't up to beating a guy so imbecilic he thinks this is appropriate?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

My son just called me and informed me that if he ever gets killed in a public tragedy such as what happened in Tuscon, he would not only haunt me into the afterlife, but make sure all our ancestors did too, if I even thought of making such a public political spectacle as this Memorial. And, he also indicated the most unspeakable punishments if I even considered having Obama speak at the event.

Good Lord, tee shirts, logos, bumper sticker slogans, and clapping and cheering. I pray to God the families are not there having to endure this mockery.

Threadkiller

In my sophomore year in high school my best friend's brother was killed in a motorcycle accident. The brother was a senor at the same school.

He had a small group of friends that cared deeply for him. At the funeral the church was packed with the entire high school.

I remember, to this day, two things that were said within the crowd of kids. "This was a great way to get out of school." "I didn't know him but I’m telling people I did."

I don't watch "Heathers" for that, among other reasons.

This sham reminds me of people that proved they only care for themselves. How sad.

The tee shirt should say: "Once you can fake sincerity, you can have it all."

Threadkiller

senor = senior

MarkO

Who was it who was described as the least sentimental person?

Stephanie

Iowahawk is on fire on twitter... I can't even get a link up for him.

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