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Ignatz

--"That's a young man screaming."--

So 28 is an old geezer now?

Clarice

You are an ambulance chaser's nightmare.

George

I'm trying to come up with a scenario where it makes sense for Martin to be screaming for help, and coming up empty. Are we to believe that Zimmerman managed to catch up with a running and more nimble Martin, grab him and produce screams of fear from the teenager, by which time Zimmerman decided he'd had enough of his screaming and fired into him at point blank range?

Sure, if you believe that Zimmerman is a racist monster it makes sense, but not otherwise.

fdcol63

Can this thing devolve into any more absurdity?

Ignatz

--Can this thing devolve into any more absurdity?--

That question has been answered in the affirmative for a month now so I'd have to say, yes, yes it can.

Captain Hate

The dead horse flailing continues.

O/T Dr Yeeaarrrgh must've been self-medicating last night with something that doesn't give him that alkie skin-sheen on the morning after for his appearance on FNS; he still insists that El JEFe is in great shape regarding Bammycare and that striking down the mandate will be in his favor.

Btw am I the only person that thinks Santorum looks creepy when he smiles?

jwest

The Orlando Sentinel article with the two voice identification “experts” is fascinating. Why in the world would these people go out on a limb like that?

Tom Owen, from Owen Forensic Services LLC, said “"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," That is a pretty definitive statement for someone who apparently makes a living doing this. With the contrary evidence (John and the initial statement of the 13 year old dog walker) along with what is actually being screamed (“Help me”, not “Don’t shoot”), it seems likely that Zimmerman will be found to be the screamer.

When this happens, what becomes of every case Owen ever testified in? If I were the lawyer in any case he ever brought his “expertise” bear in, I would be getting my appeal ready.

Gmax

A 48% match with lots of background noise and admittedly severe limitations due to the transmission and recording systems?

I dont know what this does for the prosecution, but I would say a jury of peers is not going to hear " the voice does not vett you must convict"

Janet

Clarice's Pieces is wonderful today! Capitol Follies

"If the legislative branch really wants to be respected in the courts and public eye, it's time for them to actually start reading what they legislate , quit passing fancy mandarin-generated nonsense that the unelected, barely overseen executive branch fills in as it damned well pleases, and start repealing and revamping legislation which has ceded to the executive branch far too much power to actually do the legislative work that is Congress' right and responsibility."

No Regulation Without Representation!!

Danube of Thought

Minus 14 at Raz today.

Leads Romney by 1.

Threadkiller

If you are against Martin, you are a Skittle denier.

If you are against Big Z, you are a Zither.

Janet

and via Instapundit, I love this post & it's question -
Where Are David Brooks & HuffPo's William Bradley Getting Their Story Ideas?

It seems as if liberal flotsam is in control. They write legislation, they feed stories to the MFM, they are the MFM touted "experts",....

jwest

I forgot to add in the evidence that it was Zimmerman on the tape the contemporaneous statement he made to the police that “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.”

jimmyk

Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.

"Expect" or "require"? "Expect" makes it sound as if this is a high-quality test that should be a slam-dunk. I doubt that's what the guy was saying.

But the story ought to include a lawyer to tell us where the burden of proof lies and what the stadards for evidence might be.

As a statistician-type, I'd put it this way: The analysis should have as the "null hypothesis" (the one being tested) that the voice is Zimmerman's. You reject that hypothesis only if you're, say, 90% sure it's incorrect, since the burden of proof is to show Z is lying. This "expert" seemed to be doing it the other way around, saying it's not Z unless

I couldn't penetrate the jargon, but I were doing this test, I would put Z's voice through the same "filter"--record him shouting through a cell phone 20 yards away, or whatever it was, and then see whether what you get from that is of sufficient quality to learn anything from the biometric test. I have a feeling the answer would be no--surely not beyond a reasonable doubt.

Jane

I would guess Trayvon's purported girlfriend has some recordings of is angelic voice that could be analyzed.

jimmyk

That should have read "it's not Z unless he can be 90% sure it is."

myiq2xu

So let's say they find some clip of Trayvon talking and the same analysis shows a 46% match. Have they now ruled out both men?

jimmyk

I would also say that if whoever screamed actually pronounced all the consonants in the words he was shouting, it's probably Zimmerman.

Great pieces, Clarice. I have to say that Clement's reply here:

JUSTICE KAGAN: Wow. Wow. I'm offering you $10 million a year to come work for me, and you are saying that this is anything but a great choice?

MR. CLEMENT: Sure, if I told you, actually, it came from my own bank account. And that's what's really going on here, in part.

was brilliant. It totally exposes the shallowness of the left's thinking on "free stuff" coming from the government. And if he thought of that on the spur of the moment, I'm even more impressed. It's remarkable how few people think about where the money is actually coming from.

myiq2xu

Assuming that this case goes to trial and the judge rules that voice recognition evidence is admissible, I would expect the defense to bring it their own credentialed experts to say it was Zimmerman screaming.

There are prostitutes in every profession who perform for pay.

Chubby

if Jorge supplied a new tape with a sample of him replicating his scream on it, would that, if put through the gizmos, irrefutably prove it was him?

rse

At this point even if the story is absurd upon analysis, most readers do not analyze in the manner TM does. In print means true for most people.

Secondly a false but plausible story keeps the debate from seeming all one-sided now. Otherwise the extent to use this boy's death for political purposes based on race and emotion becomes painfully apparent. And the real story.

clarice-Thanks for covering that kagan exchange. As I noted to myself and alito apparently saw as well and commented on, the healthcare analysis on medicaid is quite analogous to education. You must adopt x policies to get money that the feds were previously providing without those strings. It uses money to bypass federalism.

One comment on the discussion with kathy on a previous thread last night. She accused us of not wanting to consult or learn from liberals. I spend most of my days in the belly of the beast reading what liberals say is the true intent for their recommended policies. I would be the last person to say I do not learn from liberals. In fact I even read their footnotes and bibliographies and then track down used the most relevant supporting documents for their policies.

And then I usually want to take a shower or at least wash my hands. Sometimes I sip wine while I reflect on explicit scheming.

So on another dismissive point she made, if I think many AGW pushers are global statists looking for a post-1989 control vehicle, it is because so many of them say so when they think only the true believers are listening or reading.

I don't wear a tin foil hat. With thick curly hair it wouldn't fit if I tried one. I don't go looking for conspiracies. But if people in a position to benefit say they are conspiring, here's the plan, and some of the participants, we do get to take them at their word.

myiq2xu

Did anyone consider the possibility that BOTH men were screaming and yelling at the same time?

jwest

Only a personal opinion, but listening to the 911 tape with the screaming, it seems to me that only one person is heard.

Clarice

Thanks, Jimmy and rse. Jimmy I agree that the Clement's reply was genius. Right to the heart of the matter. Yes, I am sure this was thought out ahead of time.

All the participants in the arguments spent days in moot courts where smart people anticipated the questioning. The govt did poorly I think, not because the SG wasn't prepared, but because he had no persuasive responses he could possibly have made .

NK

JimmyK-- many thanks for that Kagan/Clement quote. Clement is sharp and quick on his feet-- Kagan? not so much.

Enlightened

I said earlier that I thought GZ sounded effeminate - I think he would sound like a little girl screaming

And I bet there will never be a comparison voice test done using a TM voice message - his family knew it wasn't him and they can't walk that back now. I bet TM had a rather deep voice - his Dad dies.

OT somewhat - Is Sybilvia Nancy Grace's twin? Funny how closely the crap they spew is remarkably similar

Chubby

I enjoyed your Pieces this morning Clarice.

I'd like to see your cite that Jimmy posted above posterized. It would make a great piece of graphic art, big black letters on a white background, and up on millions of walls.

One more time:

JUSTICE KAGAN: Wow. Wow. I'm offering you $10 million a year to come work for me, and you are saying that this is anything but a great choice?

MR. CLEMENT: Sure, if I told you, actually, it came from my own bank account. And that's what's really going on here, in part.

Threadkiller

Wonderful Pieces, Clarice. This caught my attention:

"Let them stand in the well of the Congress and argue that the delta smelt means more to the world than the productivity of the Central Valley and those who live there."

Here is McClintock, on a different environmental concern, saying exactly that.(only 5min, watch to the end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_iEtH_WqHU


And here he is on smelt regulations:

http://mcclintock.house.gov/2012/02/opening-statement-on-hr-1837-house-committee-on-natural-resources.shtml


http://mcclintock.house.gov/2012/02/statement-on-amendment-in-the-nature-of-a-substitute-hr-1837-house-committee-on-natural-resources.shtml


http://mcclintock.house.gov/2012/02/on-the-rule-for-hr-1837.shtml

Enlightened

**his Dad DOES**

Danube of Thought

"Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent."

I don't understand that statement.

NK

Clarice@10:08 -- I agree with you entirely. Appellate advocacy isn't performance art-- it's answering questions persuasively-- conceding points that don't hurt you and hammering home your strong points. The poseur Lefties attacking the SolGen are comparing his and Clement's speaking styles-- OK Clement is especially smooth and verelli was choppy those days. But you know what, starting Tuesday morning the SCOTUS questions were playing out exactly as Clement hoped and verelli dreaded. That affects the lawyer's appearance. Verelli as SolGen can't pound on the table, so what can he do when things are going badly? I refuse to be optimistic about kennedy, but I can wish can't I?

Threadkiller

Ken Cuccinelli was on Hewitt this week as they played audio from the hearings. He said that Clement had no notes. He would just walk up and do his thing, without any reference material at all.

All I can say to that is wow, wow!

NK

TK-- if that's true-- I'm really impressed by Clement. he's not just smooth, he's incredibly prepared and sharp.

Threadkiller

Simple, DoT. The crappier the quality, the more accurate it needs to be.

Wait. What?

sbw

Excellent, Clarice.

And--attempting to deflect attention away from the pedantic lint analysis of navel gazing--he asks:

To read Clarice's summary of the genesis of the "law," why isn't Obamacare unconstitutional because it is vague, arbitrary, and subject to ex post facto interpretation. Obamacare is not so much a law as a placeholder for whatever those in power decide "health care" means after the fact.

Threadkiller

It is true that I heard Ken Cuccinelli say that, NK.

;-)

NK

OK- then when in legal call Paul Clement (wouldn't want to see the bill though)

NK

legal= legal trouble

matt

and last night, the First Lady of the United States allowed herself to be "slimed" on Nickelodeon. No respect for the dignity of her position.

centralcal

matt, matt, matt!

Slimed? That was the most positive thing about her "appearance." What in our dear Lord's name was she wearing?

That has to be one of her vilest outfits ever.

Utterly clueless. Utterly without class, or taste, or even self awareness.

Ignatz

--and last night, the First Lady of the United States allowed herself to be "slimed" on Nickelodeon--

Ew. I thought that was a kids network.

Chubby

((No respect for the dignity of her position.))

more than than, doesn't the fact that pelting adults with green slime is a high honor say something sad about kids today? We've regressed a long way from Lindley Murray, baby!

Danube of Thought

I have a hunch Clarice enjoyed writing that every bit as much as I enjoyed reading it.

Watch David Boies argue if you ever get the chance. He has no notes of any kind, and he never looks down at the podium. He keeps his eyes on the judges the entire time, while saying things like "this circumstance is not covered by Section 762(b); instead we have to look to Section 788(d)(3), which says blah blah blah..." Simply unbelievable.

centralcal

Well, Ignatz, she did take Sasha and Malia along for the show.

Janet

Obamacare is not so much a law as a placeholder for whatever those in power decide "health care" means after the fact.

Exactly, sbw.

NK

Boies-- I've seen Boies argue bland real estate litigation. He's so good, he makes it seem like the other side doesn't even have a case. He's the second best advocate I've seen in person-- the best? hate to say it, it was William Kuntsler.

Threadkiller

Has Michelle Obama had an adult life, for any actual "first times" to occur?

Ignatz

--more than than, doesn't the fact that pelting adults with green slime--

Oh, green slime. Never mind.

Jane

Clarice,

There was so much in that Pieces to love. I loved all the democrats at the beginning displaying their complete ignorance of the constitution.

That should be a campaign ad somewhere.

Ann

Good Morning Patriots

This FLOTUS can't leave fast enough for me:

Photobucket

Clarice

Jane, it should be. I wonder if it's all been videotaped.
Ann, you beat me to it.

Ann

We can only pray it is this fast:

Photobucket

RUDE

Enlightened

My eyes my eyes - WTF is that?

Ann

Unbelievable C, I am off to read PIECES.

Clarice

DoT, it WAS great fun to write and an opportunity to get something off my chest that has been making me angrier every year. I know the people who drafted those environmental laws and I slam them every time we meet for confusing "species" with large mammals and destruction of the US economy with environmental protection.
And for decades I have worked with lawyers who think that there are absolutely no limits to federal power.

Enlightened

And I was just off to grab some Pepto. I think ipecac is more apropos. To wake up and see that....sigh.

Danube of Thought

The beauty of it is that, at least until Kennedy lets us down for the umpteenth time, we get to see those arrogant assholes in a state of shellshock. And so far as I am aware, not a one of them--Greenhouse, Lithwick et al.--has yet answered the questions they never bothered to ask themselves before the arguments, and that the Justices put to Clement.

ThomasD

I'd agree that Owen just threw any shred of credibility out the window.

While a 48% match may be nowhere near the threshold needed to match a voice to a person, it in no way can exclude a person.

But you don't need to know much about acoustic analysis to figure this out.

Compare it to DNA analysis. DNA, although profoundly complex, is a entirely known, and limited system. The number and type of codons are fixed, so there are simply only so many ways to arrange them. Meaning one can describe with a very high degree of accuracy the limits of any particular match. It is analogous to the limited number of possible numeric combinations of Powerball tickets.

Audio samples collected from an open environment, on the other hand, can contain any number of uncontrolled, and otherwise unidentifiable artifacts. So, in principle the universe of possible alternatives is unlimited. Meaning there is no chance in hell you can this disprove, or otherwise eliminate any one particular person from being present via this form of analysis.

'Not a match' does not equal 'can't be him.'

Jane

OMG Ann, what on earth is that outfit?

Ignatz

I have a few reservations, not many but some, about talking about the first lady's stature and fashion sense, but that get-up is really something else.
Is that a saddle blanket her trainer tossed over her hips?

Frau Shikse

I forgot to add in the evidence that it was Zimmerman on the tape the contemporaneous statement he made to the police that “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.”

I want to be on jwest's team.

ThomasD

If it is a saddle blanket wouldn't it be better to speak of her hindquarters?

Danube of Thought

The insufferable Nina Totenberg reviews the arguments on NPR. Not much there.

Danube of Thought

Looks like something out of Mad Max or Rollerball.

Manuel Transmission

Clarice, 'cleanup in isle 13.'

Every Sunday, as soon as my eyes can focus, I reach for my phone and dial Pieces to get the morning off to a great start. Unfortunately, there is a bug in the formatting for smart phones that causes the text to be zoomed to a fixed (but random) size requiring the reader to scroll back and forth every line. I think the softies call that a loose variable. I don't know if you have your own copy of a formatted file you load your wisdom into, or whether they do it for you at AT, but it seems to be unique to your column. I emailed AT a couple of weeks ago, but no change.

Dave Turson

This reminds me of the brilliant expert who claimed OJ's footprints were left on the sidewalk of the murder scene, but it turned out the footprints in question were just imprints left in wet concrete when the sidewalk was poured.

PaulL

Think of the world class experts who testified for O.J. They were eager to mislead the jurors and did not seem to worry about risking their reputations.

Danube of Thought

Well, it certainly appears that the science is settled for this babe:

An Oregon University professor has controversially compared skepticism of global warming to racism.

Sociology and environmental studies professor Kari Norgaard wrote a paper criticising non-believers, suggesting that doubters need to be have a ‘sickness’.

The professor, who holds a B.S. in biology and a master's and PhD in sociology, argued that ‘cultural resistance’ to accepting humans as being responsible for climate change ‘must be recognised and treated’ as an aberrant sociological behaviour.
Controversial: Kari Norgaard is a professor of sociology and environmental studies at Oregon University

Resolving skepticism about climate change alarmists, she added, is a challenge equitable to overcoming ‘racism or slavery in the U.S. South’.


Read it all here--and check out her picture.

jwest

Here is the comment I just left at Ed Primeau’s website. He’s the other voice recognition expert cited in the Orlando Sentinel’s article.

1. Mr. Primeau,

However this turns out, everyone should admire your courage for putting your professional opinion out in public. Not being familiar with the intricacies of voice analysis, I hope you will go into as much detail as possible so that we can understand the science involved.

Considering that two witnesses at the scene indicated that Zimmerman was on the bottom during the altercation and was the person screaming, that he made a contemporaneous statement directly after the incident stating that “I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me”, that Martin’s father initially denied that the voice on the tape was Trayvon’s and finally, what the words being screamed were – apparently more consistent with someone being beaten as opposed to someone begging for someone not to shoot.

To be able to ascertain with the level of certainty that you have that it was Trayvon Martin’s voice on the tape in the face of all the contrary evidence is something that will, of course, receive a great deal of scrutiny. Personally, even if I possessed your knowledge and experience, I don’t know if I would have courage to place my entire professional reputation at risk.

Please continue posting as much information as possible about the specifics of this case.

Frau Aprilejeck

Ann @ 11:20, Pres. Assburgers had just said, "You're my closest ally and you're punchin' above your weight."

Rick Ballard

TM mentioned and linked it but if the contemporary statement by 'John',

"The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!' and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.

John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.

"And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."

confirming GZ's statement to the police isn't a hallucination induced by an overdose of Skittles, I don't understand the intent of the Orlando Sentinel in publishing this trash. It's just fill without value.

It's almost as if there were no such thing as journalistic standards.

Threadkiller

I have learned something valuable after going to DoT's link, despite knowing better.

If he instructs me to jump off a bridge, I probably would.

PaulL

Yes, Dave, the so-called expert, Dr. Henry Lee, was a real POS.

But FBI Special Agent William Bodziak, who analyzes footprints for the agency's crime lab, testified that what Lee characterized as impressions on the walkway actually are the tool marks and footprints left by the workmen who originally poured it. As it turns out, the walk--which previous testimony consistently described as tiled--actually is a poured slab of colored concrete inscribed and grouted to create the sort of faux-tile effect frequently used in so-called Southwestern landscaping schemes.

Of course the prosecution went on for hours with this and quickly lost the jurors, whose attention span was probably measured in seconds.

Clarice

jwest, very funny.

MT I don't know what can be done about that and I am sorry to hear of your problem. Have you tried hitting the print button at the top of the page to see if the print version ((you needn't print it to read it that way)is better.

Janet

from DoT's link -

"Kari Norgaard is a professor of sociology and environmental studies at Oregon University"

myiq2xu

Is voice recognition evidence even admissible? Will it pass the Daubert test?

The trial judge performs a “gatekeeping” role in excluding unreliable testimony. The United States Supreme Court first addressed the reliability requirement for experts in the landmark case Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 509 U.S. 579 (1993). The Court laid out four non-exclusive factors that trial courts may consider when evaluating scientific expert reliability: (1) whether scientific evidence has been tested and the methodology with which it has been tested; (2) whether the evidence has been subjected to peer review or publication; (3) whether a potential rate of error is known; and (4) whether the evidence is generally accepted in the scientific community. Id. at 592-94. Kumho Tire Co., Ltd. v. Carmichael later extended the Daubert analysis to include all expert testimony. 526 U.S. 137 (1999).
jwest

I can understand the Orlando Sentinel publishing this trash, but for the life of me, I can’t understand these two voice recognition “experts” putting their reputations and livelihood on the line.

This Ed Primeau, the second expert, says he stumbled on the link to the 911 calls while reading about this in Mother Jones. Naturally, the Mother Jones article makes it pretty clear Zimmerman is your typical White-Hispanic racist gun toting killer.

What could this guy and Thomas Owen, who it appears has even more to lose, possibly be thinking?

PaulL

Superb comment, jwest!

myiq2xu

and check out her picture.

I just had a flashback to my high school prom.

sbw

Isn't reading Mother Jones an automatic DQ?

bgates

Not much there.

Look at the quotes from Kennedy that she holds up as emblematic of the two sides (of his mind and the case):

Here, the government is saying that the federal government has a duty to tell the individual citizen that it must act, and that is different from what we have in previous cases. That changes the relationship of the federal government to the individual in a very fundamental way.

vs
In the insurance and health care world...the young person who's uninsured is uniquely, proximately very closer to affecting the rates of insurance and the cost of providing medical care in a way that is not true in other industries.

It boggles the mind that any adult American outside of an asylum considers those to be equally compelling positions. The latter is just a mess. "uniquely, proximately very closer"? Is there any reason to believe that a young person who's uninsured is "closer to affecting the rates of insurance" than in other industries? If so, is there any reason to think that's a problem? If there is reason to think that's a problem, is there any reason to think Obamacare will solve the problem? And if there is a reason to think Obamacare will solve the problem of a young person who's uninsured being uniquely, proximately very closer to affecting the rates of insurance and the cost of providing medical care in a way that is not true in other industries, is there reason to think Obamacare is doing so constitutionally?

By contrast, look at the former quote. If the Constitution defines the relationship between the federal government and the individual, and Obamacare changes that relationship in a very fundamental way, doesn't Obamacare have to be unconstitutional?

jwest

I just noticed that my comment on Primeau’s site is still “awaiting moderation”.

Let’s hope I sugar-coated it enough that he lets it through.

Frau Aprilejeck

And the prints that happened to match the "ugly-ass" shoes that OJ swore he would never have worn but was photographed wearing? I always liked that touch. The jury was more impressed by Dr.Lee demonstrating blood splots.

In this case, we already have Sharpton and Jackson as the Twin Devils of Deception.

Rob Crawford

confirming GZ's statement to the police isn't a hallucination induced by an overdose of Skittles, I don't understand the intent of the Orlando Sentinel in publishing this trash.

Incitement.

Frau Aprilejeck

jwest, I'm glad someone else remembers that Mr. Martin said on record that the voice was not his son's. 75k expected in today's march of FL no-peace-no-justicers.

btw - who get's Sharpton's salary from his TV gig? I thought he did not own-own anything due to the large fine he was given for his part in the Tawana Brawley hoax.

Ewww - scary TV of Hillary! speaking in her--choppy--cadence*--while--seated--with Saudi--official-- who decided to sit-- at the extreme-- other end-- of --the table.

*the result of speech lessons to eliminate her constant "uh" and "you know" from her speech when she ran for, uh, you know, president.

Danube of Thought

When I say "not much there," I mean she doesn't tell us anything we haven't been made aware of at great length. Those two passages are probably the ones most frequently quoted in the post mortems.

And yes, the first quote certainly suggests to me that the "fundamental change" mandates a holding of unconstitutionality. But this is Anthony Kennedy.

Ignatz

--It boggles the mind that any adult American outside of an asylum--

That would appear to exclude Dr. Kari Norgaard, if her picture is any indication.

myiq2xu

I would like these experts to pass a test:

Send them five sets, each set containing 1 recording of a person screaming and four recordings of people speaking in a normal tone of voice. In 4 of the 5 sets there there will be a match. In the 5th set there is no match.

Use blind testing methods and see how accurate the results are.

Ann

C, that was another masterpiece. If we could only demand the supreme court justices read it.

matt

Clarice;

Try this.

Down in Texas some ranchers have tried to make their places more profitable and imported endangered species of antelope like Oryx from Africa and Asia. These species are disappearing in their home ecosystems because of poaching, encroaching development, etc.

The Texas ranchers have nurtured their herds and these herds have grown through breeding by 400% in just the past 5 years. The antelope roam and seem to like the lack of predators and feed.

The ranchers charge hunters ridiculous amounts of money to bag some every year.

So now the animal rights activists are ramming through regulations to "stop the destruction of endangered species"

Wanna try and figure out the logic of that one?

Jane

Let’s hope I sugar-coated it enough

Speaking of sugar coating, I want to candy some pecans and I have no eggs or milk. Anyone have any ideas?

Danube of Thought

Crikey--Fox News Channel has been taken off DirecTv.

Danube of Thought

Why was Congresswoman Frederika Wilson wearing a pink cowboy hat?

Manuel Transmission

Clarice, this problem is exclusive to the 'mobile' version that the site automatically reverts to when it gets the request from the user's browser. Not sure whether the folks with iPads have the same problem. Knowing a little bit about software testing, I know that it is a pain to cover all bets. It may, for instance, work fine on a Blackberry, but not on an iPhone.

sbw

Jane:

1) look in your cupboard for a can of evaporated or condensed milk.

2) go to the nearest 7-11 and trade in some skittles for milk.

Cecil Turner

There's some youtube on Easy Voice Biometrics that shows how the software works. In the first, it matched two audios of Richard Nixon giving speeches (with some audio issues) at 86%. The third showed some disguised voice attempts (but with remarkably similar tone and speech) and matched at 90+ percent. None of them were close to the variation in screamed cries for help versus a relatively calm 911 call.

I have no idea whether the voice match reliability is sufficient to draw a conclusion, or whether the 48% number is consistent with the variation due to the known circumstances (stress, yelling, audio). But so far, color me unimpressed.

Jane

Oh I do think I have some evaporated milk. Nice job sbw.

I drove 102 miles this morning for peanut butter. I figure it cost me about $12 in gas. I'm housebound to make up for it.

henry

Clarice, the problem MT describes also happens on my iPhone. It started last week, and may correspond to a phone software upgrade. I don't have the details anyone would need to test / fix the problem. (hangs head in shame as software CEO who gets daily problem reports with insufficient documentation).

centralcal

Why was Congresswoman Frederika Wilson wearing a pink cowboy hat?

Because she is a rodeo clown? If you check out these Bing images of her, hats in loud colors and humongous flower pins appear to be her fashion statement.

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