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Gmax

Yes indeedy Landslide Lyndon has a challenger.

Gmax

US Women storm back furiously to knock off the Kiwi 2-1. It was a cold and crisp day, and we mostly played like we were envious of the teammates fortunate enough to being in full sweats on the bench. But young Alex Morgan heads not one but two goals into the back of the twine in about a 10 minute span.

The heater on my car ran at 74 on high the whole trip home. When you dont have any winter up until now, 38 degrees seems like Siberia...

Gmax

It would appear that this administration defining of a compromise as something we cooked up among ourselves to near unanimous agreement is not selling as edible dog food to the dogs! Who knew?

I find it incredibly fascinating how extremely poor the left is at playing this simple game of politics. You can not ask the Nancy Pelosi and Kathleen Sibelius and expect to get the same answer that Bishop Dolan is going to tell you. It aint that hard, but by all means Barack keep it up. I would love a 50 year conservative majority to clean your messes as well as all those back to FDR.

Tommy R

Mitt won the Straw poll of conservatives at cpac. Mitt it is claimed has moderates in his corner. What am I missing?

NK

GMax-- I agree. I posted on an earlier thread that we should put to bed "Obama as evil genius". Obama, Jarrett, Sebelius are all hardcore Leftists, all true, but they are incompetents. They have the whole Fed bureaucracy, the entire media supporting them ,and they still can't get this done right. They also have 40% of the voters on this, and they still can't get this right, why? Because going hard Left on CHOICE, the CHOICE not to have Obamacare mandates rammed down your throat is pissing off alot of people in the 15% up for grabs. if they went soft on their Left wing agenda (Keystone, back down EPA, token spending cuts in the budget) they could definitely fool more than half of the 15% on clearly win. But nooo. 'Bam always CAVES, he CAVES the the Left -- Keystone, $1.3 TRILLION defict budget Monday etc--, and when he does he slides back into Minus 13-15% on intense voters and back to 45% approval. He's INCOMPETENT-- THANK GOD.

jimmyk

It's the Peter Principle for tyrants. Almost invariably in their arrogance they take it one step too far and bring about their own downfall.

NK

Mitt/Rubio-- get it done. Put Palin on the payroll to zing 'Bam's leftist stuff 1-2 times per week. Let Ryan clobber 'Bam's budget (which Indy voters will HATE) Keep the Tea party happy, let Rubio charm women/young voters. Win solid in November. Give Santorum a cabinet position (HHS) and let Newt earn his next paycheck.

NK

jimmyk- smart tyrants can keep tyranny going for a long time. Look at the Castros and Kims. Stupid tyrants fall,as you point out mostly from living in a cocoon and overreaching. 'Bam is a stupid tyrant; incompetent administrator, and ignorant of the big world outside his urban left-wing cocoon.

narciso

The standard bearer has to carry the ball, and he doesn't know the plays,

Mike Giles

"'Bam is a stupid tyrant; incompetent administrator, and ignorant of the big world outside his urban left-wing cocoon."

His life seems to have consisted of jumping from one left wing enclave to another. Always taking a plane, and flying right over flyover country. Too bad he's an enviroweenie. If he didn't hate automobiles so much, he might have gone out on a few road trips, and learned something.

Extraneus

Great piece today, Clarice.

I'm still having a tough time fathoming why they see birth control as an issue worth going to the mat over, never mind defining as a women's "health" matter in the first place. It just seems so dumb.

Like Barbara Walters said to JFK's groupie, angered over the woman's book which tarnished the gleaming white suit of the disgusting reprobate, "You could have let it go."

MarkO

More from Steyn. It's about freedom, you know. This one is rather crisp.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290878/re-nuts-mark-steyn

MarkO

And this one explains that there was no compromise. It was all a lie, not even a "first step." Where is the outrage by the GOP members of Congress? Is there any?

Is there a plan to introduce legislation in the House that can be used to highlight the issue?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290859/nothing-squid-ink-ed-haislmaier

Frau Argwohn

From MarkO's link to Steyn. It's too long for a bumper sticker, dang it:

"I’ve been saying in this space for two years that the governmentalization of health care is the fastest way to a permanent left-of-center political culture. It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible."

Citizen or Subject? That's the question for 2012.

Captain Hate

Citizen or Subject works for me, Frau.

MarkO

Print that slogan. I'll buy 100. (No, I don't have 50 cars, it just seems like it when the kids park in fromt.)

MarkO

fromt?

narciso

All of which points the total uselessness of this campaign, what's that line, 'it's worse
than a crime, it's a blunder'

Threadkiller

"Citizen or Subject? That's the question for 2012."

That was my question in 2008. I lacked standing though.

MarkO

LOL, TK.

centralcal

Clarice: (and everyone else, too) have you seen this?

Unacceptable

The link is to NRO, which then links to a pdf of the Notre Dame letter. This war is not over by a long shot.

Old Lurker

"I find it incredibly fascinating how extremely poor the left is at playing this simple game of politics."

And yet they are on the brink of total victory of their progressive dreams.

MarkO

"And yet they are on the brink of total victory of their progressive dreams."

And, that, OL, is because our side is even worse.

Clarice

No. I did quote Snead in the article because at the time his analysis was the most cogent to me. As for ND however, perhaps the school should not have rolled out the red carpet for candidate Obama, a man who had inter alia been very supportive or PBA.

Is redistributing other people's wealth more important to Catholics than their own doctrine? I hope not, but at election time that's the way institutions like ND acted.

Extraneus

They may be dumb, but their hive-mind is strong.

Sandy Daze

Extraneus -

Huh?

Ever read the First Amendment?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
(emphaiss added)

Voldemort is redefining this to be the freedom of worship, not freedom of religion, indicating that everything inside a sanctuary's walls belongs to the faith, everything beyond the walls belongs to government, to him. Once the government can compel this compliance, when (and where) will it stop compelling your behavior?

Eat your peas and shut the eff-up, peon.

OMG-ABO,
Sandy

One child policy in China, why not here? It's a woman's health issue.
Granny to ill to go to market? Send her to the eternal mall in the sky.
Sorry Mrs Tebow, your son will NOT be born alive.
This is because the government says so.

Are you a citizen or a subject?

Do you have any rights?
Do you want to have any rights?
What belongs to Extraneus and what belongs to the government???


READ LUN.

MarkO

Why does the Notre Dame letter not include the fact that the reg was finalized despite the President's "compromise?"

jimmyk

I'm still having a tough time fathoming why they see birth control as an issue worth going to the mat over

I think it's what NK said: They live in a cocoon. That, plus thinking that most Americans are as unprincipled as they are, so that if, say, a majority of Catholics use contraception, then of course they will support this because it's good for them. Surprise! A good chunk of those realize the larger principles at stake.

Ignatz

--That was my question in 2008. I lacked standing though.--

My fear is it will be Mitt/Rubio which will mean it will be your question in 2012 too. Doom!:)

Sandy Daze

Extraneous,

Perhaps I misread your comment at 1016. When you said:

I'm still having a tough time fathoming why they see birth control as an issue worth going to the mat over, never mind defining as a women's "health" matter in the first place. It just seems so dumb.

I assumed the "they" was the Catholic Church, the Bishops and Cardinal-Designate Dolan. I am now thinking I totally mis-read what you wrote, and that the "they" was the administration. If so, (face-blushing) please accept my apologies.

If not, my 1108 stands !

ABO~OMG,
Sandy

Threadkiller

Jimmyk, this is the the push and shove match that makes DC tick. It is a big issue that will result in an unfavorable compromise that all sides will take credit for resolving.

Push real far and take what you can get.

The importance of getting this out of the way is to keep us from asking about the 3399 other "shalls" that are part of O-care.

http://mcclintock.house.gov/2009/11/3400-shalls-1.shtml

Sandy Daze

Extraneous,

I think I may have mis-interpreted your 1016 comment:

I'm still having a tough time fathoming why they see birth control as an issue worth going to the mat over, never mind defining as a women's "health" matter in the first place. It just seems so dumb.

If in using "they" you meant the administration, I apologize (face turning red). Oops. (Obviously an issue evoking passion.)

If by "they" you meant the Catholic Church, then my 1108 stands.

ABO~OMG,
Sandy

Sandy Daze

Extraneous,

I think I may have mis-interpreted your 1016 comment:

I'm still having a tough time fathoming why they see birth control as an issue worth going to the mat over, never mind defining as a women's "health" matter in the first place. It just seems so dumb.

If in using "they" you meant the administration, I apologize (face turning red). Oops. (Obviously an issue evoking passion.)

If by "they" you meant the Catholic Church, then my 1108 stands.

ABO~OMG,
Sandy

jimmyk

I meant to 'like' Pops's point yesterday about how all these mandates are for helping people not have children. "Women's health" equals abortion, sterilization, birth prevention. What about fertility treatments?

In fact, one could make a better argument that fertility treatments should be covered, as infertility (at least under the age of 40) is usually not the result of choices made by people, just bad luck.

But it's symptomatic of the diseased souls of these people that they ignore infertility and focus on helping people terminate and prevent pregnancy, treating pregnancy like a disease and the birth of a child as a cost to society.

(Needless to say, I'm not for mandating fertility treatments be covered either. That's up to the market.)

Old Lurker

Sandy, after a few generations of our version of "one child", then like the UK and Western Europe at present, our demographics will have shifted so much that our sub groups will have Balkanized our entire society.

Rocco

We heard a recorded message from our Cardinal, Sean Patrick O'Malley this morning regarding a physician assisted suicide ballot question in Nov. Last week it was Bishop Dolan's letter, today Cardinal O'Malley's homily. Perhaps the days of Fr. Drinan are finally over here in MA.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/02/11/church_fight_against_mass_assisted_suicide_plans/

Danube of Thought

So there's gonna be a documentary about the bimbo eruptions.

Another Bob

TommyR: I think what you're missing is the straw poll was a bit of an engineered win for Romney. (I get this from acquaintances who were in attendance who say they observed the buses used to bring in young Romney supporters.)

jimmyk

Rocco, I've had the privilege of meeting Cardinal O'Malley because he's very close with a friend of ours. He makes a very powerful impression of being a highly principled and ethical person, not to mention very sharp. He's not going to fall for Obama's nonsense.

matt

I never had sex with that woman!

(nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more!)

Gmax

Old Lurker

They are not on the brink of any such victory. 2010 brought 575 legislative seats out of evil prog hands at the State level, and nothing has changed since then.

You can not measure a presidential election head to head when the match up is not set. Just like the Hillary folks were not going to vote for Obama, but clearly did, you have Republicans and Republican leaning indys saying they will vote for Obama right now if its not their guy. That is even less likely to happen in my humble opinion than a lefty for Hill breaking ranks.

I dont mind our side playing like its the third quarter and we are two touchdowns behind, but I dont like the defeatism that clearly is unwarranted.

Zero cant even get to 50% in Gallup's daily tracking poll and it does not employ likely voter screens ( and may not employ registered voter screens either, I forget at the moment ).

Gmax

Another Bob, are you getting that from a Ron Paul supporter? Cuz he clearly pioneered the rigging of a caucus see CPAC in years past. There was not an online poll or a straw caucus that was not flooded with the Ronulans.

SWarren

Sandy,
The Notre Dame letter is all well and good but as a devout Catholic I was furious when ND conferred their Honorary degree on Obama. Now that the scales have fallen from their eyes, I think they could make a REAL public statement that would get national attention by rescinding that honor.

Rocco

jimmyk

I admire him for his public stance against the Democrat Party and their pro choice aganda. I believe he even called Catholic Democrats scandalous for supporting pro choice candidates. A breath of fresh air in this state.

Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

Some Ron Paul supporters are pointing out cut corners in Maine vote counting.
Anything happenin' there? Or normal political stuff?

Rocco

U.S. cardinal draws line with Democratic party

Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley of Boston, saying the Democratic Party has been persistently hostile to opponents of abortion rights, asserted yesterday that the support of many Catholics for Democratic candidates "borders on scandal."
Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Clarice's Pieces article this morning should be circulated to all Republican candidates.

The media and those who favor the mandate frame the issue as if retracting the mandate will somehow reduce an individual's ability to use contraception. Thus, they say, the matter should be determined by deciding whether contraception is or is not good public policy.

But if you frame the issue that way you are putting the rabbit in the hat because it leaves out two central matters relevant to how many decide whether the mandate is a proper exercise of governmental power.

Matter one is whether the mandate requires employers to subsidize abortion in addition to contraception. Matter two is whether the federal government should have the power to force a religious denomination whose central tenets forbid both contraception and abortion to directly or indirectly subsidize contraception or abortion.

It is telling that the pro mandate faction smoothly simplifies the issue by ignoring rather than addressing the issues regarding freedom of religion.

The experienced litigators among us understand fully the importance of framing the issue a tribunal must decide. To paraphrase an old legal adage, if you let me frame the issue, I will be comfortable with anyone decide it.

Gmax

It was pointed out to me today that there exists an organization called Catholics for Choice. I scoffed and said no such organization could coexist in the Roman Catholic Church as it is antithetical. But I started researching and find that I was right and wrong. It is not part of the official church and has been denounced by the church in the past. But it most definitely exists.

A former member and activist has stated that to her knowledge none of the folks at the DC organization regularly or even irregularly attended mass, and it was a sham organization set up to promote abortion.

Digging deeper I tried to find out who contributes to such an organization. It turns out to be cast of the usual suspects. Here per wiki:


Ford Foundation, Buffett Foundation, John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, and the Playboy Foundation.

narciso

It's as real as the Human Fund, gmax.

Clarice

Thanks, Jim.
Rocco, that is amazing news. I'll blog it and h/t you.

Gmax

Rocco as I have been saying and continue to say the Democrats are playing with fire while standing in a tinderbox on this issue. They carried the Roman Catholic vote in 2008 and still only got 52% of the vote at high tide with a rather inept opponent running against them.

They are already bleeding bitter clingers in many swing states. They can not throw away 10% or more of the Roman Catholic vote and not turn many close elections into a rout.

Watch ValJar to be forced to back down or watch the Democrat Party hit the wall at 150 MPH never touching the brake.

Clarice

OOps--Rocco, I can't--it's from 2007.

Gmax

I am growing to despise Warren Buffett almost to the level of the evil George Soros. He is not what he is portrayed to be in the press.

Old Lurker

Gmax, I measure their progress toward a prog utopia not by your look at the 2010 elections, but rather by the number of folks happily riding in the wagon to the dwindling number pulling it, and then by the number of people educated enough in mankind's true history and economic litteracy vs those who have no clue. That last of course must encompass concepts of virtue, religion, human nature, histories of the rise and fall of previous groups, motivations of our own founding and all those sorts of things. By all those measures we are much closer to a point of no return than the 2010 cycle might suggest, and are farther from a shared vision of what this country was, is, and should be than ever before.

Just sayin.

Old Lurker

How ironic to mispell LITERACY!

jimmyk

It was pointed out to me today that there exists an organization called Catholics for Choice.

Religions can't trademark their name, for better or worse, hence we get "Jews for Jesus," and the like. (Not to offend with the analogy, it's just an example where the mainstream religion would love to prevent the use of the name, but can't.)

Gmax

NO I respectful but forcefully disagree. The glass is half full not half empty. And we will right the listing ship and be stronger for the tribulation.

40 years ago we got our information from one of three nightly broadcasters who regularly slanted and shaped the news. That is thankfully no longer the case.

There are many more conservative young people on campuses today than ever existed in my time ( or yours I suspect given your moniker ).

You do not turn a battleship on a dime, but turning it we must. Get out your wallet, and get off the couch and go volunteer for the right candidates. There is nothing predestined about our demise, and there is much history which foreshadows an awakening.

Rocco

Sorry Clarice, I should have mentioned it was from 2007.

Gmax

Watch ValJar to be forced to back down or watch the Democrat Party hit the wall at 150 MPH never touching the brake.

Democrat assisted suicide...priceless!

Gmax

Well actually at least the few Jews for Jesus adherents I have personally met were born to a Jewish parent or parents. The Catholics for Choice is apparently nothing but one more prog astroturf org. Funding by the Playboy Foundation! Now that might be the most ironic of all of this Alice thru the looking glass nonsense.

Clarice

No problem,Rocco.

Gmax

BTW I sincerely doubt O'Malley has changed his mind in the last 5 years, if anyone thinks that I truly and earnestly have some seaside land in Kansas that can be acquired off market and cheaply!

Sandy Daze

Swarren @ 1224:

The Notre Dame letter is all well and good but as a devout Catholic I was furious when ND conferred their Honorary degree on Obama. Now that the scales have fallen from their eyes, I think they could make a REAL public statement that would get national attention by rescinding that honor.

Just back from Mass (younger daughter, Windy, an altar server and today I was a EMHC), or would have responded sooner.

Agree completely - did you read the statement of ND's President, Father Jenkins, also dtd 10 Feb?

“The widespread concerns expressed by Catholics and people from other faiths have led today to a welcome step toward recognizing the freedom of religious institutions to abide by the principles that define their respective missions. We applaud the willingness of the administration to work with religious organizations to find a solution acceptable to all parties.

“There remain a number of unclear and unresolved issues, and we look forward to joining the U.S. bishops and leaders from other religious institutions to work with the administration to resolve them.”

ISTM that there is slow-motion collision underway on the ND campus. Clearly Jenkins remains committed to Voldemort's Hope & Change. Ins't that the problem, looking for secular heaven here on Earth?

A letter rescinding Voldemort's honorary degree is not likely with Jenkins as President. As divisive as the original award was, campus comity ultimately prevailed, if only a mere fig leaf of cover. With the ND law school's letter, at least 26 ND faculty have publicly expressed their disagreement not just with the mandate, but also by inference their opposition to President Father Jenkins' views.

I am not a ND alum, but I suspect that the entire ND family, Students, Alums, Faculty, Staff, and donors are choosing sides. My money is not on Jenkins, nor, obviously, my support.

OMG~ABO,
Sandy

Porchlight

Gmax, I appreciate your positive outlook. Your frequent polling updates are a shot in the arm.

Jack is Back!

Tim Dolan arrived in Rome this morning and will be there for a week. His installation is on Saturday. Plenty of time to get the boss briefed and final authority to deal with the issue plus a combonation to the Vatican bank vault if needed.

I think it will be interesting what happens while he is gone.

No additional mention of this at mass today but it doesn't need to be - the die is set - the Bishops have indicated they are wary now of this Regime and will be scrupulous in analyzing any proposal or future accomodation.

It is not a birth control issue - it is "stop meddling in my church" even among liberal and democrat Catholics (at least the ones I know).

Old Lurker

I too always appreciate Gmax's positive outlook. And I hope I am wrong in my pessimism. But it just feels late in the game to me, and we are trillions of dollars behind already.

Rick Ballard

OL,

There's no source of OPM in the world to fuel further damage. The last exit to utopia dumped out a quarter mile beyond the precipice.

I'm of the opinion that reality is providing a post graduate education to those dumb enough to have fallen for the 'something for nothing' promises of the progressives. The American Wall came down in '10 - the American Soviet will fall in '12.

squaredance

Hate to break it to it to you, but the Catholics will still vote Democrat in the end.

They preach "Social Justice" from the pulpit at my parish, and during the "official" reading of prayer requests we often get a raft of "socialist prayers"--race, poverty, fairness, women's rights, etc. Any reasonable attempts to drill into the moral, theological or social impact of these "prayers" are met with invective, ostracization and left wing cant.

Whatever official policy or response there may be, the Democrats co-opted the American Church 50 years ago.

I often ask these Catholic "soft socialists" how they square their voting democrat with abortion and homosexual marriage. All one gets back is the must feeble rationalization. In fact the catholic community, there in their wonderful churches built from community wealth, think that capitalism, individual striving and success are somehow evil.

To be openly conservative in the Catholic community currently one has to accept a certain second class status. Open, unapologetic Marxists can pipe away in study group and any sort of Parish outreach organization. Woe betide you should you call them out on their Marxism.

If you think I am wrong, trying going to any parish any Sunday in any Blue city.

I have tried for decades to find a Conservative parish in the several large metropolitan areas, including New York, DC, SF, LA, Chicago and Philadelphia. I have yet to find one.

OL says that they are "on the brink". They are well past that or they would not do something as outrageous as this. They know what you do not: that they have the catholic vote wrapped up so far as the rank and file go.

The average catholic, practicing or no, is a Democrat, and he believes all the nonsense about the GOP that is spewed by the MSM. The church seems more full of losers seeking solace or their material condition than they do of strong and vital Catholics searching for God. The bizarre prostrations to poverty, ignorance and mediocrity we see about in the churches of the major Confessions is chilling. Once this was not so.

This is a nation of brainwashed idiots who have not the faintest clue what is happening, or if they do then they agree with it and cheer it on. The Democrats know this for these are their creatures and creations
Decades of Marxist brainwashing has taken its toll on the American mind, heart and soul. We are not the free and vital people we once were. American Catholicism is to what it once were.

Stop kidding yourselves: this issue will not cause Catholics to vote against the Democrats in any meaningful numbers.

Obama is polling even with the GOP candidates. This should tell you all you need know about the American electorate.

They are drooling, grasping imbeciles.

Four more years of Obama is more than likely.
There will be no conservative revolution. If ever there was a time for it, it would be now, but it has already been derail. "The people" believe what they are told to believe.

If this were not true the Democrats Could not preach there bizarre and inverted values. They would be no disciples for their false faith. But this is not so.

That a nation party can openly and straightforwardly stand behind a platform of Abortion, Sodomy, Communism, Economic destruction, suicidal energy policy, willfully destructive economic and defense policies and Racial Preference, and not be yanked off the national stage should show you that America has already gone far down the sewer.

Americas cannot see their own self interest or that of their country when they are being destroyed right in their faces.

squaredance

^American Catholicism is NOT what it once WAS.

Sandy Daze

Ooh-rah Rick, Ooh-Rah.

ABO~OMG,
Sandy

Ignatz

--The glass is half full not half empty.--

I understand the optimist/pessimist intent of this metaphor but isn't the sensible outlook that any such glass is simultaneously half empty and half full?

mockmook

Gmax,

Thanks for the game report (I watched it online). What is your link to Heather?

Rocco

In 1974, my local church, the Immaculate Conception Church in Marlboro MA refused to baptize a baby because the baby's mother was a Bill Baird supporter. The archdiocese defended the two priests saying that if a parent holds views contrary to church rules, the priest must make certain the baby will be raised according to those rules.

The baptism was ultimately performed on the front steps of the locked church by a Rev. Joseph O'Rourke, director of Catholics for Free Choice.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1338&dat=19740821&id=ep5YAAAAIBAJ&sjid=g_gDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2317,1309076

Ignatz

--There's no source of OPM in the world to fuel further damage. The last exit to utopia dumped out a quarter mile beyond the precipice.--

That's where my optimism springs from; either the battleship of the welfare state is turned around voluntarily, or it sails into a mine field of bankruptcy and ends up, take your pick, sunk, capsized, partially capsized, run aground or listing severely. Whatever you call it, one way or another the SS Dependency is going to be holed well below the Plimsoll line, with the bulkheads open and the bilge pumps dead.

SWarren

Sandy,
I agree the letter helps and I think Jenkins is feeling mighty red-faced.
From Sarah Palin's Facebook:

Consider Catholicism’s most prominent academic leader, the Rev. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame. Jenkins took a serious risk in sponsoring Obama’s 2009 honorary degree and commencement address — which promised a “sensible” approach to the conscience clause. Jenkins now complains, “This is not the kind of ‘sensible’ approach the president had in mind when he spoke here.”

Obama has made Jenkins — and other progressive Catholic allies — look easily duped.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150526762153435

Rocco

*the priest must make certain the baby will be raised according to those church rules.* (must proofread)

Gmax

mockmock

BFF? LOL

My daughter and Heather were teammates, roommates and Co Captains at the dynasty knowns as UNC Chapel Hill. One of their fellow teammates Ashlyn Harris came by at halftime and gave me a big hug. It was almost enough to make the cold go away, for a moment!

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

So what should we non-leftwing non-marxists do, Squaredance? Throw up our hands and quit advocating for the liberty and freedom promised by our Founding Documents?

How about some solutions to the intractable problems you so ably describe?

Gmax

Joseph ORourke was excommunicated for this bit of cheap theatrics but mostly for his defiance of his superiors directives and his heresy.

squaredance

Wishful thinking, Mr. Ballard.
These dolts are ineducable, and the imbecility is not limited to the "something for nothing" crowd. Not at all.

We saw this in the terms of GWB. Here he merely defended the nation after the WTC was knocked down! Did a rather goods job of it too, all things considered.

He certainly was not the buffoon he was made out to be. Yet the nation in the end bought the propaganda and lies spewed day and night by the Democrats over the course of his term. a level of propaganda not seen in the West since Hitler. It far surpassed anything that we saw during the Vietnam period or the Reagan years

Moreover, the nation had the lesson of Vietnam and the Reagan to take into account when they saw this relentless barrage of lies. We should have known better.

But what did we see since: '06 and '08? Pelosi? Obama? Somehow GWB is to blame in the national "mind" (and I use the term lightly). The mess of the recession was not caused by the Democrats openly corrupt and Marxist redistributionist schemes and the Democrat insiders' hog trough of Fannie and Freddie. Oh no, it was those "greedy capitalists" and the "bankster" pursuing "inequality", don't you know, and, in exact opposition to reality no less, those greedy bankster are a bunch of heartless Republicans.

Corzine walks free; Rahm, after ripping of the taxpayer for $18 million by just showing up at Fannie for a few weeks and then is elected Mayor of Chicago. Nary a peep out of "the people" over this, in case you did not notice. When have we seen such open, unapologetic corruption? When have we seen such an openly corrupt political calls arrogant mocking us with their unasailability? They were not even this open about it during the New deal.

Mr. Ballard, we have the AG of the USA running guns to Mexico and then just mocking the congress about it. It is not even an election issue so far as the candidates go. No hue and cry from the electorate here.

It is not merely a question of "something for nothing". The rot is much deeper than that.

No, the nation has lost all it bearings: lost its moral, intellectual and spiritual foundations. We as a nation have allowed it happen. We have been unmanned, out-thought and out-maneuver to by the worst sort of people imaginable and the most feeble of villains: Corrupt machine politicians, their clients and apparatchiks. mindless "educators" and academics and some media hacks in NYC and Hollywood. This did not happen yesterday.

It is deeply shameful and degrading.

"Post gratitude education", indeed. These fools could not get through a real grammar school.

The nation is chock full of them.

Sandy Daze

SWarren,

Thank you. I am less charitable than SP, whom I believe was being very generous and as well not violating more generally the 11th Commandment in her comment. (i.e. I don't think Jenkin's is a R, but even Voldemort is not directly criticized by SP, only his policies.)
In my view, if Jenkins was so easily duped, he would not have been smart enough to achieve selection and leadership as ND's President. Thus, I conclude he must be a true believer.
I'd like to be proved wrong and will accept penance if I am.

OMG~ABO,
Sandy

mockmook

My daughter and Heather were teammates, roommates and Co Captains at the dynasty knowns as UNC Chapel Hill.

Posted by: Gmax | February 12, 2012 at 03:04 PM

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Dang, didn't know I was adressing royalty ;)

From interviews of Heather, she seems like a really sweet kid (most of the USA girls seem pretty grounded).

BTW, do you have any inside info on how to watch the Algarve Cup online? :)

Benjamin Franklin

"Hate to break it to it to you, but the Catholics will still vote Democrat in the end."

Thank God, for the Jesuits...........

Gmax

Yeah get a big screen or you will suffer from terminal squintitis!

Cecil Turner

The claim that the Catholic vote goes exclusively to Democrats is simply wrong. Catholics voted for the winner in 75% of the electons in the last 60 years. (In the four they missed, the largest split was 52-48.)

To the degree this dustup alienates Catholic voters, it's a political disaster for Dems. They're counting on the voters' differences with the Church on contraception, but it's hard for me to see how they are going to win many over, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to find they alienated quite a few.

Sandy Daze

Squaredance,

Wish you'd be a bit more explicit in your thoughts, letting me/us know what you really believe.

There's the solution of '61 at hand I suppose. Bezemov told us how the deal was done, and Panarin identifies some scenarios even if his timeline was too optimistic (pessimistic? guess that depends on where one stands).

I am comforted by this, this and this.

Where you gonna go? I don't know.

Stay and Fight, then. Fight, fight and fight with every breath. Do not go quietly into that good night.

Take good care,
OMG~ABO,
Sandy

mockmook

Yeah get a big screen or you will suffer from terminal squintitis!

Posted by: Gmax | February 12, 2012 at 03:25 PM

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No, no, no, what website can I watch it online? But, you probably knew what I was asking...I know, your answer is "Buy a plane ticket", right? :)

Gmax

Yes Portugal should be fine at that time of year, and should the Euro continue to drop in value maybe even a bargain. I have no idea who will carry the Cup, but it seems that someone does every time. Sorry for the tongue in cheek reply could not resist...

hit and run

I am always proud to recollect my experience watching JMax anchor the Tar Heels to an 8-1 victory over High Point University in 2007 on the UNC campus.

And even better,getting princess hit and run to meet JMax after the game. Poor princess was overwhelmed at the prospect of meeting a star to the point of burying her face in my jacket,but she still talks about the game and meeting JMax to this day.

Extraneus

If not, my 1108 stands !

Hey Sandy, no sweat, I'm proud to be on the same side as you. Thanks for the Panarin link. Never heard of the guy.

pagar

"And yet they are on the brink of total victory of their progressive dreams."

"http://agapemovement.com/leading-union-political-campaign-contributors"

Our national leftist takeover has been funded by the American TAXPAYER.

"Leading Union Political Campaign Contributors
1990-2010

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
$ 40,281,900 Democrats
$ 547,700 Republicans

Every penny of the money turned over to the Democrats by the American Fed of State, County, and Municipal Employees came from the American Taxpayer.

SWarren

Meanwhile back to the thread topic,

"As goes Maine, so goes CPAC - let's have the traditional Mitt-mentum open thread. A New England guy winning in New England - breakthrough stuff."

Heh,I love TM's snark.

Contrary to Mitt-mentum, this PPP poll:

February 11,2012

Rick Santorum has opened up a wide lead in PPP's newest national poll. He's at 38% to 23% for Mitt Romney, 17% for Newt Gingrich, and 13% for Ron Paul.

Part of the reason for Santorum's surge is his own high level of popularity. 64% of voters see him favorably to only 22% with a negative one. But the other, and maybe more important, reason is that Republicans are significantly souring on both Romney and Gingrich. Romney's favorability is barely above water at 44/43, representing a 23 point net decline from our December national poll when he was +24 (55/31). Gingrich has fallen even further. A 44% plurality of GOP voters now hold a negative opinion of him to only 42% with a positive one. That's a 34 point drop from 2 months ago when he was at +32 (60/28).

Santorum is now completely dominating with several key segments of the electorate, especially the most right leaning parts of the party. With those describing themselves as 'very conservative,' he's now winning a majority of voters at 53% to 20% for Gingrich and 15% for Romney. Santorum gets a majority with Tea Party voters as well at 51% to 24% for Gingrich and 12% for Romney. And with Evangelicals he falls just short of a majority with 45% to 21% for Gingrich and 18% for Romney.


Old Lurker

Speaking of OPM, I see in the WSJ that the Dem budget includes a change in the rules for taxing IRAs at death. Old rules were that the named beneficiaries would spread the inherited IRA over the beneficary's expected life span, but the new rule requires it be taken into taxable income over five years regardless of the age of the recipient.

Regardless of the right or wrong, that amounts to a significant increase in the PV of the taxation of that form of savings, and that leads inevitably to less of that form of savings.

centralcal

Hey everybody - it is MockMOOK, NOT MockMOCK.

sheesh!

Gmax

Knock knock

Whos there?

et cetera

Extraneus

that leads inevitably to less of that form of savings.

And a boon for the life insurance industry, I would think.

centralcal

lol, Gmax! I really was feeling sorry for poor MM - you all making a mockery of his name. But, now that you put it like that...

Ignatz

--And a boon for the life insurance industry, I would think.--

Thank you, Ex.
That comment (presumably) immediately changed the ad on my left margin from that unspeakable clown in FL to a life insurance one.

Extraneus

Funny, I don't get any butt ads after the butt pics.

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