Crowd Power

Dana Loesch of Big Journalism tells us about this searchable database of Occupy Wall Street emails.  Apparently Dylan Ratigan of MSNBC is working with the OWS people he covers to develop their message.  I can't find Krugman in the database, but the American Autumn is young.

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[Captain Hate]

Did anybody believe the journolist dimwits would stop doing what they were after they were exposed? They have no shame and believe that what they were doing was commendable in its sneakiness and underhanded nature.

[LibertyAtStake]

Can't wait for Dylan Ratigan's interview with Edward T. Hall III. It's a natural.

d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

[MarkO]

Keep up the exposure. Fight back, hard. Everywhere. Otherwise, we lose. And how we lose if Obama stays in power.

[Appalled]

Lest we generate too much outrage, let us look at Mr. Ratigan's self-description at his website:

Dylan Ratigan is the host of MSNBC’s The Dylan Ratigan Show, a make-versus-take, analysis driven daily broadcast program that fearlessly takes on the world of politics, money, and the unholy alliance between big business and government.

(resume with Bllomberg deleted...)

Ratigan left as host of CNBC’s Fast Money in 2009, provoked by outrage over the governments handling of the 2008 financial crisis. Since then, he has dedicated his work to launching media properties that will engage and debate the U.S. government on policy, while opening the door for millions to learn more about money’s often poisonous role in our democracy.

Seems like somehing like OWS would be up his alley, provided they focused on Wall Street, and not take the kitchen sink approach to radical reform that is the hallmark of certain leftist movements.

[Danube of Thought]

"Fearlessly." I love it. Like there's something an ordinary fellow would be afraid of?

[BB Key]

Crowd Power ? There were more people at the Michigan vs. Michigan State game than all the OWS rallies combined....

[glasater]

If one were to look up the definition of incoherence there would be a photo of Ratigan.

[Ignatz]

--Lest we generate too much outrage, let us look at Mr. Ratigan's self-description at his website:--

Would you be as sanguine if a Fox news anchor was found to have been helping the Tea Party develop its message and then interviewing them?
My imaginary case and Ratigan's real one used to be considered ethically beneath contempt and a firing offense, back when journalism was actually a somewhat useful profession rather than a branch of the oldest one.

[Danube of Thought]

Next event, per the NY Daily News:

Next up for protesters: Occupy the Courts. Lawyers representing about 800 Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested in the past month demand that prosecutors drop the charges. If not, they say they won't deal and will insist on going to trial - putting pressure on the already overloaded Manhattan criminal courts. "I'd like to suggest to the DA's office the appropriate way to deal with these cases is outright dismissal," said defense lawyer Martin Stolar.

[Janet]

Look at these OWS pictures from Denver. Who would join this group?

[macphisto]

next up: Occupying Jail Cells!

[Appalled]

Nah next up is:

"Occupy Iran"

That's one the Tea Partiers could get behind, right?

[Captain Hate]

Ask Neda how well Occupy Tehran went. And how much sympathy El JEFe felt to her plight.

[narciso]

I'm sure these folks are fans of OWS, too:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4135644,00.html

[jean]

At NRO corner they have an old video of Herman Cain singing "Imagine there is no pizza".It is great fun

[Danube of Thought]

I know in L.A if a large group of defendants announced such a strategy, the first few who went to trial and got convicted would get maxed--it's called "paying the rent." After that they'll be lining up to cut deals.

[Jane]

not, they say they won't deal and will insist on going to trial

I would make it clear that anyone tried and convicted would be assessed costs of all the overtime accrued by the police officers in the area of where they protested.

$2 million here, $2million there, pretty soon it will make a dent in the deficit.

[Jane]

Oops, Dot, I should have kept reading.

[matt]

There's a photo of Lady Gaga meeting Chelsea Clinton on the interwebs. Man someone hit those two with the ugly stick.

They sort of sum up modern culture and society. Now all you have to do is be derivative. Gaga in her music, Chelsea as the daughter of someone famous.

[matt]

an AP story says hundreds of thousands protested. I know they got a few thousand in the City. LA had a couple few thousand. The Italian anarchisti all turned out, but then half the country is commie anyway and they love that shit.

Otherwise, it seems to have been pretty much a washout. But the media are behind this one 1000%.

Off to give a technical paper at a conference.

[Appalled]

LUN, you will find Jennifer Rubin's qualms about Cain. They are actually similar in tenor to her problems with Sarah Palin, so you can't say she isn't consistent.

(Funny -- I like Cain's approach on gay marriage, though I take her point that Supreme Courts in several of ther states, rather than voters, have been the ones driving this)

Find it interesting Cain was OK with TARP. The one place where he differs from the expected Tea Party position, he is right to do so.

[Ignatz]

He's right on gay marriage.
He's wrong on TARP.
Her criticism of his foreign policy seems to amount to 'he said he likes some guys who sometimes disagree'. Ouch.
I'm finding the criticisms of Cain mostly kind of lame and make me like him more rather than less once I look at them.

[Ranger]

I'm finding the criticisms of Cain mostly kind of lame and make me like him more rather than less once I look at them.

Posted by: Ignatz | October 17, 2011 at 01:50 PM

I'm thinking Rick may be correct in his suggestion yesterday that the MSM pushed Cain forward hoping to derail Perry. The problem for the MSM is I don't think they appriicated how effective he could be as a candidate, and it has the running scared now.

I have a very strong feeling that Cain is Team Barry's worst nightmare. The only arguments they can bring to bear on him sound like the charges laid against Obama in 2008 that they worked so hard to dismiss (he has no experience, his plans are unrealistic), and are much less true of Cain.

[Sue]

I'm finding the criticisms of Cain mostly kind of lame and make me like him more rather than less once I look at them.

Not me, Iggy. I'm liking him less and less.

[Boatbuilder]

It seems like a lot of the OWS protesters are really upset that that paid an large amount of money for (or at least ran up a significant debt for) their college and post-grad degrees, and now they can't find a job.

Why aren't they protesting the lousy colleges who bilked them?

[Captain Hate]

I've been wondering the same thing, BB.

[Jack is Back!]

I am going to post this detailed essay on Romney as a RINO and not a conservative then I am going to go and post the vid of Charles Payne with Geraldo at OWS in the LUN.

This pretty much sums it up at OWS. Note the "Democratic Strategist" gal Hohn and her take at the end. This OWS is a pre-emptive political rally for Obama and I hope he fully embraces it and drives that big black bus right up to Zuccotti Park and speaks to the crowd.

[Ranger]

Why aren't they protesting the lousy colleges who bilked them?

To them, Higher Education is their church, the revealer of truth. To protest it would be unthinkable. But Big Ed has become a corrupt place. The modern day bishops and cardinals of the left (the tenured faculty, administrators, and chancelors and presidents) live very well, at the population's exspence, and then pass judgement on the "corrupt society" around them.

[Jane]

Why aren't they protesting the lousy colleges who bilked them?

Because it was those lovely college professors who gave them their marching orders. If wall street had done what academia wanted each college kid would graduate with a trust fund, that they would donate back in part to the college.

[Boatbuilder]

My question was rhetorical, but somebody might ask them.
Somebody might also ask them whether it ever occured to them that the massively government-subsidized and-supported college professors who taught them about the great corporate conspiracy might not be part of a conspiracy themselves, since their prices seem to be increasing a whole lot faster than those in any other sector of the economy.

[Boatbuilder]

While producing an increasingly inferior product, I might add...

[Ranger]

Well, this is interesting. Rush mentioned it today, but here is a detailed explanation of the latest exposure of scientific fraud:

“Sybil Exposed”: Memory, lies and therapy

And at Salon no less.

The mind boggles at how much damage can be done by those who seem to do well for themselves by "doing good."

[jimmyk]

Why aren't they protesting the lousy colleges who bilked them?

That would be great, since it might send the message to universities that offering all these gender and ethnic studies majors does not do their customers a lot of good.

[Neo]

Imagine a bunch of Lyndon LaRouche folks, Hare Krishnas, Communists, or radical Muslims setting up in front of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Pentagon, the Russell, Senate/House Office Buildings, the SCOTUS, the Holocaust museum, the Naval Observatory, the DNC, the White House, or Obama campaign headquarters with “Occupy” banners.

Wonder how Obama would like to be associated with that ?

[Clarice]

I expect the foolish majors will disappear in a matter of years because despite the occupying it is occurring to all but the dimmest bulbs that there are no job opportunities for certain majors any longer, and with money tight students can no longer treat their college years as simply an exercise in lazy self acutalization.

[Clarice]

**acTUalization **

[Rick Ballard]

"While producing an increasingly inferior product, I might add... "

BB,

I'd say that many Pitzer College grads are precisely the product which their professors desired to turn out. They are incapable of discerning how badly they were screwed due to the efficacy of the propaganda they were fed. Time will educate them and the payments on their serf's collars should be enough to spark a hatred for the scum professors that will long endure.

[Jack is Back!]

Clarice,

I have mentioned this in passing and as a snark but Ric Scott in Florida has already got the program rolling - he has publicly stated without his tongue in his cheek - forget about anthropology, we have enough of those. Let's emphasize STEM education, Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. LUN

[LibertyAtStake]

@Danube of Thought: I'm thinking Gitmo here. Whaddyathink?

d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
"Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive"

[Tully]

It seems like a lot of the OWS protesters are really upset that that paid an large amount of money for (or at least ran up a significant debt for) their college and post-grad degrees, and now they can't find a job....

...with their master's in art history or gender studies. As I tell my kids, it's great to pursue your passions, but get your other life priorities in order FIRST. Like how you're going to eat and pay the bills for the next few decacdes.

'Cause no one (besides other art history majors who can't get jobs not involving minimum wage starting positions) is going to have much sympathy for your whining when you bitch about being $60K or more in student loan debt and not being able to find that $100k/yr job in art history.

I've mingled with the local OCCUPY protesters and have yet to find one with a vocational degree, like accounting or engineering or nursing. The closest I've come is a few teachers, who only show up on the weekends and complain they can't get paid time off to protest during the week.

[Clarice]

Of course this is inevitable==
From the NY Post:

t’s a den of thieves! Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food. “Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale. “I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen,

[narciso]

That showed the same wisdom, as having Hell's Angels guarding the Stones at Altamont, honestly, nothing could go wrong here.

[Janet]

Wow Clarice...the left doesn't like their own ideas when the ideas are applied to themselves. But lawlessness, no private property, & redistribution of wealth will all be great when the government does it???

[Janet]

here is a comment at Clarice's NY Post article...
People wanting redistribution of wealth complaining when their items are redistributed... Interesting.

[Janet]

Reminds me of the hypocrisy of Israel bashing reporters always making it back to the safety of Israel after being held captive by Islamic terrorists.
...or embracing our military when they come to save them.
"While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind."
Kipling

[narciso]

Or this example, where the Times burned the same private intelligence network, that helped
free their reporter, he notes it in his memoir, with no sense of irony:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7907432&page=1