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Charlie (Colorado)

In the words of Buck Turgidson, “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed.”

Excellent choice of a source: "nuke them now, we can afford to lose 20 million citizens."

Frau Zehntausend

Seven thousand years is off by at least three thousand; I have it on good authority.

(ChaCo, you forgot to add that it's Bush's fault sunspots are flaring.)

Charlie (Colorado)

When the capability exists, you can’t discount the possibility.

Aha. Okay, this is the "if you owe your banker a thousand dollars::owe your banker a billion dollars" scenario.

I suspect you're right that none of these creditor countries wants the US crushed... although I'm sure the PRC at least would love to see the US taken down a couple notches. Especially if it meant the rate of return on the bonds they hold went up significantly.

Your original idea remains, however, among the dumbest suggestions I've ever seen promulgated by someone without significant organic brain dysfunction.

Janet

I hear ya Boatbuilder. And why this crisis, down-to-the-wire moment? Didn't Congress see this coming?
Someone has to stop the orgy. DC is sucking the life out of the country. God bless the Tea Parties!!!

Frau Fragezeichen

Boatbuilder, how do you respond to Sowell's opinion:

"It is not idealism to ignore the limits of one's power. Nor is it selling out one's principles to recognize those limits at a given time and place, and get the best deal possible under those conditions."

jwest

Charlie,

Nuking does tend to give the nuker a competitive advantage in the world market over the nukee. It’s a jobs thing.

Charlie (Colorado)

(ChaCo, you forgot to add that it's Bush's fault sunspots are flaring.)

Damn, you're right. Unless it's Obama saving us from a coming Ice Age.

Seven thousand years is off by at least three thousand; I have it on good authority.

Nah, it's just 6011 A∴L∴

caro

I don't think there will be a solution until the numbers become real. How about a bill that raises the ceiling in return for doing away with the automatic increases built into baseline budgeting? It would take one page.

Boat,I agree with you. Five dems voted for the BBA so why can't they be cajoled into supporting this. Matheson in Utah is at risk.

By the way,Captain H, would you support Jason Chaffetz to primary Hatch? We are being bombarded with ads now. Crossroads supports Orrin and the Club for Growth seems to be for anyone else.

Danube of Thought

Rush is way over his head on this issue. And he routinely mangles so many facts that he's in danger of marginalizing himself.

Melinda Romanoff

I would like to remind everyone that Little Timmy has been caught telling Wall St. not to worry, we won't have a default.

So who're you going to believe?

Charlie (Colorado)

don't think there will be a solution until the numbers become real. How about a bill that raises the ceiling in return for doing away with the automatic increases built into baseline budgeting? It would take one page.

Serious question: I seem to recall Jimmy Carter tried pushing this -- moving to "zero based budgeting". Anyone remember what came of that?

To take a note from Glenn, though, I suspect the really major issue is that it doesn't provide enough opportunities for graft.

centralcal

Was it only yesterday that I was proud to be a Tea Party hobbit? Today, I am proud to be a Tea Party terrorist. I can hardly wait for tomorrow!

Melinda Romanoff

c-cal-

Too early for the Molotovs?

Captain Hate

By the way,Captain H, would you support Jason Chaffetz to primary Hatch?

Absolutely; I heard Hatch on Laura Ingraham recently spinning like a gyroscope to cover his bony ass and act more conservative than his votes reflect. He's been there wayyyyy too long. Time for a change. Rove is throwing his support for Orin? I'm all in for Chaffetz.

Speaking of Laura, the FCC might want to test the airwaves for stress this weekend because there'll be some major scorching going on as Tammy Bruce will substitute for Johnny Carson Ingraham ALL WEEK. It's funny that I was thinking yesterday that since Laura and Teh Tam are at odds over Boehner vs Tea Party whether she'd be a future guest host when La Laura cashes in some of those frequent flyer miles. Question answered!

caro

CC,that idea is so yesterday. At the first Tea Party I went to in April 2009 there was a woman with a sign that said, "I went to bed last night a homemaker and woke up a domestic terrorist."

Porchlight

WSJ reporting Cantor says they've got the votes. Vote set for between 7-8 pm.

Boatbuilder

Frau--Thomas Sowell is a very sharp guy. I actually agree with him on this, and am not going to try to debate him, because I would lose. That is, I think that passing the Boehner plan puts the Republicans in the best position politically to gain the real power they need to start making real changes. But I am not buying the idea that if the Tea Partiers don't come around, it will be the end of the world and all their fault. There are plenty of ways to increase the debt ceiling without the Tea Partiers, if that is all that has to be done to avert the end of the world. (I also think that the Tea Partiers agree with Sowell and Krauthammer, but are better negotiators than they are. As is Boehner. I hope.)

caro

Captain, thanks. That is what I thought. If Chaffetz decides not to go for it, maybe Tim Bridgewater, who was the runnerup to Mike Lee last year.

Old Lurker

Charlie, Carter enforced a modified zero based budget approach in GA and tried to use it when he became President. The agencies fought tooth and nail and it never got very far. Much was abandoned in the early eighties and the last of it was dumped under Clinton. They all complained it was too much work, though at the time the rap was they hated having to re-justify themselves each year.

Ben Franklin

"I suspect the really major issue is that it doesn't provide enough opportunities for graft."

Well, it might help with the "use-it-or-lose-it" nonsense used in both corp and gov budgeting. But if you want to eliminate corruptive practices, you should look at Lobbies and Taxpayer funded campaigns modeled after Pell Grants. The rich already fund their own campaigns.......

BTW; ZERO-BASED IS ALREADY AT WORK SOMEWHERE.....

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/pr/2011cola-pr.htm

bgates

In the 70 or so years that the notion of a debt ceiling has existed, has the following exchange ever taken place in Washington?

Important Person #1: If the government borrows billions of dollars more, we'll break through the debt ceiling.

Important Person #2: Oh, then I suppose we will have to do something other than raising the debt ceiling.

Captain Hate

caro, I just looked up Chaffetz past on Wiki and my God, I think it moved. Won the primary against a Duke & Duke acolyte who was endorsed by GWB, Hatch and Bennett 60-40?

So he's wildly popular despite not having the party's support; the only question is if that will transfer outside of Provo. One more question: Do we want to waste these talents in the Senate?

Ben Franklin

"WSJ reporting Cantor says they've got the votes. Vote set for between 7-8 pm."

Yeah, I heard he was twisting arms like the Bug Exterminator did during SS 'reform' vote.

Porchlight

They all complained it was too much work, though at the time the rap was they hated having to re-justify themselves each year.

Knowing bureaucrats, it likely took them all year just to figure out how to justify their existence. Which is wasteful, to be sure, but at least it gives them less time to cause harm.

MarkO

Obama's boys are tweeting. That's right. No working, just tweeting. Here you go:

@BarackObama
Barack Obama The time for putting party first is over

Can he go first?

centralcal

LOL, Caro! I like that woman tea partier and feel just like she does!

Ben Franklin

I keep hearing commentators (pols pundits) misspeaking
'Death Ceiling".

Freud would be proud.

narciso

The problem with the BBA, is it's a deus ex machina, or the metaphor that seems apropo;
a Kraken, Now the courts disabled Gramm Rudman, which was in itself, a modest measure
of instilling discipline. The Dems and the Dukes, took out, Christine, Joe, and Sharon,
leaving us with the wisdom of 'the Bearded
Marxist, Veruca Salt and the crooked commissioner from Casino, you can't even
work around that level of stupidity, IMO.

caro

That's right, Cap. Chaffetz primaried a big fan of amnesty. So he has a good track record. Would you rather he stay in the house? Hatch is pretty powerful so it would be a rough slog to the senate. And he would lose his house seat if he challenges Hatch.

Frau Fragezeichen

Backatchya, Janet, on the Tea Parties, but it's the Story of Our People from the beginning of our history as far as preparing for the future goes.

Porchlight

Barack Obama The time for putting party first is over

BARACK (to aides): How does this thing work? You want me to type what? A putting party? Time to hit the links? Wheee!!!

Jack is Back!

Darn good thing the Fed is keeping IR low. Just imagine how much we would have to raise the ceiling for all the extra interest payments.

But I keep saying they are missing the big, big picture in all this and that is growing the economy by looking at regulatory certainty. In other words, slim down the EPA, downsize the DoE, reform the health care legislation, cut out the duplicate and replicate bureaus, offices, agencies, committees etc. We need to fix those potholes on the road to progress and growth. That is where the new revenue comes in not from raising existing tax rates. Right now we have approximately 15% of able bodied, working age American's not working and not contributing taxes both income and SS/Medicare. Just think how much revenue we could generate by halving that number in 2 to 3 years?

Spending discipline, debt reduction and raising the ceiling are really meaningless without regulatory and tax reform.

narciso

That would be Cannon, who Chaffetz took out, right. I didn't google.

bgates

According to wiki, "Since 1979, the House of Representatives by rule has automatically raised the debt ceiling when passing a budget, except when the House votes to waive or repeal this rule."

I don't quite get why that's phrased as though it were completely in the hands of the House, but more importantly I worry that the markets will think we're not paying enough attention to this Very Important Issue if the updates come only every year. (The House at least manages to pass a budget every year, right?) To show we're both attentive to the problem, yet careful enough stewards of the public fisc that we are not incurring more debt than is necessary, I think both houses by rule should increase the debt ceiling every five minutes to the amount of public debt outstanding, plus ten billion dollars in case of emergencies. Then to let everybody know we're on top of things, insert the notices into the Congressional Record.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $14,303,315,132,497.

Five minutes later,
Resolved by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $14,303,905,762,899.

That way everybody will know we're serious.

Captain Hate

LOL Porch; I think you captured the essence of El JEFe. Did proximity to drug addled musicians give you that insight?

Captain Hate

Mind like a steel trap, narc.

Ben Franklin

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/former-cheney-aide-addington-now-at-heritage-driver-in-debt-debate-20110726

"Addington has taken on a new role as enforcer of tea party dogma during the intensifying partisan bickering over the debt ceiling. From his perch as the Heritage Foundation’s vice president for domestic and economic policy, Addington is throwing verbal thunderbolts at House Speaker John Boehner’s current debt-ceiling proposal, which he argues will pave the way to tax increases.
The merits of Addington’s arguments about the need to oppose Boehner's proposals are in some ways less interesting than the simple fact that Addington is the one publicly making them. Addington kept a low profile during the Bush years, granting no interviews and largely shunning lawmakers from either party. But he wielded enormous power behind the scenes, helping Cheney craft the Bush administration’s warrantless eavesdropping program and most of its detention initiatives.

Critics of those policies say they’re horrified by Addington’s reemergence onto the public stage."

Whereas, I welcome him to the kitchen. The Broth is better served when many cooks dip their fingers.

Porchlight

That, Cap'n, plus I recently watched Caddyshack in HD and enjoyed the hell out of it, as usual.

caro

Narc,yes,Cannon. Clone of Bennett.

Ignatz

--Let's see.. GDP growth in 4th quarter 2010 was 3.1%. Then George W. Bush did something to make it drop to 0.4% in 1st quarter 2011. Is there no end to the damage the man can do?--

Actually, DoT, 4th quarter 2010 GDP was also revised down from the 3.1% to a mere 2.3%, so clearly the slow down predated even most of the recent gasoline and other commodity increases.

Melinda Romanoff

Ig-

But it's still Bush's fault.

Captain Hate

Dear God; Scotty Centerfold suggested he might vote for Hairy Reed's plan. Anybody surprised by that?

Ben Franklin

From your mouth to the electorate's ears..............

Stephanie

Well, well, well. Ace is flip flopping as he realizes that the president's approval rating is sinking daily. WhereTF has he been for the last week? Direct quote from his latest 'brilliant' screed:

I didn't know that. Did you know that? No one seems to be reporting this. For all the claims of "Republicans being blamed," you'd think someone would report that only 40% of the country approves of Obama's handling of this issue.

Given that this is hurting Obama, Trump and Dick Morris seem right in saying the Republican Establishment types (who I sided with yesterday, but am reconsidering) have more leverage than they are crediting themselves for.

Talk about needing to get your head out of your ass...

narciso

Facepalm of the Tentacled One, Captain, nothing really surprises me anymore,

Carl

@BarackObama
Barack Obama The time for putting party first is over

Driving for dough; putting for show.

Jane says obamasucks

He better not. I heard a bit of him on the radio this afternoon, but not enough to hear his position.

He's coming to town at $1000 a whack. That won't help.

Captain Hate

Actually Stephanie, narc, Crawford and I learned to tune Ace out a while back when it's obvious he's been meeting with TOP MEN to get the "insider" story (well Crawford would keep ridiculing him). He's actually made a few halting steps away from the dark side so we have to keep hope alive; or some corny slogan like that.

Captain Hate

Hold his feet to the fire and remind him who put him there, Jane!!!

Porchlight

I don't think Ace is cut out for this job. I predict he isn't able to hack it and will be semi-retired by the middle of President P.'s administration.

Captain Hate

Better that than to follow the Cahrlse Jhonnso trajectory, Porch.

jimmyk

Scotty Centerfold suggested he might vote for Hairy Reed's plan.

Let's remember this the next time someone says we're better off with "electable" Republicans (or perhaps that should be electable "Republicans") than true conservative candidates.

jwest

For those who don’t like the option of walking away from our national debt and using our military to extort money from the rest of the world, here’s a solution that Washington would love.

I will personally pay off the national debt, plus give the country 5 trillion in additional funds.

How would this be accomplished? The U.S. would sell me all mineral rights for the entire Outer Continental Shelf of the U.S., up to a 400 mile limit. For these rights, I’ll sign a note for an even 20 trillion. Part of this note is a provision that the U.S. advance the funds from a special coining of 20 palladium trillion dollar coins, which will be redeemed over the 100 year term on a graduated, back-loaded repayment schedule.

At that point, the U.S. would be debt-free, have a 5 trillion dollar surplus, no interest payments and an entry in the ledgers that would be just as solid as the Social Security Trust Fund. As was shown during the heady days of no-documentation home loans, all it takes is two parties who really want to believe it will all work out.

Stephanie

Me, too, CH. I usually just stop over there for the scintillating headlines and the Doom updates. He is usually the least informed conservative blogger (ranking right up there with that purveyor of comity "He's a Good Man" Patterico) which is why I don't usually wade into his comments section.

He attempts to put the schooling to the morons and gets his clock cleaned over and over. Then the ban hammer comes out and he ends up acting like Obama on a 'good' day... two months later a post appears that starts with 'some of you may have been right." Full of fail. But funny. And tragic.

Ben Franklin

http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=105164106&channelId=2951&buyerId=newsmeatcom&buid=3281

Japan PM pledges 'revolutionary' energy shift

by Hiroshi Hiyama
AFP Asian Edition

Jul 29, 2011 11:00 EDT

Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan on Friday pledged a "revolutionary" shift away from atomic power and towards renewable energy in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.


His cabinet also agreed on a plan to rebuild after the quake and tsunami disaster of March 11, saying reconstruction would cost around 19 trillion yen ($245 billion) over the next five years.

The embattled premier, who has been fighting calls to resign amid rock-bottom poll ratings, was speaking as a government panel said it would spend the rest of the year working on a new energy strategy.

"We have made a significant decision on energy policy, including nuclear power," Kan said in a televised press conference.

"As a medium-term revolutionary energy and environmental strategy, we have decided to start a thorough review of nuclear power policy and draw a roadmap for a reduction of the dependence on nuclear power.

"The Japanese government will aim for a society that does not depend on nuclear power and reduce its dependence on nuclear power in a planned and step-by-step manner."

Earlier Friday the national policy minister, Koichiro Gemba, assigned by Kan to draft a plan to reduce atomic energy use, said the government would spend a year drafting a new "roadmap" on energy policy.

"It will require nationwide discussion," Gemba told a briefing. "Our basic stance is to reduce (nuclear power) while thoroughly improving its safety."

narciso

Meanwhile this is what 'democracy looks like'
would you believe, a labor organization is behind this?

As backers of several high-profile ballot measures hit the streets looking for signatures, a new radio ad has surfaced warning listeners that signing initiative petitions puts voters “at risk for identity theft.”

The 60-second spot, which is airing on at least one Southern California radio station, features a man telling his spouse she should not have signed a petition at the grocery store.

“The Legislature called it an identity theft starter kit. Now we really need to watch our bank statements and credit information,” he says.

“That’s it, I’m not singing any more petitions,” the woman responds. “I guess the lesson here is not to give our name and address to anyone we don’t know.”

The identity of the group behind the ad remains a mystery, but the timing of the launch suggests its aim is to derail one of several high-profile measures currently trying to qualify for the 2012 ballot.
(h/t Protein Wisdom)

The spot claims to be paid for by a group called “Californians Against Identity Theft.” The coalition has no website and has not filed a campaign committee with the Secretary of State, though the content of the ad likely would not trigger disclosure requirements because it does not mention a specific measure or candidate.

Frau Fragezeichen

The crafty and devious Cheney with GWB as Mini-Me. My favorites and always welcome!

(bad's dibs stand...)

Captain Hate

Stephanie, the comments section is the funniest on the interwebbz imo. I come here for the insight and there for teh funneh and raunch. I'll give Ace credit for one thing: He owned up that Breitbart told him that he doesn't read his posts but goes right to the comments. Granted he was doing some obvious name-dropping there but also some deliberate self-pawnage.

Porchlight

Hahahha:

benpolitico Ben Smith

RT @ttagaris: Barack Obama has lost over 10,000 Twitter followers today with the state based tweet-a-thon they are continuing

22 minutes ago

Extraneus

Would you pls explain what that means to a non-tweeter, Porch? Did he spam them and they unfollowed him so as to not receive any more messages?

Porchlight

Stephanie, the comments section is the funniest on the interwebbz imo.

I agree. And like Breitbart, I go straight to the comments, too. I just wish Ace would stay out of them but he is veering toward CJ land, as Cap'n and Stephanie point out.

Was just remembering the Scott Beauchamp threads in the Ace comments a couple of years ago. Some of the funiest stuff ever.

Porchlight

Did he spam them and they unfollowed him so as to not receive any more messages?

Ext, yes, I think that's what it means.

Ben Franklin


http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/


From Charles Krauthammer and Douglas Holtz-Eakin on down, responsible conservatives aren’t just telling House Republicans that they should pass Boehner’s bill because it will strengthen the Speaker’s hand in negotiations with the Senate and the White House (which is true). They’re telling Republicans that they should pass the bill because the Democrats wouldn’t dare oppose it. But what happens when the bill passes, the Democrats do successfully oppose it, and it becomes clear — as, in fact, it’s clear already — that the final debt ceiling legislation will have to be a compromise between the Boehner and Reid bills (maybe with a little of Mitch McConnell’s procedural magic thrown in), which will probably have to be passed with some combination of moderate Democratic and moderate Republican votes? Won’t right-wing activists be able to claim that this was the mother of all betrayals? Won’t Tea Party groups be able to insist that their opposition to Boehner’s bill was entirely vindicated? (See, we told you that this would lead to a sell-out compromise with Reid and Obama!) Isn’t the House leadership just setting itself up for a narrative where it gets accused of running a bait and switch, and tricking conservatives into providing cover for a bipartisan sell-out?

Rick Ballard

"But I am not buying the idea that if the Tea Partiers don't come around, it will be the end of the world and all their fault."

Hear, hear, Boatbuilder. I was sure (and wrong) yesterday that the Tea Party folks were going to bend and I thought they might lose effectiveness from hanging too tough. I now believe that I may have been wrong on the second aspect as well.

Hanging tough may prove to be a great recruiting tool.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

More email from Barack Obama:

Today's message is KEEP CALLING!

Ben Franklin

"Hanging tough may prove to be a great recruiting tool."

Just like firing into retreating troops fleeing your command.

narciso

You all were 'dying to hear' what the Pegster thinks of all this, sarc:

But that actually is not what I want to talk about. I want to talk about something that started to become apparent to me during the debt negotiations. It's something I've never seen in national politics.

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noonan0730
Martin Kozlowski
noonan0730
noonan0730

It is that nobody loves Obama. This is amazing because every president has people who love him, who feel deep personal affection or connection, who have a stubborn, even beautiful refusal to let what they know are just criticisms affect their feelings of regard. At the height of Bill Clinton's troubles there were always people who'd say, "Look, I love the guy." They'd often be smiling—a wry smile, a shrugging smile. Nobody smiles when they talk about Mr. Obama. There were people who loved George W. Bush when he was at his most unpopular, and they meant it and would say it. But people aren't that way about Mr. Obama. He has supporters and bundlers and contributors, he has voters, he may win. But his support is grim support. And surely this has implications.

Captain Hate

Rick there has been a strange dynamic to the whole thing; starting with the Jugeared Fellow not doing a damn thing.

narciso

I'm so glad, that the rules of civility are firmly in place:

?http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/politico-calls-tea-party-full-grown-terrorists/

Jane says obamasucks

Hold his feet to the fire and remind him who put him there, Jane!!!

I've declined the invite.

Ben Franklin


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/it-begins-politico-calls-tea-party-full-blown-terrorists/


The Politico reported:

It has become commonplace to call the tea party faction in the House “hostage takers.” But they have now become full-blown terrorists.

They have joined the villains of American history who have been sufficiently craven to inflict massive harm on innocent victims to achieve their political goals. A strong America has always stood firm in the face of terrorism. That tradition is in jeopardy, as Congress and President Barack Obama careen toward an uncertain outcome in the tea party- manufactured debt crisis.

As we stumble closer to Aug. 2, it has become clear that many in the tea party are willing to inflict massive harm on the American people to obtain their political objective of a severely shrunken federal government. Their persistence in rejecting compromise, even as the economic effects of the phony crisis they have created mount, has taken their radicalism beyond tough negotiating, beyond even hostage-taking.

Ben Franklin

Triple A credit rating------------let the mourning commence,

Rick Ballard

CH,

Perhaps El JEFe has learned that he is incapable in so many respects that his only path forward is to Sit! and Stay! as the white boy advisers originally dictated. The troika might not be doing any worse but they're sure not doing any better wrt making choices.

The dynamic is actually being driven (IMO) by the speed of failure of the prog slaver paradigm compounded by the failure of the pseudo-Keynesian models to describe and prescribe for a deep balance sheet recession. The failure highlights the reason why progs are always seeking a level of stasis generally achieved only with death. Dead things are ever so much easier to measure...

matt

I ran into my neighbor this morning and listened to his 10 minute rant about the Democrats and Obama. He's normally a pretty low key guy, but he has had it.

I think there is a lot of that out there now, and as the Dems are exposed without a plan and a clue, this could be a defining moment.

The whole 14th Amendment argument being put forth by the Left could become the tinder for a new revolution.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

BF:

That Politico piece is craven.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Dead things are ever so much easier to measure...

They vote their way too.

Boatbuilder

"...a severely shrunken federal government." Hahahahahaha. Really? Are they that stupid, or do they just think their readers are?

Ben Franklin

"Sit! and Stay!"

I think that's his position. Bohner's theme song "It's my Party, and I'll cry if I want to............" has the Tea Party squarely identified as the dynamic driving this spectacle.

centralcal

Have the granddaughters here for the weekend - can't call them the short people anymore, they are as tall as me! Anyway, time online is limited (one on the laptop, one on the iPad for now), so when does the vote in the House happen? I want to make sure at least one TV is tuned to Cspan.

Ben Franklin

"Craven" I fear it will worsen, sara.

If the BF/JOM experiment with so few involved was impossible to sustain, and I think it is a valid comparison, then it seems darkness prevails in, at least, the near-term.

narciso

Orewll predicted this kind of mutilation of the language in 1946, this is where NewSpeak arises from.

narciso

Yes, Boatbuilder, on both counts.

Old Lurker

jwest per your 4:09, two questions:

When you buy the mineral rights, how will you have the deed written so that the Seller warrants to pass no law or regulation denying you access to the rights you are buying?

Second, can Rick and I have rights to sell derivatives related to the transaction to grannies and institutions around the world?

Melinda Romanoff

I'll fill those orders for you, OL.

(Nice lunch w/YL today, BTW. All is well.)

PaulL

****It's like one of those advanced karate punches, DoT, where years later the victim suddenly keels over and dies.

Posted by: Extraneus | July 29, 2011 at 01:46 PM****

Yep, that's how they got Bruce Lee in 1973. Bruce had revealed secret Kung Fu techniques and so as punishment some unidentified master used the vibrating palm technique on him.

And you'll recall, in 2009, David Carradine actually killed himself with a variation of the vibrating palm.

jwest

Old Lurker,

The unimpeded access and exploitation clause is what gives the note life (and some semblance of believability).

I only want a small percentage of the stock sales to pay for necessities (along with fuel, maintenance and crews for those necessities). You and Rick are welcome to participate.

centralcal

Go Boehner!!!! On the House floor right now, via FNC - live.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

This is for Iggy:

Today is: Lumberjack Day

For the rest of you, it is:

National Talk in an Elevator Day

I'm waiting for tomorrow and I'm already prepared for:

Cheesecake Day

Sara (Pal2Pal)

If the BF/JOM experiment with so few involved was impossible to sustain

BF:

It takes two to tango, rise above.

MJW

BF: Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan on Friday pledged a "revolutionary" shift away from atomic power and towards renewable energy in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

The Japanese already have a word for this: Hara-kari.

Extraneus

Yeah, that vibrating palm is a killer for sure. During a little league game, the father of a fellow player of my son's, who stayed at home while the rest of his family was at the game, had the same problem as Carradine.

Everyone had a different story to tell their kids after that, so the boys' comparing of notes was difficult.

But that was then.

Have the granddaughters here for the weekend - can't call them the short people anymore, they are as tall as me!

Now, after recently turning 14, he's taller than me, and as we've started working out together, he's also stronger than me on about half of the machines!

Bittersweet, for sure. Apparently I'll be living vicariously sooner than I thought possible.

Old Lurker

Mel you are a good friend to watch over YL. Please debrief Mr.YL when he returns from his summer at the evil empire.

jwest

Old Lurker,

I think I would sell off the Western Shelf to China for 15 trillion. I’d take 5 trillion down and give them terms on the balance. With that 5 trillion, I would redeem 5 coins, make a 4 trillion payment on my note, and keep one coin to flip jauntily whilst in a pinstriped suit.

Ben Franklin

Charles Johnson and Pam Geller engaged in linguistic fisticuffs over
Breivik, and her close encounter with same.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38949_Pamela_Geller_Edits_Post_to_Conceal_V

Melinda Romanoff

I'm afraid I may have pre-seeded some Street distaste before his departure. I now know it has stuck.

Rick Ballard

OL,

Do you prefer Swahili or Urdu for the offering prospectus? I assume that First Bank of St. Janes will clear all transactions and that any disputes will be resolved under the laws and ordinances of St. Janes (with final determination reserved to SJSC). My participation will, as always, be limited to performance of the accounting and audit functions in exchange for prompt reimbursement of all reasonable and necessary expenses incurred (as determined by SJASB standards, 2011 edition).

PS - if we go with Urdu on the prospectus I can use standard SCAM boilerplate and have it ready by Monday.

Extraneus

Excellent, jwest. I'm all for it.

Will you be trading in the wife's surprise gift of a Jaguar convertible at that point? That was you, wasn't it?

Sara (Pal2Pal)

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Moody's will likely affirm the United States' triple-A credit rating with a negative outlook, the ratings agency said on Friday, signaling that there will be no immediate downgrade but could one come in the medium term.

scott

The JEF Show was super-awesome this morning! I can't wait for Monday's new episode 'Tweet you bitches'. I here JEF goes all OG with the WH press corpse!!

narciso

Urdu like the President's favorite poets, that way Dubai can sign off on it, Rick

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