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Jack is Back!

Love the headline at Gateway Pundit based on the latest at the OWS website: "Stop posting demands, its making us look like imbiciles":)

Jim Ryan

OWT PROTESTER: President Obama! Dude! We love you! Thanks for socially just health care! Do you support our protest?

OBAMA:

REPORTER: Mr. President? Did you hear the question?

OBAMA: Yes I did. I, uh...you know...um...

REPORTER: Well, while the president is formulating a response, let me ask you this, sir. [TO OWT PROTESTER] What do you think about President Obama's ties to Wall Street and the mortgage industry? You know that Goldman Sachs and Fannie Mae were big donors of his, right?

OWT PROTESTER:

REPORTER: [TO TECHIE] Is he getting the sound, Gerry?

OWT PROTESTER: Yeah, I heard the question...It's just...I, uh...you know...this is not about...uh...

OBAMA: Uh...

OWT PROTESTER: Duh...

Janet

Our hit and run is at the tippy top at Instapundit now re President Goldman Sachs.

I love how VIMH uses "we". LOL!

Janet

Here is a catchy music video - Islam's Not For Me

narciso

Steyn has been on this track, for a while, and frankly i can't blame him, I think the
scene of the apes, beating the bones against
the monolith, comes to mind, in 2001, except
in reverse.

Greta Garbo

Yeah, watching movies in reverse can be very funny!

centralcal

Good morning.

Just saw this come across Twitter, but I haven't found an actual article at the Examiner yet:

ByronYork Byron York
Romney announces foreign policy government-in-waiting: Black, Chertoff, Cohen, Coleman, Hayden, Kagan, Lehman, Phares, Senor, Talent, more.

Greta Garbo

I was rewinding Fonteyn and Nureyev's Romeo and Juliet on slow rewind the other night and was amazed at all the new ballet steps!

Old Lurker

We can only benefit by more people knowing what the agenda is for these clowns. Having Obama and the unions attached is all good.

I gather there is no "official demand" but these are the ones I have seen most often:

<<

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.>>>

Janet

This is funny too -
Emergency procedure.

BR

What I can't figure out, Narciso, is: is the monolith beating the apes or what did you have in mind?

BR

Demand Seven: That's easy, and at no cost: film the river in question and watch it in rewind. Can also be applied to footage of illegals crossing the border, see them walking back to Mexico backwards.

Appalled

Given the corporatism that seems a part of the Obama/Dem model, the eruption of populist outrage on the left is probably a good thing. I do wonder where this lot was when Congress was passing Dodd-Frank (a bill whose named sponsors says it all).

Too bad that the leaders appear to be utter idiots. I think our Ben Franklin could have written a better manifesto (as long as he does not compile it from cut/pastes from Iranian websites).

narciso

Well the Monolith, was the one that impart sentience to the Apes, Clarke was probably
an agnostic, but he became virulently an ti-religious in the last part of his life,

BR

Ah, I was just thinking about Arthur C. Clarke last night. Narciso, have you read all of his? For the longest time I've been trying to find one of his short stories that I read in about 1970. It was about telepaths, intel and a love story.

Rob Crawford

All debt must be stricken from the "Books."

Think about what this means -- your savings account, gone. Your investments, gone. No chance to ever buy anything on credit, no way to save anything except by stuffing the cash under the mattress, no option but to carry around wads of bills.

Rob Crawford

Insty requotes:

“The modern anarchists are just the far-left’s muscle. Look at when and where they show up, who they march with and for, and how carefully the press ignores them and their acts.”

Heh.

rse

Janet-

I knew you had posted that even before I saw your name. Off to Benning.

Kim-is Bioneers on your radar? You really need to be at that annual conference next week in san rafael. Notice founders connections to media and movies. Explains a lot.

On the species aspect-because that's all we would be if the planners had their way.

Ranger

More Fast and Furious news... we have reached the persecution of the innocent phase:

ATF officials reassigned in latest Fast and Furious fallout

This part is what I find interesting:

William J. Hoover, the No. 2 man at ATF, will become special agent-in-charge of the agency's Washington field office...

Hoover had broad supervision over Fast and Furious, was given routine updates on the "gun walking" operation, and grew concerned over the number of firearms getting into Mexico without any U.S. indictments on this side of the border.

He tried to get it shut down six months after it began in the fall of 2009. But he failed, and the program continued until January of this year. During that time, a U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed in Arizona and two Fast and Furious weapons were recovered at the scene.

So, they are demoting the one guy in the ATF leadership who seemed to quickly understand that this was bad idea and tried to shut it down.

Sounds more like the ATF is desperately trying to plug leaks, rather than "remake itself."

Army of Davids

Ah....

the smell of Communism in the morning.


Army of Davids

Greedy corporations should not be allowed to make a profit.

Now, where's my iphone?

narciso

I was surmising, that all the personal attacks, upon her person, typified by the McGuinness book, and her family were a factor, and if that's seems correct, in part
if this LUN is right.

DebinNC

Michelle Malkins on the "Kamp Alinsky Kids" call for "caring" over corporations:
...........................................
"I am blogging on an iMac. When I travel, I use my MacBook Pro. I Tweet news links from my iPhone. My kids are learning Photoshop and GarageBand on our Macs. I use metronome, dictation, video, and camera apps. I use Apple products for business, pleasure, social networking, raising awareness of the missing, finding recipes, and even tuning a ukulele......None of the people involved in conceiving these products and bringing them to market “care” about me. They pursued their own self-interests. Through the spontaneous order of capitalism, they enriched themselves — and the world."

Ranger

Instapundit linked to this bit last night:

Occupation: From Wall Street to the university

DAN PRIMACK: They Should Be Marching On Universities, Not Wall Street:“Take a look at We Are the 99 Percent – a website on which protest sympathizers share their tales of economic hardship. Very few of them mention banks, or even bank bailouts. The vast majority of them, however, do mention college debt.” Universities are major Democratic constituencies, and as such unlikely to be targeted.

Posted at 11:33 pm by Glenn Reynolds

Danube of Thought

Minus 24 at Raz today.

fdcol63

Just a guess here, but most of the OWS kooks were probably radicalized at American universities.

Melinda Romanoff

Apple's first print was down $4.92, low print was down 5.67, now down 1.01. I think some took it as a buying opportunity.

BR

H2O (Holder, Hillary and Obama) plus another H (complicit and will turn like Dean) - when I wrote that I didn't mean Hoover, but a 4th H is great. Ha!

Jack is Back!

Mel,

Talking to my Apple users group, we are amazed that they would go and make a big show of a non-event (iPhone 4GS v. iPhone 5) knowing Jobs was on his deathbed. The optics must be terrible for investors (of which we all are). Still can't understand it - the big tease and show for an upgrade??

hit and run

Rob:
Think about what this means -- your savings account, gone. Your investments, gone. No chance to ever buy anything on credit, no way to save anything except by stuffing the cash under the mattress, no option but to carry around wads of bills.

At jammiewearingfool yesterday there was a pic of one woman occupier yesterday holding a sign that said: "Without money we'd all be rich!"

I think at this point the Koch brothers should start funneling money to these fine folks.

Threadkiller

Now they can name the iPhone 5 after Jobs.

Melinda Romanoff

JiB-

I think the vigil is what derailed the iPhone5 and it devolved into 4S, because another delay would made the 5 even more vilified.

narciso

So, is Hoover is the counterpart to Felt, having a similar rank in their respective agencies.

Rob Crawford

At jammiewearingfool yesterday there was a pic of one woman occupier yesterday holding a sign that said: "Without money we'd all be rich!"

*snort*

Yeah, those IDIOTS who invented money!

Jack is Back!

Mel,

The real reason for delaying the 5 model is LTE 4G is not deployable yet. At least that is what I am being told. Should be by spring of 12.

fdcol63

Do OWS protesters wipe their bums with TP produced by evil corporations? LOL

Melinda Romanoff

Not on AT&T it won't be. It'll be lucky to be a year from now, if that's the case. I thought the chatter was it would cover CDMA and 4G LTE.

BR

As You Like It, Narcisco :) Nice.

BR

As You Like It, Narciso :) Nice.

DebinNC

The unreported story of OWS...the effect on local workers whose places of employment have been shut down. Vietnamese immigrant asks, "What they want? What they asking?"

Ranger

Do OWS protesters wipe their bums with TP produced by evil corporations? LOL

Posted by: fdcol63 | October 06, 2011 at 09:56 AM

Rush was having a lot of fun yesterday talking about the angst the OWS people were having about the possibility have having to actualy buy sleeping bags... That was very distressing for some of them, because actually purchasing goods would be, you know, supporting "capitolism", and they are just not down for that. To avoid this, they are apperently now begging for donations of tents and sleeping bags, since that is so much more morally acceptable than buying something they need.

Janet

Great link, Deb.

pagar

". It must be horrible at C4P; I can't bear to look."

IMO, it is horrible for the US. I don't see anyone else with her talent for knowing what needs to be done to protect this nation
and than doing it.

Cain has part of it but I don't think he understand how big a threat the MB is for this nation.

Ohio prison leaders just outlawed pork apparently because a Muslim prisoner complained about something else. How long before pork is outlawed in the US?

narciso

There were some that took it poorly, pagar,
and then there were the nazguls, who swept in
triumph,

Charlie (Colorado)

Why not cover my church's youth group where hundreds of kids come every week?

They don't have a big-money PR firm.

Rob Crawford

How long before pork is outlawed in the US?

They'll have to pry it out of my cold, greasy fingers.

(Ribs in one hand, pistol in the other...)

DebinNC

Tents and sleeping bags? I hope homeless advocates make sure their "clients" are treated as well as the newcomers. Can't roust one and tell them to "move along" and lay out the welcome mat for the OWS bunch.

Melinda Romanoff

pagar-

I have a country ham in my future, this weekend.

Appalled

fdcol63:

Do OWS protesters wipe their bums with TP produced by evil corporations? LOL

The Koch Bros own Georgia Pacific, which is a leading producer of TP. So the answer to the question is, I sure hope so.

Jack is Back!

Ranger,

Rush was reading from the minutes of the General Assembly or something like that, right? It was bonkers, what these eegits were talking about and trying to find a way to do something that wasn't seen as being 1) a consumer, 2) a buyer or 3) using money at all. Then someone suggested they take the money or as they called it "donations" and buy the material and let the group make their own damn sleeping bags. But then they would be violating number 2 above. A real circle jerk of the gargantuan proportions that only brainwashed academic acolytes could provide.

I just hope Breitbart or someone gets a full transcript of those minutes and publishes them each day. Its like going to a blog post and finding that the comments are richer than the post itself.

Charlie (Colorado)

It's a profoundly anti-Kurzweilian article.

It's also profoundly dumb. After all, where would cars be without the wheel, which was invented God knows when, or the hub-and-axle, from about 8000 years BCE. For that matter, cars are recognizably descended from horse-drawn buggies.

I just know Jane is going to have at me over this, but my admiration of Steyn has been dropping like Obama's popularity for quite a while.

Tom Maguire
I am very concerned that the tea party is going to get lumped in with OWS. And I'm not sure how to fight that.

I am not sure I see it - the MSM theme has been 'finally, a Tea Party with brains (and heart)', but the MSM will have a hard time putting out the story that protest is good if is in support of the left and bad otherwise. And they aren't going to say, well, here are more lunatic protestors, because they all want to be these guys.

Meanwhile, once people look at the Tea Party and these clown shows side by side, the Tea Party wins.

Its all good. I hope.

BR

Another aspect of Fast and Furious is that La Raza and all Dem-loving Latinos should take note of how little Obama, Holder and Hillary care for the lives of Mexicans.

Jim Ryan

As Cain's sec energy Palin will have the president's ear.

bgates

How long before pork is outlawed in the US?

Never happen.

Bacon, ham, mortadella, prosciutto, sure; but Congress would sooner lower taxes, enforce border security, and respect the Constitution than outlaw pork.

bgates

supporting "capitolism"

They're rejecting capitalism - the idea that society's economic resources should be directed by those who acquire capital - in favor of capitolism - the idea that society's economic resources should be directed by those who acquire the capitol.

Charlie (Colorado)

BR, I don't remember the story offhand but all Clarke's short stories are collected here.

JB

"It's also profoundly dumb. After all, where would cars be without the wheel, which was invented God knows when, or the hub-and-axle, from about 8000 years BCE. For that matter, cars are recognizably descended from horse-drawn buggies."

Steyn is wrong. Look at this chart, since the dawn of time.

http://www.singularity.com/charts/page17.html

DebinNC

"We try to balance our principles with our need without making it too difficult. I've been visiting Salvation Army stores and buying as many sleeping bags as I can so I believe it's possible for us to get our supplies from charity stores and the like."

Attention homeless advocates, the OWS mobs, who can well afford to buy sleeping bags and winter coats, are stripping Goodwill and Salvation Army stores of the only warmth street people can afford.

Ranger

And once again, George Will says what needs to be said:

Elizabeth Warren and liberalism, twisting the ‘social contract’

A taste:

Warren is (as William F. Buckley described Harvard economist John Kenneth Galbraith) a pyromaniac in a field of straw men: She refutes propositions no one asserts. Everyone knows that all striving occurs in a social context, so all attainments are conditioned by their context. This does not, however, entail a collectivist political agenda.

Good stuff...

Yes JiB, it was directly from their own website... I thought as he was reading it... You can't make this stuff up. If you did it as a parady, no one would believe that people with degrees from good schools could be so stupid.

Charlie (Colorado)

Steyn is wrong. Look at this chart, since the dawn of time.

I'm not a Singularitarian but it's a fair point. Other interesting things to plot would be life expectancy. I know I've ranted here before that "poor" in the US now is wildly different from "poor" when I was 5, or 25.

Charlie (Colorado)

Could someone throw in a couple more entries for the "other interesting things" list? I got distracted.

Jack is Back!

From DebinNC's link to Rush comes the money quote at the very end:

" This bunch! You know, I wouldn't doubt if we're not careful the next president of this country is gonna come out of this group. "

I think he mean't the current one.

DebinNC

Rush reading the OWS minutes re needing donations of clothes/blankets:
"It isn't gonna be long, folks, before we are going to hear that the Republicans gave the protestors blankets that were infected with smallpox. You wait. Some of these people are gonna get sick, gonna blame it on Republican donations to try to thin the herd."

Hilarious, but true.

Melinda Romanoff

Chaco-

When I'm bored, I turn to Drew Curtis' Fark.

Always enlightening, when it comes to the human condition.

Ranger

Hmmm... The R's in the Senate must have really got under Barry's skin (or the market going back up this morning is bugging him). He is going to do a press conference in about 10 minutes. Say, you don't think he is going to try and cash in on Job's death for poliltical gain, do you?

Rob Crawford

Say, you don't think he is going to try and cash in on Job's death for poliltical gain, do you?

He's going to announce that the estate tax collection that results will be used to fund "job programs" at the SEIU.

The Old Man and the Sea does Dallas.

When the enemy is destroying itself, let them take Vienna.
======================

Horns on the Beast, eh?

Childhood's End.
=========

narciso

Rush, as usual was on point, this is the milieu that Obama sprang from, we know from
his piece in the SunDial, from the notions,
imbedded in his thesis, that the nuclear freeze, wasn't enough of a step forward toward
'peace and justice'

Danube of Thought

I understand the next gathering of these Adullamites* is to be in Austin, TX today. Sure hope they publish some demands.
__________
*1 Samuel 22: 1-2

Janet

Stephanopoulos just said the Republicans are blocking Obama's jobs bill.
Starting off with bulls*#t.

DebinNC

Obama didn't have any public appearances scheduled today except a measley 15 min. Rose Garden photo-op with the winning Texas A&M women's bb team.

Janet

This is just another speech. blah, blah, blah...
victim story, blah, blah, blah....

Janet

Okay...still no press questions...more speech. Blah, blah, blah...
finally a press question! It's a miracle!

Janet

Europe, Arab spring, & Japan's weather are to blame for our weak economy.

Humans gotta poke in da pot.

Very clear, Jim, until stirred.
===========

Thomas Collins

Obama speaking on the economy's stalling on his watch reminds me of Red Flops fans who blamed injuries for the team's September collapse.

Janet

Obama has gone out of his way to help us. Constantly tried to help.
If it wasn't for sorry-ass Congress we would be saved!

Rob Crawford

Stephanopoulos just said the Republicans are blocking Obama's jobs bill.

No Republican should ever consent to an interview with that shill ever again.

Danube of Thought

Let's see how Scott Brown does without the help of the people who put him where he is:

"In 2010, he was the tea party poster boy. In 2012, Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown may not get so much as a nod of acknowledgement from tea party groups.

"Brown shocked the country back in 2010 when he beat his Democratic opponent, Martha Coakley, and was elected to the state’s Senate seat vacated by the late Teddy Kennedy. The Tea Party Express paid to run pro-Brown ads. FreedomWorks activists campaigned for him.

"In short, Scott Brown was the tea party movement’s first electoral victory. But now that he’s up for re-election for a full six-year term in 2012, tea party activists tell The Daily Caller they’re not going to bother putting together the same operation that swept him into office the first time."

The herd's been warned off the cliff.

It's a foul wind that blows no one fair.
================

DebinNC

O's just filibustering. Only Jane could make this interesting.

Janet

Republicans need to explain themselves to Obama & the American people.
Republicans have no ideas...only Obama has ideas...him & some unnamed economists.

Thomas Collins

We all have them in our work life and our family (preferably a relative we rarely see). Some folks have a sublime ability to blame a variety of factors for their own failures. It's never their failings. It's always someone else or some outside force. Pathetic excuses are the norm of such folks. Obama is at the top of the excuse making crowd.

Benjamin Franklin

http://occupyaustin.org/

Holy Moly. Now it's Texas? I question teh timing.

Janet

We're still on the first question. Dick has diarrhea of the mouth.

DebinNC

"Great. I'm in favor of those trade bills [I finally sent over], and am glad they're passing." Apparently, he doesn't talk to Harry Reid either.

Thomas Collins

I will guarantee that if Warren is the junior US Senator from the Bay State instead of Brown, there will be at least two or three key votes in President Perry's or President Romney's first term in which a single vote will determine the outcome in the Senate, and the same individuals who are lambasting Brown now will rue the day Warren defeated Brown.

I just hope one of the key votes does not involve a Dem attempt to filibuster a SCOTUS nominee.

Janet

blah, blah, blah...second question finally! Praise the Lord!
Millionaires & billionaires must pay more! Close loopholes!

O is fiddling in his pocket (rubbing the monkey god???)

Janet

still on 2nd question....blah, blah, blah...he's also gonna say blah, blah, blah...Republicans are bad.
3rd question NYT - OSW - are you following movement? He has heard of it.
expresses frustrations...
Protesters are giving voice to frustration.

Ignatz

John Tamny explains economics for the "truly dense" meaning Barry.
Excellent summation of why recessions need to run their course and attempts to blunt them are counterproductive.

Ignatz

Hey, Janet's pretty good at this live blogging too.

Janet

Banks can't have hidden fees.
Dodd-Frank bill is good....here, I'll describe it....blah, blah, blah...Republicans are bad.
I nominated good consumer watchdog guy. Bad Republicans don't want him. Republicans are bad. blah...blah...blah....
(this is all still answering the 3rd question)

Neo

Fringe religious organization Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket former Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ funeral, according to a tweet by top member Margie J Phelps.

jimmyk

Other interesting things to plot would be life expectancy.

I happened to be lecturing on this yesterday:
Also (sorry it's a bit small)


NK

TCollins-- great point; if Nevada, Delaware and colorado tea partiers showed more common sense, Joe Biden would be casting tie breaking votes every day in the Senate.

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