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Freddie Mac

Woot! Woot!

Neo

Newt ascends, and Barney Frank is just gay

Barney

I decided to stick with the down-home pimpery of men, instead of the high-falootin' crony-capitalist pimpery that I like to festoon as liberalism. At least the former is honest. I can go home, look myself in the mirror and say, "Barn, you pimped a few gigolos today and nobody got hurt and no economies were destroyed as a result."

Gmax

Barney Bag thing means that another shoe is about to drop. Either there is a scandal about to break with good ol Barn, or the environment is so toxic that he does not feel he can get reelected even in Massachusetts. Hide and watch.

Appalled

There is a point, people, when one has to ask WTF. I understand Romney's demerits. Really, I do. But the best the anti-Romney forces can do is propose candidates who are found wanting, and dredge up the only candidate who is a bigger retread than "Mittens". I mean, seriously, Bill Clinton successfully used Newt as a punching bag. Newt hardly lives the Christian Coalition ideal lifestyle. Newt has as many left wing moments as Mitt. (Climate change, immigration, the whole Ripon Society thing, the dissing of the Ryan Plan as "Right-wing social engineering."

The Romney hate is a serious matter. The Romney haters, though, need to come up with a serious candidate, or simply figure out whether thry prefer Obama to Romney. Replacing a left-wing guy who isn't up to the job with a right-wing guy who isn't up to the job IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT.

As a voter, I really am in for the Lawn Gnome, in a Lawn Gnome vs. Obama election. However, this does not mean I will necessarily vote for a GOP candidate who is worse than a lawn gnome. Gingrich, for me, falls in that category. He has all the risks of a talk show candidate, without even the ideological consistancy that is supposed to excuse the risks.

You people in NH, Iowa and South Carolina. Pay attention to what you are doing. Please!

narciso

The fact that Nate is on to this, is probably proof that the wave is over, he's like the Jim Cramer of polling,

centralcal

Next in line on the banking committee, the highly intelligent Maxine Waters.

GMAX

Some part of me wants to tell the guy who voted for Zero that his judgement is so bad that I am unlikely to take any advice this time around. Anyone else with me on that?

Porchlight

Some part of me wants to tell the guy who voted for Zero that his judgement is so bad that I am unlikely to take any advice this time around. Anyone else with me on that?

Gmax, here's what I had already typed before I read your comment:

It is funny when Obama voters think their opinion on GOP candidates should be taken seriously.

Barney

I figure the $12M yearly bonuses as head of FM would be nice. Instead of just being FM's butt boy, for cwying out woud. What a countwy! When you can make a $12M bonus for wuining an economy with Congwess's help!

Rick Ballard

Gmax,

It may be that Barney does not wish to be the face of the proglodyte rump of the Democrat Party which remains after next years humiliating defeat.

Don't discourage Appalled. I want to hear his sincere rationale for being unable to vote for Perry when he pops to the top again.

Benjamin Franklin

White phosphorus as a genetic clusterf*** was news to me. But
DEPLETED uranium always struck me as the modern version of
'Duck and Cover !'. Depleted uranium? Really? How do you do that?

Warning; Disturbing images...


http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=80103&s2=02

steve

Consider me underwhelmed with Silver's analysis.

Cutting away the fancy words, all he is saying is that the endorsement correlates somewhat to the endorsed candidate gaining some level of support. And isn't this the case with pretty much every endorsement? There are always some people who make up their minds because of/coincidental with newspapers making endorsements.

Thomas Collins
"Romney haters"

So, Appalled, the fact that I am skeptical that Romney will make a concerted effort to reverse the Euro-Nanny-Social State slide of the US makes me a Romney hater? Perhaps Romney supporters should be more careful about stereotyping those of us who are skeptical of Romney but are willing the listen to arguments of Romney supporters.

As far as who is serious and who isn't, I'd suggest Gingrich's practical accomplishments as Speaker at least rival and most likely exceed Romney's accomplishments as MassGuv (and I have previously acknowledged in at least one JOM post that Romney was subject to the constraint of being Guv in a Dem dominated state). In addition, unless we are listening to different debates, I would think that the least we could agree on is that Gingrich has been serious and focused in the debates.

By the way, Appalled, does your reference to "right-wing guy" include Gingrich? I hope not. Gingrich has already been in the mainstream of conservative politicians.

Neo

On Tuesday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis cut their estimate of growth in the third quarter ending September from 2.5% to 2%. Then on Wednesday, the Federal Reserve rocked financial markets by forcing America’s 31 largest U.S. banks to “stress test” balance sheets to determine their capability to withstand an 8% drop in the economy; which would cause home prices to plunge by 21%, and unemployment rate to jump to 13%.

OMG

Ignatz

--But the best the anti-Romney forces can do.......You people in NH, Iowa and South Carolina. Pay attention to what you are doing. Please!--

Your appeal to the latter should have informed you that your description of the former was probably not credible.
I seriously doubt there is any anti-Romney group of people anywhere that could be described as "forces."
There are some guys and gals who aren't Romney and want to beat him, but they're also trying to beat each other.
The only real "forces" are the voters and they are virtually unorganized in any way, except loosely by party affiliation.

Hide & Vote.

Don't know where I read it, but I heard that Newt was pissed about being fooled over CAGW. He may be able to use that passion to be a little more aggressive with the issue, which I, of course, think is huge. Would Romney push so hard? I wish, and it may be so. It's really all falling apart, especially in Great Britain.
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Rocco

Perhaps the UL has had some success predicting the primary candidate, but as Redstate's Neil Stevens informs us, "After Ronald Reagan in 1980, none of those Republicans endorsed by the newspaper became president."

http://news.investors.com/Article/592926/201111280824/newt-gingrich-new-hampshire-union-leader-endorsement-mitt-romney.htm

Benjamin Franklin


So what's another $13 Billion? I mean. based on the scale of this shell game.

Nanny State squared....Your Auntie's food stamps are certainly
not the real problem.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html

“When you see the dollars the banks got, it’s hard to make the case these were successful institutions,” says Sherrod Brown, a Democratic Senator from Ohio who in 2010 introduced an unsuccessful bill to limit bank size. “This is an issue that can unite the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. There are lawmakers in both parties who would change their votes now.”
The size of the bailout came to light after Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News, won a court case against the Fed and a group of the biggest U.S. banks called Clearing House Association LLC to force lending details into the open.

rse

I am going to stick up for appalled. Anyone who has lived with Newt's inconsistencies for as long as anyone in Ga paying attention has got to be wary of what foolish thing he will do or say when it matters.

OMG but replacing him with someone still quite enthralled with how wonderful he is is concerning.

Academic, politician, lobbyist is not exactly the CV of the person who can pare back govt at all levels or really appreciate what drives free enterprise not big enough to be a rent seeker.

Appalled

GMAX asks why anyone should listen to an Obama voter...and that's a fair question. The best answer I can give is that you will need to persuade persuadable Obama voters to win in 2012.

When it comes to be Perry vs. Obama -- let me admit that I am undecided. I don't necessarily see the Perry re-surge coming, myself, but it might happen.

The problem I have seen with Perry, beyond the debate brain freezes, is a propensity to make some radical proposal that has no hope of passage. I am not big on Jacobins and bomb trowers in general, but really have no respect for those who talk big in order to cover up a general intention to do nothing. I had this problem with a lot of the GOP freshmen who kept insisting on plans that would likely never pass.

But I have not really done the due diligence on Perry that would allow me to reject him head on head with Obama. Gingrich -- well, I have lots of familiarity and lots of contempt.

narciso

We owe close to 16 trillion dollars, and that's not counting the unfunded liabilities, trimming the edges just won't do. Now I'll
admit that Perry's proposals on Social Security were haphazard at best, and his take on QE 2, was a little incendiary.

Benjamin Franklin

I usually stay out of these intramural cat fights, but I must say something about the 'serious' candidates.

Serious candidates create a machine of staff personnel. Newt can't keep a staff and Cain, as far as I know, still doesn't have one.

Benjamin Franklin

Perry, I think is serious. But he is a Texas celebrity and you know how those 'entourages' work, don't you?

Charlie Sheenj had an entourage. You know, cheerleaders who make sure there are no red M&Ms in the bowl and tell you how great you
are around the clock. It's easy to start believing what they say. The softer the head, the easier the Mark.

Old Lurker

And not counting the unfunded liabilities is huge. Not to mention the Funded part of those are not really funded at all (to the extent they are funded with Fed IOUs vs hard cash).

We are approaching $100T in promises made.

Gmax

you will need to persuade persuadable Obama voters to win in 2012.


Zero has done a quite fair and credible job on that already. As the dense BOR observed, there are "only" 9% of Obama voters who will not vote for him this go round in most polls. Only.

narciso

Like Obama's 300 foreign policy advisors, including Richard 'Winnie the Pooh' Danzig.

Appalled

Gmax:

I think that 9% (is that 9% of all voters, or just 9% of the percentage he got) is talking in terms of Generic Republican vs Obama. That percentage might decline if the GOP nominated a candidate who comes across as unqualified.

Jane

As I said on the other thread, Barney is not leaving because of redistricting. We are losing one seat and John Oliver has already announced his retirement.

Benjamin Franklin

You're an idiot if you think his campaign was run poorly.

Jane

That should be "Olver".

Jack is Back!

Appalled,

Name the current republican candidate that is unqualified for POTUS? What is your benchmark?

The Constitution?

Obama?

Their CV and public or private service record?

Or is it just "perception" versus reality?

The trouble we have with the primary selection process is that the defining middle population of independent voters do not participate and only in the general election do they get to decide. We got Obama for exactly that reason.

narciso

I knowe I seem like a broken record, but what about Obama's record commended him to you.

Jim Ryan

Barney's Frank would win in 2012, just as he did handily in 2010 against a decent candidate, right? The Obama stink was powerful in 2010 and it didn't sink him. It's more powerful now, but still not enough. So, I doubt that's why he's quitting.

Porchlight

There are many reasons to be concerned about a Newt nomination and Presidency. And persuadable voters must be persuaded. But these are people who thought Obama was dandy - and Appalled is one of the smarter, nicer folks in that category.

Do we really have to be scared off by their fears of an "anti-Romney" candidate so that we can nominate Romney so that these idiots can decide, well, Mitt's a big corporate fat cat, and I think Mormons are weird, and so I'll just go with the devil I know.

WTF.

Benjamin Franklin

past tense or present? As disillusioned voter, he has deepened my cynicism.

narciso

Specially since they are writing off the white working class vote, who seems more
disposed to take advantage of that circumstance?

Charlie (Colorado)

Replacing a left-wing guy who isn't up to the job with a right-wing guy who isn't up to the job IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT.

Wrong.

Appalled

narcisco:

What recommended Obama to me, ultimately, was what seemed to me at the time, some propensity towards being able to compromise (ok -- I was very wrong on that), a foreign policy that was not slanted towards wars, and a feeling that the Bush version of the GOP (which McCain represented) had reached intellectual exhaustion.

Jack:

Not being threadkiller, I don't have a terribly sophisticated constitutional vision of what constitutes "qualified". I know that being the wife of a former president does not.

I do expect some traits in a President. One is a general level of knowledge about stuff. I expect Herman Cain to be able to articulate an opinion on Libya, abortion, etc without having to have his press people do multiple clarifications.

I expect some sense of caution and self-discipline. I expect Gingrich not to decide that we need to repeal the child labor laws in the middle of some campaign stop. I would expect Perry not to loudly demand a part-time underpaid legislature, when anyone who has any knowledge of government realizes that would result in less Legislative oversight, and increase the power of the executive (and likely the Courts).

Hope that helps.

Danube of Thought

Replacing a left-wing guy who isn't up to the job with a right-wing guy who isn't up to the job IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT.

It is also not an option. Obama would beat either Newt, Cain or Perry like a rented mule.

glasater

I found this little trip down history lane kind of interesting:

Their Long and Winding Road

Boehner has called Gingrich a "mentor." And their 1990s rifts appear dead: He's told colleagues that he and Gingrich have "agreed to look forward, not backward." "They realize each other's strengths and each other's weaknesses," Kingston said.

I forgot Newt had converted to Catholicism.

narciso

But you don't mind a President that has delivered Libya and Egypt, and seemingly
Morocco into the ranks of the Salafi,

Extraneus

Who would vote for Obama over a rented mule?

Appalled

narcisco:

Um, if you think Egypt would have gone down any other way than it did, you are mistaken. I would have stayed out of Libya, myself, but I think the Euros were committed to doing what they did. I don't know what you are talking about with respect to Morocco.

Not sure I understand what you are saying about Morocco

MarkO

This is an interesting moment for conservatives. Do you want to win or to be right?

narciso

When he accused our soldiers of 'air raiding villages,' in Afghanistan, a hollow claim to
the likes of the Mehsud family, or that Gitmo
was creating terrorists on it's own, When he promised that 'electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket' what part of that made sense to you.

MayBee

a foreign policy that was not slanted towards wars,

Yeah, but I remember it was already bothering you (pre election day), all of his talk about Iran acting the way it does because America is so mean.

The stuff about him not being a compromiser was also quite clear. I know it was because I originally liked him because I too believed he wanted to have adult conversations and come to a well-reasoned compromise. You were here to discuss the evidence that he had never, ever been that man.

Rick Ballard

Porchlight,

It's up to Romney to close the deal and he has to do it with people who really don't give a damn about his carefully groomed resume and connections with every aspect of an oligarchy which has failed and earned every bit of the contempt heaped upon it. I believe that Obama would lose to him rather easily but I don't believe that he's capable of closing a deal with an electorate seeking a populist rather than an over connected technician. He won't help the down ticket at all and it won't matter a whit to him.

Evan Bayh prays for a Romney win every night.

narciso

When he said Iran was a small country, not worth being concerned about. the fact that he attacked Hillary, for the individual mandate, that would become the m.o. for his plan ,Or a similar tactic against the tax deduction for
insurance purchases,

Benjamin Franklin

So there it is......Romney/Hunstman 2012

MayBee

In fact, it is reading Appalled's comment that I realize why I believe Barack Obama will be re-elected.

There was never any reason to believe the things about him that people believed. He was never a reasonable compromiser. He never showed adept war management. He never clearly staked out a position on much of anything (the great "Pragmatist" packaging lie). He was never transparent. He was never cool.

It was clear as day, but people did not want to see it. I've no reason to believe the same people won't once again rally to convince themselves Barack Obama is something special.

Melinda Romanoff

Appalled-

Euros can't bring "lift" nor C&C to the battlespace w/o very specific NATO assets, of which they own little.

The encirclement of Iran was complete, yet was betrayed by an opportunistic, demagogic, Democratic leadership that sought to wring immediate political satisfaction versus a more peaceful ME and globe. Vision is not something possessed by someone like Durbin or Schumer unless the word "November" is included in the sentence.

glasater

I believe everyone is thinking too far ahead. We're assuming the world will continue muddling along as we have the past three years financially. There is no guarantee that will take place.

narciso

OT, it seems Morning Joke has taken Blutarsky's advice;

Benjamin Franklin

Mel/MayBee;

Everything gone wrong is the the sole province of the Dems;
therefore, (it's mysterious, the reasons, why) Obama will be re-elected.

Maybe there's a hint in there somewhere about the reason, why.

MayBee

Everything gone wrong is the the sole province of the Dems;
therefore, (it's mysterious, the reasons, why) Obama will be re-elected.

Why is this addressed to me?

(Another) Barbara

Evan Bayh prays for a Romney win every night.

That's good news; his prayers join mine in their upward waft.

Romney is our only chance of beating Obama and he'll do in this pinch. Sure, it's an outside chance only, but better than no chance at all (which would be Newt, Cain and Perry). Newt is the smartest guy in the room, but he looks like a 275 lb. bag of overbleached flour, has a history of flip-flops and RINO-isms that far exceed Romney's, and what Jonah Goldberg calls his essential "Newtness" will not wear well. By next summer we'd all be on our prayerful knees, begging for mercy.

Porchlight

I suppose if we must have Romney, we must. Rick, I hate even thinking about what he would do to the downticket races.

Benjamin Franklin


Why was it addressed to you, MayBee? I guess it was unfair to single you and Mel out, but it is a common theme here. Corruption and malfeasance is bi-partisan. But you would never know that from the discussions.


"I believe Barack Obama will be re-elected.

There was never any reason to believe the things about him that people believed. He was never a reasonable compromiser. He never showed adept war management. He never clearly staked out a position on much of anything (the great "Pragmatist" packaging lie). He was never transparent. He was never cool."

Yet you feel certain he will be re-elected. Is it because voters want the MOST corrupt politicians, in office?

MayBee

I didn't say anything about corruption.

narciso

From just about four years ago, doublethink is just too kind a description;


http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/11/krugman-gets-st.html

Dave (in MA)

Narciso, even at full screen I couldn't tell if "Aqualung" Barnicle was sleeping under the Boston Globe.

sbw

So now that Newt has been "rehabilitated" -- remember, even RMN was rehabilitated to a certain extent after more than a decade of ostracism -- he'll begin to gain Momentum with an early primary win or two. Then Sarah will endorse him, pushing Mitt into a blue funk and giving the fiscally more responsible approach a boost. Finally, when Newt includes Sarah Palin on his list of potential running mates, heads in the liberal media will explode . . . and ... well ...

It could happen.

Appalled

MayBee:

If I remember my 2008 correctly, I thought that Obama would not compromise on Healthcare Reform, simply because that was all the Dems talked about in their primary. I thought he would be more amenable, otherwise. My mistake.

I had misgivings on Obama on foreign policy for a number of reasons (his comments on Iran in 2008 were dumb). I think he has done better on fp than I expected -- he has NOT tried to negotiate Iran. My main complaint with him there was Libya.

Obaam, ultimately, has simply mismanaged the economy to an astonishing extent -- ignoring economic priorities to persue his own little lefty priorities. I did not see THAT coming -- it was precisely this sort of intellectual stubborness I really loathed in Bush.

MayBee

But you would never know that from the discussions.

Well, I've tried to discuss things with you but you won't engage.

Rocco

Maybe Sean Bielat has a chance now. I really like him.

narciso

What did he compromise on, his remarks on Iran, were more than just dumb, they were ignorant of nearly thirty years of history,
he sent the Ayatollah, the Nouwrouz letter,
and they laughed in his face, then he abandoned the Green movement,

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/11/bring-it-on---t.html

MayBee

I think he has done better on fp than I expected -- he has NOT tried to negotiate Iran. My main complaint with him there was Libya.

I didn't think Obama would actually negotiate with Iran, because the potential for that to just fall apart and look horrible was too great.

But I think that's the kind of thinking he grew up on- the US as the reason for all misbehavior thing- and his transition into being the real live guy in charge has been a bit uneven. In the end, I don't think anybody can ever predict what Obama will do, foreign policy wise. He seems trapped somewhere between what he always believed (the US should not be so powerful) and the guy who personally benefits from being the most powerful man in the world.

narciso

He grew up in Indonesia, where his mother came home and badmouthed the American oil men
and diplomats at the Embassy, Lolo's work with
the oil company, didn't seem to engratiate him with them either,

Benjamin Franklin

"Well, I've tried to discuss things with you but you won't engage."

I'm not proposing marriage, but you just passed on a discussion.

Dave (in MA)

Rocco, he hasn't said anything on his Facebook page other than to endorse Jeff Semon against Markey.

narciso

Their was a Claire Berlinski novel, along these lines.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4154375,00.html

bgates

his transition into being the real live guy in charge has been a bit uneven

New headline at Politico -
MayBee: Obama's Toughest Critic

MayBee

ha ha ha ha ha!

Janet - One happy cro magnon!!!

Maybe Sean Bielat has a chance now. I really like him.

Me too, Rocco. He was a great candidate.

Ignatz

--Obaam, ultimately, has simply mismanaged the economy to an astonishing extent...--

And that is the difference between 2008 and 2012, and why he'll lose.

Stephanie

I had this problem with a lot of the GOP freshmen who kept insisting on plans that would likely never pass.

So let's keep the status quo and not endorse big ideas? ISTM that the moment calls for exceptionally big ideas and that any other choice is just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. Romney is a nibbler and the moment is not conducive to nibblers.

The stables need to be cleaned out AND fumigated. Leaving 'only' 6 inches of shit instead of 15 ain't gonna make the horses that much healthier, but it will make the stable hands happy and unafraid that the fumes will upend their little fiefdom.

Danube of Thought

I think there is a good chance Obama will be re-elected because perhaps 40% of the electorate believes that the European model is just ducky, and that we can continue pell-mell toward it with no economic consequences at all. Add to that some number of women who are put off by Gingrich, or Baptists who won't vote for a Mormon, plus thosoe who are easily duped (see, e.g., 2008) and you've got yourself a nice working majority.

glasater

He seems trapped somewhere between what he always believed (the US should not be so powerful) and the guy who personally benefits from being the most powerful man in the world

Very good, Maybee:)

(Another) Barbara

So let's keep the status quo and not endorse big ideas? ISTM that the moment calls for exceptionally big ideas and that any other choice is just rearranging the chairs on the Titanic. Romney is a nibbler

Who is the "big ideas" candidate, Stephanie, and to which big ideas do you refer? I confess I've forgotten the man/woman you support and I honestly can't discern from that description.

jimmyk

plus thosoe who are easily duped (see, e.g., 2008) and you've got yourself a nice working majority.

I don't think people can be easily duped twice. Obama now has a record, unlike in '08 when people could project their fantasies onto him. I think the only Obama win scenario is clear economic improvement over the next 6-8 months, coupled with a weak GOP candidate. But a weak GOP candidate will still beat Obama absent an economic upturn.

Jane

I think the only way Obama will be elected is if the electorate does not understand that our economy could be roaring if we have a competent president. And I think we should be pounding that home every day.

People who don't pay much attention think that this is just the natural cycle and Obama has made no difference at all. And that notion must be changed.

Annoying Old Guy

I can't understanding thinking Obama has done "OK" on foreign policy. I will admit, he hasn't totally failed in every effort (as he has domestically) but overall I think it clear he has strongly damaged our overall foreign relations with his strong tendency to punish allies and stroke enemies. Can anyone name a single nation that has more affection, respect, or fear for the USA now then it did 20 Jan 2009?

Obama Ex Officio

Ignatz

--perhaps 40% of the electorate believes that the European model is just ducky, and that we can continue pell-mell toward it with no economic consequences at all--

It seems fairly likely Europe itself will provide that segment of the electorate with some fairly convincing evidence otherwise between now and next November.

Ignatz

--I can't understanding thinking Obama has done "OK" on foreign policy.--

Obama has done OK on foreign policy in the same way Clinton did.
He has taken the easy, feckless way out in nearly every area (China, Russia, the Mideast) or engaged in non strategic feel good exercises (Yemen, Libya, the drone war in general), which provides a false sense of declining tensions or increased security, but the long term deleterious consequences will be felt, just as with Clinton's pandering and lack of a serious strategy, after he's out of office.
Dem's no longer do strategy at all.

Jim Miller

Negotiations with Iran: It's my impression that Obama, in his feckless way, wanted those negotiations, but was never able to get a response from the thugs running Iran. (I know that there were some informal contacts, which is how these things usually start.)

narciso

Is it just simply stupid or evil, why can't they be both;

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284228/making-klan-boring-jonah-goldberg

daddy

Well I have to go with Appalled here,

Romney does have a nicer crease in his pant.

glasater

What's in "ascendancy" is Iran's missile operations. As in -- it got blown up!

Rocco

Dave, I think they either just had or they're having a baby, maybe we'll hear something when things settle down. Not that they ever do after a baby is born. My baby is 22 and I'm still waiting for things to settle down.

Janet, he seems like a great guy with Tea Party principles, he worked his way through college, he's a business leader, and a Marine.

Rick Ballard

Porchlight,

My money is still on Perry for the nomination. It's not conservatives who will send Romney home with the silver or bronze, it's hoi polloi who reject second and third generation legacy hires whenever there's a fresh face available. Clinton beat Bush as a fresh face, Bush beat Gore as the lesser of two legacy weevils and Obama beat a truly third rate third generation legacy hire. I believe Mitt to be far superior to his father, very intelligent and very dedicated to winning. He's still a legacy hire and he's still not a closer with hoi polloi who are sick of "connected" pols running the country right into the ground.

Newt might prevail for the nomination but I believe Perry would be more help down ticket.

Porchlight

Bush beat Gore as the lesser of two legacy weevils

How I love the Patrick O'Brian references.

Your legacy hire analysis seems right on the money. In a sense Bush Sr. was a legacy hire post-Reagan so 1992 is pretty much the same thing at work.

RichatUF

ignoring economic priorities to persue his own little lefty priorities. I did not see THAT coming

What in Obama's history made that a surprise? Now the Obama campaign is weather ballooning dropping the white working class, which should make for an interesting election season. Slouching towards the Chavez model.

Rick Ballard

Porchlight,

GHWB was a legacy as the son of Senator Prescott Bush. It takes a very good sales job to convince hoi polloi to vote for a legacy (FDR and JFK managed it very well). Romney falls into the Bush category and has a much tougher row to hoe (not that he'd know how to hoe it).

glasater

The Bush tax cuts are going to expire the end of December. And the first of January doctors are going to see their Medicare payments reduced.
If seniors get the picture that Obama is waging war on them -- and that group is the largest block of voters in the country -- there isn't a chinaman's chance Zero will get re-elected.

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