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March 04, 2012

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NK

TK-- thanks for the link, I will listen to that tonight. Occam's razor is sharpening here; Barry Soetero played the affirmative action game by applying to Occidental/Columbia as a poor third world student for admission and financial aid preferences-- for the schools it looks alot better giving preferences to an indonesian than some rich prep kid from Honolulu's most expensive school. Unbelieveable, the POTUS is an out and out fraud.

Danube of Thought

we believe that the post office stamp which tries to portray that card as being accepted at a post office in Hawaii in 1980 was fraudulently applied to that document

It would be nice if they adduced some evidence in support of that belief. I suppose that is why they are subjecting it to severe investigation. Severity is definitely called for here.

Captain Hate

NK, that's what I've believed all along.

Janet

It would be nice if they adduced some evidence in support of that belief.

They did. You had to listen to the press briefing or the videos of the press briefing.

cathyf
The reply "You hypocrite!" is in the list of informal fallacies in that field.
This seems appropriate to the discussion: Love Is a Fallacy
Rocco

The Post Office Stamp is USPO but USPO was changed 10 years earlier to USPS

Threadkiller

--"It would be nice if they adduced some evidence in support of that belief."--

This video seems to drop "a deuce" on Obama.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joe-arpaio-cold-case-posse-video-on-obama-selective-service-fraud/

Rocco

Postal Reorganization Act

How could Obama's SSS be stamped with USPO in 1980 when the Postal Reorganization Act changed the stamp to USPS in 1970?

jimmyk

Well, I wouldn't put it past the post office to take 10 years to update all its equipment, but that's a matter of speculation.

Jane

No it was a local business owner having a fund raiser. I had the fundraiser on the radio last week and though I should go and support him. It's the middle of a monday in central MA. Most people are working. It was at a good place tho (where we have our tea party meetings) . We could all sit around the bar and he walked around to talk to us and then delivered some remarks.

NK

TK/Rocca-- you guys were true believers all along about the citizen paper trail. Now it may be that constitutionally O'Loser is 'natural born', but he violated his statutory obligations to register and then fraudulently filed a false SS registration, after he told Occidental/Columbia he was a foreign national. Unbelievable. Where's Angela Landsbury and the Queen of Diamonds?

Porchlight

How could Obama's SSS be stamped with USPO in 1980 when the Postal Reorganization Act changed the stamp to USPS in 1970?

It's also interesting that Obama wrote the date next to his signature as July 30, 1980, but the stamp says July 29, 1980.

I guess the official answer is that he wrote the wrong date? Along with all the other discrepancies. Okay.

maryrose

TK, NK, And Porch:
Thanks for your perseverance and courage in all that you are undertaking to expose the fraud, Obama.Notice I no longer call him president because he has I believe falsely claimed the title.
Inyeresting side-note: More people in Texas are buying guns because they fear Odummy re-election and are convinced he will go after gun owners next.
No matter what happens with Rush everyone now knows Obama is irreligious and against religious liberty. This kerfuffle is worth it just to expose Obummer for the true religious fraud that he is.

Danube of Thought

Thanks Janet et al.

Rocco

jimmyk

Good point and most likely correct.

NK

Don't thank me Maryrose, TK has doggedly pursued the citizenship issue and Porch has been a great detective about the bogus documenttaion. I just apply logic to what they've found out.

NK

jimmyk-- fair speculation but I don't think that happened. 1981-1982 I was a clerk in a DC law firm that did postal regulation law; my vague recollection was that the 1970 legislation converting the post office to the USPS had a sunset date for all equipment to convert over to USPS labeling and any labels noting 'post office department' after the sunset were invalid -- that sunset was years before 1980.

Danube of Thought

That's a very interesting video.

Where does the "USPO" appear?

Janet

Here is a link -


It is too big, but right click to get the entire image. I don't know how to make them smaller.

Janet

I see Obama had his girlie-man signature back then too.

Janet

A close up of the stamp -

SWarren

Hmm, and I recall something a few years ago that he voluntarily gave up his License to Practice because the Bar said he lied on his application to Harvard Law School. Was it ever determined what that lie was?

Rocco

USPO appears in the round stamp under 08. It's hard to read but it definitely doesn't read USPS

NK

Thanks Janet-- 'bam could have been home in Honolulu between frosh/soph year at Occidental. I don't own a copy of either of his books, where does he say he was in summer 1980? July 29th? 'Bam mailed the form the FIRST DAY he was required to file under the new law? really? if true I'm impressed that a 19 year old marxist so obediently complied with the MILITARY DRAFT registration obligations DURING HIS SUMMER VACATION! Methinks, Ayers Wiki'ed the filing dates back in 2004.

Rocco

I'm dyslexic here...under 80

OldTimer

Whatever results are obtained from further investigations into Barry's eligibility issues and whatever documents have appeared in IT forums to prove him legal or just the opposite, there are suddenly more questions from Arpaio's investigation appearing in the public domain right before the election, which will to prod more citizens to ask themselves, "Just who is this guy, anyway?"

Our Barry is a product of the Left, mushed up and slathered together with all sorts of international political and cultural animosity garnered from his dysfunctional mother and disgruntled grandparents and guided through the process by greedy politicians eager to keep their power, using O'Barry to keep them entrenched. The guy's a fraud because HE, himself, has no idea who he is or what he really believes. He has succumbed to the lowest possible denominator of behavior to feed his ego and personal power structure while enriching his bank account for life--nothing more; nothing less.

History is replete with Obama's here and Obama's there. Treacherous good-for-nothing's, all of them...

Janet

NK, The Obama File is a great tool. The Obama Timeline is too.

Janet

THis is the guy whose family Obama supposedly visited in Pakistan. Chandoo

rse

Old Timer- if you have not read Radical in Chief, it is well worth it for getting Obama.

What he has done to this country including what I have documented and now largely finished describing is too well crafted not to be intentional.

Jane

I've always wondered why they are they sitting on top of each other in that picture - with the whole couch spread out next to them.

Janet

That Dr. John Drew who did some podcasts about meeting Obama at Occidental says he thought they were gay. (this is a Freeper link but it links to the B-cast interview. Drew has written at Am. Thinker too)

Jane

Some day we should all post our own narratives of what we think the truth is about Obama. That would be hysterical.

OldTimer

I perhaps should restructure my description of the Obama manifestation--yes, he definitely has an agenda, it's aided and abetted by all his Leftest czars and hanger's on, his Pelosi-Reid congressional accomplices, pushing, prodding,implementing and enmeshing us in a web of bureaucratic deceit, and all the chapters were written decades ago and have been silently infiltrating our revered institutions and once trusted agencies of government. The guy's a Time-Bomb of great mischief. Planted when - nationally - we were at our least cognizant of his danger, and presented to us as a gift of democratic and political healing.

daddy

"I figure daddy must have posted about this in the past but it got lost in his provincial bloviations that ramble so endlessly that either he's suffering from jet lag or brevity isn't stressed at Chapel Hole"

Many true words said in jest Captain.

I do hope I don't come across that way too often.

Captain Hate

No worries daddy; I made it clear I was just jabbing you in fun. Although I'd welcome an update about your thoughts on the Stevens' prosecution.

Gus

Opie is sitting "dangerously" close to his Paki-Pal.

I wonder why???

OldTimer

Time to belly up to the bar. I think Breitbart's passing has given me the ability (courage?) to say what I believe to the Democrats, the jelly fish, the 'mindless followers' of my acquaintance--family or otherwise. If they are too cowardly to at least look at the evidence and use their craniums to digest information, then they are the losers, not me.

I'm really fed up tip-toeing around on egg-shells. To heck with the Left if they can't muster the courage to question the prevailing political carp from Obama Co., masquerading as intelligent thought. The Leftie's detest wisdom and the Word. They will lose.

I refer everyone to some eternal words of wisdom, starting with Proverbs---no matter what we think, or what they think, the Voice of all Reason will prevail:

http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/15-wisdom-quotes-from-the-bible/

daddy

Thanks TK, and NK, and JimmyK,

for all your excellent comments on the Selective Service Fraud issue.

Nobody does it like our KKKer's:)

scott

Got that right Gus. Baraka is sitting way too close to that dude. And I don't think that dude reads SI in February.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

I saw something in the linked film clip of the selective service analysis that may contradict the point about the outdated "USPO" stamp, but I'm not sure it wasn't covered somewhere else.

Three of the four 1980 era stamps used to show the four digit year pica stamp clearly show "USPO" on the bottom of the stamp. Two of those are from Honolulu and one from Camp Lejeune.

The four digit year argument is somewhat persuasive to me, but the USPO argument seems to be undermined by the clip.

Can anyone help here?

Danube of Thought

Three to one that fella drops anchor in Poo Harbor.

Danube of Thought

I was unable to see the stamps in the 'good" documents, but that was the first question I had, JRhoads.

I also wonder how and why a guy contemplating applying a phony stamp to a document does it using a device that's been out of date for thirty or forty years. And how hard would it have been to forge "1980" instead of cutting out an "08" and inverting it?

And it it was in fact a 2008 stamp, why did it say "USPO?"

I would love to hear this evidence presented by a document wxaminer and subject to cross.

AliceH

I haven't looked at any of the video, so this is not based on anything but plot-analysis from reading too many novels... One reason why a forgery may have been made mistakenly using an outdated stamp would be that it was modeled on a legitimate document that was newer/used the new stamp.

AliceH

Or rather, modeled on an older doc/using the previous stamp... As I said, not following this too closely. Too many details to parse during my detail-intensive work-week

Rocco

jimmyk was right about the Post Office not updating their stamps. Scroll to the bottom (To Ken) and there are links to 1980 and above postal stamps using USPO.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2131428/posts?page=53

Gus

Danube. Poo Harbor is in Hawaii??

Imagine a pic of a GOP dude sitting "close" like that.


Gus

That dude with Obama looks like he's from
PACK IN STAN.

jimmyk

Rocco, am I reading it right, that this was a discussion from 2008? Why is it news now?

Or are they backdating the discussions as a clever way to show how things can be backdated? :)

Rocco

When news broke that Arpaio had some dirt on Obama's SSS, I remembered reading about the USPO vs the USPS thing a while ago. Perhaps I jumped the shark assuming Arpaio was onto the same thing. I didn't know until a few minutes ago, this 80 USPO stamp was debunked.

I hope Arpaio has some new dirt instead of this rehashed stuff.

Danube of Thought

How and where was it debunked, Rocco?

Rocco

Photobucket

If you scroll to the bottom of this Free Republic link and look for Ken Wood, he posts several examples of postal stamps dated 1980 and above with USPO on them. This is one of his.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2131428/posts?page=53

Ben Franklin

I love the smell of desperation, in the morning, afternoon, or evening.

Smells like.......................victory.

Threadkiller

Just now checking in. Rocco is correct. The usps vs the uspo was an earlier debate topic from '08. Arpaio's "posse" is dealing with how the stamp was tampered with and IIRC there is no current mention of old vs new stamp style.

Ann

Photobucket

Why is the NO-ID box checked?


Threadkiller

It might be coming from your upper lip, Bens.

Ann


Sorry, the photobucket re-size function did not work.

Ben Franklin

Why? Why?.....Oh......Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

Danube of Thought

How is it compared to napalm, Ben?

Ann

Now... it looks OK. It is official. I have lost my mind. Going back to bed.

Did I also ask a stupid question?

jimmyk

No, just a difficult one.

Melinda Romanoff

jimmyk-

I think it's a very good question.

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