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Richard Aubrey

The issue is not The Talk. The issue is that so many people act on the subjects as Derbyshire suggests.
To be completely non-Derbyshire would require the non-D types to accept the risks that D tells us are associated with blacks. Now, you can insist there are no such increased risks. Fine.
Or you can insist that, whatever the increased risks may be, nobody should talk about them.
Or you can pretend that you left Atlanta in advance of Freaknik because, like, totally, you had a friend with a place on Lake of The Ozarks.

rse

Ah Richard-so you remember the game of shifting from one moving car to another via the sun roofs too?

My youngest has a very diverse group of friends and got it in her head several years ago that using the expression "Black" as an adjective instead of African-American was wrong and disrespectful. I disagreed. So she polled all her high melanin level friends to get their reaction. They agreed with me.

It was a good lesson for her. Her friends were more interested in respect than PC descriptions and AA seemed a bit stilted to them as well.

Les Nessman

"...it's just that actually saying it out loud is out of the mainstream."

Maybe it shouldn't be out of the mainstream.
Or was Holder right; we're a nation of cowards on the subject of race?

rse

Luxury good indeed. Red was at dinner with one friend coping with rejections throughout the ivies despite great credentials. Other friend was already in at Dartmouth and princeton. He gets a text message at dinner and starts smiling. They get him to fess up-Stanford saying yes too.

And I agree with you Tom. The iq point is not helpful. Mandated poor reading instruction really hits those kids whose parent or parents cannot afford or do not know how to tutor themselves.

The Coleman report is being used now to say if academic ability is tightly tied to SES, it's discriminatory for schools to focus on academics.

Everybody loses except the unions with more employees.

narciso

Such notions do offend me,rse, it is the flipside of Sharpton's and Bell's paradigm, and this nation cannot long survive under those types of beliefs.

Les Nessman

"...could we please, PLEASE have a sense of proportion? The black parents' talk is intended to save their son from getting arrested or shot by wary police officers. Mr. Derbyshire is hoping to hasten his children's trip through DMV."

Really? You think it was merely about a trip to the DMV and not a general life-lesson? Geez.

Frau Steingehirn

I read several articles of "The Talk with my black sons about behavior outside our neighborhood" type right when Trayvon Martin was killed. I thought the articles uncalled for especially since the writers were all presumably well-educated and not living in inner-city neighborhoods. The men writing were obviously aware of their roles as fathers. We'll never know if Mr.Martin ever gave The Talk to Trayvon

I guess that John Derbyshire took Eric Holder by his word and decided to show that he,
Derbyshire, is no coward when it comes to discussing race. He gave his version of The Talk and is being ostracized.

It's safer to stick with "Obama's clean, bright and articulate."

hit and run

Frau:
It's safer to stick with "Obama's clean, bright and articulate."

Safe or not,it's not really controversial at this point.

Obama is dirty,dim and inarticulate.

sbw

What matters is individual. One on one.

Racism is ignorant over-generalization.

Racism is also intentional over-generalization: e.g. Eric Holder.

justwondering

The Real Talk White People Have With Their White Kids About Interactions With Police:

"If you get stopped by a cop, be respectful, do what they say to do, and keep your fucking mouth shut, you little punk. You got me?"

Yes, Sir.

Black people require nothing more than this?

Finally, the first rule of The White Talk About Black People ... is that you don't talk about the white talk about black people.

Threadkiller

Mr. Martin's talk with Trayvon might be surmised by his reaction when Tray was a no show in the morning.

They called the local juvie to see if he was "picked up."

Steve

He should not have written the part about IQ. That has no importance when advising someone about how to stay safe around people of an ethnic group.

rse

A neighbor who is a serious criminal defense lawyer made sure my kids knew to never, ever, say yes if the police ask if they can search the car.

Adamant on that point.

narciso-I know where this is all supposed to end up. Had gore not lost in 2000 though there would have been no stopping this. Probably required kerry losing in 2004. We decoupled from rest of world so once you understand you can look elsewhere and it's like having a crystal ball watching the finish line while the athletes are getting in their blocks.

Cecil Turner

Well, I presume he's riffing off this post which purports to talk to young black boys. The most egregious bit is this (relating to safety):

You will have to make allowances for other people’s racism. That’s part of the burden of being black.
Which is more than faintly ridiculous, since white-on-black homicide is the least likely of the four racial permutations.

Threadkiller

Kathy Griffin offer a solution for (10d):

"Griffin at the Apollo. This past week, the episode aired on Griffin’s Bravo hit show, My Life on the D-List, and for someone who was there – I am a lil’ confused. The power of editing!

First, the audience was 70% white and the show made it look like the audience was predominately black. It was actually the whitest audience I have ever seen at the Apollo and I have been there countless times over the years."

http://claycane.net/2009/07/23/kathy-griffin-at-the-apollo-d-list-confusion/

BYOW

Ralph L

So what's in the Black Talk?

DebinNC

So what's in the Black Talk?

I read two of the links. One talk mentioned keeping hands of pockets, and one mentioned not letting their black kids buy water pistols because racist police will shoot them dead.


Eric in Boise

Rich Lowry just canned Derbyshire over at NRO.

DebinNC

I'm adding this scenario to my ongoing "talk", but making it an equal-opportunity, racially neutral warning.

Bruce

"Mr. Derbyshire is hoping to hasten his children's trip through DMV."

Thanks. I've been spending too much time reading too many blogs. Thanks to that line, you are now off the list.

Idiot.

Threadkiller

What took Lowry so long? This Derbyshire clown showed his birther colors a year ago.

http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2011-04-29.html

Extraneus

I've only had one thing to say to my son about this issue, and I've done it several times. The focus or my advice relates to Affirmative Action. Sorry, but my advice is to be wary of black and Hispanic doctors and other professionals who may very well have gotten where they are, not by the content of their character but by the color of their skin (or the language their grandfathers spoke).

I wish this weren't so, in particular because I know a number of seriously brilliant black people. (Just interviewed one yesterday, in fact - a Kenyan PhD, from Kenya, who I knew in a past life.)

The taint of AA is extremely unfair to truly deserving minorities, but it's a fact of life in America, and one would be a fool not to point this out to one's children.

DebinNC

That Tulsa story is horrible. Sounds like a serial killer targeting black folks outside. I bet we'll see a great coming together of blacks and whites to get the guy.

Ralph L

Deb, that perp looks as safe as kittens.

Jane

Rich Lowry just canned Derbyshire over at NRO.


I hope not, he's a pretty great guy.

"...it's just that actually saying it out loud is out of the mainstream."

Obama has done so much to hurt race relations. Before him it never occurred to me we needed "relations", people were just people. Now, given CRT and all the other baloney I have to wonder if every black person agrees that the constitution shouldn't apply to them, and that I owe them.

That's a sea change in my life, and a really bad one.

I never thought we'd have a racist president in this country, and I am very sad that we do.

Threadkiller

If white grandmothers give the talk to black children it is remembered a little something like this:

"a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

She didn't see him cringe? Stupid white people.

Ike

You mean that white grandmother who made sure he got an education in a private school? The one who tapped her network to make sure he got into Harvard? That mean, nasty racist woman? Yeah, her.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Rich Lowry just canned Derbyshire over at NRO.

Yep, proof you cannot ever have an honest discussion about race.

What all fathers should tell their sons, no matter the race, is that teenage boys get hassled, so they better be watching their Ps and Qs. You smart off to a cop, you are going to get hassled. If you are loitering, especially in a group, you are going to get hassled. If you are out late at night with no obvious reason to be where you are, you are going to get hassled.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

That's a sea change in my life, and a really bad one.

Jane: You are not alone.

What really gets me is how much I'm finding out that these young black kids are being indoctrinated with hate against their white friends and neighbors. They hear it at home, in church, and in their communities. Suddenly, we are all pulled into some race war that we didn't even know was in progress or thought was long over when we were still teenagers or younger.

Tom Maguire
Really? You think it was merely about a trip to the DMV and not a general life-lesson? Geez.

It's not about safety unless you are stopped by a black cop or about to be saved and can choose between the black or white fireman. Or doctor. Or nurse. Hmm...

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I say, if you don't want me to be afraid of you and you want me to respect you, then pull up your damn pants, don't go tatting yourself up with gang tats, lose the doo rags and the chains, and the attitude and speak a language that I can understand, not some pigeon English, Ebonics, or jive talk. And I say that to you whether you are AA, Hispanic, Asian, or white as the driven snow. And don't call me a honky cracker beeatch either.

DrJ

Rich Lowry just canned Derbyshire over at NRO.

Well that's a shame. I read him every now and again, and mostly found him tedious though interesting.

IRC, he is English, and married a Chinese woman. And I've not seen anything in his NRO writing that is remotely racist. Nothing.

Jane

Maybe that was a joke. Was it Eric?

Ignatz

No it wasn't a joke.
It's in The Corner.

Ignatz

--IRC, he is English, and married a Chinese woman.--

I believe he's a naturalized US citizen now, doc.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

I'm off to buy my last supply of CADBURY EGGS before they disappear off the shelves until next Easter.

Have a HAPPY EASTER everyone. Don't eat the Peeps, save them for Peep dioramas. And remember, chocolate is good for you.

For all our Jewish friends, I hope you had a joyous Passover celebration. This is the first year in the last seven that I haven't gone over to the local synagogue to attend their open Seder meal, but did you know there are several online for those who are housebound or alone. Even Twitter had a Twedder.

Rob Crawford

IRC, he is English, and married a Chinese woman. And I've not seen anything in his NRO writing that is remotely racist. Nothing.

Dude let himself be beaten up by Bruce Lee.

wished it weren't so

It seems that liberals aren't the only ones with blinders on.

We have created an underclass. It's real. It's unhealthy. And it's very very violent.

And to pretend otherwise does NO ONE any good.

h

Read Derbyshire's piece. Truth is a defense against libel and slander in the United States. Apparently not a defense against charges of racism

Children aren't stupid. They realize from an early age that blacks are treated differently, and more deferentially then whites. Back about ten years ago went to a local water park in Rochester, NY. Went on a few rides with my young daughter that she could go on with me me, but was too short to ride by herself. Some other rides we were turned back from because she was a smidgen too short and fit under the sign. All the lifeguards were white (I can count the number of black lifeguards I have personally seen using less then 10% of my fingers), and black kids of all sizes were riding all the rides w/o adults. Not being stopped by the same lifeguards who had just stopped my daughter. Natuarlly, my kids asked why.

I told them the truth. The lifeguards were afraid for their well being if they made black kids obey the rules. Physical, mental, and financial. It's the truth. Wait, it is the TRUTH. A white kid in that position is risking everything if he attempts to evenly enforce the rules. If a black kid gets injured, its on the park owner's insurance. If the black kid shouts "RACIST" the white kid's life is destroyed.

I was cashiering one day at my part time job. A white customer hande me his unsigned credit card- I asked for an ID,a s per the rules. No problem. Next customer handed me an unsigned credit card, I asked for his ID. "YOU'RE ONLY ASKING ME FOR ONE BECAUSE I"M BLACK! was his response, just that loud. The customer behind him, in a deep voice said, "He asked the guy in front of you for his ID, now shut up and show him yours." The black customer turned around to say something, and saw a huge guy with a beard wearing a Harley Davidson t-shirt- a sterotypical bad-ass. Then he turned back and dug out his ID.

It is impossible for a white and a black to have a realistic discussion about race, because quoting statistics automatically makes one racist. And if you understand statistics, and you're non-black, you stay away from predominately black crowds. It's just the way it is. It doesn't make one racist- it makes one realistic.

Blacks, as a group, see racism in every action of a white. Blacks see themselves as black. I've never identified myself as a white. On that test where they ask you to list what you are, American, husband, father, job title, etc. are on my list. Same with the vast majority of whites. For blacks, one of the first five items listed is "black".

DrJ

Back about ten years ago went to a local water park in Rochester, NY.

Which one? Both jimmyk and I lived there for some years.

Gus

Can't we all just get along?

Dr. Detroit

Based on my years living in Detroit, I agree with Derbyshire's general points. I also understand that Rich Lowry is a spineless, nancy boy, so I can understand his response.

Those who are sheltered will not understand, until it's too late for them.

windansea

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/sanford-fl-police-deny-any-indication-of-neo-nazis-patrolling/

guess I better postpone that trip to Florida

a host of lefty sites is spreading this rumor and now Drudge has it up.

insanity

Jane

Boy I'm bummed out about Derb. I'm also bummed out about Rich.

Les Nessman

TM : "It's not about safety unless you are stopped by a black cop or about to be saved and can choose between the black or white fireman. Or doctor. Or nurse. Hmm..."

Or a college admissions board. Or an interview for a job. Or a boss at your job. Or how 'special' laws and regulations are set up for 'certain' people and not others. Or pretty much how anyone anywhere treats you in public. Or how you can be personally or professionally ruined with the wrong accusation from the right person; and you will become instantly radioactive to those who should defend you. etc etc etc

Yeah, I admit I don't know what you are talking about since you bring up 'safety' and I did not. (Yes, I know 'the talk' given to blacks is supposedly about safety when dealing with cops.) But Derb wasn't giving his 'the talk' to his black kids. He was giving it to his half white, half asian kids about what they could expect vis a vis race as general life lesson.

I also admit your snarky " I'll avoid what he is drinking" and "I disassociate myself from his remarks" ticked me off a little. It is a little weak and a little lilly-livered on your part.

Rob Crawford

Jesus, windandsea -- that Baltimore link is horrific:

"After the attack, people bragged about it on camera."

h

Seabreeze. Was my only visit there. Kids have been there on year end school trips.

narciso

In the days, before the Elian 'rendition' to Fidel, one recalls that the likes of Robert Windrem in MSNBC was putting out stories that Cuban militants were guarding the family, this rationalized the Mp-5, the full assault team in riot gear, that were required by the Efforts of then Asst. Atty General Holder,

Of course, when the tear gas cleared, there was nothing of the sort, 'sorry about that,
that would trigger the other big surge of the Cuban American commnunity vote that year, which almost matched the agitation
over the Affirmative Action restriction that Jeb had imposed,

DrJ

Ah. Up in Irondequoit. I never made it there.

While most of the Rochester area was pretty great, there were some parts where I realized that all the social cues I know would not be right. I did my business and left as soon as I could.

Captain Hate

She didn't see him cringe? Stupid white people.

If only she had a voice like a wind-chime.

gk1

Good riddance to "Derb". His writing style was so tedious,it was like listening to an old lady at a bus stop. I gladly skipped over his columns on the Corner. NRO will do fine without this guy.

Janet

Here is the Rich Lowry link - Parting Ways

I can't get through to the Derbyshire link.

DrJ

I can't get through to Derb's link either, Janet. I hope it still is around, since I'd like to read the "underlying" material.

narciso

Derbyshire even more than Krikorian, merely on immigration, has come to hold the Gotterdamerung position at the Magazine, in Islamists, and a whole host of other positions

Now lighting a match in a room full of gasoline, is not wise, actually probably pound foolish, but it is not an unexpected
outcome, specially when it comes to that entitled Greek shipping scion that runs that establishment,

Ignatz

Yeah, Taki has a somewhat 'whacky', shall we say, history.

I could open the first page there but not the second.

Yes, Jane.

He's as psychotic at Mr. Helter-Skelter, CM.
===========

narciso

He was the press spokesman for the Colonels in Greece, interesting work, and he's really
developed a nasty anti Israel streak along with toleration for the Castro regime.

Frau Osterhase

Derbyshire, if he were a Democrat, would not have been thrown under the bus. I guess Holder is right; we,are indeed a nation of cowards when it comes to race.

Are "old ladies" to be silenced? Obamacare will remedy that, and we'll all kow-tow.


Frau Osterhase

Jeremiah, the weeping prophet, was never removed from the Bible. What's going on that a man cannot express himself? We're not talking about David Duke or Robert Byrd. This is sickening.

(Another) Barbara

No more NR cruises for me; no more subscription renewal either. Rich Lowry can go to hell. (Apologies for writing here but I couldn't figure out how to put it on NRO) Bet Andy McCarthy's days are numbered too. He doesn't bend to PC either.

Janet

I just got through to page one but couldn't continue to page two. There were 1953 comments then.

I guess race is a forbidden topic nowadays....except when it is not.

AB

Other than the intelligence bits (which opens bottomless cans-o-worms that eventually lead us to angels-and-pins territory), I'm struggling to understand what Derbyshire said that was, as a practical matter, untrue.

It seems the problem is more the perception conservatives=racists. One, why should conservatives worry about it, they'll be called racists anyway. Two, there surely can't be any concern about the black vote, as conservatives will never get it. Three, most of the muddle probably reads the piece and says, "well, duh".

That an NRO rejects the discussion outright seems a pretty good sign that the conservative establishment has given up trying to change minds, no? They've let the race hustlers win, the cowards.

DGS

Unfortunate for Derbyshire. In a previous column he mentioned that he is suffering from the side effects of treatment for cancer. His described some side effects are frequently called "Chemo-brain". I suffered from it. One of the occasional effects of it is that you lose perspective of how things will be received by others. I wonder if his publishing the article is a result of this.

narciso

Well Lowry probably lit the fuse, when he chose to credit Sharpton, a little over a week ago, which was noted in that Ketman piece in the AT.

AB

Oh, and a specific "talk" to the children on this subject?

Kids start figuring this stuff out long before the parents are thinking a "talk" is needed.

Personally, I never had one nor needed one. It all seemed pretty commonsense to me.

DGS

I shouldn't type late at night. Here is a correction. - He described some side effects that are frequently called "Chemo-brain". -

Rick Ballard

Narciso,

It was a violation of the "Don't alarm the Fuddle." covenant within the lease agreement. The Lessee invoked the clause and Derb's gone. It won't be the last time we see them dance. The piper has been paid through November.

xbradtc

I just wish Lowry could fire K-Lo.

Janet

If we are ever gonna get back to "equal protection under the law" & content of character mattering rather than color, sexual preference, gender,...mattering - we are gonna have to have this conversation. There is gonna be hurt feelings & things that are hard to hear...but so what?!
From a recent Roger Kimball piece (referenced in an Am. Thinker article today) -

"The most effective form of censorship is also the quietest. It operates not by actively proscribing speech but by rendering certain topics hors de combat, literally undiscussable. It does this by propagating an atmosphere of revulsion and taboo."

I'm not saying the Derbyshire piece is good or that I agree or disagree...I haven't read it all yet.

Ignatz

--Unfortunate for Derbyshire. In a previous column he mentioned that he is suffering from the side effects of treatment for cancer.--

A friend knows Derb and has told me has some type of lymphoma which may mean Rituxin which is ordinarily fairly well tolerated, but I'm kind of guessing on that based on another friend with non-Hodgkins lymphoma. It apparently can be controlled indefinitely.

DGS

He is taking bendamustine. Trade name Treanda. I am not familiar with it. Based on his described reaction to it, it sounds pretty strong.

Ignatz

Never heard of it.
Wrong end of the cancer spectrum for me.

Ignatz

Apparently bendamustine is for a type of leukemia. Link says it has "low toxicity" which means little, since individuals all react differently.

narciso

It's seems the old Buckley flagship has gotten verklempt at the notion of any non
standard verbiage like 'death panels',certainly the issuer 'should leave the room' immediately


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2126379/Sentenced-death-old-The-NHS-denies-life-saving-treatment-elderly-mans-chilling-story-reveals.html?ITO=1490

(Another) Barbara

I know you are being kind, but please don't diminish Derbyshire's intellect and insights by relating his words to the drugs treating his illness. He's written on this topic previously (in his book "Doom," for starts) and often, and there's little doubt that he was perfectly aware of what he was doing.

You may disagree with his warnings about the effect on America of bringing in millions of new citizens from countries where the average IQ is in the 70s, where there's no cultural background remotely similar to the West's, and where technical skills are unlikely ever to be developed, no matter how many algebra courses are offered. I don't know that he's right and I don't know that he's wrong, but our great-grandchildren may believe we were ignoring their welfare -- and the survival of our republic -- to make it a forbidden topic to discuss and assess.

Well, Derb's in pretty good company. Wonder if he's met Dr. Watson.

Jane

AB,

Send an email to Jack. I plan to. If he gets enough feedback, who knows. If you need his email let me know.

And I need to check on those pesky olives.

godoggo

Wow, there sure a lot of white people here who are afraid to be around black people. What a bunch of pathetic dweebs.

(Another) Barbara

I would appreciate Jack's e-address, Jane. Thanks. I sent my outrage to [email protected], but have no idea who reads those, if anyone.

No worry about the olives right now. We leave for Japan in a couple of days and won't be back until some time in May.

Manuel Transmission

(A)B, let me know of you have some free time on this end. If you end up down at your son's, we can probably accommodate a common rendezvous point.

Have a great trip!

Mark Folkestad

I just sent a very strident e-mail to NRO, telling Lowry to go straight to hell. I've been getting irritated with his whiny, mushy demeanor for quite some time. He's no Chairman Bill.

Between tumultuous events in my life and JOM threads multiplying like rabbits, I've fallen behind in my reading here. Too bad. This place is valuable.

Last weekend I had to help my business partner cousin man a booth at a Wisconsin gun show. He was paring down his collections of guns and militaria. On the second day, I brought my hard-sided double gun case for him to transport two long guns and a batch of sabers and bayonets. We did the transfers to the big gun case out in his apartment complex parking lot. Some jerk called 911 and reported two terrorists in the parking lot planning an attack. We made it a block to a gas station that had a Subway shop, and my cousin went in to get us an early lunch. Squad cars surrounded us and the lead cop interrogated me in the van and then went into the shop to talk to my cousin. Once the cops saw that we were in full compliance with the law, on our way to a gun show, they laughed their heads off and gave us the terrorist language that had been used by the "informant". Grrrrr.

(Another) Barbara

Hey, Man Tran! Have been thinking about you and Missus M.T. the past few days, and made sure your e-address was on the laptop I'm taking along. I'll send you a dispatch or two along the way. We'll be in Japan for about a week, then at sea for 21 days -- ending in B.C. on May 6. Would be lovely to rendezvous, if possible.

reliapundit

here is a list a few high IQ non-blacks - i think more dangerous than any low IQ blacks derbyshire seems so frightened of:

karl marx, joe stalin, mao tse tung, adolph hitler, nick ceausescu, pol pot, bin laden... well, you get the idea.

anti-social and sociopathic behavior comes in many colors - not just B&W - and the very worst actors and agents of sociopathic mayhem were not your average ghetto black

african-american culture has certainly gotten cruder and crasser and more violent the last 25 years - as has pop culture as a whole. this and the disintegration of the black family and diminution of the role of the church in the black community - and the fact that it's been hijacked by left-wing race-baiters is the problem and not anything genetic.

i know whites who used to go to harlem to hear jazz in the 1930's and leave their cars unlocked with the keys in the ignition.

that was before the great society and the welfare state and postmodern leftism destroyed the black family.

the solution is not a race-war brought on by race-baiting by obama and sharpton and jackson and the nbpp - or derbyshire.

the solution is eradicating leftism and restoring the role of the church and of intact families.

that means ending quotas, affirmative action, preferential hiring and admissions, and allowing profiling.

and also smacking down pundits like derbyshire when the advocate collectivist policies that promote treating people as members of a group and not in their individual merit.

i should also like to remind people like derbyshire and sharpton that the overwhelming amount of crime committed in black areas are committed by blacks on blacks and not by blacks in whites who have mistakenly wandered in to a ghetto.

pointing a finger at whites as a whole or blacks as a whole gets us no where and advances nothing except hatred.

and that only serve the race-baiters like obama an sharpton.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

Wow, there sure a lot of white people here who are afraid to be around black people. What a bunch of pathetic dweebs.

Oh give it a rest. No one said they are afraid of black people. But, to be less that circumspect when confronted with a gang banger, a race baiter, or groups of roving yutes, you better keep your eyes open and be ready to run or defend yourself.

I'm not afraid of all black men, but I am afraid, very afraid, of one particular category. Why, because I was beaten, had bones broken and left with a lifetime disability and pain thanks to one. And he came within seconds of killing my 90 year old Mother. My prayer is that he'll die a long and painful death and then rot in hell forever.

If that offends you, tough sh!t!

Frau Osterhase

Thanks, Sara.

Eric in Boise

Eventful day.

Lowry fires Derbyshire. Justified? I don't know. A lot of people are upset with Derb. Others are upset with Lowry.

In Cali, a black man dies trying to protect his eight year old son from a hail of bullets.

In Tulsa, blacks are apparently targeted by a white man in a pickup, who reportedly shoots five and kills three.

Ugh.

Just as I'm ready to hang it all up, my two year old granddaughter Zoe runs in, hops into my lap, and cries "I love you, Papa!!"

Happy Easter, all.

caro

I am disappointed in NR. I was more ticked off with Ramesh for trashing Newt back in the day.

Glad you are back, AB. You were missed. Time passed,and I am all in for Mitt now.

Sara (Pal2Pal)

This is what offends me:

bgates

here is a list a few high IQ non-blacks - i think more dangerous than any low IQ blacks derbyshire seems so frightened of

You might as well respond to an argument of the form "drunk drivers are more dangerous than sober ones" by listing bomber aircraft.

the solution is not a race-war brought on by race-baiting by obama and sharpton and jackson and the nbpp - or derbyshire

A comparison as invidious as it is absurd. Did you even read what Derbyshire wrote?

that means ending quotas, affirmative action, preferential hiring and admissions, and allowing profiling

-because that sounds like him.

and also smacking down pundits like derbyshire when the advocate collectivist policies that promote treating people as members of a group and not in their individual merit

You know a word for "collectivist policies that promote treating people as members of a group and not according to their individual merit"? I'll give you a hint: You advocated it a sentence ago.

i should also like to remind people like derbyshire and sharpton that the overwhelming amount of crime committed in black areas are committed by blacks on blacks

If you read his essay, you'd have seen he mentioned that.

not by blacks in whites who have mistakenly wandered in to a ghetto

-and here you concede the bulk of his argument. It's reasonable to believe that rates of black-on-white crime, already much higher than the reverse, would be higher still but for the fact that white people tend to stay away from the areas where black criminals victimize people, and get into those areas only by mistake.

pointing a finger at whites as a whole or blacks as a whole gets us no where

Nor does mischaracterizing a single person's views.

tommy mc donnell

derbyshire's assertion that after affirmative action the black government employee will be less intelligent than the white government employee is not true. after affirmative action the government employees of all races are less intelligent. the purpose of affirmative was two fold: one, it is used by the white liberal politican to get the monolithic black vote by practicing the selective oppression of white people, second, it is use by the political left to do away with competence in employment. after you implement affirmative action rules you lower the standards for everyone. not just blacks. this results in the hiring of less competent, less intelligent people of all races. i saw this first hand. i saw affirmative action used to destroy the competence of one of the best fire departments in the country. it is what a leftist judge is doing right now to the best fire dept. in the world the FDNY. affirmative action is a disaster perpetrated on the country by the political left and should be abolished everywhere it has been implemented both in the government and private sectors as well as the educational establishment. it hurts everyone regardless of their race.

Dave (in MA)
Wow, there sure a lot of white people here who are afraid to be around black people. What a bunch of pathetic dweebs.
Danube of Thought

"there sure a lot of white people here who are afraid to be around black people"

In precisely the same way that Jesse Jackson says he is.

rse

tommy's statement at 1:55 is unfortunately an accurate statement on where AA in higher ed is in fact headed. Not as the inevitable outcome of the policies, but as the predesigned expressed (if you know where to look) intent in the first place.

With the accreditors as the enforcers.

tommy-my favorite tracking down of the authority for an alternative approach to ed that made no sense to me was to discover the research was based on what was being mandated in various government agencies.

I read the derb piece last night before I commented on the IQ part. If that paragraph had been omitted would NRO have fired him?

One of the points that needs to be raised is how much racism gets fueled in certain higher ed programs. Especially ed degrees. There are multiple sources for the proposition that only white women who also have a disposition and plan for action seeking radical political change should be getting ed graduate degrees.

Others are receiving doctorates in math or science ed because they have written that math and science as bodies of knowledge are racist and sexist constructs. They get the doctorate credential and a lifetime access to taxpayer funding in return for agreeing to gut the transmission of knowledge. To anyone.

Higher ed is thus teaching certain minorities to hate, filling them with erroneous beliefs and theories, and empowering them to mandate mediocrity for all. It's only fair.

Jane

I'm telling you, this is part of the plan. Divide and Conquer. I am very worried.

AB I sent you the address.

centralcal

Agree, Jane!

Welcome back (Another) Barbara and bon voyage.

Jane

I think the best thing we can do for the upcoming election is tout the Ryan plan. Romney is in, and Obama wants to spend the next 7 months talking about Granny going over the cliff.

That and jobs jobs jobs.

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