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centralcal

I never thought I would be so glad to see a Krugman thread!

Old Lurker

Hi CC. How is our Garden Nome doing this week?

Clarice

Me, too, cc. I was getting a big doctrinal headache.

I agree with Megan. Especially so after a month on grand jury duty here, watching a parade of kids who had lots of choices and rarely tok the right ones to upward mobility.OT, but via Insty and worth a read:


Related: Rex Murphy: Thou must not question Big Environment.
The greatest advantage the greens have had is the relative absence of scrutiny from the press. Generally speaking, it’s thought to be bad manners to question self-appointed environmentalists. Their good cause, at least in the early days, was enough of a warrant in itself. And when it was your aunt protesting the incinerator just outside town, well that was enough. But when it’s some vast congregation of 20,000 at an international conference, or thousands lining up to present briefs protesting a pipeline, well, let’s just say this is not your aunt’s protest movement anymore.

There is no such thing as investigative environmental reporting — or rather very precious little of it in the established media. Environmental reporters rarely question the big environmental outfits with anything like the fury they will bring to questioning politicians or businesspeople. Advocacy and reportage are sometimes close as twins.

And so the great thing I see about Resource Minister Joe Oliver’s little rant against Northern Gateway pipeline opponents a few days ago — asking whether some groups are receiving “outside money” or if they are proxies for other interests — is not so much the rant itself, but rather the fact that at last some scrutiny, some questions are being asked of these major players. Big environment, however feebly, is being asked to present its bona fides. And that’s a good thing: The same rigor we bring to industry and government, in looking to their motives, their swift dealing, must also apply to crusading greens.

Where does their money come from? What are their interests in such and such a hearing? What other associations do they have? Are they a cat’s paw for other interests? Do they have political affiliations that would impugn their testimony? In hearings as important as the ones over the Northern Gateway pipeline, with the jobs and industry that are potentially at stake, the call to monitor who is participating in those hearings is a sound and rational one.


centralcal

Hey, OL, didn't you hear? He moved up - Huntsman dropped out. Garden Gnome is sure to gain his voter!

centralcal

JiB: Interesting choice in Newsweak cover photo of The Won, don't you think?

GMAX

As long as "acting white" is the sobriquet that is thrown at students attempting to get an education and better themselves, there is not much money and or compassion is going to do to change the ghetto.

Threadkiller

"Huntsman dropped out. Garden Gnome is sure to gain his voter!"

I would think Huntsman would be voting for Romney.

Ralph L

In this way these highly educated elites produce a paradox - a hereditary meritocratic class.
This was a chief point of The Bell Curve which was lost in all the racial hullabaloo.

A bigger problem to my mind is that the educated (or higher IQ) are having fewer children than they used to, not enough to maintain their proportion.

jimmyk

Doesn't Canada allow many more immigrants (proportionally to the population) than the U.S.? Immigrants are much more likely to jump from poverty in the first generation to middle class in the second. If our poor are more likely to be native born, that would help account for why they are less upwardly mobile than Canada's.

As for our rich more likely to remain rich (which seems to be behind the Corak finding of less mobility at the top), it's hard to see why that's a bad thing.

centralcal

You would be right, TK. He has already scubbed all of his YouTubes and websites of any "anti-Romney" stuff before his endorsement today.

What a bummer for De Rothschild who was hosting the big donor cocktail party. Maybe no one was coming and that's why he dropped out?

centralcal

sorry, my error - Lynn held the cocktail party on January 12th, so my supposition should be past tense - "maybe nobody went to the party."

Jane

Newsweek Cover Story: 'Why Are Obama's Critics So Dumb?'

Now think about this: You get your news from reading the headlines in the grocery store. You don't care about politics, and have no idea that the problems in the economy are tied to political decisions.

Finally you know who to vote for - because the one thing you are not, is dumb.

narciso

Duke and Duke gets paid big time for this kind of advice, although a little googling
would have told him that a campaign manager
who would insinuate an affair to the Times, is someone you shouldn't trust;


http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/huntsman-withdrawal-should-aid-romney/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Janet

In hearings as important as the ones over the Northern Gateway pipeline, with the jobs and industry that are potentially at stake, the call to monitor who is participating in those hearings is a sound and rational one.

Bold mine. Yeah, who is giving testimony & who do they really represent. My experience with my neighborhood community association showed what a farce a lot of these hearings are.

narciso

What is wrong with people like this, yes she's the Parker of the North End;


http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/boston-herald-hack-obamas-a/

Jack is Back!

The irony of Krugman and his argument is that it is the progs/Dem/left nexus that blocks upward mobility initiatives like school vouchers. So, all the money, all the programs, all the government intervention since LBJ's Great Society's War on Poverty initiative shows the aforementioned results? And what do you propose to counter such negative performance? More wealth distribution. That's the ticket. Yuk!

rse

It's not enough though to have highly educated parents. A distinct number of those kids have had limited substantive dialogues with those parents and far more contact with a series of nannies. These kids have an expectancy they will remain UMC without a real handle on what it took their parents to get there. Plus the change from private schools and colleges from transmission of knowledge to transmission of a filtering worldview means that many parents and their offspring believe they have purchased tickets on the bus headed to success. They aren't recognizing just how little value that markets will pay for is being purchased for all that tuition. See for example Hahvard discontinuing final exams for undergrads unless prof gets express permission.

Over and over again in the lit I read what we must do for ALL students. What a low threshold that must be. Guess who gets hurt the most? The bright kid who wants to move beyond the circumstances they were born into.

Also the social capital and high IQ generally is viewed by educators now as illegitimate because they believe it is entirely due to advantageous social circumstances. Your child's abilities and knowledge are thus not considered to be theirs alone. Bright kids have an obligation in this view to stop their intellectual ascent and aid the less capable.

GMAX

The Scots want a referendum on the UK and Cameron seems willing to give it to them. The Scots are the only reason why Cameron does not have an overwhelming majority in Parliament right now, so he probably is willing to waive a fond farewell. Like the Quebecois, they wont pull the trigger but might the English push them away from the mooring?

GMAX

Jane:

Its Newsweak. There is a reason it sold for a $1 to Mr. Nancy Pelosi. Hint: No one reads the rag anymore. Tina Brown is a has been too...

narciso

Well that is the rub, rse, the 800 pd guerilla in the room, the content of these
courses, really no finals,

Jack is Back!

GMAX,

Polls of the English show them in favor of the Scots indepedance while the Scots are starting to show a reluctance for Independance. This is all because of Alex Salmond. He's the guy in the viral Thatcher video on socialism who tells her "[he] disagrees with everyone of her positions" to which she responds how "[she} disagrees with all of his positions as shown to be true by the condition of Eastern Europe".

Jane

No one reads the rag anymore

Nearly every week Dick quotes something he read in Newsweek. He clearly got a free subscription somewhere, and never heard that it has been discredited.

And according to Dick... he knows politics. I'm quite sure he has no idea Newsweek is passe or that it sold for $1.00 or that it is a laughing stock, and neither do the people who get their news from the magazine covers at the checkout line.

GMAX

I can remember vividly the words of the Harvard soccer coach trying to put his best foot forward with Jmax. "Its a heck of a lot harder to get into Harvard than it is to graduate from Harvard, and I can get you into Harvard."

Andrew Hofer

One thing I keep wondering, but I'm too lazy to do the work (other than some idle googling):

To what extent is individual income inequality explained by

a) the increasing proportion of business earnings appearing on personal income tax via pass-through entities (partnerships, LLCs, etc.)

b) Immigration, as you suggest above, and the higher percentage of low-income people reporting due to EITC incentives.

Danube of Thought

Minus 20 at Raz today.

MaryD

Jane, Newsweak doesn't even appear at the checkout line these days.

Extraneus

Thank God, a new thread.

PD

I'm an Obama critic, so I guess I'm probably so dumb I don't even know how to read and therefore won't bother with Newsweek.

What are they expecting with this headline? To increase readership beyond their already committed Obamaphiles? If so, THAT'S dumb.

narciso

Isn't a speech, by Krueger, as recalled by Noah, yet another rocket surgeon, told to Krugman, the classic 'game of 'telephone'

rse

actually I think it sold to mr jane harman.

jim ryan's rant upthread plus that newspeak cover reminded me of how lonely being a female atty who does not see things in the reflexive echo chamber way can be. Right now even good friends do not want what I am working on to be true but they have known me too long to doubt that I have tracked down whatever I claim is true. I just try to talk about other things.

Until yesterday when a young relative did not understand why I had a problem with expensive, reputedly elite colleges offering course credit for community service. I think I said a degree for good intentions will not create knowledge or skills anyone wants to pay you for long term. She looked at me with that sad "It should" look. And I thought about how much trouble relatives had gone to protect her from the economic realities of life.

GMAX

rse you are correct. My only defense is that I had not had even a 2nd cup of joe as yet!

Captain Hate

Tina Brown is a has been too...

Is there an alternative universe where her brief period of people knowing who she is made sense?

narciso

Well the Asaad loving Anna Wintour comes from the same milieu, Captain,

MarkO

LOL, Ex.

Krugman poised to become Handicapper General through a recess appointment.

Envy is never attractive and remains one of the Seven Deadly. Along with sloth.

Cecil Turner

A poor man in America is a very wealthy man; and yet nothing riles him more than seeing somebody wealthier.

GMAX

If Ranger is around, DAX and FTSE ( that is Germany and England S/Exs ) are both up at the moment, the DAX especially so. No real impact and in fact the borrowing cost for France actually drop a tad, so its almost as if the Bond traders knew it and once the downgrade happens they cheered what they already knew.

Ralph L

Which part of God do we thank, Ext?

Extraneus

From the McArdle piece TM linked, I think this is b.s.:

4. Their payoff matrix is different. Middle class kids can make $75,000 out of school if they get a solid degree in engineering, or a job at an investment bank. But most poor kids who study hard and go to college are not going to get one of those jobs. Realistically, dealing drugs probably offers many of them a more certain chance of making good money in their twenties than staying in high school.

Is it crazy that poor black kids focus on being entertainers and sports stars? Numerically, yes. But the odds must seem longer still of becoming an investment banker. People from their backgrounds become rap stars and football players. Few of them end up as the president of Merrill Lynch.

What's the basis for this statement? Black kids who study just as hard as white kids can't get the same jobs, in this day and age of Affirmative Action and associated reverse discrimination?

What percentage of white kids end up as president of Merill Lynch?

narciso

Yes, I found that column very condescending, I agree that their are cultural elements that
tend to restrain traditional economic advancement, but why is that necessarily the last word,

centralcal

At the baby shower this weekend, oldest daughter who has worked at her school district forever - smallish farm town - told us how they are transitioning every classroom (elementary school) to the iPad. They buy 40 at a time.

Raised some eyebrows among us. Even here in California.

Old Lurker

That will not end well CC.

(Another) Barbara

I'm quite sure he has no idea Newsweek is passe or that it sold for $1.00 or that it is a laughing stock, and neither do the people who get their news from the magazine covers at the checkout line.

Or get their news from the magazines in the waiting room at doctors' offices. Every doc and dentist I see is a Newsweek subscriber, probably because it's offered to them at virtually no cost. Gives me something to do while I wait though: stacking them up, covers downward, and putting them to the bottom of every pile.

narciso

No, it won't, the Ipad is a tool, but not an end in itself, If it was used in conjunction with Khan Academy or Academias Vasquez, that would be something else entirely,

bgates

Realistically, dealing drugs probably offers many of them a more certain chance of making good money in their twenties than staying in high school.

McArdle's lucky she's not Sarah Palin, or that would be a really stupid and racist thing to say.

Captain Hate

When are large numbers of blacks going to tell white libs to stop patronizing them with disgusting stereotypes possessing no moral compass and excusing criminal and self-destructive behavior? You don't even have to read between the lines to see that.

centralcal

Jane: Off to work, but somewhere early this morning I read that Newsweak only prints little more than 1 million issues of the mag, and has a subscriber circulation of only 40K. Don't have time to backtrack my reading, so can't provide a link and am relying on my memory (dangerous, I realize).

With stats like that, I don't think they influence too many folks.

Porchlight

Heh, (A)B, I do the same thing at my dentist. By the time I'm out of there, Sports Illustrated and Road & Track are at the top of every pile.

PD

A poor man in America is a very wealthy man; and yet nothing riles him more than seeing somebody wealthier.

Not just the poor man. I think it was Benjamin Graham who observed that nothing aggravates a man like seeing the next man's investments go up more than his own.

narciso

The header below the title, is ESPN 'dropping the ball' when did they ever have it;

Jack is Back!

Actually, one of the CEO's of Merrill Lynch (once or twice removed) was in fact a black guy. You'd think a business writer like McArdle would have known that?

Captain Hate

Here's something a real commissioner should be looking into: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14/3371495/arrowhead-anxiety-turnover-off.html#storylink=omni_popular

I'm sure whoever wrote that is having all his access pulled as I type so that Goodell doesn't have to deal with such unpleasantries when he holds court before the Super Bowl.

narciso

O'Neal, right, and Chenault the head of American Express, and that fellow who helmed
the Beatrice takeover, the late Reginald Lewis, who was a major M%A guy.

Jane

There is a poll at NRO: Between Gingrich and Santorum, you favor:

For some reason it made me cringe but I voted for Santorum who I have never supported, over Gingrich who I once supported. Santorum is winning 71% - 29% at this moment.

It's amazing how much that attack on the free market hurt Gingrich. I wonder who recommended it.

narciso

How many times do they have to this, before they realize they don't operate in good faith;

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/01/fact-checking-the-new-yorker.php

Jane

Did you guys read this? It's from a couple of days ago.

The most acute division on the right — the one that will give Mitt Romney the most trouble — is not between moderates and hard-core right-wingers, between electability-minded pragmatists and ideologues, or between the Tea Party and the Republican establishment. It is between those Republicans who disagree with Barack Obama, believing his policies to be mistaken, and those who hate Barack Obama, believing him to be wicked. Mitt Romney is the candidate of the former, but is regarded with suspicion, or worse, by the latter. The former group of Republicans would be happy merely to win the presidential election, but the latter are after something more: a national repudiation of President Obama, of his governmental overreach, and of managerial progressivism mainly as practiced by Democrats but also as practiced by Republicans.

Captain Hate

It's amazing how much that attack on the free market hurt Gingrich. I wonder who recommended it.

No matter who recommended it, or if anybody did, it's one of the unforced errors that's characterized his public life that supporters were hoping wouldn't happen when he was doing so well in the debates. He's a ticking time bomb on that stuff and if it hadn't been this it would've been something else.

Extraneus

Have I ever seen an uglier couple? Yech...(Clarice's link.)

Extraneus

Yeah, it was linked in an earlier thread, Jane. I wonder how many Republicans are in the "Poor Obama. Great guy, if a little incompetent. But surely he only wants the best for America" camp. Besides T. Coddington von Vorhees VII, I mean.

narciso

Yes he went all 'ramming speed' and ran into the wall at the 'stop and shop'


But I've noticed how Sununu went all 'Vercotti on Adelson, suggesting he might not get casino financing, how Primack did a 180 on Bain, over the period of a month, how CNBC retracted a story, that in retrospect may not have been false, really the Treasury would contact a relatively small firm in Texas, and not one of the major players along with Lazard and Merrill.

Captain Hate

The former group of Republicans would be happy merely to win the presidential election, but the latter are after something more: a national repudiation of President Obama, of his governmental overreach, and of managerial progressivism mainly as practiced by Democrats but also as practiced by Republicans.

If the former group believe El JEFe's policies were mistaken, how could they not want them to be repudiated?

bgates

I like to mark Martin Luther King Day by quoting from a description of the kind of society MLK's loudest supporters would like to build for us:

[the society holds that] is the duty and obligation of the individual to labor for the mutual benefit of both society and individual, under a warrant to the individual of protection, and a comfortable subsistence, under all circumstances. The person of the individual is not property....Nor is the labor of the individual solely for the benefit of society, but for the benefit of all concerned; for himself, to repay the advances made for his support in childhood, for present subsistence, and for guardianship and protection, and to accumulate a fund for sickness, disability, and old age. The government, as the head of the system, has a right to the cooperation and labor of the individual, but the individual has also his mutual rights in the government; the right of protection, the right of counsel and guidance, the right of subsistence, the right of care and attention in sickness and old age. He has also a right in his government as the sole arbiter in all his wrongs and difficulties, and as a merciful judge and dispenser of law to award the penalty of his misdeeds. Such is America

I'm sure the lamentable sexism gave away the fact that the author of that paragraph was not quite as enlightened as modern Democrats, but he's close. It's remarkable how well he captured the spirit of the social contract his party offers us all, with its balance of rights to social services and obligations to provide funding for those services. You can read more of the thoughts of this college President and forerunner of today's Democratic Party here; I quoted (well, paraphrased, but very slightly) from page vii of the introduction.

MarkO

When I first started reading the New Yorker regularly, about 1977, it was significantly better edited than it became in the arms of Tina Brown.

I still subscribe to the magazine, but nearly every piece has at least one gratuitous paragraph aimed at those who do not love Obama or the Progressive agenda, even in articles about successful economic activity in downtown Los Angeles.

Tina seems to have had a more lasting impact on the New Yorker than Harold Ross and William Shawn.

Porchlight

I don't think very many, Ext. IMHO 90% of Republicans are enthusiastic about wanting Obama's agenda repudiated; the central conflict is between those who think Romney is up to the job, and those who don't.

Porchlight

...and maybe a secondary conflict is between those who think Romney is the only electable candidate, and those who don't.

jimmyk

And don't forget Richard Parsons, former CEO of Time-Warner, born in Bed-Stuy.

Clarice

Yes, I think the NRO piece is bunk.

bgates, who wrote that? I can't tell from the cite.

Some years ago I finally gave up on the New Yorker.

Looking thru the horrible Dem dreck mags, Conde Nast comes out as No 1 in all categories. Is it just a leftist front? If s, it's brilliantly done.

narciso

That is remarkable, just like Lovett and Harriman are probably rolling over about the fate of their initial investment with Gene
Meyer in what would become Newsweek.

When it comes right down to it, McArdle's column is very condescending indeed, I know Parson of AOL and Johnson of BET, are from an earlier generation, but there is considerable mobility,

(Another) Barbara

Why do you subscribe to the New Yorker, MarkO? You are giving your money to people who despise you and all you believe in, and adding a headcount to the subscriber figures they use to rope in advertisers, their main source of income.

I was a loyal participant from Wm. Shawn's era, but wrote them a heated letter of resignation after finally having enough of Sid Blumenthal's carp, back in the days he spat out his hatred of Republicans and conservatives there.

I continue to enjoy some of the articles and fiction therein, but you can get old copies of the mag from your library -- as I do -- and they won't profit from your readership.

jimmyk

I also still subscribe to the NYer, though I probably only crack open half the issues for lack of time. The main reason is that it's virtually free--I manage to get a rate of around $20/year, and there are frequently non-political articles (Annals of Medicine and the like) that are still quite good. And I still like the cartoons and love the cartoon contest.

Ignatz

Hilarious bgates, except that the pro slavery guys seemed considerably more generous towards liberty than a similar document that the DNC or the Center for American Progress might produce today.
That's merits a bookmark.

Ignatz

--I manage to get a rate of around $20/year...--

jimmy,
For $20 you could get a subscription to an excellent magazine about fast cars and still have enough left for a subscription to an excellent magazine about cool guns and still have fifty cents for, well not much of anything these days, but you'd still have some change.

PD

Another good MLK jr. quote:

It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important.

I like that viewpoint (restraint of harm) a lot better than Obama's viewpoint of government as paternalistic dispenser of all good with its consequent restraint on everything we might choose for ourselves, lest we choose what might get in the way of government.

Jane

Yes, I think the NRO piece is bunk.

I'm not so sure altho he may be referring to left v right. I know Mr. Left was a big supporter of Bambi and since he is a finance guy/CEO type I could never figure out why.

He thinks his reasoning for abandoning Obama is different than the reason I didn't support him in the first place. He assumes I am a birther, and think Obama is a Muslim and the manchurian candidate. Now I've never said anything like that. Not once. My mother pretty much said the same thing. It's in their heads. I don't know how it got there, but maybe from articles like Newsweek.

rse

LUN is an article on the American Poli Sci Assoc pushing knowledge as contingent on race, gender, ethnicity, etc.

I think the author is too optimistic. My experience is that once an area of expertise disproportionately impacts any of these AA groups, the approach is to abandon it for any candidates.

And if these academics were less doctrinaire and better informed they would see how close they were to Jewish science from the 30s.

(Another) Barbara

The reason it is almost free, Jimmyk, is that you are more useful to them for adding to their headcount of subscribers than you are for the small amount they charge you for the magazine. It still amounts to giving aid and comfort to your enemies.

They had wonderful cartoons in the old, Helen Hokinson days, but I find them mainly uninspired and unfunny now. Nothing has such a devastating effect on humor as political correctness, and that's their focus at present.

Ralph L

Have I ever seen an uglier couple?
Henry Waxman and Miss America.

bgates

Clarice, it was E.N. Elliott, President of Planters' College.

MarkO

There's nothing funny about authoritarianism.

On that subject, humor, I was forced to sit through Letterman's opening the other night. He made fun of Romney, Newt, all those in the GOP field and never a mention of any Democrat. This was when MO's "I'm angry that people say I'm black and angry" was front page news. It is a classic bit that Carson would have covered.

My theory is that these folks realize the fragility of the Obama construct and fear that the slightest push might topple it. No one is afraid to make fun of, say, Lincoln.

That nice Mr. Obama, you can't say those things about him. Bless his little heart.

Jack is Back!

I love the New Yorker but only for the show, art gallery and jazz club schedules and the cartoons:) But at one time when they had John McPhee writing there was quality worth waiting for each month.

Remember it is called "The New Yorker", not "The Texan" or "The Georgian" or "The North Dakotan". That alone should be a giveaway as to what is inside. Don't buy it, let your dentist and doctor do that for you.

jimmyk

For $20 you could get a subscription to an excellent magazine about fast cars and still have enough left for a subscription to an excellent magazine about cool guns

Too much frustration for one living in Manhattan where both fast cars and cool guns are impractical or impossible, though the looks on friends' and relatives' faces from seeing those magazines on the coffee table would be priceless.

pagar

From Narciso's 10:02 Link

"as the White House continued to look for ways to create jobs and to promote economic growth."


Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90058530?President%20Obama%20reaffirms%20faith%20in%20%26quot%3BCash%20for%20Clunkers%26quot%3B%20Krueger#ixzz1jdkvw1Zl

In the years I have been following the Obama Regime, I had no idea they were looking " for ways to create jobs and to promote economic growth". It looks to me like they only kill private jobs and promote economic destruction of our economy.

narciso

You can't mock 'happy fun Obama' you should know that by now, he gets all 'wee weed up'

rse

I have mentioned before that numerous "the pol elites have plans for us" books lay out the importance of the media and cultivating what and how they cover desired talking points.

I marked this quote as an example this weekend:

"There will be an important role for the mass media in spreading the word and developing wide accord as a basis for political cooperation".

Captain Hate

I've been saying for 3 years that the MFM treats El JEFe like a retarded child.

Jane

Mark,

Those people have never criticized Obama. He is a God to them.

PD

"There will be an important role for the mass media in spreading the word and developing wide accord as a basis for political cooperation".

Guess it's time for a little rebellion.

Hey, "Question Authority" was all the rage a while ago, wasn't it?

PD

I've been saying for 3 years that the MFM treats El JEFe like a retarded child.

And we don't?

(Another) Barbara

I love the New Yorker but only for the show, art gallery and jazz club schedules and the cartoons:)

Subscribe to Roger Kimball's The New Criterion, the best magazine extant for art, theater, book reviews, political insights, and cultural comment. From OUR side. It focuses on NYC, of course, and presents what's going on there so compellingly that after reading each month's issue I'm ready to sell my grandbabies for airfare. No cartoons, but you can look at those after you've purloined old issues of The New Yorker from your public library.

Clarice

I don't know about Lovett, but Johnson became rich through special legislation which benefitted Black ownership of tv and radio stations.

Rocco

Though their divorce was notoriously acrimonious- it was rumored that Mr Cuomo walked in on Ms Kennedy mid-tryst with a married family friend-

What is it with those Kennedies (I solved the apostrophe problem)

Dave (in MA)
For $20 you could get a subscription to an excellent magazine about fast cars and still have enough left for a subscription to an excellent magazine about cool guns
How much is Hot Naked Chicks & World Report?
narciso

I remember that last bit from the Wise Men, if I'm wrong I blame Thomas and Isaacson,
somethings never change; re questioning the efficacy of daylight bombing in Germany;

Averell Harriman, to Lovett;

"I have not supported Newsweek for ten year, through it's difficulties to allow our hired men to use the magazine to express
their narrow, uninformed, or insidious ideas' (193-194)


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