Obama goes live any minute now.
POST GAME: Shorter Obama - I have a plan and the Republicans have a plan, so let's compromise and do it my way. I don't think Obama won converts with this speech. (As to his point that this is no way to run the greatest country in the world, welcome to the club - lots of us have been thinking that for two and a half years.)
Obama threatened granny's Social Security check in passing but did not dwell on it. I guess his idea is to pose as a grand hero when Geithner finally discovers the Trust Fund and the checks go out on time.
I thought Boehner did well in response. And passing a small bill that carries us to January ought to be veto-proof. Time will tell!
the corner store that wants to expand.......................
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:04 PM
What's going on? I was out checking my tire pressure.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:05 PM
We can fix it all, and it won't even hurt!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:05 PM
fairly shared, republicans are evil
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:05 PM
I blame
BushTea Party Republicans.Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:06 PM
most americans dont understand corporate jet owners
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Watching it live. Says it's both parties blame---then he blames the Republicans.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Hedge fund secratries pay the most taxes
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:07 PM
I noticed a slight smile on his face.
Is Barney Frank crouched inside the lecturn?
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:08 PM
Tax the people who make 250,000 dollars.
Wow, what a novel idea. Never heard that from Obama before.
Ohhh, now he's Ronald Reagan and the Republicans aren't.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:08 PM
those not now paying their fair share ooops trick quote....that was Reagan......who I thought was an imperialist....
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:09 PM
and the stimulus was necessary for firefighters and teachers. And bipartisn is good and debt ceiling is bad and he's going to 'splain it all to us.
He doesn't mention that he voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | July 25, 2011 at 09:09 PM
repub house members want us to eat purina cat chow and kill off welfare
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Republican House members will be to blame if they don't raise taxes.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Once again he is wearing the 57 star lapel pin.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Is Jane still in the Green Room getting made up?
Posted by: Another Barbara | July 25, 2011 at 09:11 PM
does he a corpseman handy if someone falls off their chair laughing and has a stroke?
Posted by: matt | July 25, 2011 at 09:11 PM
Hey, Obama, I like the cuts-only approach better than yours.
What was yours again?
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:12 PM
Speaker Boehner's new approach will force us to face default in just 6 months. 6 months is bad. It's dangerous. We all must compromise and give me everything I want.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:12 PM
we won't be able to pay social security or veteran's benefits or the companies that have contracts with government.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | July 25, 2011 at 09:12 PM
Luv it when he goes empathetic.
Hey baby, your compassion's ankle deep.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:12 PM
6 months not long enough, uh kicking the can, tea party evil, cuts only, rich selfish, kill the sick, captive all of us, dangerous, cant play this game, we have one week until visited by aliens
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:12 PM
She is out buying grey goose.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
The Senate has a better approach, a real good plan because it's probably what I want.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
6 months is bad. It's dangerous.
It sure is. That comes to an end before the 2012 election.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
everything is the republican's fault!
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
Once again he is wearing the 57 star lapel pin
The OIC has a lapel pin?
Posted by: bgates | July 25, 2011 at 09:13 PM
new members of congress will not compromise, food on table, bone tired of circus cant come together to finish the socialist revolution.
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Senate has a plan that will allow not to address this again like my predecessors had to before the next election.
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Obama just said he wants us all to make our voice heard.
Okay
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
the President just said call Congress.....
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
Both parties must put politics aside and give me exactly what I want.
Mostly people are fed up that the word "Compromise" is a dirty word. They are offended by that and they should be. So call the Republicans and give them a message that you hate them and like my idea.
Yay, got in "Slavery" in the speech.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
The thump when his hands land on the podium is a great little distracting tic. Ha, sometimes he forgets to do that little pinching thing instead of pointing his finger.
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
people fed up with a town where compromise is a dirty word???? bone-tired people tired of seeing three ring circus, so allow me to enter the ring!
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
To vote for bankruptcy press 1; to vote for larger government press 2
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:15 PM
I sure hope Boehner a adult slap in the face rebuttal to Barry's irrational tantrum.
Posted by: OldTimer | July 25, 2011 at 09:16 PM
How many times do Americans have to send this idiot their message? Americans want spending cuts, they do not want the debt ceiling raised at all, but certainly not without massive spending cuts. The polls are over 70% for this position. How many more before he gets it, if he ever does?
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | July 25, 2011 at 09:16 PM
slavery!!!
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:16 PM
the world is watching.........
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:16 PM
He's trying to do his best "I'm an upbeat, positive guy" thing.
Posted by: Ranger | July 25, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Feel the Malaise.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | July 25, 2011 at 09:17 PM
wtf is ed henry?
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:17 PM
He accomplished nothing with this. I only see this hardening the resolve of the Republicans.
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:18 PM
France 24 Channel loves the speech. Say's its the Obama we saw back in the 2008 Election.
BBC says Obama came across better on the Politics because he painted the Repub's as refusing to pay for stuff they have already paid for.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:18 PM
Boehner is tan and just had a smoke...........
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:18 PM
Boehner: Obama came to Washington and requested business as usual.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:19 PM
Heh.. Boehner is playing the everyman outsider!
Posted by: Ranger | July 25, 2011 at 09:20 PM
HERE'S MY VOICE - STFU,
Posted by: JackisBack! | July 25, 2011 at 09:20 PM
fiscal trajectory, say it five times
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:20 PM
Boehner: The president would not take "Yes" for an answer.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:21 PM
The Prez wouldn't take Yes for an answer -- that's my guy Beohner!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:21 PM
Man he needs a smoke and fast
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:21 PM
Boehner: The president wanted a blank check six months, and he wants a blank check now. That's just not going to happen.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:22 PM
six months *ago*
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:22 PM
ON the 42nd anniversary of the great Ted Kennedy address about some awful curse over the entire Kennedy family, just six days after he killed Mary Jo.
Posted by: peter | July 25, 2011 at 09:22 PM
they will send the bill....there's the marker
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:22 PM
That's my guy Boehner too!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:22 PM
Boehner is stronger than I expected. Setting the right tone.
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:23 PM
not complicated.......spend less....
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Boehner---Cut, Cap and Balance would do what the President wants. President would not take Yes for an answer.
What the President wants is a blank check.
If he signs the Bill we will send up this week, the crisis will disappear and we can then deal with the overall Debt Problem.
The bigger the Government the smaller the people. (Prager sez the smaller the citizen).
Boehner sez the same ending---God Bless you and God Bless America.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:24 PM
BTW, the delegate from Guam introduced a bill to pay Guamians and their descendents reparations for Japanese war crimes. This after the African American farmer payoff. Barbara Lee says the whole thing is manufactured.
Yep, they're really serious about putting the country back on the right track.....
Posted by: matt | July 25, 2011 at 09:24 PM
reaction: fox stoddard of course moist over Bammy
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:25 PM
He said it is a crisis created by the president. A good dig.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 25, 2011 at 09:25 PM
BBC Talking Head is on Obama's side.
Sez Repubs are using this to win what they can't win at the Ballot Box. Sez this is a form of extortion or like somebody kidnapping your kid and you acquiescing to the kidnappers. Sez we need more spending.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:25 PM
but she said boehner did well, something is wrong!
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:26 PM
AB, I snarked both speeches in the last thread. Too busy to switch over.
Posted by: Jane says obamasucks | July 25, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Krauthammer on Obama: I thought *I* was cynical, until I heard that speech.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:27 PM
Krauthammer shites all over Bammy's speech...
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:27 PM
bigger the government, the smaller the people......i like that line.
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:27 PM
Boehner was absolutely fabulous.
Posted by: Jane says obamasucks | July 25, 2011 at 09:28 PM
classic Krauthammer.
Posted by: J.R. | July 25, 2011 at 09:28 PM
AB Stoddard: Regan could not win repub primary today-wtf
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:28 PM
PD, I used that link, but chickened out by not saying I would back the JEF if he has Shep Smith drawn and quartered during prime time tomorrow.
Posted by: henry | July 25, 2011 at 09:28 PM
I don't care. Obama is awesome.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:28 PM
Maybe the Prez will think twice about demanding air time when he knows Boehner is going to get the last word. Will anybody even remember what Obama said? Who's takin' it to the people now?
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:29 PM
I thought Boehner did well. Terrible tie, but I like him better cause he IS wearing a terrible tie. He's not a fancy pants loser.
The honest smoker vs. the loser who lies about his smoking. No contest.
Posted by: Janet | July 25, 2011 at 09:30 PM
msnbc highly entertaining right now
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:30 PM
France24 sez this is Political Game-playing.
Ticker below the Talking Heads Sez Obama calls for Bipartisan compromise. Doesn't say the Repubs want that. Sez American's don't understand the issue but they do know the political process is not working.
Sez Obama's favorability ratings have ben going down but so has Congresses. Much more fair coverage than fromthe BBC. No surprise that.
Over to the Asian channels.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Who has dibs on Boehner? Someone tell me it's me!
Posted by: Jane says obamasucks | July 25, 2011 at 09:31 PM
No, Jane, it's not you.
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:32 PM
Matthews pursed lips may mean a turd misfire............
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:33 PM
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Do we need a spreadsheet for that?
Posted by: Stephanie | July 25, 2011 at 09:34 PM
HArrumph!
Posted by: Jane says obamasucks | July 25, 2011 at 09:35 PM
So they both smoke, so what?
They probably both drink stinky coffee too, but as long as they aren't brewing it in my presence, I don't care about that either.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | July 25, 2011 at 09:35 PM
The only thing that coulda made Boehner's response better is if he had been smoking while giving the speech! Oh yeah! Channeling the hard working Marlboro Man.
Posted by: Janet | July 25, 2011 at 09:35 PM
((Who has dibs on Boehner? Someone tell me it's me!))
Do we need a spreadsheet for that?
//Nothing like crapping all over your own joke.
Other than Boehner plastering a kick me sign on Obama's...
Posted by: Stephanie | July 25, 2011 at 09:35 PM
Piers Morgan: Prez wants compromise, Republicans won't budge. Plouffe says Prez rejects my-way-or-highway approach. Now that's rich!
Morgan asks how Prez reacted to Boehner's speech. Alas, he and Plouffe were walking out of the room at the time and missed it! But he read the (apparently instantaneous) transcript!
Posted by: JM Hanes | July 25, 2011 at 09:36 PM
He's not a fancy pants loser.
What! No terrific crease in his pants? How can anyone take him seriously.
Posted by: PD | July 25, 2011 at 09:37 PM
Sorry, Asia channels on to other stuff, so instead the lugubrious David Gurgen on CNN . As normal he looks like he has indigestion.
Don't think this went over so well with the Left guys, so here comes David Plouffe to try to make it advantage Obama. Boehner to blame. We will be reasonableon our side. Sez 2 times the Repubs are "My way or the HiWay".
Plouffe said he did not see Boehner's speech.
Holding my breath to see if CNN brings on a spokesman now to support Boehner. Sez Repubs must compromise a little bit and do whats right for the country.
Plouffe won't answer the 14th Ammendment put to him about raising the debt Limit without a deal. New talking point is that the Government paid for all this stuff and the Repubs are now refusing to pay for it. Compromise, compromise, compromise.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:38 PM
So they both smoke, so what?
I'm just joking around, Sara. I for sure don't care. I smoke....quite a bit...constantly actually. :)
Posted by: Janet | July 25, 2011 at 09:38 PM
Interesting take on ABC. unintended consequence of Obama's speech is securing enough votes for Boehner's plan.
Posted by: Mikey | July 25, 2011 at 09:39 PM
I guess "Compromise" focused grouped well.
Posted by: Ranger | July 25, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Japan's NHK is completely straight forward.
Sez Obama criticized Repubs for walking away from the negotiating table. Sez the Obama Administration is in an extremely precarious situation. No mention of Boehner---switched right away to Europe to try to explain the EU situation.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:41 PM
What? Didn't any of those MSNBC or CNN guys use the E word like Harry Reid did this morning? Hard to believe.
Posted by: Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet | July 25, 2011 at 09:42 PM
I love Jane! Just love her!
Boehner hit exactly the right tone - sounded like any one of us. Proud of him tonight! Damned proud.
Posted by: centralcal | July 25, 2011 at 09:42 PM
Jane, Jane, Jane. I'm afraid I beat you to it. And should I somehow become unavailable JMH is second in line.
Posted by: Clarice | July 25, 2011 at 09:43 PM
Schumer: new tea party congress represents nobody. Compromise meand repubs give up all positions.............
Posted by: bunky | July 25, 2011 at 09:44 PM
would it be bring to flood the WH with emails begging the president to speak to the nation every damn night?
Posted by: Clarice | July 25, 2011 at 09:44 PM
**would it be WRONG***
Posted by: Clarice | July 25, 2011 at 09:45 PM
Back to CNN hoping for the Conservative answer to Plouffe and we get---Chuck Schumer.Schumer sez tje Pres put the blame on the extremist Republicans exactly where it ought to be.
You can guess the rest.
Switched to the ASIAN gal on CNBC. They are responsibly showing first Obama's comments, then Boehner's comments, and not doing any obvious spin for either guy. CNBC talking Head sez this August 2nd deadline is a self-employed deadline and that there is wiggle room.
Posted by: daddy | July 25, 2011 at 09:46 PM