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April 09, 2012

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RattlerGator

Her *very* charitable opinion on the genesis of this hit job: "While of course I have no way of knowing, it seems to me the botched editing was not an intentional attempt to smear George Zimmerman."

Hmmmm . . . I'm not so sure about that. Almost *all* of the early non-Orlando reporting on this incident has been something of an attempt to smear Zimmerman. In fact, this has been a textbook case of lazy, biased reporting geared toward left-wing biases. Isn't it ???

jwest

Well, the executives at NBC did an extensive investigation and determined that this unfortunate editing was all just a simple mistake. Unless someone has internal emails showing it was deliberate, the narrative will now move into the “move along, nothing to see here” phase.

Damn. If only we had something else that would show a pattern of intentionally misleading editing…

Danube of Thought

Discovery in a libel action by Zimmerman might turn up a great deal of stuff, but I seriously doubt there will such an action.

Jane (where is Jon Corzine?)

NBC should be run out of town. Instead they will be invited to the White House.

So where are you today Dot?

Danube of Thought

We just docked at Bratislava, and are about to do a walking tour. Underway again at midnight; arrive Vienna tomorrow.

cboldt

I don't think a libel suit by Zimmerman would be much of an emotional drain on him. He can agree to have suits proceed on contingency basis.

NK

Lat week I commented several times that the lasting message of this tragic killing will be how it hurt Obama in the election, and how it killed the credibility of the Legacy Media, much like the NBC exploding pick-up truck. Sure enought that 'real story' has begun. The legacy media worked to regad the silly trust of a whole generation of gullible millenium kids -- that'll be gone soon. Love it.

Cecil Turner

If he wants [some of] his reputation back, a lawsuit is a good place to start.

Captain Hate

The lack of any calming statement by the "post-racial" imbecile in the White House other than his typically self-centered mention of his resemblance to the victim reveals his unfitness for the job. He's had multiple opportunities to do the responsible thing for the good of the country and dropped the ball every time, ostensibly because he didn't see any personal advantage in doing so. This reveals a personal failing much more disqualifying than his ineptitude at the formal items of doing the job.

Jane (where is Jon Corzine?)

This is off topic but fabulous.

O'Keefe's latest video is of a guy going in and asking for Eric Holder's ballot, and getting it - no ID necessary. (The real Eric Holder.)

Danube of Thought

I am just uncertain whether a libel has occurred, though I suppose some sort of "false light" theory might fly. Interesting that NBC has not apologized to Zimmerman.

Captain Hate

Jane that deserves it's own thread (or series of threads). Stedman may want to go back to massaging Orca's bunions to get his self-respect back.

Jane (where is Jon Corzine?)

I dunno DOT, I rarely disagree with you on legal stuff, but what has gone on with Zimmerman is clearly a malicious misrepresentation. I'd take that case.

Ignatz

--"While of course I have no way of knowing, it seems to me the botched editing was not an intentional attempt to smear George Zimmerman."--

Can someone show me one instance of one of these unintentional 'botched editings' or 'miscues' or 'failures to fully vet a source' or 'reliance on unsubstantiated claims' or any of the other myriad excuses these hacks come up with benefited a conservative or a Republican?

Chubby

thinking about Sarah's link re the visit to the 7/11 and the time differential has me wondering if perhaps Martin was lost and disoriented? It was dark, the community was new to him and all the houses looking basically the same. (That has happened to me. Not everyone has good sense of direction.) Perhaps being lost, in addition to being "followed" would have made him feel paranoid and that would have sadly triggered an irrational impulse to defend himself by going on the offense.

yeah that will happen

chubby,
I am with you on this. I am not saying Zimmerman is a racist and guilty of murder.

But what you said could be true. Perhaps TM started back to the apt. complex but went the wrong direction, turned back found the complex but frankly they all look the same possibly in the dark and rain he was weaving in and out checking addresses because he didn't know where he was. Then Zimmerman comes upon him, maybe scares him a bit he reacts violently, possibly in self defense himself and the rest ensues. Just a whole lot of unfortunate circumstances coming together to end in tragedy for both of them. jmho of course.

Extraneus

I'd like to see Zimmerman sue NBC now, before the Corey thing is completed and this gets lost in the noise. Libs will react with righteous indignation, forcing certain "news" outlets to cover the gross behavior of Brian Williams and his team of lefty foot-soldiers, and there's no way to cover this that makes NBC look good.

Rob Crawford

If nothing else, they've clearly committed reckless endangerment. Their purposeful lies put his life and the lives of others in danger.

clarice feldman

Don Surber thinks Sharpton was a no show because even he sees the case collapsing under the spotlight. I also wonder if his media consulting position which pays him real money wasn't in jeopardy if he went on with it.

narciso

What's that line that ends in 'enemy action' I didn't take that pattern, but it's like with Julianne's bender, there was contemporary photographic and even subsequent testimonialrebuttal, in addition to plain common sense,but that didn't serve 'the narrative' as for Uhrig, he has more of a skill set, then Sonner, in that regard.

All points to the soccer scrum against Bill Lee, that was unwarranted, because they had
to make the 'perception of impropriety' stick.

Extraneus

Big Red Letters at Drudge:

WHITE MAN OFFERED ERIC HOLDER'S BALLOT

I'm proud to be a Project Veritas sponsor. (Their site is down right now... Good for James O'Keefe.) Best political donations I've ever made. Real, tangible results.

Extraneus

CNN? Tsk, tsk...

During Sunday’s broadcast of “CNN Newsroom,” correspondent Susan Candiotti — the reporter covering the recent shootings of five black men in Tulsa, Okla. — used a racial slur on live television.

Candiotti used the “n” word while reading aloud what one of the suspects in the shooting, 19-year-old Jacob England, wrote recently on his Facebook page.

“Now, this, according to relatives, has troubled him ever since and CNN has also discovered what police have,” Candiotti said. “There was a Facebook posting made just the other day, written by the suspect in this case, that police are examining.”

“And it reads like this: ‘Today is two years that my dad has been gone, shot by’ — and please excuse the language, it’s very sensitive — ‘Shot by a fucking nigger. It’s hard not to go off between that and [England's fiancée] Sheran.’”

At the end of Candiotti’s segment, “CNN Newsroom” anchor Fredricka Whitfield apologized to viewers for the slur.

“Susan Candiotti in Tulsa — and we apologize to our viewers for such profanities being used on our air,” Whitfield said.

Danube of Thought

Minus 17 at Raz today.

Leads Romney by 2.

Janet

I thought of your support, Extraneus when Jane linked that story.
Best political donations I've ever made. Real, tangible results.
I love that. I would give to start up a new TV network too... a Breitbart Network.

Captain Hate

The Atlantic still running with the Saint Trayvon picture when he's just older than a baby in swaddling clothes? Do they run one of Sully where he doesn't look like a fat slob?

narciso

Of course taking David Brook's word on anything is a bad call,

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/conservative-confusion-over-obama-and-social-darwinism/255560/

if Holmes was denouncing Spencer in 1905,in
'Lochner' obviously it didn't take Hofstadler
to publicize in 1944,

NK

Clarice-FYI-- back in the day Rev-Al bailed on the Tawana Brawley clan before the 2 street lawyer-hustlers and segments of the NYC media. AND that was before Rev-Al had a paying cable gig. Rev-Al is a shameless hustler-- but stupid he's not.

Captain Hate

Al bailed on the Tawana Brawley clan before the 2 street lawyer-hustlers and segments of the NYC media.

He still was found guilty of slander against Pagones, along with fellow lunatics Maddox and Mason. But Al, ever the lowlife, never paid his share of the damages.

Melinda Romanoff

NK-

I would say that he's not stupid enough to stick around for the full frontal Biff Tannen. He still was stupid enough to pick up the S^%t Stick from the dirty end in the first place.

Janet

Some shows -
*Project Veritas - hosted by James O'Keefe. Uncovering lies.
*What's So Great About America - stories of why immigrants came here
*Streamline - stories of small business owners & entrepreneurs trying to navigate the red tape in different cities & offering solutions.
*A TMZ-like show following politicians & journalists. Highlight the cronyism & connections.

jwest

Looking for a little help…

Although I’m the only person in the world interested in this, I would like to ask some of the better researchers here how to get access to video that I believe was deliberately edited in a misleading manner by MSNBC.

The morning after ABC released the video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station with the narrative that he had no apparent injuries, all the other networks picked up on the story. ABC and everyone else ran the video in its entirety, which showed an officer looking at the back of Zimmerman’s head. Everyone, that is, except MSNBC.

Starting with Morning Joe and moving along through the subsequent shows until Jansen & Co., an edited version was shown that cut out the portion of the officer looking at his head. I’ve been trying to find the edited video, but to no avail. Naturally, I can find all the other videos, from CNN, ABC, CBS and even NBC and MSNBC, but not the one that is edited. When I do find an embedded video on one of the programs I believe showed the edited version, I get a message that the video is private.

http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10924813-george-zimmermans-father-says-trayvon-martin-threatened-to-kill-his-son

Since all the other videos are available, why is this one private and how do I find a way to view it?

Extraneus

You've got talent, Janet.

narciso

I think the Daily Caller picked up on, as well as Breitbart, jwest,

James D.

I'm glad that the proprietor here reads the NY Times and pays attention to the Today show and other assorted drivel, because I am rapidly losing the stomach for it.

I pretty much think at thispoint that the people who write for the Times, and the WaPo (and the Atlantic, as linked in a couple of comments above) and the folks who believe what is written there, must be living in a parallel universe.

There's just no way to reconcile the conversations here and the things I observe in the world, with what's reported by the MSM.

It goes beyond lying, or simple lust for power. It seems like most of them really and truly believe the crap they spew out.

Extraneus

John Fund on the latest Project Veritas sting:

Note that O’Keefe’s assistant never identified himself as Eric Holder, so he was not illegally impersonating him.

Nor did he attempt to vote using the ballot that was offered him, or even to accept it. O’Keefe has been accused by liberals of committing voter fraud in his effort to expose just how slipshod the election systems of various no-ID-required states are, but lawyers say his methods avoid that issue. Moreover, he has only taped his encounters with election officials in jurisdictions that allow videotaping someone in public with only one party’s knowledge.

This is one reason why O'Keefe needs money.

narciso

Here we go, but even the DC doesn't make it easy to find it, you have to know what you're looking for;

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/police-surveillance-video-of-zimmerman-may-show-head-injury/

Janet

I think a lot of it is laziness, James D.. The MFM is fed news stories by lib flotsam out there.
Just like Congressmen don't write legislation anymore...it is lib flotsam that puts it together for them & they just are the salespeople.

Janet

jwest - here is a post on the video at Conservative Treehouse.

jwest

Narciso, The Daily Caller article you linked to has the embedded video that shows the officer touching Zimmerman’s back, wiping his hand on his pants, then looking at the back of his head.

This is the full video that ABC released and tells the whole story. If MSNBC had run this, I wouldn’t have any problem. What they did run during the programs I mentioned was an edited version, in which the portion of the officer touching Zimmerman’s back and looking at his head was cut out. I am assuming that this was edited because it conflicted with the storyline that there were no apparent injuries.

Now, the videos embedded at the shows I believe ran this edited version are marked “private”.

narciso

They lie, Jwest, we've seen this in other instances, and one struggles to keep up, the scenario is much like Tom Wolfe prophesied
a quarter century ago in 'Bonfire'

Captain Hate

This is one reason why O'Keefe needs money.

The sad fact is that Stedman can make O'Keefe's life very unpleasant if he decides to do so. The left loves to claim that they're for whistleblowers until they're the ones in power. Ask Linda Tripp what the penalty is for telling the truth.

Gus

I haven't read every comment, hopefully I am the first to comment on Tom Maguires FILTHY FILTHY LANGUAGE!!!

BONUS FUQ?????

I am offended.

jwest

What makes this editing of the arrival video significant is that the officer who searches Zimmerman and subsequently looks at the back of his head is a receiving officer who met the squad car as it pulled in. This is about 40 minutes after the incident, and the officer in question has not read the yet-to-be-written report that mentions the injuries. He had no way of knowing of any alleged injuries except what was physically apparent to him.

Obviously, if the narrative was that Zimmerman had no apparent injuries, what is the officer doing looking so intently at the back of his head? It is my contention that the producers at MSNBC noticed that this portion of the video conflicted with the storyline and decided to remove the offending few seconds so that their viewers weren’t confused by the facts.

More importantly, if this edited video can be found and traced back to the source of who made the cuts, it could help show there was a pattern of deceptive editing throughout NBC/MSNBC that was tolerated, if not encouraged, by management. If this theory is correct, it would explain why whoever edited the video went back and “disappeared” it.

NK

MelR said: "He still was stupid enough to pick up the S^%t Stick from the dirty end in the first place."

True enough, but the dirty end of the "Stick" IS Rev-Al's stock in trade, just like any other race hustler. Rev-Al manages to grease the white lib reporters just enough to dance away through the raindrops, then repeat the same sorry street theater next time. Today, he's got a seven figure MSNBC gig 15 years after he instigated a race lynching at Freddie's Shoe Mart. Rev-Al's got manipulative talent, no denying that.

NK

CaptHate-- the difference between O'Keefe and Rev Al are their respective audiences. When Rev-Al is exposed as a violence instigating race hustler, his black audience doesn't care and his white Lib audience looks the other way and chalks up the criticism to 'racism' PLUS the media covers for Al. O'keefe will get squashed by Holder at some point when he does something using real bad judgment. At that point, O'keefe's audience will abandon him, because we are law abiding rules following folks, and we'll all say tsk tsk, that wasn't right. Then the media will pile on and make O'keefe's bad judgment a major story. It's a huge competitive disadvantage for the Right.

Bob

NBC stated in the Reuters interview that the edit was made to fit the tape into a very narrow time slice of the broadcast. While that excuse might fly once (they had to cut 2.3 seconds or some similar baloney) it does not work so well with multiple uses of the edited tape on multiple programs. The fact that it was edited by the Miami local station first who then got a Jay Carney quote from the WH on how horrible the quote was once edited further shows intent to inflame with the approval of the WH.

Frau Ostermontag

"At that point, O'keefe Derbyshire's audience will abandon him, because we are law abiding rules following not racist folks, and we'll all say tsk tsk, that wasn't right. Then the media will pile on and make O'keefe Derbyshire's bad judgment a major story. It's a huge competitive disadvantage for the Right."

fdcol63

" ... What makes this editing of the arrival video significant is that the officer who searches Zimmerman and subsequently looks at the back of his head is a receiving officer who met the squad car as it pulled in. ..."

jwest, what makes you say this? How do we know that this officer is just a "receiving" officer and not one that was on scene, too?

jwest

In the video, we can see that this particular officer is waiting as the squad car comes into the station. The officer that drove gets out of the vehicle and moves around to the trunk while the receiving officer searches Zimmerman.

I probably didn’t word the original statement very well. My point of the whole editing of the video is that MSNBC cut out the portion that officer looked at the back of Zimmerman’s head, as that didn’t fit with the narrative they wanted. No other network edited the tape that way.

Now, the edited video is missing - hidden beneath a “private” label.

fdcol63

jwest, I agree with your main point.

However, unless other informatiom is available to contradict my belief, I think this particular officer very well could have been an officer who had been on scene, perhaps a backup officer to the primary responding or reporting officer, and who went to meet that officer or the transporting officer with GZ in the SPD's Sally port for GZ's questioning or to complete his paper work.

He could have been already aware of GZ's injury, and was just checking to make sure the bleeding was still stopped or whatever.

Annoying Old Guy
What's that line that ends in 'enemy action'

"Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action."

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