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Thomas Collins

Yes, tut tut tut, Gingrich has no substantive accomplishments. Thank God we had Congressman Romney to lead the drive for the GOP to take the House and Speaker Romney to push Clinton to support welfare reform. Oh, what's that you say, that was Gingrich? Never mind.

Thomas Collins

I happen to think that individuals of good faith can strongly disagree about Gingrich or Romney. What I can't stomach is what I would classify as country club Republicanism coming to the fore as the GOP establishment attempts to sabotage Gingrich. I had thought that element of the GOP had subsided, but I guess not.

narciso

I would say, 'Occupy National Review' but that would be a pointless siege like Stalingrad.

narciso

They are never going to get the 'set of steak knives' that way;


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/15/house-gop-unveils-1-trillion-spending-bill/

matt

Today is the anniversary of the death of Border Patrolman Brian Terry, the agent killed in Arizona with a gun from Fast & Furious.LUN.

His family issued a statement, which was published in the LA Times.

Funny how the death of DEA agent Jaime Zapata is not linked in the media to D&F.

narciso

You know it's sad when the French are more exacting of corruption, than we are, it's a suspended sentence, but still.

narciso

The executive committee of Duke and Duke, renders their judgement;


http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/romney-gops-best-choice/256896

Clarice

USA Today:


The unmanned spy plane recently captured by Iran appears to be a fake, according to a former Pentagon official. The former official, who saw video footage of the drone on display in Iran, said not only is it the wrong color, but also the welds along the wing joints do not appear to conform to the stealth design that helps it avoid radar detection. The official requested anonymity because he is not authorized to release information on the drone matter. (Snip) The former official also questioned why the landing gear was covered up when displayed by the Iranian military.

narciso

I'm not an Iran specialist like Ledeen, but it does seem more likely that a radicalized
element of the Green Movement, much like what gave rise to the MKO in the late 60s, makes more sense;


http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2011/12/14/whos-really-blowing-up-iran/

Old Lurker

But if fake, why did Obama plead for it's return?

Cecil Turner

Hey, I'm in front of TM for once.

The unmanned spy plane recently captured by Iran appears to be a fake, according to a former Pentagon official.

I saw some conjecture (can't remember where) that it was rebuilt for display. The fact that we admitted losing one suggests they got something, but I doubt anyone in the know is going to be talking about it. The skirt around the bottom suggests something hinky, though I'm not sure what. One thing I'm sure of, it wasn't shot down by the Iranians and then recovered in that condition. (Which means they're lying . . . like that's news.)

Captain Hate

The Duke and Duke Christmas party invitations must have all arrived because today the usually insightful Daniel Henninger prattles on about how Newt will make Mitt a "fit" candidate. Again with the overriding attitude that this is a done deal. These dipsticks keep worrying about "blowing this opportunity" about which they've been in full-tilt squander mode for over a year.

Captain Hate

O/T I've always like Sandra Bullock (although that last marriage was a bit of a head-scratcher..) and the underlying reasons were illustrated in an interview with the Today show's head metro imbecile Matt Lauer. First he offended her by asking what she was getting her son for Christmas, which she refused to answer to potentially spoil any sense of surprise. Then he asked her what type of Christmas music she liked and, after she responded reasonably articulately, hectored her to choose one favorite song. To which she hilariously replied "I don't have one favorite song; life's not like that. Why am I even here".

narciso

Their nog is made with eggs from the Golden Goose, are haven't you heard.

Huntsman, also has a touch of Friedman syndrome as he thinks the PLA factions that dominate the Chinese government are like party factions over here, rather than the representatives of Don' Vito's Commission

MarkO

Still O/T. Christmas songs? Is there a better one than "In the Bleak Midwinter?"

As for NR, I miss WFB, Jr.

Pofarmer

Sounds like the attitude of a certain Vice Presidential Candidate a few years back, don't it Captain.

Captain Hate

The reason I prefer the Weekly Standard to NR is that, even though they can be cluelessly wrong on some things, they're at least capable of the "thinking outside the box" that most people give lip service to and then go back to not rocking the boat.

Captain Hate

Why yes it does, Po.

centralcal

Who are the "Editors" at NR? Lopez and Lowry and Goldberg, for sure, who else?

Janet

To which she hilariously replied "I don't have one favorite song; life's not like that. Why am I even here".

Hah! I love that.

Janet

Is Perry even being covered in the MFM?...other than negative bits in long Newt/Mitt articles?

henry

OT, but I must share. I found this on my desk this morning. Yes the latest in executive project management tools -- no project will deviate from the schedule ever again! As my favorite fictional fellow alum puts it "Excellent."

narciso

True, it's also much like her character in the Blind Side, Leigh Ann Touhey. They value candor, but more often then not, when it exhibits truly inane sentiments,

Jim Ryan

I just realized, with a shudder, what it would be like to walk into that booth with an Obama vs. Paul dilemma. Whom to vote for? The guy with the Jewish problem or the, you know, guy with the Jewish problem. The guy with anger issues or the guy with the, um, anger issues.

God bless Rand, Malia and Sasha for soldiering on in such good form.

centralcal

Janet, you asked and answered your question in the one sentence. Bingo.

NR not only told us in screaming red headlines that Newt sucks, they then struck down every other candidate, save one. Of course we can guess who that is. Why didn't they have a screaming red headline just saying they endorse Romney? Would have been more honest, I think.

Cecil Turner

I feel the need for some more venting.

Besides being inappropriate, unpersuasive, negative, and unsigned, the topical endorsement is dishonest. After first excluding the front-runner (and naysaying the also-rans) it proffers Huntsman and Romney for consideration. Huntsman's inability to break into double digits is a pretty good indicator of a throw-away recommendation, which leaves, [surprise!] Romney.

I don't mean to be harsh, but if there was a way to write that 2-page recommendation as one of positive points for Romney, I think they'd have done that. The fact they felt the need to circle around the subject and back into their first choice tells us something . . . and it's not very flattering.

Appalled

Assignment to those berating the RINOs at the Washington Examiner and NR.

1. Find someone, anyone, who worked with Newt closely with the 90s over an extended period of time (and not since) who is supporting him for President. Hopefully, the person says why, and addresses the criticisms of Newt's tenure.

2. Find someone who knows Perry and knows his Texas governorship well enough to demonstrate that the slack, rather airheaded performances in the debate are not who this guy is.

This is not a job I'll give myself, obviously (though I would love for someone to persuade me on #2.)

It looks like the NR editorial was effectively an endorsement of Romney. The kind words for Huntsman are political advise for 2016. The kind words for Santorum are sort of pro-forma.

narciso

Yes he was a Yale man, wasn't he,

Captain Hate

Yes narc; I think she was very effectively cast in that role. Maybe it's an act but when you see it mirrored in "real life" maybe there's more.

Captain Hate

Here's some free and helpful advice for Huntsman: Go away; hardly anybody likes you and that's not going to change.

Jeff

Its National Romney Online now ...

centralcal

Exactly, Jeff.

Cecil Turner

Find someone, anyone, who worked with Newt closely with the 90s over an extended period of time (and not since) who is supporting him for President.

Bzzzt: 1) As long as Newt's the front-runner, the burden of proof is on the other foot; 2) Endorsement by a Washington insider is the least persuasive criteria possible; 3) His record is predominantly public.

Hopefully, the person says why, and addresses the criticisms of Newt's tenure.

Prove that negative! Besides, most of the "criticisms" are ridiculous (especially yours from yesterday about him not being able to rein in entitlements or balance the budget).

narciso

You know they might sa well change the name to the Taliban Chronicle, and be done with it;


http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/14/2546579/marines-promoted-inflated-story.html

rse

Query alert!

Does anyone recall reading that in 1996 the leaders of the Democratic Party formally signed on to the Third Way approach that Blair and Schroder later wrote about? Was in the impeachment that made Clinton back off his and clearly others' formal embrace?

There was a reference to it in one of those insider books nonKoolaid drinkers were not supposed to know about or read. Also sadness that the Dems could not build public support for that approach. Gore would have been so on board with that approach as would Kerry.

I knew from previous readings that it was supposedly Bill who counseled Tony in early 1990s on how to take out that incriminating means of production ownership language from Labour's platform that was toxic to voters.

Does anyone recall from the mid-1990s Bill and the Dems actively pushing the Third Way?

narciso

Does this seem just a touch ahistorical, as they miss the interim between the two downturns

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-slump-wont-end-until-2031-2011-12-14?link=MW_popular

narciso

From the wiki,

"Third Way" adherents embrace fiscal conservatism to a greater extent than traditional social liberals, and advocate some replacement of welfare with workfare, and sometimes have a stronger preference for market solutions to traditional problems (as in pollution markets), while rejecting pure laissez-faire economics and other libertarian positions. The Third Way style of governing was firmly adopted and partly redefined during the administration of President Bill Clinton.[22] With respect to U.S. presidents, the term "Third Way" was introduced by political scientist Stephen Skowronek, who wrote The Politics Presidents Make (1993, 1997;ISBN 0674689372)[23][24]

He opposed welfare reform, till the GOP Congress pressed on him, the only real 'cuts' were in the military and intelligence, Blair certainly had a bigger role, returning Britain, to the view that
Hugh Gaitskell might have presided over, challenging Clause 4, and nuclear disarmament. I'd say it's another projection in the cave.

Danube of Thought

Minus 15 at Raz today.

Extraneus

NR describes the "opportunity":

Just as heartening, the White House seems winnable next year, and with it a majority in both houses of Congress, so that much of this conservative consensus could actually become law. A conservative majority on the Supreme Court, a halt to the march of regulation, free-market health-care policies: All of them seem within our grasp. But none of them is assured, and the costs of failure — either a failure to win the election, or a failure to govern competently and purposefully afterward — are as large as the opportunity.

We fear that to nominate former Speaker Newt Gingrich, the frontrunner in the polls, would be to blow this opportunity.

But they don't explain why we should trust Romney with it. Is there any evidence from Romney's past that would lead us to conclude that he wouldn't disappoint on all three items?

Sue

For the record, NR endorsed Romney in 2008. They are consistent if nothing else.

Sue

And we were happy about it then.

Thomas Collins

Appalled, I'm going to have to put aside your research project. The one in which I am currently engaged is turning up nothing, and I have to keep digging. I am trying to find something from Romney's stint as MassGuv that would give some indication that he is up to the task of dealing with an extended deleveraging depression, one or more regional wars that could turn into a world war, leading the US to better exploit its energy resources, dealing with our dysfunctional immigration system in a way that preserves our sovereignty while increasing the flow of energetic immigrants to the US, and transitioning our way out of the current Entitlement State. I'll get back to you if I find anything.

Threadkiller

--But if fake, why did Obama plead for it's return?--

He has a special place on his heart for anything that is fake American.

Thomas Collins

By the way, I think the notion that a late entrant would be better than Gingrich or Romney is misguided. Gingrich and Romney are both bloodied because they have been in the cage fighting. Ryan, Christie, Jeb Bush et al look good because they have been spectators. I'll take the surviving cage fighter at this point.

Clarice

remember when France tried to block us from going in to Iraq--to protect its petro concessions as we later learned though the left promptly ignored and forgot--well good news via Insty:

FORMER FRENCH PRESIDENT JACQUES CHIRAC CONVICTED OF CORRUPTION CHARGES. “Jacques Chirac, mayor of Paris from 1977 to 1995, is the first former French head of state to be convicted since Marshal Philippe Petain, the leader of the wartime Vichy regime, was found guilty in 1945 of collaborating with the Nazis.”

Captain Hate

Orin Hatch was on Laura Ingraham stating Mitt is the only person that can beat El JEFe. A lot of time has passed since he defended Clarence Thomas over those absurd charges by a prudish dunce. To Laura's credit she was stomping in mud puddles next to his pristine toga.

Can the elites be any more obvious in what they really think of us?

Clarice

Is Rasmussen's latest poll showing a dramatic drop in Gingrich's support, an outlier?RCP Average IOWA: Newt 27.2%, Bishop Romney 18%, Paul 16.7%
This includes that poll.

narciso

He voted for Holder and Cass Sunstein, what could possibly go wrong there?

Clarice

scratch "Bishop" I picked that from the source who posted the RCP average..Obviously an anti-Mormon which I am not. (Though it does unfortunately show how strongly some feel about that.)

Thomas Collins
"Can the elites be any more obvious in what they really think of us?

Rarely has a class of people with such pedestrian intellects been so convinced of their own superiority.

CH, at this point I think a David Stern press release about the Chris Paul situation has more intellectual integrity and coherence than the fulminations of the GOP Establishment against Gingrich.

MarkO

"Is Rasmussen's latest poll showing a dramatic drop in Gingrich's support, an outlier?"

We'll see, but I think Newt is unsustainable and will fall out. Nitro Newt.

Jim Ryan

I think muddle will vote in greater numbers for Romney over Obama than they will Newt over Obama. To them, Romney has the hair and is obviously competent while Newt is no executive and seems like a weird little hypergeek. They don't want to vote for the weird kid from high school who was always reading obscure history books and had no social skills. And while Newt will mop the floor with Obama in a debate, Romney will beat Obama in the debates, too. Also, given TV's effect, Romney will also appear to have won the debates (cf. Nixon-Kennedy debates.)

None of the candidates gets above a C+. Blech.

Jane

Minus 15 at Raz today.

What the hell is going on?

I find the mention of Huntsman by NRO really interesting because on day 1 of the cruise they announced that everyone was ignoring Huntsman because he was a non-entity.

Dick told me today that he was at the #1 restaurant and watering hole in town last night and they told him that every Sunday they put all the bar's TV's on FWDAJ. I'm quite sure that doesn't happen when the Pats are on, but I'm tempted to show up and see for myself.

I'll let you know when I get stopped on the street.

Thomas Collins

Jim Ryan, my concern is that Axelplouffe can do more with Bain Capital and MittsterCare than with Newt's mistresses transitioning into wives and being the Fannie/Freddie go to "historian". Clearly Axelplouffe will have the chance to sling mud at either one, but it's not clear to me that Mittster's HazMat operations will function better than Newt's.

MaryD

Jane -- Abe and Louie's? The Palm? I've been gone since 2005.

Benjamin Franklin

Tomaskey has a piece up suggesting Obama may have a landslide victory, similar to Reagan's in 1984.

Corporations seem to be reading the same tea-leaves after observing the GOP clown parade for several weeks.

Why wait to be a job creationist when there's money to be made and no hope of changing the Guard.

http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=124153519&channelId=2951&buyerId=newsmeatcom&buid=3281

Cecil Turner

My problem with Mitt isn't electability, it's what I expect him to do after being elected. Romneycare (and that bit about space exploration) are perfect examples of a thought process that elevates entitlements above other government functions . . . at a time when we desperately need the opposite.

Jane

Rovezzi's. I don't recall the others. DId you live here Mary?

Threadkiller

Karen Hanretty was on a local morning show. She was very defensive about Mitt being the best candidate. But she did conclude that Newt would win tonight's debate if he does not come off as being defensive.

Rick Ballard

"it's what I expect him to do after being elected"

You mean drag in another division of Harvard Pink oligarchs to continue the search for the holy grail Goldilocks Optimum? That would be a very reasonable expectation. The electorate is then left with a choice between the current tired and worn Harvard Red oligarchs and Romney's promise of new exciting tired and worn Harvard Pink oligarchs.

I'd prefer to see some Longhorns and Aggies and Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes strolling around the Capitol for a change.

Thomas Collins

Although I must concede that when he was MassGuv, Mitt's operation was very adept at bare knuckle fighting againt former Mass. Senate Prez and UMass Prez William Bulger.

Clarice

Wow, Jane--good for you!! FWDAJ=Fun With Dick and Jane, Jane's show. Star of Sturbridge's No 1 boite today.tomorrow , the world.

Benjamin Franklin

As long as the AUMF remains in force, the Iraq war is ongoing.


http://themoderatevoice.com/

"That the true story of the 2005 massacre of 20 Iraqi civilians, including an elderly man in a wheelchair and women and children, has finally come out because an Iraqi was using transcripts of secret interviews with the Marines involved to cook dinner is a fitting coda to a nearly nine-year war that officially ended today.

The events in the town of Haditha in Anbar Province were a horrific aberration, but they are described in dehumanized and almost blasé terms by commanders in the province as, you know, typical of the chaos of Iraq.

Colonel Thomas Cariker, in one of the many lies told in the interviews, claimed the deaths were caused by “grenade attacks on a checkpoint and, you know, collateral with civilians.”

Iraqi civilians are being killed all the time, explained Major General Steve Johnsonz, describing the deaths as “a cost of doing business.”

Thomas Collins
"I'd prefer to see some Longhorns and Aggies and Wolverines and Badgers and Buckeyes strolling around the Capitol for a change."

I'd prefer the Idaho Vandal and her family strolling around DC, Rick, but I realize that's not in the cards this time.

Appalled

Cecil:

As long as Newt's the front-runner, the burden of proof is on the other foot; 2) Endorsement by a Washington insider is the least persuasive criteria possible; 3) His record is predominantly public.

Look, my suggestion was an attempt to persuade you and others to bring up positive things about Gingrich and Perry, to answer stuff like this from the NR editorial:

Gingrich’s colleagues were, however, right to bring his tenure to an end. His character flaws — his impulsiveness, his grandiosity, his weakness for half-baked (and not especially conservative) ideas — made him a poor Speaker of the House. Again and again he combined incendiary rhetoric with irresolute action, bringing Republicans all the political costs of a hardline position without actually taking one. Again and again he put his own interests above those of the causes he championed in public.

If you think that charactarization is unfair, prove it. If you think Newt's contributions to getting welfare reform and a balanced budget outweigh (or perhaps caused) his unpopularity with his colleagues, OK. We know where you and others might stand. One thought, though -- just as Newt's accomplishments are public, so are his character issues over the years and his ethics charges.

Prove that negative! Besides, most of the "criticisms" are ridiculous (especially yours from yesterday about him not being able to rein in entitlements or balance the budget).

The criticisms I took out of NRO from yesterday came from Paul Ryan, not my own head, and were based on current statements, not his 1990s tenure. Newt's the one who is saying back off entitlement reform. If that's his stance, then it is not ridiculous to ask -- ok, how do you get the budget to balance today.

MaryD

Yes, Jane -- corner of River and Chestnut. Abe and Louie's is on Boyleston and we used to see a lot of politicians there.

Just googled Rovezzi's and the joke is on me! When you wrote "in town" I thought you meant Boston! That's how provincial I got living in "The Hub"

Benjamin Franklin

RAZberries, Newt. The Brooklyn Cheer comes to mind.


For the fifth straight survey, the GOP field has a new frontrunner in Iowa.

On this first release video, Scott Rasmussen reveals Mitt Romney as the new frontrunner in the Iowa Caucus.

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MayBee

What I can't stomach is what I would classify as country club Republicanism coming to the fore as the GOP establishment attempts to sabotage Gingrich.

I don't know, TC. The idea that the country club Republicans and the establishment are against Gingrich for some establishmenty reason seems one step beyond to me.
Who is more country club and establishmenty than Gingrich?

I find it perfectly acceptable to not want him to get the nomination. The last way I'd classify it is as some sort of insider vs outsider thing. It's completely an intra-establishment squabble.

daddy

"Dick told me today that he was at the #1 restaurant and watering hole in town last night"

Jane,

What is "the #1 watering hole in town"?

narciso

The problem is Appalled, did they do better under Hastert's tenure, which was twice as long as Gingrich's that did collapse in 2006,
when they adopted Medicare Part D, did they sign on the lightbulb ban at that time,

Ignatz

--Its National Romney Online now ...--

Kathryn Jean Lopez is a Mittens groupie and has plenty of pull at NRO so I'm sure she largely directed things.

Appalled

narcisco:

Fair question. I tend to think the GOP lost its way fairly promptly after the government shutdown, and doubled down on social issues to compensate for it.

Benjamin Franklin

I think y'all are just inches away from....

MITT !!!!!!!!!!!

But, glaciers move slowly.

Cecil Turner

If you think that charactarization is unfair, prove it.

Bzzzt. You think it's fair, you prove it. It's obviously impossible to defend against a charge of "impulsive" or "grandiose" which is why they were made.

Newt's the one who is saying back off entitlement reform.

Really? When did he say that? (Hint: that's not what he said.)

Finally, I'm not buying a critique of conservative bona fides from an Obama voter. Are you a die-hard Romneyite now? Or proffering a spoiler? And if it's the latter, why should I pay the least bit of attention to your opinion?

Captain Hate

The last way I'd classify it is as some sort of insider vs outsider thing. It's completely an intra-establishment squabble.

Ordinarily I'd agree with this but the establishment is making their preference crystal clear. They've stated that they don't want any personal attacks against Obama (shades of McCain) yet they're going full assault on Newt instead of coming up with something positive about Romney to convince me that he's the best choice.

daddy

Why even have the Primary debates then?

Mitt wins, Huntsman is second, Newts crazy and Ron Paul's crazier.
And Bachmann and Santorum aren't Conservative enough.

Okay. Got the Memo NRO. Thanks.

Thomas Collins

Appalled, prove that Romney is not an incessant dandyish flip-flopper who won't crumble in a tough election as he did against Ted Kennedy in 1994. Why do Gingrich supporters have to prove Gingrich is not what he is being pilloried for? Why is the burden of proof on the man who accomplished more in terms of GOP success and policy reform in his short term as Speaker than Romney has in his whole political career?

Benjamin Franklin

"I tend to think the GOP lost its way fairly promptly after the government shutdown,"

Do you mean that's when they lost the momentum? They certainly 'lost their way' politically, waaaaaaay before that.

Thomas Collins
"I don't know, TC. The idea that the country club Republicans and the establishment are against Gingrich for some establishmenty reason seems one step beyond to me. Who is more country club and establishmenty than Gingrich?"

MayBee, I agree that both Romney and Gingrich have achieved sufficient success and power so that both could be classified as part of the Establishment. However, Romney's clear weaknesses don't seem to move GOP Establishment figures to caution against nominating the flip-flopper who caved when Ted Kennedy toughened up in the 1994 Senate race, or the man who basically was run out of the MassGuv seat after a string of GOP Guvs in Mass. (Romney didn't have a chance to be reelected if he had run again). It's very curious to me.

MayBee

Ordinarily I'd agree with this but the establishment is making their preference crystal clear.

That's fine, but it's obviously not because Newt isn't one of them.
I'm not arguing that "the establishment" doesn't like him. I'm arguing that it isn't a case of the establishment protecting their own against an outsider.

NR did not do a very good job of promoting Romney. They did do a pretty fair job of explaining why they don't care for Newt. I think that's worthwhile. Others obviously disagree.

MayBee

Maybe the people who are in "the establishment" with Newt do not care for him for the reasons they've explained. Maybe they know him, have taken full measure of him, and really don't relish a Newt presidency.

MayBee

Nobody has to listen to these guys.

MayBee

I want someone who will work with Paul Ryan, who understands finance, and who will not spend his presidential speeches calling opponents slurpee drinkers.

Jack is Back! (The Anti-Prick)

OT: I have to share with all of you a book I am reading. It is "Soft Target", the latest by Stephen Hunter without Bob Lee Swagger but at least his daughter Nikki is involved. Truly escapist fiction for gun nuts like me but the best part is how he has decided to write this one.

It is a parody of Obama but cast as Colonel Obobo the new head of the Minnesota State Police via Harvard Law School, a number of LE functions around the country where he progressed according to the Peter Principle while being protected by a guy named Renfro (AKA Axelrod). It is truly an amazing descriptive potrait of JEF including references by his collegues to "The One".

He now must respond to a massive terrorists attack, killings and hostage taking at the Mall of America outside Minneapolis. Here he is absolutely at his Obama/Obobo best - vasillating, charming, indecisive, apologetic - all the while the terrorists (or are they), who are young Somalis start executing hostages at random.

As you read the book you anticipate correctly every move Obobo makes and his collegues reactions because you already know him so well. It is an uncanny method of putting Obama in a 3AM phone call situation and truly showing how he would react. The scariest book of the 21st century. Thank God for Ray Cruz, a retired Marine sniper and son of Bob Lee Swagger, and the FBI.

I just hope life never imitates art in this situation with this particular character.

Jane

Mary,

If I make it to Boston, trust me, everyone will know.

Daddy - Rovezzi's altho Cedar Street is giving it a run for its money at least in the food department.

narciso

Since this whole thing has gotten very silly indeed,

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/12/15/josh-on-the-skeptic-computer-raid/

Threadkiller

If Mitt has the substance I am told he has, I would think he would make the case himself. He is losing debates to the "obvious" loser. Now his entourage has to do what he can't do.

This reminds me of Mr Burgess' O-puss. I can't wait to see who Mitt picks to "tear up" Newt.

Dave (in MA)

The claim is always that the climategate e-mails were stolen. Wouldn't the simpler explanation be that someone on the inside is blowing the whistle?

Benjamin Franklin

Gun nuts for SOPA....heh- Iran's 'tollahs' salute you...

"In their attack on SOPA and the Senate version of the bill, known as the PROTECT IP Act, the tech leaders claimed the proposals would put U.S. tech policy on par with “China, Malaysia and Iran.”



Dave (in MA)

A lot of little pink feathers this AM.

narciso

Well you're being logical, Dave, the scam being perpetrated in those emails, would give
the 'Leverage' crew, second thoughts, and they are pretty good.

centralcal

Mark Steyn from NRO today - a little dissent:

Re that NR editorial, I would like, politely, to dissent from my colleagues’ dismissal of Perry and Bachmann.

In the former case, a handful of poor debate performances should not disqualify a man from executive responsibility: our age’s veneration for men with “nothing to do but think and talk” (in Churchill’s words, on the sort of chaps he didn’t want in his war cabinet) is one reason why the western world is sliding off a cliff.

In the latter case, Congresswoman Bachmann has fought a principled, conservative campaign with only one significant misstep – her overreach on the Gardasil business. Again, that shouldn’t be a disqualification. Nor should having more chiefs of staff than she has foster children (I speak as a guy who believes citizen-legislators shouldn’t have chiefs of staff, anyway). To be sexist about it, President Bachmann at her best would be another Thatcher and at her worst another Merkel – and Chancellor Merkel currently presides over the least worst western economy. What’s not to like? Go, Michele!

Go, Perry!

daddy

This just posted at Insty from an involved player says that Obama's Justice Department has now joined the Brit's 'Climategate' leaker manhunt

Benjamin Franklin

Heh- chickenhawk feathers....

Dang, Dave. I'd almost forgotten about that term. Pink is the perfect color, too.

In honor of this last day in Iraq; I dedicate all references to feathers to those who pushed for war, and sent the other guy to fight.

narciso

Ah, Mike 'Iceberg' Murphy has to chip in, after all losing 160 million in California, has to count for something;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republicans-wary-of-newt-gingrich-presidential-nomination/2011/12/13/gIQA5yViuO_story.html?hpid=z2

Benjamin Franklin

"Obama's Justice Department has now joined the Brit's 'Climategate' leaker manhunt"

They're after conservative bloggers. I think this is one.........................http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/tallbloke-towers-raided-many-computers-taken/

I personally feel this is the wrong path. But, then, I am consistent in my values, unlike some (wikileaks?)

Jane

Maybee,

The most interesting part of this election so far to me is the race by "establishment republicans" to denounce Newt (and as a result embrace Romney) and the amount of pushback by the yokels. WE have seen it here. I trust AB's political judgment implicitly, but I am no more willing to adopt her recommendation at this point than I am NRO's.

I don't recall that sort of pushback in other elections. DO you?

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