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Jack is Back!

I thought Flint had been bulldozed?

Why doesn't there favorite son, Michael Moore, pitch in and save those cop's jobs?

Neo

Vice President Joe Biden said … “murder rates are up, robberies are up, rapes are up”

This Administration is admitting that their law enforcement efforts are so bad that “murder rates are up, robberies are up, rapes are up.”

MarkO

Are these guys on meth?

narciso

'Forget it, he's rolling'

MayBee

Flint's population is also losing about 2000 people a year.

Trembling or Shivering?

Fear and Trembling in Flint.
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Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Last person leaving Flint turn out the CFLs.

Captain Hate

Rapes are up because Jennifer Granholm moved to Berkeley.

Danube of Thought

So this stimulus is partly about saving good union jobs for the Democrats.

Try "absolutely 100% about saving union jobs."

Captain Hate

'Forget it, he's rolling'

Sheriff Joe was feeling the heat of ManBearPig trying to wrest the coveted "Biggest Vice Presidential Dumbass" title from him but with his flurry of activity this week, the crown is safe.

Sue

"Gimmee a break"

Anyone want to give him a break?

MarkO

"Anyone want to give him a break?"

As in a broken nose?

fdcol63

Someone needs to ask Biden and Obama how many cops could have been hired by the $500 million they gave to Solyndra.

Clarice

He was the most experienced and respected "statesman" the party could think of to balance out a ticket headed by the almost hero of Altgeld Gardens

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Captain,
I put this on the other thread, but here is some Halloween candy for the Ace crew. Hobo candy cigarettes.

narciso

Don't forget he was this close to getting the Secretary of State job, snorfle.

Neo

"Gimmee a break"

Isn't "break" racist ?

narciso

Only if you use it as verb, Neo,

C.R.

I think Rove had the best description of Biden that I've heard to date. He said that Biden has the combination of longevity and long-windedness that pass for wisdom in Washington.

Jane

So this stimulus is partly about saving good union jobs for the Democrats.

Only "partly"? I'm impressed.

Danube of Thought

They're just like the Tea Party:

A well-known “Occupy Wall Street” protester who was arrested last Friday for kneeling down in prayer and blocking traffic in lower Manhattan is wanted in Indiana for failing to appear in court in connection with criminal charges filed after cops found him naked, intoxicated, and covered in olive oil in a public park. The bizarre nature of the charges against Michael Donte Booth, 27, were the subject of a previous TSG story after police discovered him sunbathing in the altogether in a Mishawaka park on May 24. Cops found Booth laying face up on a blanket “with his entire genitals showing.”


DebinNC

I'd love to see a national tally of the police overtime costs the "occupations" are causing.

fdcol63

If Obama's and the Dems' support for the OWS kooks doesn't backfire on them BIGTIME next year, I'm afraid it means that the country has indeed past the tipping point.

LouP

Why isn't this Flint, Michigan's problem? Why is it Joe Biden's problem?

(I know the answer, but the issue needs to be reframed.)

PD

Why doesn't there favorite son, Michael Moore, pitch in and save those cop's jobs?

Well, now. He's the one that says rich people's money belongs to "the people." So I'm sure he has already turned over his money to be used for good works and has nothing left for Flint.

Right?

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

More on DoT's praying oil guy - "Cops found Booth laying face up on a blanket “with his entire genitals showing.” Nearby, officers found the book “Gay Power,” a “Kroger bottle of extra virgin olive oil,” two cans of Miller beer, and Marlboro cigarettes, according to an arrest report."

'Dear God, please don't let them find out about the genital, Kroger oil, Gay Power incident. Amen'

narciso

I think the Miller beer and the cigarettes were the dealbreakers, otherwise it would have been all copacetic.

Not_Bubarooni

Try "absolutely 100% about saving union jobs."

my own wording would be a little more explicit:

Try "absolutely 100% about saving union dues."

i don't believe the jobs are the motivating factor here. union dues and their potential effect on the 2012 election are.

Danube of Thought

Just like the Tea Party, Part Deux (from Breitbardt):

Early yesterday morning, we received a tip from a reader in the San Francisco East Bay area who informed us that a local reporter’s life had been threatened by an activist at the Occupy Oakland demonstration. Our source, who is fearful of reprisal and has requested anonymity, says that KGO-TV’s Amy Hollyfield was accosted by a man who threatened her and used a racial slur: “We shoot white bitches like you around here.”
Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

To be like the Obama administration with the energy loan emails...I thought about scrubbing Marlboro cigarettes out of the article.

Threadkiller

"FLINT, MICHIGAN -- Controversial lawyer Geoffrey N. Fieger is representing a woman who is suing the city over allegations that one of its police inspectors raped her.

A lawsuit filed in federal court last month alleges that Ralph Tedford III, a former inspector with Flint's Citizens Service Bureau, sexually assaulted a woman inside a computer room at one of the city's police mini-stations last year.

Tedford, 41, this week pleaded guilty to criminal charges stemming from the allegations and was ordered to spend 60 days in jail.

Tedford was one of five police officers personally promoted by Flint Mayor Don Williamson when the mayor created the CSB in December 2006."

http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/03/fieger_representing_flint_woma.html?mobRedir=false

Maybe Slow Joe was counting ALL the rapes.

narciso

That was very thoughtful of you, Janet.

Captain Hate

Wasn't Fieger the attorney for Kevorkian?

Dave (in MA)
Hobo candy cigarettes.
I'm surprised that's even allowed anymore. What used to be candy cigarettes are now marked "candy sticks" and the tips aren't even dyed red like they used to be.
Dave (in MA)
2010 FBI: 92; Biden 229
Maybe the FBI stats are compiled using the Whoopi scale, hence the discrepancy. 137 of them were committed by Hollywood celebrities or their friends.
DebinNC

Forbes recent article on America's 10 most dangerous cities said of Flint:

"With 827 violent crimes per 100,000 residents, Flint is an example of an area where a lousy local economy and a high unemployment rate have fueled crime. The Flint area has lost thousands of auto manufacturing jobs, and as with Detroit, there’s been a drop in population. “People don’t have jobs, they don’t have money for food, so they become a lot more desperate, and these trends take a long time to reverse,” says Megan Wolfram, an intelligence analyst at the risk assessment firm iJET."

Sounds like Biden and Obama deserve the blame for more murders and rapes. I wonder if there are actually more police there than the falling population would suggest.

bgates

“I wish they had some notion of what it was like to be on the other side of a gun, or [to have] a 200-pound man standing over you, telling you to submit.”

"And that's why we're telling them they have to do what we say," said the 200-pound Biden, "or deal with the IRS - and those guys have some heavy-duty firepower, I'll tell ya."

narciso

He had to read it backwards, and add an extra digit, to get that result, then again like with the Stimulus funds, Sheriff Joe is on the case, What's that line, that Jim Ryan uses
in all his vignettes

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Dave,
This Flares Into Darkness post links to the old kind of candy cigs too. You can still get them on-line.

peter

Who is that audio soundbite being played on Rush now?

Ignatz

Since cops usually investigate crimes after they happen not prevent them [unless we would like to live in a police state with a cop instead of a chicken in every pot], "correlation is not causation" should be the watchword here. The rising rime rate just might be because of the total social breakdown of Flint and its surrounds. I suspect the rise in rape and murder also coincides with a rise in Islamic residents in the area; is Slow Joe making that accusation as well?
Additionally as was pointed out elsewhere, if rape and crime really are the WH's concern then why does Barry's jobs bill contain $30billion for teachers and a meager $5billion for cops and fire fighters?

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Maybe I'll hand them out this Halloween with a sticker that says...'If your school has funding, thank a smoker.'

DebinNC

Farrakhan ..aka Calypso Louie

Sue

I wish they had some notion of what it was like to be on the other side of a gun

They might have that notion if the 2nd amendment meant anything to these people.

narciso

That auto bailout worked out great, didn't it?

Sue

Calypso Louie

Makes me laugh.

Dennis Miller on Gaddafi: "You know you're a creep when the devil asks you to take a shower before you step into hell."

Porchlight

Janet,

I have a box of Round Up candy cigs floating around somewhere. Super stale, but they taste stale when they're new IIRC.

Sue

If we can see a dead Gaddafi why can't we see a dead Osama?

Warning: Graphic photo

Jim Ryan

Why is Drudge pictorially attributing Gadaffi's killing to Obama ("Got ya")? We didn't have much to do with it, did we?

centralcal

I see sometime this afternoon, Obama will get around to making a comment of Daffy's death. Probably trying to figure out a way to take all the credit for it.

That Miller quote is hysterical, Sue. One thing I am going to miss about the horrid, awful Daffy is his fashion forward outfits. Guess I will have to amuse myself with only MO from here on out.

Pofarmer

So they, "Got Khadafi." I wonder how many agreements we had with him were violated in this deal.

MayBee

JiB- as I understand it, Flint is bull dozing itself. Getting rid of empty decrepit houses that drug dealers and squatters had been hiding in is probably a much more important public safety decision than more cops. The benefit to firefighters is great as well. Getting rid of uninhabited fire traps means fewer fire fighters will be injured saving houses that nobody really lives in.

The city lost 20,000 people in the last decade. That means the number of teachers *should* be down. The number of people employed by the city to provide services *should* be down.

If that means the remaining people are more likely to be criminals, there is a big problem there that Obama's jobs bill won't address.

Danube of Thought

Happy birthday, MayBee dear.

MayBee

Thank you, darling DoT. This will be a good birthday, I think!

Ranger

So, is this what's in store for the OWS movement (from a BBC story on the Greek general strike):

At least 16 other people were hurt in the fighting, as masked youths battled the communist-backed trade unionists near luxury hotels on the square.

Seems the groups fighting all oppose the austerity measures, but they each think its their own bennies that should be protected, and if the others would just give up a little more everything would be fine.

Ranger

Why is Drudge pictorially attributing Gadaffi's killing to Obama ("Got ya")? We didn't have much to do with it, did we?

Posted by: Jim Ryan | October 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM

How he actually got it is not clear. There are reports of a NATO airstrike on a column of pro-Gaddafi vehicles leaving the city around the time Gaddafi was captured/killed. Glad to hear the Brits are now up for bombing retreating enemy convoys, 'cause they wouldn't during the first Gulf War.

Dave (in MA)
If we can see a dead Gaddafi why can't we see a dead Osama?

Warning: Graphic photo

Graphic video, too.

Jim Ryan

Right, now I'm hearing those reports that NATO killed him.

centralcal

This is rather awful as a tv show, but fun in light of today's events. Someone on twitter posted this 1980's sitcom predicting Daffy's death in 2011.

Threadkiller

The Brits were jealous of the "gutsy call" website. Their new site, "edgy call" will feature their heroics.

Danube of Thought

Ranger, as I recall it a number of US pilots got pretty squeamish about slaughtering those retreating Iraqis on the "Highway of Death," and that contributed to Bush 41's calling a halt to the shooting.

Ranger

Via Instapundit, an excellent link:

Ten Things to Keep In Mind for 2012

It pretty much sums up where we are right now.

Neo

HuffPo has a piece up about campaign finance reform.

Frankly, Barack Obama pretty much snuffed the life out of campaign finance reform in 2008 by breaking on his promise to take FEC match funding (and the caps that go with it).

Some how, they managed to miss that.

Jim Ryan

Tea Party here is camping out Friday night in a park two blocks from Occupy Charlottesville encampment (which has literally ones of residents.) This is in response to a city councilor who made a crack about the local Tea Party leader - that unlike OWS, the Tea Party would never camp out, it being hard "to imagine Carol Thorpe camping out." You see, Carol Thorpe is very obese and can't be expected to camp out. Ha ha. Liberal city councilor insults constituent for her weight. Her response: camp out! She's turned it into a fund drive to help out the victims of the earthquake (who have many millions of dollars in damage to houses and schools.)

If you want to donate money to help the victims of the central Virginia earthquake, the local Tea Party will take your donations Friday night. Stream WCHV which will have our local conservative loudmouth radio guy Joe Thomas pulling an all-nighter for the fund drive live at the tea party camp. He'll tell you how to donate.

jwest

Deb,

Don’t put much faith in the FBI violent crime statistics; they are flawed from the outset.

Back in ’93 I funded a study conducted by a local college on the UCR (Uniform Crime Reporting) system. This was prior to having data online, so individual state UCR compilations needed to be ordered and then the data was inputted into an archaic spreadsheet.

Of the states that we were able to gather the data on, it became apparent that there were wide disparities in violent crime figures between different statistical metropolitan areas (SMAs), but non-violent crime tracked pretty much the same when calculating for crimes per 100,000 residents. When we delved a bit deeper into the numbers, we found that although it was supposed to be a Unified Crime Report, different states reported crimes differently.

Violent crime is composed of murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault (AA). As an example of what the numbers would look like, a SMA might have 20 murders, 100 rapes, 200 robberies and 6500 aggravated assaults. The total violent crime statistic is the sum of these numbers, so you can see that what drives the total by far are the AAs. When looking over a number of years, the rates per 100,000 of murder, rape and robbery are fairly even over all SMAs. But when you refer to the FBI’s consolidated UCR, you find aggravated assaults vary wildly from some states to others.

The reason for the variation is the way crime is reported to the FBI. In Michigan, if someone beats his wife over the head with a baseball bat for not having dinner ready on time, it is recorded as an aggravated assault. In Connecticut, it is accounted for as “Family Violence” and not recorded in their data report to the FBI. Naturally, domestic violence constitutes the vast majority of aggravated assaults, so not including this number makes it appear that Connecticut is far safer than Michigan.

Also, there are other differences in how crimes are recorded. In Michigan, when one prisoner sticks a fork in another prisoner’s eye, it is duly recorded as an AA. In most other states, prison violence isn’t included in their numbers. Of course, not mixing prison violence in with violence committed on the general public is the way to go, but it defeats the purpose of what a Unified Crime Report is suppose to do.

All of what we discovered wrong with the system was communicated to the Deputy Director of the FBI and the Chairman of the National Association of Police Chiefs, who had responsibility for compliance at that time, but the reaction was the same. They both wanted to know why I was messing with this and why I cared. Nothing has changed since then.

Ranger

Well, some of the US pilots may have felt squeamish, but it was the Brits who out right refused to fly missions assigned by the JTO against the convoys.

My understanding was that the end of hostilities had much more to do with the fact that we were going to have to pause offensive operations for about 72 hours to refule and rearm the forces on the western end of the line (the deep left hook). The thinking was that once the advnace was halted it would be hard to find the political will within the coalition to start it up again. Therefore, we made a virtue out of nescesity, and declared the war over.

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Super stale, but they taste stale when they're new IIRC.

You remember correctly, Porch! Hah!

Danube of Thought

Another speech: Your president will be speaking about Libya from the Rose Garden at 2:00 p.m. I shan't be watching.

DebinNC

Interesting, jwest. I think Forbes made Memphis #2 in its 10 most dangerous cities list, but noted that its high ranking was mainly because Memphis is more honest (my word) in reporting crimes don't other cities don't.

bgates

Your president will be speaking about Libya from the Rose Garden at 2:00 p.m.

Your president is scheduled to speak at 2. The 2pm SportsCenter recap of Game 1 should last until about 2:13; allowing a few minutes for a midafternoon smoke, your President should be speaking about Libya from the Rose Garden right about 2:20.

DebinNC

Marco Rubio this morning: "Rubio today said, " Let's give credit where credit is due. It was the French and the British who led on this fight and probably even led on the strike that led to Gaddafi's capture or to his death."

Local news just now: French defense chief says it was a French plane/s which fired on Gaddafi's convoy.

Danube of Thought

Wikipedia:

"During the United Nations coalition offensive in the Gulf War, retreating Iraqi military personnel were attacked on Highway 80 by American aircraft and ground forces on the night of February 26–27, 1991, resulting in the destruction of hundreds of vehicles and the deaths of many of their occupants. The scenes of devastation on the road are some of the most recognizable images of the war, and were publicly cited as a factor in President George H. W. Bush's decision to declare a cessation of hostilities on the next day."

Threadkiller

Is there a French word for "gutsy"?

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Have no fear. ElJefe and his minions have been spinning this all morning to take sole credit for another gutsy move.

Ranger

DoT, I know what the public reasons were for calling the halt. But public reasons and actual reasons are not always the same.

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

Ya figure the State Dept. is gonna get the money back from Gsdhafi's kids? It wasn't THAT long ago that we game them money for their charitable work...2009.
What a world....

DebinNC

Reuters: "U.S. President Barack Obama will say publicly on Thursday that he believes deposed Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi is likely dead, an administration official said.
"In his remarks, the president will cite the fact that Libyan officials have announced Gaddafi's death. We have also received similar reports through diplomatic channels and have confidence in this reporting," a White House official said."
............................................
The U.S. was so uninvolved in Daffy's death that Obama will have to depend on secondhand sources to even announce he's "likely dead".

Janet--not too bad for a cro-magnon

*Gadhafi's* & *gave*

Captain Hate

Tammy Bruce is crushing McCain's reaction to Libya. And offering more grooming tips to Muffer.

Jane

I will not be blogging said speech from your president.

centralcal

Over at NRO, Jack Davis writes:

Third, the defeat and death of Qaddafi cannot be viewed as a triumph of Western policy in general and U.S. policy in particular. President Obama called for

Qaddafi’s ouster early in the conflict and then did nothing about it, never asking Congress for authority to use force, refusing to target Qaddafi himself, and then refusing to acknowledge that he was being targeted when NATO clearly was doing so — even insisting that the U.S. was not engaged in “hostilities” in Libya. The dallying and confusion of the Western response will be remembered just as much as the fact of Qaddafi’s demise.

It will be interesting to see how Obama spins his role in Daffy's death.

centralcal

sorry for the badly formatted blockquote!

Jane

Days not weeks...

Gmax

Stock market gives collective yawn to the loss of Daffy one. Mixed market with everything tightly clustered around no change +/- a small amount.

Gmax

Just had a broker show me a pool of loans for purchase with these highly prized spiff for the high bid:

Winning bidder gets a weekend for two in the beautiful Zucotti Park…

Shmoe Smiden

If we had a police state there would be fewer rapes. But Republicans oppose a police state. Call the GOP and ask them why they are in favor of rape.

glasater

Awhile back I read an article about Libya's fresh water project. So learning of Qaddafi's death today I was trying to track down something positive about the guy to reflect upon.
The article at the link is pretty interesting.

Clarice

From this video it appears he was assassinated after he was wounded and captured.


http://www.businessinsider.com/qaddafi-still-alive-footage-2011-10

Hmm, let's here it from the geneva Convention savants.

MayBee

I think DoT might have had it about right regarding Milan and the lamppost.

glasater

I cannot find Neo's article about campaign finance reform at Huffpo.

Clarice

Reuters:At the time of capture, Gaddafi was already wounded with gunshots to his leg and to his back, Bakeer said.
Other government fighters who said they took part in Gaddafi's capture, separately confirmed Bakeer's version of events, though one said the man who ruled Libya for 42 years was shot and wounded at the last minute by one of his own men.
"One of Muammar Gaddafi's guards shot him in the chest," said Omran Jouma Shawan.
Army chief Jabr was also captured alive, Bakeer said. NTC officials later announced he was dead.
Fallen electricity cables partially covered the entrance to the pipes and the bodies of three men, apparently Gaddafi bodyguards lay at the entrance to one end, one in shorts probably due to a bandaged wound on his leg.
Four more bodies lay at the other end of the pipes. All black men, one had his brains blown out, another man had been decapitated, his dreadlocked head lying beside his torso.
Joyous government fighters fired their weapons in the air, shouted "Allahu Akbar" and posed for pictures. Others wrote graffiti on the concrete parapets of the highway.
"Gaddafi was captured here," said one simply.
From there Gaddafi was taken to the nearby city of Sirte where he and his dwindling band of die-hard supporters had made a last stand under a rain of missile and artillery fire in a desperate two-month siege.
Video footage showed Gaddafi, dazed and wounded, but still clearly alive and gesturing with his hands as he was dragged from a pick-up truck by a crowd of angry jostling group of government soldiers who hit him and pulled his hair.
He then appeared to fall to the ground and was enveloped by the crowd. NTC officials later announced Gaddafi had died of his wounds after capture.

centralcal

Allahpundit just posted at Hot Air that a photo shows a bullet hole in Daffy's left temple.

Porchlight

They popped him.

At least Mussolini was executed in a declared, real live, genuine, Congress-authorized war.

Clarice

Well, it avoids all that Gitmo, civilian trial, military tribunal carp, doesn't it?

Porchlight

Yes, and also as MayBee pointed out, all that nasty "mob justice" that surrounded the trial and execution of Saddam during the GWB administration. We can't have mob justice, except when Democrats are President, in which case it's all good.

MayBee

From Allah's link to the Telegraph:

I wonder whether the greatest impact of this death could be psychological, and personal. The hard fact is that Col Gaddafi would still be alive today if Mr Cameron, alongside Nicolas Sarkozy, had not acted as they did. Political power offers many unique experiences, but few are as stark as the feeling that you have helped bring about the death of another leader.

Hmmm. Someone isn't getting credit here.

Clarice

well, as Rush points out today in the US the media folks like Andrea "I must have been drunk" Mitchell are acting as if Obama pulled he trigger himself.

Sue

Someone at Hot Air says, about the new regime in Libya, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

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