In 2008 the media swooned for the tabula rasa candidate. Now they are in mid-swoon for the tabula rasa protest movement that stands for, well, whatever you want to believe it stands for.
So far the Occupy Wall Sreet crowd have been too shrewd to embarass or divide their coalition by actually presenting an agenda. That can't last for fourteen months. Eventually, they will tell America what they want and America will recoil.
It's pretty simple really. "Let them Fail" was a catchy phrase and was highly successful. Now, you're so invested, emotionally, in making Obama fail, you can't see the petroglyphs on your cave wall.
"Accounability'.....so simple, even you can't see it.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 01:15 PM
--making Obama fail--
LOL.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 01:18 PM
--making Obama fail--
I love being powerful!
Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2011 at 01:21 PM
Tee hee:
New Department of Justice documents the House Oversight Committee released Thursday morning show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed on Operation Fast and Furious many more times than previously discovered documents suggested. They also show that Holder was given detailed information on what happened in Fast and Furious.
Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2011 at 01:23 PM
I will be surprised if Taranto doesn't snag that "tabula rasa/the circle closes" bit.
Posted by: Alice still lives here | October 06, 2011 at 01:24 PM
Ben Franklin:
Obama failed on his own. He rejected efforts to come into the Bush efforts to save the economy during the transition. (Remember the one president at a time mantra?) The stimulus was badly designed in a hurry in a way that excluded GOP leaders. And the healthcare reform first monomania poisoned the political well, did not address the concerns of the electorate, and ensured that, by the time the dodd-Frank bill came up, all the bank lobbyists had plenty of time to get their mojo back and ensure the resulting bill just ensured that too big to fail got to stay with us.
The GOP is not responsible for Obama's initial failure. To the extent that it is responsible for Obama's recent plunge, it's because Obama can't negotiaite, and the GOP stuck to the platform they ran on.
Accountability gpes back to Obama, in the end. He controlled the agenda in the first two years of his term, and botched the job.
Posted by: Appalled | October 06, 2011 at 01:25 PM
They've been drafted into an Army of Debt and are pissed.
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Posted by: Where's this crew's Pentagon Papers? | October 06, 2011 at 01:27 PM
"...... and botched the job."
Quiet ! Hear that ? It's the sound of knee-cap sucking.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 01:28 PM
Furiously nailing Holder fast.
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Posted by: Obama's stuck to the tarbaby. | October 06, 2011 at 01:29 PM
Dana's kneejerk thinks it's a job well done.
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Posted by: Obama's stuck to the tarbaby. | October 06, 2011 at 01:32 PM
Oops, nick was supposed to be: Reflexes of a scorpion.
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Posted by: Clear for diving. | October 06, 2011 at 01:33 PM
--Quiet ! Hear that ? It's the sound of knee-cap sucking.--
Infantile.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Actually, the OWS dopes have published a list of demands, and they are absolutely priceless.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 01:34 PM
The ahReverennnd Jacksnnnn says Steve Jobs would have supported the OWS movement, and otherwise generally makes a fool of himself.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 01:45 PM
That's his default setting, Danube, if you wanted an absolute parody of what the left would turn out to be, you can't do better than OWS.
Posted by: narciso | October 06, 2011 at 01:51 PM
What does the good reverend say about his buddy, the shooter in yesterday's bloodbath in California?
Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2011 at 01:56 PM
A bit of the old ultra-violence from the OWS folks last night. Imagine if Tea Partiers had ever done this.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 01:57 PM
"He controlled the agenda in the first two years of his term, and botched the job."
Appalled,
He was definitely in the front seat during the agenda's no survivor collision with reality but Ayers/Emmanuel had the wheel. He has done no better on his own than he did when he was sitting and rolling over at their command but some small consideration must be given to the fact that implementation of the progressive agenda can only be successfully effected in the absence of reality.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | October 06, 2011 at 02:10 PM
"A few hundred protesters attempted to breach this security ring, according to a police officer I spoke with. (He wasn't authorized to speak, so I won't name him.)
The police resisted, and at one point an officer resorted to the swinging his night stick. Other police pepper-sprayed protesters, according to multiple people on the scene."
Such violent protestors. Imagine trying to walk down a public street. Truncheons are too good for them.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 02:11 PM
Media team arrested and live streaming from the paddy wagon.
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Posted by: What, no drunks? I don't believe it's real. | October 06, 2011 at 02:16 PM
RBallard/Appalled -- you're too polite. The whole Bam/Harry/Nancy 'progressive' agenda was an obvious jobs and economic growth killer. TM and the regular JOM posters explained why in thousands of lines of text in 2008-2010. Now we are all allowed to scream I told you so-- that is our right for being right. it is also our right to use all legal means to make sure these mistakes aren't repeated by convincing enough voters to chuck out these progressive fools and crooks in 2012 elections. And BTW-- the progressive coalition knows they are electoral LOSERS in 2012 -- so now comes the fraud. In 1989 Bill Lynch stole the NYC mayoral election from Giuliani. Expect in 2012 an APB to go out to the big city vote cheats in swing states -- Phila., Richmond/Arlington, Cleveland, Denver, Charlotte, Tampa/Miami etc etc to get the votes in to swing those states to BAM. That's the only chance Bam has-- if you don't take that seriously, you haven't been paying attention to 'urban' vote patterns for at least 23 years.
Posted by: NK | October 06, 2011 at 02:28 PM
--Such violent protestors. Imagine trying to walk down a public street. Truncheons are too good for them.--
Guess it doesn't support the narrative to quote from the same story what one of the protesters said;
An OWS guy there can admit the truth but not good ol Ben.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 02:44 PM
Imagine trying to walk down a public street.
Can't walk in the street anywhere that I know of. Even when the police haven't cordoned it off.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 02:46 PM
The Rev. Jackson sees dead people.
Posted by: MarkO | October 06, 2011 at 02:58 PM
Here you go:
Are these fools classic rent-seekers, or what?
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 03:01 PM
During the Massachusetts Senate debate earlier this week, Elizabeth Warren and the other Dem candidates were reminded by the debate moderator that Scott Brown had posed nude in college, and asked what they had done to pay for school. ”I kept my clothes on,” Warren joked, to laughter from the crowd.
INTERVIEWER: Have you officially responded to Elizabeth Warren’s comment about how she didn’t take her clothes off?
SCOTT BROWN: [LAUGHTER] Thank God.
Posted by: Neo | October 06, 2011 at 03:04 PM
Via RCP today.... The WaPo tries to deflect the Republican argument that repealing Obamacare is a jobs program... The effort to counteract it means the internal polling in the White House must find this very damaging in the long run:
Ask Republicans about jobs, they’ll answer about Obamacare
I smell real fear.
Posted by: Ranger | October 06, 2011 at 03:07 PM
RCP Average down to 42.4%, an all-time low.
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 03:15 PM
Anyone heard from Bill Daley lately? Wonder why not?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 06, 2011 at 03:22 PM
Neo: audio is here. It runs for about 5 minutes.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 06, 2011 at 03:25 PM
I have to go all in for Herman Cain because yesterday Dennis Miller said he might consider being Herman Cain's White House Press Spokesman.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 03:27 PM
There she goes going walking down the street, singing do-wah-ditty-ditty-dum-ditty-do...
Posted by: cathyf | October 06, 2011 at 03:29 PM
I have to go all in for Herman Cain because yesterday Dennis Miller said he might consider being Herman Cain's White House Press Spokesman.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 03:27 PM
That would be a hoot. How many of the White House press corps would flee it terror?
Posted by: Ranger | October 06, 2011 at 03:32 PM
"RCP Average down to 42.4%, an all-time low."
Racists.
While I'm on the topic I raised anyway, does it seem to anyone else that the vast progress made in thinking and acting about racial equality in this country has been made largely by White Americans? Does it seem to anyone else that the leaders of Black America are not interested in equality under the law or even equality of opportunity? Does Holder cary a card (apparently a literal race card) that says "race first"?
Is it all just so much pretense? That might explain why Mrs. Obama was never proud of her country.
Oh well, back to my white sheet.
Posted by: MarkO | October 06, 2011 at 03:33 PM
A Saudi tries to open door to cockpit on an AA flight to Indianapolis from JFK after trans-atlantic flight from Riyahd. LUN
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 06, 2011 at 03:33 PM
He just flat gave it all away with 'typical white person'.
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Posted by: Why was I the only one who heard that? | October 06, 2011 at 03:34 PM
Obama has been driving our country's energy programs into the ground, and the latest, the Keystone XL pipeline farce and the frakking protests, are, I believe a calculated policy of the Left to promote green energy and on a deeper level bring the economy to it's knees.
When you have David Fenton as the propagandist and his history of support for America's enemies, the possibility, if not probability of such a policy especially with the facts already out there, is high. LUN
Posted by: matt | October 06, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Dave(in MA), I appreciate your point on the other thread that Warren is going to trounce Brown in towns and cities with folks who would be offended by Brown's comment anyway, so this shouldn't hurt him. However, I think Brown is going to need every vote he can get. I can see the argument that anyone who would be a voter who might vote for Brown wouldn't let this tilt them toward Warren. I hope so. Perhaps Brown will even gain votes because some folks will think the exchange shows Warren is an insufferable snot, and Brown has a good sense of humor.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | October 06, 2011 at 03:38 PM
Good point, TC.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 06, 2011 at 03:40 PM
((((Boehner praises Obama’s anti-terror efforts
By Sean Lengell - The Washington Times
The House speaker said Obama’s done a better job in Afghanistan than the Bush administration...)) LUN
When I first read the above I was outragedn but on further reflection realize that Boehner's pointed "praise" of Obama is actually a sneak attack designed to discourage Obama's anti-war supporters, rubbing their nose in it, as it were.
Posted by: Chubby | October 06, 2011 at 03:43 PM
A Freeper describing Dennis Miller - "You are brighter than 300 burning Renaults on a cool Paris night."
Posted by: Janet | October 06, 2011 at 03:43 PM
The ahReverennnd Jacksnnnn says Steve Jobs would have supported the OWS movement, and otherwise generally makes a fool of himself.
After reading Jobs commencement speech he gave at Stanford, it seems highly unlikely to me that he would support OWS.
Does anyone else see the irony in these protesters protesting capitalism and corporate evil while texting on their smart phones and posting from their iPads? Do they ever stop to think were their toys come from or the money in R&D and manufacturing and jobs it took to put these toys in their hands.
They have come by bus, train, and plane to protest in NYC. Do they stop to think that someone funds and runs these entities and jobs are created as a result. Dirty capitalists and corporations, have they no shame providing iPhones, iPads, 747s, and Greyhound busses, etc, etc.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 06, 2011 at 03:44 PM
Loved what someone called this stunt: "Tahrir Envy".
Posted by: The Sanity Inspector | October 06, 2011 at 03:44 PM
They have come by bus, train, and plane to protest in NYC.
My kids got a "those idiot anarchists" speech when I spotted a guy with an anarchist symbol on his t-shirt waiting for a bus here in Arlington.
idiot.
Posted by: Janet | October 06, 2011 at 03:52 PM
I last saw Bill Daley in the back of the room at today's presser. Shifting from foot to foot, he looked antsy and uncomfortable. Jay Carney beside him seemed to be gazing in orgasmic wonder at Our Lady of Fatima.
Posted by: DebinNC | October 06, 2011 at 03:58 PM
MarkO, I think most racial progress has been achieved by individuals of whatever hue motivated by the self-evident truths articulated in our Declaration.
Posted by: Thomas Collins | October 06, 2011 at 04:08 PM
Here's your list.....
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/
OFFICIAL List of Occupy Wall Street Protest Demands
Posted on October 6, 2011 by WashingtonsBlog
OFFICIAL List of Demands from Wall Street Protest
Here is the official list of demands:
We – the 99% – DEMAND …
1.
2.
!!!
No Official Demands
If you can’t see the list, you’re not alone.
Contrary to widespread myth, there is not an official list.
When Fox Nation reports on an official list, they’re wrong.
When brilliant and dedicated activists point to official lists, they’re mistaken.
When people call OccupyWallSt.org the official site for the protests and cite various lists there as official (there were over 1,000 different proposed lists at last count), they are incorrect . That website itself states:
OccupyWallSt.org is the unofficial de facto online resource for the ongoing protests happening on Wall Street. We are an affinity group committed to doing technical support work for resistance movements. We are not affiliated with Adbusters, anonymous or any other organization.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 04:28 PM
How Did Steve Jobs Do It without Obama?
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 06, 2011 at 04:31 PM
does it seem to anyone else that the vast progress made in thinking and acting about racial equality in this country has been made largely by White Americans? Does it seem to anyone else that the leaders of Black America are not interested in equality under the law or even equality of opportunity?
I think more progress was made by black people before Welfare, Food Stamps and Affirmative Action. After that, the lure of free rent was and continues to be irresistible. So-called "black leaders" are nothing but rent seekers now, which wasn't the case before the free stuff started getting handed out.
I think AA was possibly the biggest mistake ever Made in America, perhaps even bigger than slavery. A complete repudiation of our Constitutional guaranty of equality under the law, which continues to pervert the inner workings of all of our large institutions.
As for racial preferences in general, just look at some of the results:
- Millions of broken or dysfunctional black families
- Tens of millions of black abortions
- CRA --> Real estate meltdown
- Obama
Bleh. It's depressing that this has continued for so long in our supposed Constitutional system.
Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2011 at 04:41 PM
Breaking on FOX.
The head of the DOE Loan Program that authorized the Solyndra loan is stepping down ASAP.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 04:45 PM
How disappointing that Herman Cain will not consider being a VP candidate with Perry (ostensibly over his immigration and tuition policies). But, he will consider it with Romney?
Good grief!
Posted by: centralcal | October 06, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Yeah, daddy - it is all over twitter. Someone said they really screwed up, because that is supposed to happen at 4:30 pm on FRIDAY, not on a Thursday. lol!
Posted by: centralcal | October 06, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Does it seem to anyone else that the leaders of Black America are not interested in equality under the law or even equality of opportunity?
Ya think?
Posted by: Rob Crawford | October 06, 2011 at 04:54 PM
Here's the story of the Solyndra Loan guy stepping down. Solyndra controversy claims casualty as head of Energy Department loan program steps down.
Stephen Chu says the guy "did outstanding work" and “Under his [Silver’s] leadership, the loan program has demonstrated considerable success, with a broad portfolio of investments that will help American companies compete in the global clean energy market.”
I am so glad that everybody in Washington is wonderful or marvelous or outstanding and nobody is an incompetent boob.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 04:59 PM
--Oh, stop being a grouch, DoT, it's a perfectly normal idiom ;-)
There she goes going walking down the street, singing do-wah-ditty-ditty-dum-ditty-do.......--
....bump, bump and a squeal of tires.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 05:00 PM
Ya think?
Hahahaha!
I think it was DoT that mentioned 1 Samuel 22:1-2 to describe the OWS protesters as Adullamites. Here it is -
"1 David therefore departed from there and escaped to the cave of Adullam. So when his brothers and all his father’s house heard it, they went down there to him. 2 And everyone who was in distress, everyone who was in debt, and everyone who was discontented gathered to him. So he became captain over them. And there were about four hundred men with him."
LOL! I had written it down & forgot to look. Very funny!
Posted by: Janet | October 06, 2011 at 05:01 PM
"There she goes going walking down the street, singing do-wah-ditty-ditty-dum-ditty-do...""
When my sugar walks down the street
All the birdies go tweet-tweet-tweet
I have often walked
On this steet before
Just direct your feet
To the sunny side of the Street
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 05:05 PM
I think it was DoT that mentioned 1 Samuel 22:1-2 to describe the OWS protesters as Adullamites.
The more things change...
Posted by: Rob Crawford | October 06, 2011 at 05:08 PM
A picture is worth 1,000 words: The new tea party? Ha.
And a close up would be even more striking for the differences. And will they leave the place cleaner than they found it, odds are no they will not.
Posted by: Sara (Pal2Pal) | October 06, 2011 at 05:10 PM
"Contrary to widespread myth, there is not an official list."
Widespread myth? How many people have described those thirteen demands as official?
Talk about protesting too much...
Posted by: Danube of Thought | October 06, 2011 at 05:11 PM
it is all over twitter
I must be getting old. I don't even know what this means.
But! Is this the guy who testified at the House hearing, Jonathan Silver? If so, is he the same guy who approved the recent billion or so of additional loan guarantees to other green-scam companies before the deadline when the "program" was set to expire?
Did they keep him in there until he could get all the money shoveled out, and then make him the fall guy? If so, he must have a sweet gig lined up somewhere else.
Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2011 at 05:11 PM
Nathan Lewis at Forbes with some excellent and seldom heard common sense on the Euro and Europe.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 05:13 PM
Ooops, should have refreshed.
Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2011 at 05:13 PM
Adullamites and then all the street lyrics. DoT. did you get into the liquor cabinet early or something?
Posted by: Clarice | October 06, 2011 at 05:14 PM
--If so, he must have a sweet gig lined up somewhere else.--
Hope he picks his new employer better than he picked his loan recipients or it could be a pretty short gig.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 05:14 PM
"Does it seem to anyone else that the leaders of Black America are not interested in equality under the law or even equality of opportunity
http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2011/10/06/video-at-national-press-club-pigford-attorney-publicly-reveals-conspiracy-to-defraud-the-federal-government/
Anyone seem any effort whatsoever by the Obama Admin to stop this?
Posted by: pagar | October 06, 2011 at 05:15 PM
Look who else is gonna get in on the OWS fun...Cindy Sheehan!!
The last city listed is "Occupy Tijuana"....is there anyone still alive down there? Didn't F&F take care of them?
from Flares Into Darkness
Posted by: Janet | October 06, 2011 at 05:17 PM
No Official Demands
A protest movement about nothing-Seinfeldian Perfection. Maybe we can get Vandelay Industries to pass out job offers to the Great White Jamahiriya Stinking Up Wall Street.
Good grief, and Obama mumbled something of support today (which is unexpected since this is an Organizing for America production).
Posted by: RichatUF | October 06, 2011 at 05:17 PM
Why didn't the media ask Obama, after demonizing and attacking rich millionaire CEOs for the past three months, aren't you really glad Steve Jobs is dead, so now you can tax away his wealth to pend on your trivial and wasteful green jobs for bundlers program?
Seriously, why has no one mentioned the fact Steve Jobs was the villian, the horrible person that the liberals, the President, MSNBC constantly rail against and now they turn all levy dovey for a few days and all is forgotten.
Why is MSNBC asking Apple employees and Apple customers if they are joyous that Jobs is dead because he can no longer make them ubmit to his coproate greed.
Posted by: Pops | October 06, 2011 at 05:21 PM
I can see why Cain, a businessman, could see himself working with Romney, a businessman, and not Perry. Romney's released his job creating plan, Cain's got his 9-9-9 plan, and Perry's released no plan or even particulars, relying, instead, on a verbal "look at Texas".
Posted by: DebinNC | October 06, 2011 at 05:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2050190134946&set=a.1392318888576.2059094.1250270613&type=1&ref=nf
Iowawk..
Posted by: Clarice | October 06, 2011 at 05:31 PM
Shorter Obama; "The beatings will not commence until morale meltdown"
http://www.emptywheel.net/
"The president can’t go around saying prosecute somebody. But as a general principle, if somebody is engaged in fraudulent actions, they need to be prosecuted. If they’ve violated laws on the books, they need to be prosecuted. And that’s the attorney general’s job. And I know that Attorney General Holder, U.S. attorneys all across the country — they take that job very seriously. [my emphasis]"
His comments are funny for a number of reasons. Apparently, the President can’t go around saying “prosecute somebody,” but he can go around saying, “assassinate somebody.”
More curiously, though, he insists that if someone has engaged in “fraudulent actions, they need to be prosecuted.”
FHFA has sued 18 banks, a number of them for fraud, most of them in federal court. As part of those suits, it has sued a number of named individuals. DOJ, however, seems to have no interest in all those entities accused of fraud.
More troubling still, mortgage servicers have, in sworn depositions, admitted to fraud of a variety of types.
And yet Associate Attorney General Thomas Perrelli is busy trying to craft a settlement–not a prosecution–with those who engaged in this fraud. (And in the wake of CA’s withdrawal from the settlement talks, the banks are crowing that DOJ is still going to sign such a deal.)
The Administration needs to be asked not just why no big banksters have been prosecuted, but also why in the face of massive fraudulent actions, DOJ is choosing to settle, rather than prosecute.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 05:34 PM
Given the nature of the Holder hires, I expect emptywheel, that even if by some chance they wanted to prosecute they couldn't, because they can't figure out even where the courthouses are.
Posted by: Clarice | October 06, 2011 at 05:39 PM
The Administration needs to be asked not just why no big banksters have been prosecuted, but also why in the face of massive fraudulent actions, DOJ is choosing to settle, rather than prosecute.
What does she think all that Wall Street money flowing into the Obamaco campaign in 08 was meant to buy? Maybe she should have paid attention to who was contributing to Obama and how much while he was running for president.
Posted by: Ranger | October 06, 2011 at 05:40 PM
Here's a good interview with Perry explaining his governing position on illegal immigration in Texas, and his stance on national illegal immigration:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/rick-perry-continues-to-oppose-dream-act-and-sanctuary-cities/
Posted by: OldTimer | October 06, 2011 at 06:11 PM
A dove superimposed on top of a cogwheel. Nope ... no ties here to anything remotely connected to Marxism. Move along.
Posted by: fdcol63 | October 06, 2011 at 06:12 PM
The commenters over at this CNBC story don't seem to agree with Jeffrey Imelt's praise for Solyndra like loans.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 06:13 PM
What's that thing hanging over Cindy Sheehan's head?
My guess is an ugly stick about to whomp her again.
Posted by: Ignatz | October 06, 2011 at 06:28 PM
I guess Romney's sitting pretty right now, but I hope Perry is able to pull it out. Voters will have a hard time considering Cain's experience as qualifying, and I don't think he can pull it off. And who else even has a chance?
I'd bet that Palin could still be convinced to get in, and would prefer the idea of being drafted rather than appearing too eager. As long as it doesn't look like she engineered it, even if she did.
At any rate, I hope Perry gets his act together post haste. Tuesday is the next debate, and he'd better be on his game by then, or else.
Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2011 at 06:29 PM
Daddy,
You might want to slap this link in the comments section following the next local story regarding drilling Chukchi.
I wonder what the permit and legal defense line item for the Rosneft/XOM JV totals? $10K? Perhaps as much as $50K?
How do you say "Drill, baby, drill." in Russian?
Posted by: Rick Ballard | October 06, 2011 at 06:37 PM
Does it seem to anyone else that the leaders of Black America are not interested in equality under the law or even equality of opportunity?
Leaders, maybe. I've got a number of black friends and co-workers and they are a helluva lot more conservative than black "leaders".
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 06:40 PM
Chaco;
Back from the Bug Hunt?
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 06:42 PM
After reading Jobs commencement speech he gave at Stanford, it seems highly unlikely to me that he would support OWS.
In fact, according to Steve Wozniac, Jobs' paradigm was Hank Reardon from Atlas Shrugged:
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 06:44 PM
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
- Isaac Asimov, column in Newsweek (21 January 1980).
I guess one could say that 'ignorance' is a subjective term, depending upon the context and the deliberate abuse of semantics. But it seems there is a smugness about purposeful ignorance which supplants 'confidence' and implants 'arrogance' as a measure of truthfullness. I question teh 'methodology'
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Imagine the drooling of this was one of the Koch demons?
Soros fails to quash insider trading conviction
Posted by: Extraneus | October 06, 2011 at 06:47 PM
Widespread myth? How many people have described those thirteen demands as official?
Well, obviously, more than if it were a narrowly-focused myth.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 06:48 PM
" I've got a number of black friends and co-workers and they are a helluva lot more conservative than black "leaders"."
Maybe you've intimidated them because you're so 'smart'
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 06:51 PM
Maybe you've intimidated them because you're so 'smart'
Nah, if being smarter was all that intimidating, you'd be quaking too hard to type.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 06:58 PM
Rick,
I especially liked this part from your Russian Arctic Oil Drilling link:
"Just to be on the safe side, Russia has prepared a justification for submitting in 2013 a new claim for the expansion of the borders of its Arctic shelf."
In other news, our Occupy Anchorage demonstrators today protested against corporate greed, even as The Alaska Permanent Fund today deposited $1,174 in Alaskans' bank accounts.
"Most Alaskans will be getting $1,174 in Permanent Fund dividends today.
It's a day widely anticipated by most residents, who get their yearly dividend from the state's vast oil wealth just for living in Alaska.
Most eligible Alaskans will get their dividends by direct deposit on Thursday. The rest will receive checks in the mail.
Voters passed a constitutional amendment in 1976 to establish the Permanent Fund as a way to stretch out the state's oil wealth for future generations."
Tax Big Oil! Tax the Corporations! E'ff the Man!
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 06:59 PM
The thing about the Asimov quote is that arrogant ignorace thing goes both ways. Al Gore, for example, seems to be more and more determined in his arrogance about CO2AGW the more conflicting information comes out.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 07:01 PM
Stephen Hayes just brought up an interesting point on the panel: Obama is all ready to prosecute banks who invested in risky ventures with money that was invested, yet he took money from people who had no interest in giving it to him and invested it in Solyndra, a very risky venture that we had no choice in, and effectively says "tough toenails".
Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2011 at 07:03 PM
"Nah, if being smarter was all that intimidating"
How did you fare proving your delusional assumption that I was
an anarchist academic?
I trust your busted knuckles are healing?
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 07:03 PM
"The thing about the Asimov quote is that arrogant ignorace thing goes both ways"
Were you aware of that this morning?
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 07:07 PM
I trust your busted knuckles are healing?
Dana, honey, you're once again forgetting that I've got your registration information from before you started using an anonimizer.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 07:12 PM
Were you aware of that this morning?
You're so cute when you sweat.
Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) | October 06, 2011 at 07:12 PM
Jane,
I'm on the sister channel, FOX Business News, listening to Lou Dobb's hollering about the same thing. It is evident that Lou does not believe a single word out of anyone in this Administration.
Wish we could get Roger Ailes to swap Lou's Show for The Five.
Posted by: daddy | October 06, 2011 at 07:13 PM
I wish I could get Fox Business. I should DEMAND IT!
Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2011 at 07:17 PM
and all these OWS protesters have kinda dropped the AGW urgency. Hatred for Wall street overrides love for Gaia.
Posted by: Janet | October 06, 2011 at 07:17 PM
Chaco;
Admitting error is your Achilles Heel. I've noticed that chink in your proverbial armor for some time now. It is a weakness, not a strength.
Get it?
I am not the guy you WERE convinced I was. Now, admit it and moveon.org. The Buddhist in you demands it.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin | October 06, 2011 at 07:17 PM
Secretary of Energy Palin, during this first week of the Cain Administration, requested that her department be abolished and her position eliminated. Coming hard upon the heels of the elimination of the departments of Education, Homeland Security, and Labor, the request was speedily accepted by the president, who called upon Senate Majority Leader George Allen again to...
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Posted by: Jim Ryan | October 06, 2011 at 07:17 PM