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centralcal

Whoopee. Another MFM debate. Maria Bartiromo and John Harwood tonight's moderators. And, then, on Nov. 22nd another CNN debate with Wolfie Blitzer.

Guess the gong shows must go on.

centralcal

Oops, left out CBS-Natonal Journal debate November 12.

Saturation point is when?

narciso

'the beatings (debates)will continue until morale improves (crushed beyond all recognition)?

Charlie (Colorado)

Saturation point is when?

Last month sometime.

Benjamin Franklin


Tea Party changes the National dialogue, now it's 'Occupy's' turn


http://robertreich.org/post/12168464049

"A combination of police crackdowns and bad weather are testing the young Occupy movement. But rumors of its demise are premature, to say the least. Although numbers are hard to come by, anecdotal evidence suggests the movement is growing.

As importantly, the movement has already changed the public debate in America.

Consider, for example, last week’s Congressional Budget Office report on widening disparities of income in America. It was hardly news – it’s already well known that the top 1 percent now gets 20 percent of the nation’s income, up from 9 percent in the late 1970s.

But it’s the first time such news made the front page of the nation’s major newspapers.

Why? Because for the first time in more than half a century, a broad cross-section of the American public is talking about the concentration of income, wealth, and political power at the top.

Score a big one for the Occupiers."

Benjamin Franklin

10.000 students protesting in London..


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/15/julian-assange-addresses-london-occupy-wall-street-protest.html

"Julian Assange, the mercurial founder of WikiLeaks and anarchist extraordinaire, made a surprise appearance at London’s Saint Paul’s Cathedral today to address crowds of protesters occupying the city’s financial district.

Outside Paternoster Square, along Ludgate Hill Road, a sea of people thronged behind a line of riot cops, unable to access the heart of the protest. As Assange and his security detail made its way from the back of the square, through the police cordon and past the Marks & Spencer and Starbucks, cheers erupted from the crowd—which included members of the hacktivist collective Anonymous who helped organize the event and who turned up sporting devilish Guy Fawkes masks. Assange—dressed in his typical attire of a leather jacket and blue jeans—reached the cathedral stairs, and protesters thronged before him. “Sit down, sit down!” people cried."

Threadkiller

Open thread!? Wahoo!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/the_great_american_memory_hole.html

Obama's history, Solyndra, Chrysler takeover, and Justia all in one article. Man oh man!

Plenty of links at the American Thinker.

SWarren

My young son-in-law who is an air traffic controller at Oakland County airport just called to tell me he landed some of the candidates today.
He thought it interesting that Romney and Herman Cain shared a big Gulfstream. Speculating that they may end up aRomney/Cain ticket.
Others (Gingrich and Perry) came in separately on smaller private planes.

I guess the others must have flown commercial and landed at Detroit Metro.

MayBee

wasn't that in October, Ben Franklin?

I think the London camp was broken up today.

MayBee

And Assange has since lost his extradition appeal.

Benjamin Franklin

Well, Assange appearing was news to me.

Rick Ballard

"He thought it interesting that Romney and Herman Cain shared a big Gulfstream."

Thanks, SWarren. Coordination and planning of a joint effort requires that the principals spend time together. It's a very thrifty move on their part and I commend their efforts to maximize efficiency while saving money on travel expenses.

Sue,

Your suspicions are borne out.

Captain Hate

Laura Ingraham irked me in the small amount of time I listened to her this morning. First of all she was teeing off on Kasich and the ineffectiveness of his message without mentioning the Duke & Duke contributions by the state party deciding to pull in different directions. Plus she's got a lot of gall in talking about "ineffectiveness" of a message considering she dropped a large watt station a couple years ago for some tinkertoy shitbox in Elyria which is impossible to get good reception of on the east side.

Charlie (Colorado)

Hey, folks, just to let you know, "Agent J", who we haven't seen in a bit, lost his wife this morning around 05:30.

May she be reborn in the Pure Land.

BobDenver

"Tinkertoy shitbox"

I always know a Captain Hate comment long before I read the signature line.

MayBee

Oh, I am so sorry for Agent J. How very sad.

Ignatz

Very sorry to hear that Chaco.
Agent J, my sincere condolences.

rse

Agent J-

You are in our thoughts.

Thanks chaco

Benjamin Franklin

Please convey my sympathy, Chaco.

centralcal

My heartfelt condolences, also, Agent J.

SWarren

My heart and prayers are with you Agent J.

matt

ChaCo, are you an Amida Buddhist? I have always found that branch to be beautifully inspired.

May Agent J's wife rest in peace.

Over here in Asia, more economic concern. A lot of major businessmen are very deeply concerned. The electronics industry is down and even without the specter of Europe we are looking at 2H/2012 for an upturn.

Best thing to do is tend one's knitting. Focus on that which you can effect. In the meantime, Europe is playing its game out.

This is why I feel that whatever is happening now, the game will change over the next 60 days. The left is keeping the Occupy movement alive to use it as a spark and to deflect blame for its incredible financial mismanagement of each country's resources.

The votes in Ohio and elsewhere for the unions are going to come crashing home when regular working people realize they have been snookered by an unholy combination of crooked politicians, crooked businesspeople, and crooked unions.

The big message out of all of this is that if you follow the rules, you're a rube under the current state of play. If we are to ever regain our self respect, the rule of law must be brought back to bear without fear or favor, unlike today's adversarial and corrupt environment.

Occupy GE! Occupy SEIU Headquarters! Occupy Goldman Sachs!

pagar

Please pass our condolences to Agent J, Charlie.

centralcal

Sigh.

Today, the Federal Communications Commission announced that a handful of cable companies will offer discounted rates to low-income families — defined as those families that qualify for free school lunches. Families that qualify for free or reduced-price lunches will also be able to purchase low-cost computers.
Captain Hate

Condolences to Agent J, of course.

Clarice

Agent J, I am sorry to hear this news. Chaco, since you seem to be in contact with him, we are counting on you to convey our sympathies.

Old Lurker

Sigh is right CC. This accelerating trend toward dual pricing of the cost of living in a society is not going to end well. Like folks from the French revolution up through OWS, when we finally cut off their free stuff, they will cut off our heads.

DrJ

Condolences for your loss, Agent J.

So here I sit at Dulles with a flight delayed for two hours. So I thought I'd see what is going on here! Any news in the last few days? :)

Our recommendations for spending your money was successful. I'm always amazed at how clever some people are -- I wish I had thought of some of the things I reviewed.

For other proposals I am pleased not to have had any part in their disasters.

Porchlight

The thought of Julian Assange at St. Paul's is nauseating. The grand symbol of British achievement defiled by the man who would wreck it all if he could.

pagar

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/09/occupyfail-london-police-outnumber-overwhelm-protesters-dismantle-tent-city/

In the Link above, Does anyone know what those green bags are that the police are apparently using to get rid of the trashers?

Threadkiller

They are fruitcakes, pagar.

AgentJ, my condolences.

Porchlight

Dear AgentJ, I am so very sorry.

caro

Tents, pagar. with flexible poles.

Rick Ballard

OL,

Blind Pig Finds Acorn

I'm not terribly concerned about the lice ridden Obamaville slacker corps. Burning down Blue Hells seems rather redundant and more than a little stupid with the OPM supply gone but what can you expect from Pitzer grads.

caro

Agent J,I am so sorry for your loss.

narciso

So sorry to hear that, Chaco, condolences agent J,

Vorstedt, thinks he can pick up the pieces, when Kasich falls, that's not how it works, apparently he was ticked that Kasich had picked Taylor instead of a Duke and Duke allstar,

Benjamin Franklin

" Does anyone know what those green bags are .."

Gotta be stretched sphincters the Status Quo removed for the
more comfortable airtight replacements.

Old Lurker

You should warn a guy before linking to Krugman, Rick, though to be fair, you did use the code words Blue Hell and Stupid so I should have known.

Speaking of blue hells, the one in Alabama declared BK tonight...the biggest muni yet.

Benjamin Franklin

"Blind Pig Finds Acorn"

You mean when Schickelgruber found Austria?

http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/does-greece-2010-austria-1931/2010/02/18/

narciso

Well Creditanstalt came as a surprise, one can't really imagine that anyone would be surprised this time, except the Chip Dillard
stock promoters on hears on weekend talk radio;


http://books.google.com/books?id=gV7UQVn_7TkC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=creditanstalt;+hayek&source=bl&ots=rZ3Qts0aMJ&sig=UzJqxwnc2UUU1_xjMPL8yvau8wM&hl=en&ei=Ex67TpfLH8XcgQfftuW1CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Mark Folkestad

Agent J came in here to briefly read your comments of condolence, and he asked me to thank everyone for him.

Jim Miller

Mark and Charlie - Please pass my sympathy on to Agent J.

Rick Ballard

If I remember correctly, Agent J has been fulfilling his vows for a very long time. My great respect for his effort accompanies my deepest condolences.

Stephanie

Condolences, Agent J.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

AgentJ has responded on Facebook that he has come over and read all the condolences. He says he is very tired and too emotional to respond, but is aware and grateful for all our thoughts and prayers.

Melinda Romanoff

My deepest condolences to Agent J in his dark time.

Jane

My condolences as well. We are pretty good if you feel like talking Agent J - whenever that might be.

Barbara-Lurking

Condolences, Agent J

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Is anyone watching the debate?

hit and run

I am so very sorry to hear of your loss,Agent J.

Jane

I'm watching the debate. Romney just knocked it out of the park.

sbw

Our sympathy, Agent J.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I'm thinking the quality of the questions on economics is much higher than I've seen in other debates.

Rick Ballard

"..the biggest muni yet"

OL,

How long do you estimate that it will remain undisputed champ? Chicago is showing good potential and there have to be some Cook County issues on the verge.

Gmax

If there is anything to celebrate from the Birmingham ( Jeff Co actually ) Alabama, its that JPM and Jamie Dimon took it in the shorts to the tune of around $1.5 B in Bonds that they held...

Blue prog hells seem be biting the hand that feeds them regularly. and it could not happen to a nicer feller than Dimon.

Old Lurker

Prayers are with you, Agent J.

Melinda Romanoff

Sara-

They're not "there" for me yet.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

The audience makes it clear they don't want Cain grilled about women.

Jane

What an amazing audience response to the questions to Herman Cain about the baloney going on - huge outright booing. I'm very impressed.

And huntsman still makes my skin crawl. N ow he's praising the 99%ers

Melinda Romanoff

Rick-

That's a big layer cake of used frosting.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Mel: much higher than other debates isn't really a very high bar :)

Old Lurker

Floodgates, Rick, floodgates.

Jim Miller

"Saturation point is when?"

For me, decades ago.

Rick Ballard

Gmax,

I'm hoping that Dimon is spending the evening reading the fine print on his CDS contract with AIG.

Old Lurker

True that, Sara

Danube of Thought

RIP.

Benjamin Franklin

." Now he's praising the 99%ers"

You can take more risks when you have nothing to lose. I think it's smart of him, and you should, as well.

hit and run

Saturation point is when?

Like DrJ says,if you're past saturation then you're not part of the solution . No wait, that's not it. If you're not saturated then the solution isn't clear.

Ah,crud. It's always precipitous to try and quote DrJ.

Never mind.

Jane

Wow this is a great debate. Do you guys agree? It might just be the audience, but I like it.

Benjamin Franklin

Gawd; I know I shouldn't say it.

Huntsman is the best answer to Obama.

hit and run

You can take more risks when you have nothing to lose

"Freedom's just another word..."

henry

Very sad news Agent J.

Is this debate on a cable channel? Or do I need to adjust the rabbit ears?

centralcal

It is better than many we have seen, Jane. I like when the audiences are able to knock the inquistors moderators back on their heels!

centralcal

CNBC - Henry

Sara (Pal2Pal)

On CNBC, Channel 48 on my Time Warner Cable.

Threadkiller

It is spectacular. Kramer should be in a cage, just out of reach of a peanut feeder. Max Huntsroom still freaks me out.

Please keep posting Jane.

Janet

Lots of love to you Agent J...so sorry for your loss.

henry

Thanks. No cable here, so I'll enjoy your posts as usual.

DebinNC

Asking God to hold you close, Agent J.

Threadkiller

You only have to adjust the ears when Kramer goes to far vertical, Henry.

Jane

I'm not live blogging. I've got a hell of a cold and i don't have the energy TK.

Jane

It's like the candidates are working together, against the existing conditions.It's really good.

Threadkiller

Me too Jane. Stomach flu. Watching Huntsman is helping me clean it out. It is The Gingrich who stole the debate.

Thomas Collins

Agent J, your wife and you are in my thoughts and prayers tonight.

Benjamin Franklin

"It's like the candidates are working together, against the existing conditions.It's really good.'

I always say, "If you stop banging your head against the wall...."

DrJ

Heh, hit. I can quote it again if you'd like.

No access to the debate here, but the bar did have Fox news on the TV. I was surprised.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Whoo ... Cain calls Pelosi "Princess Nancy."

Threadkiller

When will you do what you say?

Threadkiller

Has Santorum said anything besides "I"?

jimmyk

Chicago is showing good potential and there have to be some Cook County issues on the verge.

Ok, I'm naive, but why was this apartment development, "The Clare at Water Tower, a 53-story apartment building with Lake Michigan views and near luxury retailers north of downtown," financed with municipal bonds? The article linked by Rick doesn't provide any indication. I presume this is just the Chicago way of doing business.

And my condolences to Agent J as well.

Benjamin Franklin

"When will you do what you say?"

When will you surprise us all?

Barbara

Agent J,

I am so sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you.

bolitha

Well, I like the debate. I think any of the above are certainly better than Obama. At this moment, I think Newt might be the best answer, although Romney is doing well and his hair is mussed which is a "plus."

Jane

This is the best I've seen Romney. He's actually getting agitated.

peter

Prayers out to Agent J and family.

Threadkiller

"us"? You have a monkey god in your pocket?

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