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Frau Erste?

Here's for TK to follow-up from yesterday on the Obama's latest late Friday EO-

Danube of Thought

Can't wait to see the Lehigh cheerleaders.

Donald

Gabe Knudson. You can only hope to contain him.

Captain Hate

Better have a wide screen tv DoT.

narciso

Are they really that zaftig, Captain,

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Come on, CH and DOT. Have a heart. When I went to Lehigh all the cheerleaders were men. THere is at least some improvement. And I don't expect the Musketeer cheerleaders will be that much more svelte.

Danube of Thought

I was playing poker and so missed the Duke game. But having read about the here I went to Google Images and searched "Lehigh Cheerleaders." i did get some that looked like the Seven Tons of Fun, but some others came up that were hot enough that they'll have to await the adult hour. And the ain't wearing the Blue and White, so I don't know how they got in there.

Ignatz

So what's the prob?
Wrong year?

Jane (get off the couch - come save the country)

So what are we rallying for? Whatever it is, I'm in.

Old Lurker

I second Jim's observation from his time on South Mountain. I was at Lehigh a few years after him, and cheerleaders were still all guys. Come to think of it, I don't know if we even played B Ball. We did wrestle in the gym though.

Gmax

Is Away Wego, a dog? Is he related to that dog in the Bud light commercial, Wego?

Gmax

cheerleaders were still all guys. Come to think of it, I don't know if we even played B Ball. We did wrestle in the gym though.

Too much information...

Jack is Back!

I had a great friend who wrestled for Lehigh and died young of a brain tumor. Top engineer. I had to take his place in the hiererarcy and hated it. So, Lehigh rocks for me. Shoot like you mean it.

Captain Hate
Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

OL -- we did play basketball, but not too well. Billy Packer's dad Tony was the coach. I am sure CH will have an observation about that. BTW, when did you graduate?

Captain Hate

Billy Packer's dad Tony was the coach. I am sure CH will have an observation about that.

Actually 2 observations:

1. I didn't know until yesterday that Packer's father was a coach.

2. I always assumed he'd been adopted by his coach at Wake, Bones McKinney, from the number of times he and Jim Thacker used to have him on when he was doing ACC games and they'd have to hustle him off the air before he started ranting about how the blacks were ruining the game.

Ignatz

LOL.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

Lehigh has always had a great nationally ranked wrestling program, GMAX. There were 4 HS wrestling champs in my fraternity, none of whom could make the varsity. We had a great intramural team wrestling in the gym, though.

Gmax

Intramural wrestling sounds like a euphemism, not that there is anything wrong with that...

scott

It looks like Sarah P.'s death panel quip has been vindicated by none other than dead 'conservative democrat' walking Claire McCaskill among others. Revenge is a dish best served with cold cuts as Tony said!

Several Senate Democrats up for reelection tell The Hill they haven't ruled out bucking President Obama by voting to repeal the health law's cost-control board.


Gmax

That happens in prisons too. Not that Lehigh is a prison or anything close...

narciso

This is where Iacocca was from wasn't he, I think the rags on the Cheerleaders is a little
over the mark.

narciso

Yes that last was the exception, that proved the rule;

Jack is Back!

Jim Rhoads,

If you were in VN, then you are my age and my buddies. Did you know Harley Ferguson at Lehigh?

Sara

CNN finally called Puerto Rico for Romney. With 32% of the vote in:

Romney 35,447 83.28%
Santorum 3,404 8.00%
Gingrich 912 2.14%
Roemer 862 2.03%
Karger 661 1.55%
Ron Paul 661 1.55%

Over 50% is Winner Take All.

Danube of Thought

When I was in school Lehigh was the top wrestling program in the East. I think Iowa rivaled them then, but Iowa became dominant later.

narciso

George you have been drinking too much from the watercooler over there, brain slugs are
rampant,


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/george-will-i-never-said-the-white-house-wasnt-winnable/

Sara

CORRECTION:

Ron Paul 494 1.16%

Captain Hate

When I was working for the third rate utility, I had a summer intern from Lehigh. She was an outstanding worker and very smart. I could tell that an electric utility wasn't in her (or my) future.

Captain Hate

George Will must be jonesing for baseball. And bow ties. But mostly baseball.

MarkO

That Lehigh cheerleader riff is cold. Very cold. Any from New Jersey?

narciso

We're used to dissapointment down here, first
the notion that Manning would sign with the Dolphins, seriously, now Flynn signing with the Seahawks.

Captain Hate

Two depressing items in memorandum to the left: San Diego Tea Party leader arrested for kidnapping and rape (all caps)

and McCain says Romney 'improving dramatically' as a GOP candidate

I'm betting one of the stories is completely bogus and unfortunately that leaves the latter one.

Jack is Back!

narciso,

Can you spell T.E.B.O.W.?

narciso

Turns out Konicky (sic) was dismissed the month before, so Maverick , augurs straight into self parody, he also wants to concede the freedom of religion argument,

Captain Hate

Nice first half for the Mountain Hawks!!!

Gmax

The "Tea Party Leader" is neither. Not a member of any Tea Party org, and not a leader either. More wishful thinking by the media. Remember after Gabby Giffords when it was all about respectful dialogue? How long did that last?

Jane (Bad says Obama sucks)

I think the tea party guy stepped down in Jan. But he was I tea party guy.

Danube of Thought

Jesus, Narc, who can possibly extract meaning from your 9:17?

rse

Want a story? FIL went to lehigh on fb scholarship. Sports are important enough there's a story about missing a son's birth. Anyway hubby and I met because a law school class mate had done work for him and bought braves tickets back when they were terrible.

Later when I met his parents they assumed the story about meeting at a BB game was made up to sound better. Apparently the idea of their son voluntarily going to a BB game made less sense than meeting at some bar and then trying to come up with a cuter story.

All I know is that lehigh is on a hilltop because they took over the old steelworks and that lee iacooca? went there.

Am I the only person never to bet on an ncaa bracket?

narciso

His LinkedIn page, doesn't list the Tea Party as part of background, but he pipes in
that he is their spokesman, one would think
that would be important enough to showcase.

McCain was a naval aviator, crash and burn seems to be his style, that really wasn't cryptic at all, Danube.

Jack is Back!

DoT,

He's talking about McCain, I think but the rest is cypher.

Gmax

Purdue up for the time being on 2 seed Jayhawks.

Gus

Those Brown uniforms. Only Valpo tops them.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vnjagvet

When did your FIL graduate from Lehigh, rse?

Jack is Back!

Bite Me is booed in Steeler City

For the first time In my life I am proud of Pittsburgh:)

narciso

I got it from here, yes consider the 'ray shielded source,' then again he went on the MTP in the first place, and unlike Newt,
was not out of bubble gum.


http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=38476

Jack is Back!

What's Wrong with Kansas?

Joan

DOT & JiB: Narciso's post. He's saying that the guy must be a maverick, not real tea party. That's what I got from his post ... maybe I'm wrong since you guys post and read every day, but augers is often used that something might be good for a situation, i.e., his not being a tea party member augers (well) that he's probably a maverick and might be a bit of a loon (self parody).
??

And, I'm really going out on a limb here...trying to interpret the brilliant Narciso.

Rick Ballard

Narciso,

Are you saying his past augured augering or are you saying that augering into the augury provided by his campaign performance predicts his current behavior?

Joan

I was wrong. :)

Jane (Bad says Obama sucks)

Cap'n Gateway Pundut is reporting the guy is not a teapartier, the media made it up - which you probably already knew.

Jack is Back!

narciso,

That makes me sad as hell. I know John. Too well. I have had his HH roommates in my house and we all agree he is a stand up guy except he has been totally corrupted by DC. It happens. the PRNVN couldn't break him but the bullshit of DC could corrupt his mind.

Sad. That's all I can say. That and being disappointed in where it has led him.

Everyone think about this when you vote for your next Senator. Why would they want to be part of that cabal?

narciso

No I was referring to two disparate augurings, which I borrowed from the first
chapter of the Right Stuff, which the film
couldn't possibly capture.


now Kobulnicky's Linked In, and organizational
site, list him as a member with the San Diego
Tea Party, but they don't refer to him, at all,

Gus

Of course he was a Tea Party guy. Dan Rather has papers to prove it.

rse

jim-about 1950. Maybe 52 or so. Will get precise year next time I see him.

MarkO

Why do all Tea Party members have to be the Twelve Apostles? These are regular people who hate big government. We can't even get the Occupy rapes on the air.

We can't live like this. As Clarice said, fight back.

MarkO

daddy, Marshall breaks right wrist. UNC in trouble. Michael Jackson's doctor unable to give opinion regarding playing time.

Actually, I hate to see kids hurt and out. Even White Phantoms. He played most of today's game injured, so maybe there's hope.

narciso

Because they lie, Mark O, about Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan, (the October Surprise) Quayle
(the Kimberlin sliming), Ken Starr, Lewis Libby, the late Ted Stevens, W, and Palin was
the most extreme example, like the scorpion
that is their nature, Meanwhile you pretend
there is something you can do not to aggravate
the muddle, not possible,

Gus

MarkO, Sen. Ron Johnson R-WI once told me how frustrating it was dealing with the media.
He said he told them that HE was a product of the TEA PARTY'S and that all he wanted was less spending and our Constitution upheld.

MarkO

I've come to believe that our side is far too polite. The other side sees good manners and civility on our part as weakness. Thus, they demand it of us while they call Sarah the word that reduces all women to one anatomical part.

Why is John Edwards not exhibit A in the contraception/war on women fight? Even I can make him relevant to that? But, we're civilized and maybe that works. I know it will come as a shock, but I'm more combative than that.

The Mohamatans use the same device, but take our civil rights protections and use them as a sword.

Gus

It's Alynski. They hold us to a standard.
They have no standard.

MaryW

DOT

Iowa State was the better wrestling school. Remember that is were Dan Gable wrestled. I only went to nationals once and saw him lose for the only time in high school and college. After he won the gold medal, Gable became the wrestling coach at Iowa and that is when Iowa became a powerhouse.

rse

My husband and I met in a pub in London. Our kids thought it was cool and delight in telling that story to their friends.

narciso

This is the reporter that started the astroturfed fire;

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665941.php

MarkO

Xavier demonstrating the ineptitude of my Duke team. What good are powerhouse guards who can't score? He said, with some snark.

narciso

Well clearly, those are rhetorical questions,

Americana Alice (formerly known as AliceH)

I'm all for fighting back, but I don't think that playing dirty or saying "we're too polite" is the way to go. I don't believe ends justify the means, however vital we think the ends are. It's impatience and frustration driving that, I think, and that's understandable. But really - while the left seems to have all the power cards in the Presidency, the Senate, the media, Education etc. we've got the numbers and an Army of Davids is slowly but surely overcoming their advantage. The Tea parties have made a HUGE difference already, even though there's been almost no positive or regular unbiased coverage - that's something that we need to keep supporting.

Of course, it's an uphill climb, and a long long way to go - but we can't slack off, we mustn't give in, and we should not look to cut corners in our fight to reclaim our American Exceptionalism of small government, freedom, and individualism.

I really am not one to give pep talks or sermons but there's been a bit more defeatism on the threads recently and it's wearing on me.

Gmax

I will try to be more optimistic in the future AA!

narciso

Well no, Alice, although I sometimes I feel like I'm in Wonderland, we are counseled by 'our betters' to accept the lies about us, and deny the myriad flaws in the enemy, and this pattern is echoed by whatever the memestream has dictated;

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/03/18/ap-assigns-seven-occupy-movements-six-month-anniversary-omits-crime-all-

pagar

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/finally-after-3-years-the-lib-media-has-their-violent-tea-party-activistrapist/

"Breaking: So-Called California Tea Party Spokesman/Rapist IS NOT TEA PARTY Member or Spokesman

Looks like more leftist lies.

Captain Hate

Gateway Pundut is reporting the guy is not a teapartier, the media made it up - which you probably already knew.

Well I strongly suspected it since this is the type of thing the MFM wants to be true more than they know it to be true and thus don't do any of the due diligence which they say sets them apart from us unwashed on-line mongrels. But thanks for the confirmation.

Rocco

When my youngest was wrestling in high school, we saw Lehigh wrestle Harvard at Harvard. Ross was ranked 5th in New England as a high school heavyweight and wrestled at a community college in the Erie area. He learned quickly that 5th in New England is nobody out there in wrestling country. Although he "got dishragged" as he liked to say, the weekend tourney's were D1 and D2. He did win a few though.

narciso

The interesting thing, Captain, is that he is explicitly associating himself with the SDTP,
recall that Tea Party Tracking effort, from a year and a half back.

Gus

Cap'n, the MSM are all libs. They BELIEVE that the TEA PARTY is X,Y or Z. We have a REAL REAL REAL culture war.
The MSM and the LEFT doesn't see what Obama and Sebelius et al are doing as WRONG. They don't think being pals with Bill Ayers is any big deal. They simply don't see America like we do. Add to that they are MENTALLY ILL.

Janet

Thanks for the link on the other thread, narciso.

Sara

Alice:

This writer makes the same point as you:

Open Letter to the All-Powerful Illinois Voters — The Tipping Point is Now!

Much has been said about the faceless “Republican Establishment” that supposedly wants this candidate or that candidate to represent the party in the upcoming presidential election. I don’t know who that is, or if such an Establishment even exists, but the people talking about it ignore one important fact: this thing is in the hands of American voters. And American voters seldom take orders from “establishments.
Janet

From a FB post -

The Muslims are not happy!

They're not happy in Gaza .
They're not happy in Egypt .
They're not happy in Libya .
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran .
They're not happy in Iraq .
They're not happy in Yemen .
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria .
They're not happy in Lebanon.

So, where are they happy?

They're happy in Canada.
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in every country that is not Muslim.

And who do they blame?

Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEM TO BE LIKE THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM . .

WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY.

Excuse me, but . . .
How stupid can you get?

Americana Alice (formerly known as AliceH)

Gmax@10:28 - oh, you are the best. I alwasy read you posts twice for double helping of optimism!

narc@10:28 and pagar@10:32 -- but, we are pushing back, right? Of course, the hits keep coming - so far - but that just means we haven't won YET. We do need to do more than just have blogs calling out the lies and distortions - and we DO - but even that matters.

Until I started reading blogs, I didn't know there were people who thought like me out there. That was HUGE! and not a unique event.

I went to a tea party event during the 2010 elections, and talked to the wife of one of the men running for state rep - she told me he had never run before, but they joined a tea party and met so many people who were just starting to get politically active, that it changed their idea of what they, too, could do. Running for office was a long shot, but it was act of patriotism and dedication to the principles they felt were getting lost that made this retired couple decide to put their money and their time where their hopes were.

Heck, you guys inspired me to go to my caucus yesterday.

There must be hundreds or thousands of battles like that that are won each day - need to take a moment now and then and think of that. It is not a war than will be won or lost this year or next or even the next decade.

Danube of Thought

I've known John M since I was five, and regularly see some of his fellow POWs. Never a bad word or thought about him as a man from them or me. I am not the only one who is perplexed and frustrated by his politics.

Gus

Janet, they were happy partying here, on 9/10/11. We simply do not understand the their mindset.

narciso

Well I don't get it either, Danube, I figured as much because of your navy background. there is something in the zeitgeist the miliue that counsels accomodation, not Jeremiah Denton of course, but he was replaced
after one term,

Americana Alice (formerly known as AliceH)

Thanks for the link to that article, Sara. Bookmarked.

Ignatz

--I really am not one to give pep talks or sermons but there's been a bit more defeatism on the threads recently and it's wearing on me.--

Careful Alice. That's the kind of talk which might summon forth the scantily clad to lift people's spirits.
Are you trying to get me in trouble again? :)

Americana Alice (formerly known as AliceH)

Ignatz - are you saying you need help for that?

Gus

Ignatz, No skinny starving ones.

narciso

Well no, I have more a historical bent about this, but it seems to me, this primary seems more focused around pulling punches around the main target, who is Obama, they lie about who we are, and what we believe in our heart. Whereas the our side, is unwilling to really call him out, in any extensive way. This is supposedly to curry favor with the Muddle, but
they don't seem terribly susceptible to facts.

Americana Alice (formerly known as AliceH)

Are there any poll numbers out about how many likely voters are even paying attention yet? It would surprise me if more than 50% are.

Danube of Thought

I think McC has a very strong, instinctive love for this country, and a sense that his views in that regard are held more closely by the GOP than by Dems. Beyond that, I doubt that he has ever thought deeply, or even seriously, about the role of free markets, for example, or the proper scope of governmental intrusion into the lives of free people.

When he was released from Hanoi he had a job as some sort of liaison to Capitol Hill (his tour as CO of a Naval Air Station was so disastrous they had to figure out what to do wih him). He was a natural glad-hander--and one of the Navy's all-time champion ass bandits--and he quickly became intoxicated with the smell of marble. That intoxication has damaged many a fine man.

Chubby

Ignatz:

I was thinking about your "Render unto Caesar" post. I have not gone back and confirmed, but as I am remembering it, you attributed the thought to St. Paul? If I am remembering your post correctly, just want to get down that the thought actually originated with Christ:

Matt 22:21
New International Version (©1984)
... "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

Mark 12:17
New International Version (©1984)
Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."


Luke 20:25
New International Version (©1984)
"...He said to them, "Then give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

Ignatz, if I have misremembered your post, I apologize in advance.

narciso

I think the whole Keating brouhaha, was probably the turning point, they played on his honor and his war record, to have him
front the CFR and other scams, Parodoxically
he became more interventionist, he had been critical of the Beirut deployment,

Captain Hate

They don't think being pals with Bill Ayers is any big deal.

Actually they think it is a big deal imo; just not in the way you and I think of it. I was an undergrad when Ayers and his ilk were becoming infamous and doing things like blowing themselves up as you'd expect idiots to do. There were a lot of people in my dorm who I was friends with who I couldn't get to say anything negative about Ayers when I made it clear that I thought he was a complete a-hole. I don't know if it was the cult of personality and/or whatever weird way they'd been brought up or educated, but they didn't think of him the way that you and I did.

I still see signs of it in people of my age group.

narciso

Well he wasn't terribly successful at his chosen field, his best effort killed his girlfriend, and one of his best friends,
It's interesting that Wiener's Enemies among all the chaff, indicates the circumstances under which Kearney, who headed the anti Weather front, was supervised by Felt, who then pretended to be the noble dissident,

Danube of Thought

Alice, you're a wonderful presence here. If it is necessary to keep you with us, I will post the occasional picture of a saucy, provocative nude female butt. Will that do?

Gus

Captain. I'm very very rarely unsure of myself. As I think YOU KNOW. But, IF, you are correct about the LEFT and the MSM, being AWARE of the sick FREAKISH nature of AYERS and Obama's close friendship, then we have another larger issue. THE MSM isn't merely biaed. The MSM is CORRUPT and COMPLETELY COMPLICIT.
Btw. If ANYONE thinks that AYERS and OBAMA were not VERY CLOSE. They are nuts. They probably don't know what FRIENDSHIP IS, but they know HOW TO USE ONE ANOTHER.

Gus

Ayers, the son of a VERY RICH DADDY, ran away, and hid for 10 years, after his BELOVED GIRLFRIEND.....Diana Oughton, BLEW HERSELF TO SMITHEREENS in a Greenwich Village Brownstone apt. She was manufacturing a BOMB, with the knowledge and skills that Ayers had provided.
She was IDENTIFIED, by a severed THUMB PRINT.
Bill Ayers, the son of a VERY VERY RICH RICH DADDY. COM EDISON CHAIRMAN DADDY.
Ran away. And hid.
This is OBAMA'S friend.

narciso

Well Gus, there is something about achieving a common goal, albeit for different reasons, Ayers goal was to stop the war, that was the Communists's one. liberals have a gripe with fundamental economic and social precepts, so
does the far left, it's more a matter of means not if ends, Wiener's excavation of the Bureau, mentioned earlier, takes the notion that many willing Soviet agents like
Bentley, and Remington, didn't know whothey were dealing with, in the Cheka apparat,
Krivitsky among others. they further suggest
that Chambers did, even though he took the extraordinary effort of 'coming out of the Cold.

Interesting researching
the latest revelations from Latell,

narciso

Cont; we come across this tidbit from a book with a similarly oriented premise;

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_451-475/doc0451.html

daddy

I hate CNN even worse than normal.

Pull into the Hotel, run up to the room and turn on the Tube. It's CNN World Sports hour. And all it is is Tennis with Federer, Golf, and now discussions with some guy about Soccer. No NCAA Basketball.

Truly does CNN suck. I hate 'em.

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