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Ignatz

The question as always is 'are we on a slippery slope or are we not?'
To dismiss that concern under Bush or Barry doesn't seem too wise to me.

NK

BUSH-HITLER!!!!

Dave (in MA)

My coworker who used to have an AshKKKroft calendar hanging in his office doesn't have anything similar for Holder. Strange.

NK

Dave-- all Dems are Slags; all Progs are fascists.. those are just facts.

Captain Hate

My coworker who used to have an AshKKKroft calendar

As to be contrasted with Robert Byrd, who was actually a member and reached some advanced level in their hierarchy and had Slick excuse that at his funeral? What exactly did Ashcroft do to deserve that calendar? I've had it with the ignorance of libs.

How much do libs hate George Zimmerman now for not being white?

Ignatz

Does anyone here have a problem with the Feds keeping a data base of info for five years on citizens who are suspected of no wrongdoing?

Clarice

Serves the Administration right. They believed the NYT original account==Remember? "Sure he's white now".
This whole thing sounds like Tom Wolfe again.

centralcal

O/T, but I am pleasantly surprised for once at these French students:

An English teacher sparked outrage across France today after calling for her pupils to observe a minute’s silence for Toulouse serial killer Mohammed Merah.

In disturbing scenes at Gustave Flaubert High School in Rouen, Normandy, Lorraine Collin, 56, described the 23-year-old who murdered seven including three children as himself being the ‘victim of an unhappy childhood’.

This prompted up to 15 pupils aged between 17 and 18 to storm out of their classroom and report Ms Collin to their headmaster.

NK

Clarice-- I guess you missed the whole Tawana Brawley, Bernie Goetz, Crown Heights, Cent Park Jogger, Freddy's Shoemart etc etc race scams that SHarpton/NYT ran up here. So far, this Zimerman thing is quite tame in comparison-- hardly a Bonfire of Vanities... but THE DAY IS YOUNG!!

Frau Bettlaken

Capt.- Bent Willie, I paraphrase, said Byrd was forced to buy sheets by the gross and attain grand kleagledom because it was the *only* way to get elected to do the good work of the Democrats. The philosophy lives on in the Moulitsas "Whatever it takes" motto.

Frau Bettlaken

Yes, Iggy, it does. It's bad enough the grocery stores know which peanut butter I buy. I don't think *they* will haul me off for hanging out on JOM.

This is from Townhall:

Jack is Back!

OT: but timely since today marks the 2nd anniversary of ObamaCare.

Lt. Col. West tweets

"Try and figure out the Obamacare flowchart. Warning: This may cause you to lose your lunch"

NK

CentralC- 5 years ago on a school trip to Japan, I asked a fellow parent who is Flemish by birth and a Dutch citizen about the Muslims in Western Europe. I took a risk and said as best I could tell, the Dutch/Belgians would either 'submit' to 2nd class citizenship to a Muslim majority-- or they'd have to kick millions of Muslims out of Europe. She shrugged her shoulders but didn't disagree... so I asked her which would it be. Her expression turned very serious, and she said the Dutch will kick out the muslims or kill them first. Her dark answer was quite shocking, and a bit scary.

Frau Bettlaken

Thank goodness the young (pallid) kid, who was set on fire by the two (Holder's people) fellow students, survived or Pres.Fore! would have to take important time out to comment on it.
/s


Gus

NK, Anne Frank could not be reached for comment.

centralcal

Interesting, NK, but why did you find her answer "a bit scary?"

Janet

Back from the Stand Up For Religious Freedom rally in DC. Maybe 500 people there. Had Star Parker speak & Lila Rose.
Parker's speech was really good (if it comes on Youtube later). Beautiful day....not enough people.

*thank you for my Metro fare, Jane!

NK

Ig-- governmentdata mining is an issue for everyone. That said, don't ever look into what Google or Apple have on you.

NK

CC-- I don't favor racial/religous civil wars.

Jack is Back!

NK,

Being married to a Fleming and having worked and traveled extensively in the Netherlands and other low countries, I don't see that ladies prophecy happening. They are stuck with what they wrought = unstainable immigration and integration. Won't happen the way she says because the muzzies are become more and more politically strong in both Belgium and Holland. In fact, all the parties trying to stem the flow are considered hate groups and are always under EU Human Rights sanctions.

We (my wife and I) wish it was different but it isn't even though there is now the recognition of the problem that should have been realized years ago. Time has run out.

Porchlight

CC-- I don't favor racial/religous civil wars.

NK, I don't think anyone "favors" them. The question is, is submission/surrender preferable?

If it helps, you could look at it as refusal to submit to tyranny of any stripe.

NK

JiB-- that was my guess even 5 years ago. One women's opinion is to the contrary. It's a disater either way. tragic.

centralcal

Understand, NK, but you gave her two choices in your question - basically submit as 2nd class citizen, or kick them out.

Granted, she added a third choice. How on earth would they "kick them out" and still avoid a racial/religious civil war?

Porchlight

Janet,

I just got back from the same rally. I estimated about 200-250. Pretty good for dinky little lib Austin. A spectacularly beautiful day certainly didn't hurt turnout.

A friend of a friend posted a pic of a large group of women and children to FB and wryly captioned it "Hanging with the women haters."

NK

CC-- check JiB's more personal view above.

Jack is Back!

BTW, that washed up womanizer from Isleworth and Jupiter, a guy named Woods is 7 under going into the 8th hole at Bay HIll, just 2 off the lead. I wonder if MarkO is watching?

His 2nd into the par 5 sixth was a 240 laser to about 12 feet. A true thing of beauty even for a so-so golfer.

Frederick and I are going tomorrow. Clubhouse Passes, Baby!

NK

JiB-- hasn't Woods won at Bay Hill like 6 times?

matt

the data mining done by the advertising industry is just as scary. They want to know if you like the new gay looking Count Chocula, if the new Coke can will sell an extra billion units, and how often you change your underwear.

Basically, if you're using the internet you already have little privacy.They want to hunt you down and get inside your head to seel you, to get you to vote their way, etc....

Today it is the unsubtle effort of the state to control us all despite the fact that crime is at historic lows even through a terrible recession.

The reality is that the true threats are Chinese and Soviet hackers and asymmetrical warfare,which they have been proven time and again to be ineffective in combating.

Frank Zappa wrote some excellent lyrics about it 20-30 years ago.

centralcal

Thanks NK. My comment sat here in the box because a client came in. When I hit post, the other comments appeared.

Europe does sound hopeless. And we will be next if we aren't careful.

AliceH

Couple things.

* In 2004 until now, 180 days was reasonable, but now it's not because...why? And a reasonable increase is FIVE YEARS?

* Am I to understand (from the hypothetical example) that the State Department isn't actually checking these connections already?

Also one more: There must be more than a dozen govt entities staffed with at least some "counterterrorism analysts". Which ones are we talking about having access to this?

Captain Hate

I've been to Rouen before (it's a sister city to Cleveland but that's not why I was there) and Joan of Arc is remembered fondly there. The French get a bad rap imo because of their experience in WW2. I'm not surprised by the students' reaction and the teacher was a fool to try and impose that nonsense on them.

Janet

"Hanging with the women haters."

Heh! Such a nice group of people at the rally...just like the Tea Parties. The opening was powerful with us on our knees asking for God's mercy & help. We were in front of the HHS bldg. on Independence Ave..

Gus

Gay looking Count Chocula??? Next thing you know Cap'n Crunch will be going below deck with Sugar Bear.

NK

"Next thing you know Cap'n Crunch will be going below deck with Sugar Bear..." whilst the crew were on deck doing stomach flattening exercises. VERY OLD SNL reference.

Jack is Back!

NK,

Damn Captcha ate my reply to you.

Yeah, Tiger owns Bay Hill. Its a man-sized golf course but with wide fairways, no rough to speak of, big receptive greens - perfect for a bomber and gouger like Tiger. Fun course and great crowds.

Jack is Back!

Does anyone know how the Captcha works?

I can post a dozen comments with links or images and get nary one. Then I can make a text only post without refreshing and bingo there is the Captcha. Also, most times it doesn't show its sneaky little head below the "Your Information" section and so you don't know its there and voila - your comment has disappeared.

Porchlight

Yes, Janet, you couldn't have asked for a more wholesome-looking group than our crowd. Lots and lots of kids. The turnout was a pleasant surprise considering it was very lightly publicized from what I understand.

Danube of Thought

"Does anyone here have a problem with the Feds keeping a data base of info for five years on citizens who are suspected of no wrongdoing?"

Damn right.

Gus

Danube, keeping such data is perfectly ok with libs and J.Edgar Hoover.
......
something to do with the "COMMERCE CLAUSE".

MarkO

JiB, of course I'm not watching. I'm scanning the thread for your posts. $5.00 Woods chokes. There is betting at JOMWood.

Why should the government keep a data base for no reason? Exactly. There's a reason. And, it can't be a good reason.

Obama is actually frightening in a way I've not seen from any other President.

MarkO

This just in (and copied poorly by my editor)

Drudge Report ‏ @Drudge_Report
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Retweeted by Ann Coulter

AliceH

These are the same guys who were apopleptic about the Bush admininstration even suggesting a program including eavesdropping on phone calls that originated outside the U.S. to destinations outside the U.S. but were routed through the U.S., right?

Gus

Alice, **conversations between known terrorists and their associates**

Fascists project their sick twisted ideas on those they oppose. Libtards are fascists.

Dave (in MA)

MarkO, unfortunately it's only a double digit lead in the primary.

Dave (in MA)
What exactly did Ashcroft do to deserve that calendar?
As far as I can tell the main reasons were that he was a Republican and a conservative Christian.
MarkO

You're right Dave. Maybe he can get a lead on Obama.

Stephanie

Who just posted a nine? Did the alligator play a role?

Thomas Collins

See LUN on for a short summary of the Mark Steyn-Ralph Peters kerfuffle a few years back on the issue of whether non-Islamic Euros would react to the Islamization of Europe by killing Muslims. My view is that whichever way it ends up, the blood is going to flow. Multiculturalism is not sustainable. If a multiethnic society is desired, a self evident truths polity with a strong assimilation process is the way to go. Unfortunately, the US is also trending towards the multicultural mindset.

AliceH

The NYT story linked by TomM says the rules allowing 5 years retention of data on American citizens who are not known to be suspicious in any way "grew out of reviews launched after the failure to connect the dots about Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the “underwear bomber,” before his Dec. 25, 2009, attempt to bomb a Detroit-bound airliner. "

That makes no sense at all. Abdulmutallab is not an American citizen, and none of the dots they failed to connect were from American citizens.

I hate being fed a line, but I really hate it when they don't even try to come up with a plausible one.

hit and run

Stephanie:
Who just posted a nine?

Not Ignatz. He waits until after 5pm pacific.

Jack is Back!

This just in: Its official. According to the DNC, the Republicans are responsible for Tayron Martin's death.

These people have no shame but at least they listened to Rahm when he talked.

Gmax

OK just back from the Dallas rally. Never in my life have I been to a protest rally. And I bet there is not too many rally that the crowd sang God Bless America either!

I am a terrible judge of crowds, but there was way too many for me to count noses. I would say 1500 - 2000 I think. Some great speakers I did not know, plus a couple I did. Local radio talk show host JD Wells, and Pastor Stephen Broden, who unsuccessful tried to send Eddie Bernice Johnson to the retired congressperson list.

Smattering of all races throughout the crowd, even some of Asian descent.

A discussion of Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists was enlightening. Several speakers pulled no punches and let into the Democrat Party pretty strongly.

All in all, the weather was great and so was the rally.

We are going to take back our Republic.


NK

JiB-- I said it earlier-- all Dems are Slags all Progs are fascists. Your Finney link is more evidence.

Gus

Ignatz rarely posts a 9, he posts 10's 6's, and a few 1's
Some of his posts amuse me, and some scare me!

Porchlight

Great turnout, Gmax. Glad to hear it. We sang God Bless America, too - all verses.

hit and run

Go to hell Taliban Duke!

"I have said very publicly that if Duke was playing against the Taliban then I'd have to pull for the Taliban."
--Brad Miller, US Congressman (D-NC 13)

The article linked above concludes, "Guess who's not running for re-election?"

(of course, that's almost entirely because he got re-districted out of any chance of being re-elected)

Ignatz

--See LUN on for a short summary of the Mark Steyn-Ralph Peters kerfuffle a few years back on the issue of whether non-Islamic Euros would react to the Islamization of Europe by killing Muslims.--

I bow to no one in my respect for JiB's wisdom but I have to say I am highly skeptical that several thousand years of bloodthirsty European throat slitting regarding every possible ethnic, national and religious difference has been stanched by a couple of generations of enervating welfare statism.
Scratch a pacific Swede deep enough and there's Eric the Frickin Red not far underneath and the same goes for every other one of them. It was only 65 years ago, after all, that our over-civilized Euro weenie friends were doing their damndest to exterminate themselves and the rest of us along with them.

Rick Ballard

TC,

I haven't seen any public discussion on the part of credentialed morons on either side of the rivulet dividing the two branches of the oligarchy regarding planning for the outcome of the Great OPM Withdrawal. It may be that this move by Tyrannus BOzo reflects anticipatory planning with an eye towards more elastic definitions of 'terrorism'.

When the OPM runs out in EUtopia, the Mohametans will be run out as well. I'm unsure of the level of bloodshed which will be involved because it will start with trying to starve them out by reducing benefits to zero. It's an interesting demographic problem due to the strength of security forces coupled with a population decline.

Ignatz

--Ignatz rarely posts a 9, he posts 10's 6's, and a few 1's--

Is 10, 6, 1 a Fibonacci sequence?


--Some of his posts amuse me, and some scare me!--

Wish I was from Maryland; I always wanted to say 'fear the turtle'.
Just to remind everyone that my power can be used for evil as well, should anyone get on my bad side;


Jack is Back!

Iggy,

I wish it was the Europe of your ancestors but it isn't. They have been wussified by social engineering that you just can't appreciate until you see it and its flowering bureaucracy in action. Its more than anecdotal its a fact.

You've seen those vids of the Euro Parliment where Daniel Hannen and Nigel Farage eviscerate modern mandarins of European disintegration. They really are a flabby and fearful crowd of appeasers who would rather live with doing nothing than to create a new ethnic cleansing. They have done nothing to encourage assimilation and even if they did the muzzies because of their orthodoxy couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't do it anyway.

And it is exactly what happened 65 years ago that is preventing them from any action. You should be a fly on the wall at my FIL's when the clan is gathered and I bring up, "what are you people going to do?". It is not pretty watching people drowing in denial while looking guilty for providing an intolerant future for their children.

BB Key

Hit, Miller's new district would have him facing fellow Dem David Price who used to teach Poli Sci @Dook . The not running for re-elction comment shows how clueless the AP reporter is about NC...Not many Duke grads in NC, that is why Duke is referred to as the University of New Jersy in Durham :)

jimmyk

JiB, Iggy a few off-the-cuff thoughts. First, I'm not sure it's a bad thing if it's actually true that Europeans are no longer engaging in genocide and mass slaughter each other every 30-40 years, assuming it's not because they're content to submit to slavery. But IF that's the case, it's important to know why, because the last thing we need is a widespread belief that the adoption of the welfare state has ended bloodshed. The alternative is that relative prosperity and freedom are responsible.

The Europeans I've talked about this with seem to think that the welfare state contributes at most to domestic tranquility only, not international peace. I think they're deluded on that too.

Ignatz

--And it is exactly what happened 65 years ago that is preventing them from any action. You should be a fly on the wall at my FIL's when the clan is gathered and I bring up, "what are you people going to do?". It is not pretty watching people drowing in denial while looking guilty for providing an intolerant future for their children.--

I'll take your word for it JiB, but I'll still be surprised if the veneer of over civilization doesn't dissolve once the barbarians' lances are dripping with Euro weenie blood and conquest is at hand, at which point that old Norseman, Angle, Frank and Visigoth heritage makes its way to the surface again.
And let's not forget the little unpleasantness of 65 years ago was supposed to have been impossible due to the previously unprecedented unpleasantness only 20 years previous; you know 'the war to end all wars' as it was so naively known for a time.

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

Janet,

How many people at the rally in DC?

You go girl!!!!

Clarice

cc, Normandy is not a typical part of France. They still remember the US troops saved them, for example.

centralcal

Jane if you scroll way up this thread page, I think she says approx. 500 at the rally.

centralcal

That is so good to know, Clarice, that their memories (and common sense) haven't been erased by modern multi-culti brainwashing.

centralcal

Everybody in the media is all breathless about this breaking news on Twitter:

Ben Smith ‏ @BuzzFeedBen
RT @WSJ: Breaking: MF Global employee says Corzine gave "direct instructions" to move $200 million http://wsj.com

Really? Really! Well, of course he did, what on earth did they think happened?

Clarice

cc, I usually just blame the skydragon. Global warming can just make money melt you know.

centralcal

heh, Clarice! Glo-bull Warming - is there anything it can't do?

rse

TC-have to disagree with your comment about tyrants and social scientists on the other thread. Too many recognize tyranny just fine. They intend to use their theories to be among the exploiters.

I have mentioned before that claire berlinski wrote a fine book on it really being too late for europe as we know it. Title will come to me while I work on something else.

The book I am looking at today came out of europe so BO really is pushing all the worst of their ideas on us as well.

We basically have an end game struggle going on all over world now as the policies and practices that give the political class and their cronies power and control gut economic prosperity. And the current malaise and all this money printing is just an attempt by the connected elite to obscure that reality for a while longer.

matt

you have to remember that it has always been certain Europeans who have done most of the slaughtering. The French had Hueguenots and Albigensians. The rest were mainly wars where large numbers simply ran away. There wasn't the decimation of the World Wars through most European history.

The badasses were the Germans, the Russians, and surprisingly, the Swedes historically. England had small armies that were highly effective and an indomitable fleet.

A Pole saved Vienna against the Ottomans, but much of the war and devastation in Italy was done by mercenaries who predated on the general populace.

Until 1914 warfare was stylized and limited. I do not believe most countries ever had truly credible militaries with a few exceptions like Napoleon or Blucher.

It was much easier to isolate minorities and marginalize or exterminate them. Civilians don't fight back.

Clarice

To read of the wars between the Guelphs and the Ghibellines is to wish for that simpler time. Handfuls of guys spent a lot of time getting tarted up in gorgeous costumi and arraying their steads in finery--they'd head out to a field of battle, have it out and then return for a celabratory meal.

I love Italians, even ancient ones.

Ranger

And let's not forget the little unpleasantness of 65 years ago was supposed to have been impossible due to the previously unprecedented unpleasantness only 20 years previous; you know 'the war to end all wars' as it was so naively known for a time.

And let us also not forget that the unplesantness in the early 40s didn't in any way deter similar unplesantness in the Former Yugoslavia in the 90s.

The image of "Brotherhood and Unity" in Europe is a very thin indeed. It doesn't take much of a scratch for the old attitudes to surface.

centralcal

Janet: Just for you - KLO posts photos of the DC event and many, many more from other cities around the country.

Protesting the HHS Mandate

Janet

Thank you for the link, centralcal.

Jane, Like cc said, I guessed around 500.

cathyf
Does anyone know how the Captcha works?
Well this is just speculation based on observation, but it seems to be triggered by behavior that is not "involved" enough. So if I write some long rambling piece (shut up!) and do a couple of previews, followed by edits, maybe the page expires and I have to refresh before I post, I never see a captcha. On the other hand, a "drive-by" posting, especially where I don't preview, gets a capcha maybe 80% of the time. In between those extremes, I dunno beats the hell outta me whether it's gonna come up or not!
pagar

I don't recall this happening under Bush.

"http://www.zerohedge.com/news/fourth-largest-gun-maker-us-out-guns

", the incoming order rate exceeds our capacity to rapidly fulfill these orders. Consequently, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders."

hit and run

There is no "website monitor" here.

Danube of Thought

My hunch is that the non-Muslim Europeans will submit meekly.

The very hardest part of the upcoming Supreme Court ruling is going to be the gloating from Greenhouse, Lithwick and Pelosi.

Melinda Romanoff

Greenhouse, apparently, already started.

Captain Hate

Last laugh, DoT

jimmyk

There wasn't the decimation of the World Wars through most European history.

they'd head out to a field of battle, have it out and then return for a celabratory meal.

Two things I learned from the great historian William McNeil. First, that the percentage of the population killed in wars has been pretty steady over the centuries. Not year to year obviously, but the 20th century was not significantly more deadly, percentagewise, than the 19th or 12th.

Second, until WWII or maybe even including WWII, most war-related deaths were from disease.

Ignatz

--The very hardest part of the upcoming Supreme Court ruling is going to be the gloating from Greenhouse, Lithwick and Pelosi.--

If it was after 5:00PM PST you'd get some serious encouragement.

MarkO

Hit, you can see just how incredibly stupid some White Phantom fans are.

MarkO

"The very hardest part of the upcoming Supreme Court ruling is going to be the gloating from Greenhouse, Lithwick and Pelosi."

They'll be long dead when the worst part of such a decision fully ensnares my children and grandchildren.

Frau Bettlaken

Clarice, I hear Axelplouffe and Val are researching the Field of the Cloth of Gold for decorating ideas to use at Obama's upcoming acceptance spectacular. There are so many Dem dragons available to fly overhead, a lottery will be held.

narciso

So. the Morgan/Chase where the MF Global funds, the same that suspended the Vatican's accounts
for money laundering, right.

Frau Bettlaken

"Ah, I see that the chickenshit website monitor troll here is spitefully rewriting my comments. What an asshole."
fify -

Meet Cleo the Vulgarian and scroll on by.

narciso
narciso

I looked at Taranto's evisceration of Greenhouse and Lithwick, he needed a third to complete the trifecta.

Jane

What's your problem Brian?

narciso

No it refers to low lying lands, hence the system of levies, to keep the sea from coming in,

sbw

Yet another troll not worth feeding.

boris

The expression is "sh!t for brians".

Ignatz

Brian is tedious Evil Anne not someone new.

Jane (Bad says Obama sucks)

I wonder why certain trolls have such a need to be among people they hate. Such masochism is really inexplicable.

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