Memeorandum


Powered by TypePad

« Wake Up And Smell The (Free!) Coffee | Main | Ninety Percent Of This Process Is Half Mental »

March 12, 2012

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451b2aa69e2016302c26987970d

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Fish Goes Foul With Obama-Free Double Standards:

Comments

JeffC

they already know what a SCFOAMF is so they'll understand ...

Danube of Thought

The problem with Fish's analysis is that none of Rush's critics is saying "he should be condemned for falsely calling a woman a slut because he's on the wrong side." They are saying "he should be condemned for falsely calling a woman a slut." They don't say that about Maher. They impose one standard on Rush and a different one on Maher.

If they were to say "conservatives should not insult women, but it's OK for liberals," that would be appliyng a single standard. But that's not what they're saying.

lyle

their dad is basically a poser

Basically?

Entre nous: What does SCFOAMF mean, if I may? Thanx

Gus

Maybe Rush should have just said that Fluke was getting banged by Alex Rodriguez. Better yet, Opies 2 daughters Malia and Sasha were both doing Alex Rodriguez.

It's perfectly ok when the comment is made by A LIBTARD.

Dave (in MA)

I still want to know why that gap-toothed douche only (belatedly) apologized to Palin, but there was no apology to A-Rod for joking that he rapes little girls.

Janet

I can hardly understand that Fish article. Libs speak such gobbledygook....like the Cornell West example that Extraneus posted on the other thread -

"Take the Cornell West, for example.

Professor West attributes most of the black community's problems to "existential angst derive[d] from the lived experience of ontological wounds and emotional scars inflicted by white supremacist beliefs and images permeating U.S. society and culture.""
We need a brave child to point & yell, "That guy doesn't make sense!"

Jack is Back!

And these are the same people who have absolutely no problem with trying to usurp the constitutional protection of religious liberty for their own nefarious purposes. We.Are.So.Screwed.

ABO - 2012. It can't come soon enough. I hope every head on the west side of Manhattan explodes.

Rick Ballard

"I can hardly understand that Fish article."

Four legs good, two legs bad. (vide Foucalt, Derrida, Rawls, Hobsbawm, Eco, Zinn, ad infernum)

Gus

Janet, Cornell West is saying.

IT'S WHITEYS FAULT.

lyle

but there was no apology to A-Rod for joking that he rapes little girls.

I know. His rep took enough of a hit when he was banging Madonna.

Clarice

Perfecto,TM.

And then he could explain how Karen Tumulty and the WaPo lie to suggest that the mandate/contraception fight hasn't hurt their dad with women voters.http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/washington-post-poll-contradicts-washington-post-narrative-women-voters_633469.html?page=2

Jack is Back!

Dave(in MA),

It got its start and rep at Ace, right? (SCoaMF)

Gus

After banging Madonna, A-Rod needed steroids.

Or Madonna did.

lyle

Got it, Dave.

lyle

Is this the same Fish who doesn't need a bicycle?

Mad Jack

I don't necessarily disagree with the Fish premise if he would apply the standard to the West and democracy vs theocracies, dictators, and totalitarian regimes. The problem is that they, liberals/Dems like Fish, view conservatives/Republicans the same way we on the "right" view totalitarians/dictarors/theocracies.

Clarice

Translation of this: "Professor West attributes most of the black community's problems to "existential angst derive[d] from the lived experience of ontological wounds and emotional scars inflicted by white supremacist beliefs and images permeating U.S. society and culture.""
Black people are crazy because of the oppressiveness of white's and their culture.

See, the Genet play "TheBlacks" to see how wacky this is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Genet

rse

LUN is apparently the sort of program Yale pays Stanley to do these days along with intercepting the next generation of movers and shakers.

And jane-out in the hinterlands I stopped to get Ketel One for penne a la vodka for dinner. But they had Tito's so I got that in your honor.

Should I call it penne a la vodka Sturbridge?

I can also guarantee you from that passage that Fish is not using the definition of democracy any of us would go along with.

Patrick R. Sullivan

At the end Fish admits he's simply a tribalist; 'I can live with that.'

Which should disqualify him from also claiming to be a scholar. I can live with that.

Comanche Voter

I'm glad our host read Maguire so I didn't have to. You can smell the rotten "Fish" from here.

Why doesn't he simply say "It's shirts and skins, and the shirts can do no wrong, and the skins can do no right."

Of course the concepts of "right" and "wrong" involve normative concept and a good relativist like Fish would be uncomfortable using those terms.

Ignatz

--Stanley Fish, in "Two Cheers for Double Standards", explains why bashing Rush Limbaugh and giving Ed Schultz and Bill Maher a pass may not actually represent a double standard.--

Of course it would still represent a double standard. Any time you apply different standards to identical conduct for whatever reason it is by definition a double standard.
He would merely be claiming it is a justified one.

Jack is Back!

You know what there are more important issues out there, like the poor people in Dayton that will have to put up with this stupid BS. Ohio is pretty important - another indicator this guy is in big trouble.

AliceH

If they were to say "conservatives should not insult women, but it's OK for liberals," that would be appliyng a single standard. But that's not what they're saying.

They don't HAVE to say it - it's one of two "givens" that don't require proofs:
1) conservatives should not x but it's Okay for liberals;
2) conservatives should but Liberals don't have to.

NK

Ig @6:13--

now you're confusing Stanley Fish with logic. The Fish and logic don't even have a passing acquaintance.

daddy

What qualifies as courage from a Democrat:

‘No comment’: Democrat refuses to support Holder amid resignation calls

"Oklahoma Democratic Rep. Dan Boren won’t say if he supports Attorney General Eric Holder amid a surge in the number of House members who have demanded Holder’s resign over Operation Fast and Furious."

Progress of a sort.

daddy

Love the second comment at TM's NYTime's Fish link:

"How can I get a job writing stuff like this?"

Ha.

Ignatz

--JiB: You're saying Matt Blunt, my former governor was Frederick's babysitter? (who is Frederick?).--

Alice,
Master Frederick is JiB's precocious son.

Ignatz

Wrong frickin thread.

Rocco

Ladies, forget those fancy cowgirl boots, these are much sexier. The perfect shoes to go with those pistolas Clarice! Via Dave Barry.

Janet

"How can I get a job writing stuff like this?"

Hahahaha...oh my goodness, that is too funny!

matt

hmmm....one of Obama's pet economists is still saying labor markets are a shambles.....LUN

Danube of Thought

So Cameron is going to see Western Kentucky play Mississippi Valley State in a first-round game in Dayton, Ohio. Will the stands be full?

Clarice

Hooray for Palywood--again:
Legal insurrection:
It just never stops, as reported by Israel Matzav, as this photo is going viral via Twitter but the child was hurt in an accident several years ago, not killed by Israelis, and for the kicker, it was circulated by a U.N. employee:

AliceH

Wow - just read the link and it's worse than I expected. Just about every example is completely wrong and obviously flawed.

I wonder if he's ever given more than passing thought to the concept "hate the sin, not the sinner".

(Also, I'm sorry I started to read the comments. They are even less related to coherent thought than the article - except for the one thoughtfully posted by someone already.)

Captain Hate

So Cameron is going to see Western Kentucky play Mississippi Valley State in a first-round game in Dayton, Ohio. Will the stands be full?

I doubt it; and I really dislike this new-found habit of the MFM mavens (not you, DoT) to call a play-in game a first round game. There is one game played per region which doesn't even come close to be what should be considered a "round". It's like when 2 baseball teams are tied for the post-season and they have a one game playoff which is what they call it.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

I didn't see the new thread so I posted this on the last thread which appears to be dying.

HB agent J.

After my b'day weekend, I just had a chance to read yesterday's Clarice's Pieces. It sure amplifies the effect of the steady drip begun by Breitbart's Bell clip last week.

No one should any longer have reasonable doubt that Bell, Wright, Ayers, FM and Danny Davis, Barack Obama Sr., and other marxists form the basis for Obama's increasingly leftist policies.

You only need to read both ElJefe books; Listen to his pre-2006 speeches and recorded interviews; Review his administration's major administration policies like healthcare, and the policies of his Justice Department, DOE, DHHS, and State Department; look who he appoints as czars and recess appointments.

I think the evidence is becoming overwhelming.

With respect TK, I also think this information is far more troubling to the country's welfare than the issue of ElJefe's eligibility to be President.

But I am still uncertain how it should be raised in this campaign.

MarkO

Friends and neighbors. The good professor Fish has given us something we can ponder in connection with everything Brother Obama says about taxes. Let me quote the prof:
“Fair” is a weak virtue; it is not even a virtue at all because it insists on a withdrawal from moral judgment.
I plan to quote him extensively when Obama complains that I have not paid my “fair” share of taxes. It is a weak virtue to pay taxes. I agree.

Ignatz

OT, but any google users should check out the Bing homepage today. Pretty cute.

Ignatz

I'm afraid you're falling into his trap there MarkO.
With Hope and Change we will be taxed based on our voting habits. It won't be fair but it will be just. And under no circumstances could it be construed as a double standard.

Danube of Thought

to call a play-in game a first round game

My bad--forgot.

Sixty-five percent of all teams making the Final Four in the past 36 years have been 1 or 2 seeds. Lowest seed ever to win was Villanova at 8. I know Arizona won as a 4. I thought 32 teams was just about right, striking the balance between interest in the regular season and the tournament. As it is now, no one cares about regular season games, and not very much about the conference tournaments. E.g., Kentucky sleepwalks through a loss to Vanderbilt in the SEC Championship game yesterday and is still a no. 1 seed.

narciso

Well I think the DOJ appointments and decisions, should be brought up with this background as the aperitif

Extraneus

Fish seems butt-hurt about Alinsky's fourth.

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

Pass the Desitin ointment.

centralcal

I like how their pictures (already pretty amazing) now have movement, Iggy.

Really cute.

MarkO

Fish is so slippery. I prefer a different Fish.

Captain Hate

That Arizona team was really something in the way I kept waiting for them to get clocked by higher seeds and they just kept getting better. I didn't even like them that much compared to the Steve Kerr/Sean Elliot/Kenny Lofton bunch who fell short of the prize.

Completely agree with how the regular season and tourney get short shrifted by the big dance. Only Michigan State seemed to benefit from winning its tourney.

narciso

I remember first coming across Fish when I was writing a paper on Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' in high school, when deconstructionism was the rage, meaning no actual relevance to the story. I kept hearing
about him, and 'Skip' Gates, and West and Cornel West, in the New Criterion,

pagar

"refuses to support Holder"

Daddy, PJ Media has the latest Holder:

http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2012/03/12/eric-holder-supports-the-al-qaeda-vote/

Meanwhile they have this out of Texas:

"Video: Texas Counties Have No Idea if Illegal Aliens are Voting".

LUN

With all the votes Holder will be able to deliver, there is no way the Obama regime lets him be tossed under the bus, IMO.

Ignatz

If anyone needs more from Steve Schmidt to really despise the guy a little more.

narciso

I'm kind of surprised, that Wallace and Schmidt, didn't claim, they were in fear
she would hunt them down and skin them like moose, that was practically the only allegation let unstated by that pot bellied weasel, of course the likes of Hollowpoint
would believe it, implicitly, in the LUN

centralcal

!@#$% Typepad is eating my comments right before my eyes.

centralcal

Twice I posted that Soledad O'Brien's ratings are circling the toilet bowl and twice, they went *poof*

Am afraid to link or past my pull quote - but basically she is in last place at the bottom of the sewer.

Clarice

Looks like a couple of people are getting what's "fair".

Captain Hate

Hollowhead got dragged around pretty badly by Ol' Dirty Bastard for his Schmidt-esque fantasies. I wonder what happened to Undead States, not that I'm complaining at all; just hoping it was something extremely violent.

I think somebody there nailed it well that Schmidt is angling for the "thoughtful Repub" seat on the gabfests to rotate with Sully, Frum, Brooks and Scarblowhard.

Extraneus

She should have done it, narc.

Dave (in MA)

Doesn't the Cat in the Hat count?

RichatUF

hat pot bellied weasel

LOL.

Captain Hate

Yes, sorry I left him out, Dave.

Ignatz

--Hollowhead got dragged around pretty badly by Ol' Dirty Bastard for his Schmidt-esque fantasies. I wonder what happened to Undead States, not that I'm complaining at all; just hoping it was something extremely violent.--

Looked at that one sideways even and couldn't break the code.

Ignatz

--!@#$% Typepad is eating my comments right before my eyes.--

Tell me about it, cc.
Had six nice cheesecake links set up on that last thread and they vamoosed into the ether. Had to settle for a mere three.

Threadkiller

Townhall does not like the scrubbing of web pages!!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/03/10/wikipedia_editing_war_erupts_over_obamas_connection_to_radical_derrick_bell

Well... Unless they are doing the scrubbing.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/townhall-yanks-column-on-arpaios-findings/

Free press always costs something.

narciso

ODB is a pro Palin commenter, WODS is a long time Palin hater, both at AOS. everyone else provides the Rosetta, 'I'm doing my part'

Boatbuilder

Hey CH--Narciso is perfectly comprehensible Today and I can't figure out what you are talking about. What gives?

Rick Ballard

"But I am still uncertain how it should be raised in this campaign."

Jim Rhoads,

I don't see it as an issue to be raised. It, like TK's favorite, is now background confirmation of the correct decision by the Muddle to move away from abject failure. The Muddle had its collective fingers in its ears about this in its initial infatuation with the Dope with Hope. The information was certainly available.

Now Hope is gone and the Muddle is going to see off the Dope in November and there is nothing in the world that the Dope and his MFM can do about it.

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

But I am still uncertain how it should be raised in this campaign.

I think the best thing about this information is that it is predictive. If you look at Obama in this context you can pretty much know where he is headed, which may make it easier to head him off.

RSE,

Honest question that I hope doesn't piss you off: Why don't you capitalize women's names?

Gmax

The war on women just happened when Zero was flailing around? This bs from the Shrew Hill is unbelievable but funny as hell. Nothing these bozos do comes out right or competent or sane! I am wondering how many of them can fit in that car at the circus...

Boatbuilder

One of the more idiotic aspects of the whole Fluke kerfluffle (hat tip Taranto) is since when did our great liberated, cool, anything-goes, in-your face liberal culture suddenly get the vapors because someone called a 30-year old political activist a slut. I am not in favor of such language in public discourse, but I'm pretty sure I was shouted down a long, long time ago. Have any of these people watched any prime-time TV lately? Fish just proves the point--this is feigned, or purely bigoted (if real) partisan-fueled outrage.

narciso

Yes, Hillary having been a bystander to Sharia Spring, has another custom rant, on the 'War on Women'. Vicious and ignorant, and supposedly among the most admired,

sbw

you will not be displaying a double standard; you will be affirming a single standard, and moreover it will be a moral one

I wondered what someone tied into a pretzel would look like.

The ass doesn't know moral from toast.

Extraneus

I hope every head on the west side of Manhattan explodes.

I don't think that's going to happen JiB. If Romney wins, the hive will shift into destruction mode, but they won't be lying in bed waiting for a call back from their therapists the next morning, like they would have if Palin would have gone for it. (I still maintain that she would have been kicking Obama's ass right now. Energy and gas prices? Crony capitalism? CRT? The list is long, and a real warrior would be hammering him mercilessly. Today, not next month or later in the year.)

Neo

The supervisory stress scenario for CCAR 2012, which was designed in November 2011, depicts a severe recession in the United States, including a peak unemployment rate of 13 percent, a 50 percent drop in equity prices, and a 21 percent decline in housing prices. The supervisory stress scenario is not the Federal Reserve's forecast for the economy, but was designed to represent an outcome that, while unlikely, may occur if the U.S economy were to experience a deep recession at the same time that economic activity in other major economies contracted significantly.

jimmyk

This was why Obama infantilized Fluke--that way the "standard" is that you can't talk that way to a "student" (Sasha and Malia are students), implying that it's ok to talk that way about, for example, a 44-year-old VP candidate.

I hope every head on the west side of Manhattan explodes.

Wait a minute....

Captain Hate

Sorry Iggy and BB, I was doing some AoS-speak.

maryrose

Ext:
I beg to differ. Palin has run against Obama on McCain's ticket. Better to put a fresh face against Odummy because in the end this election is all about Obama's failures as President. He's responsible for sending a brain-damaged soldier back into the field in Afghanistan. October surprise when Obama sees he is behind will be to end the Afghan war early to try and grab some last minute Independent votes which he is bleeding right now.It won't be enough. Real people don't have jobs and unemployment is much higher than 8.3%

Captain Hate

Speaking of blithering idiots, 14;59 my dear

Dear God; she probably single handedly has temporarily lowered the mean IQ in Austin.

narciso

So 'SchWallace's' shot for redemption, really gets on my nerves, I challenged the review that washed up in the fishwrap, with a Breitbart link. These were all lies furnished
to Ben Smith, who went after Cain with a meat cleaver, this season, Bachmann did self inflict herself, but there was some spurious
stuff out there, and we know how other members of the Journolist have gone after Newt.

Danube of Thought

Guy Benson at Townhall:

"President Obama's approval rating has hit the lowest level ever in CBS News polling, according to the latest CBS News/New York Times survey. The drop may be partially attributable to rising gas prices.  Just 41 percent of Americans approve of the job Mr. Obama is doing as president, according to the poll, conducted from March 7 to 11. Another 47 percent disapprove of his performance, up from 41 percent last month. Mr. Obama's approval rating was 50 percent last month."

Is this correct?

rse

No Jane it doesn't bother me to admit I cannot type. Nothing automatic about it. I have mentioned I hunt and peck.

These days I come on briefly as a diversion while I have to listen to a bomb ticking. So you basically get a somewhat distracted commenter who enjoys chatting who is terrible at getting a keyboard to communicate easily.

Boatbuilder

Not to worry, Captain: Narciso explained it for us. (And if that doesn't set you straight, nothing will).

PaulL

If it's in quotes, it's correct.

AliceH

DoT: that is an accurate summary of the poll. Whether it's correct, or "lowest ever", I have not been able to determine -- they make finding the actual poll and trends very complicated.

Link to NYT story LUN

narciso

So the Mary McCarthy treatment of Lillian Hellman, 'everything is a lie, including
'the & and' seems more true than expected;

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/Danny%20Strong%20Ignore%20Game%20Change%20Reviewers%20Questions

Jane

RSE,

You type very well. The only thing I see you never cap are women's names. I've noticed that since you arrived. I've been dying to know why, but I didn't want to offend you.

No biggie.

narciso

And tomorrow is the primary for Spencer Bacchus the slimy weasel who rolled over for
the GSEs, so naturally the party promoted him to leadership,

rse

Capping anything for me stops the flow. You and Clarice (I actually stopped and redid the cap) comment daily regularly so I do not feel I need to yell out.

Jane-I have composed an intl fundamental expose that has an indisputable factual basis. I have to defend my position.

I am just sad that my ineptness with a keyboard led anyone to feel disrespected.

Jane

Part 2 of WS insider is up. It's very interesting.

sbw

rse, we don't notice. Don't you dwell on it. No caps was good enough for Edward Estlin Cummings.

sbw

Yes, but in the pretzel world, there are bomb throwers and bomb throwers and amongst bomb throwers, Ayers was a bomb thrower.

Rick Ballard

DoT,

Here's the actual poll. The sample split is 26R 30D 35I 9 Don't Know.

The 41 low is for Obama and it's found on page 1.

MarkO

I had to read about the “natural born,” so, as Prof Fish might have once said, “fair is fair.”

“[T]hree prominent septuagenarian feminists--Jane Fonda, Robin Morgan and Gloria Steinem, co-founders of the Women's Media Center--joined forces over the weekend to demand the suppression of speech they dislike."

Three's company? I'm still against speech restrictions.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304537904577277223750295642.html?KEYWORDS=best+of+the+web+today

Ms. Trish

DoT at 6:42...

Per today's local paper, tomorrow night's game, with Obama and Cameron in attendance, is not yet sold out. I also heard Obama will be interviewed by CBS at half-time.

MarkO

Will Cameron be indoors?

Jane

Yeah, don't worry about it. I thought it was odd because it is just women and that bugs me so I thought I would ask. As I said, it wasn't my intent to offend you.

narciso

Truth be told, Ayers wasn't a very effective figure at his chosen vocation, compared to Guevara, Marighela, even Savinkov if one goes
European angle,

Yes they have been hounding the right, as far back as Kirkpatrick in the early 80s, that is their m.o., they opposed 'Hillary the movie
(the subject of Citizens United) yet they
swoon over Fahrenheit 451 and the production
that will remain anonymous.

Agent J

I to posted at the end of the other thread, as Jim Rhoads had done.

Agent J would like to thank each and everyone of you for your thoughts and wish's. Today is the first "birthday" that I have spent alone for at least the last 50 years, it has not been easy.

Oh yes I have been working outside, doing the many things that have been neglected for the past few years..It has been particular enjoyable to stand on the step above the OSHA warning step, while trimming trees with a chain saw..

Again thanks for the well wish's.

narciso

You're welcome Agent J, I don't know if this charyt has come up before.


http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/52680

The comments to this entry are closed.

Amazon

  • Lee Child, Kindle short story
  • Lee Child
  • Gary Taubes

Traffic

Wilson/Plame