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matt

the investigative police reports, statements, and forensics will have answered almost all of these questions.

Strawman Cometh

GMAX,
Does BEA calculate their own inflation and deflater numbers, or do they get those from another agency?

narciso

THat's a good question, oh the last link on the Wiki, is truly cringeworthy;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/20/AR2007052001407_2.html?hpid=topnews

matt

Keith Olbermann is questioning the ethics of Al Gore.

I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!

Sue

I heard on ABC News radio that it is been determined Trayvon is the person heard yelling for help on the tape. Anyone hear that somewhere other than the 'news' service that gave us 3 days in the morgue?

Rob Crawford

My guess is he had to be fairly close to Trayvon to hit him in the chest.

Chest is the default target for self-defense shooters. It's near the center of mass, has lots of vitals, and is a fairly large target. I have no idea how much training or practice Zimmerman had, or what Florida's requirements are, but my CCW class ended with us all "qualifying" with chest shots at 10 yards.

This is a confused situation, and poster podesta has a point when he indicates that some folks here ar all focused on the exculpatory evidence to the exclusion of everything else.

There is no evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's statement, so it's all exculpatory. The "evidence" that isn't are flights of fancy and bigotry, unsupported by the facts as we know them.

Rob Crawford

I heard on ABC News radio that it is been determined Trayvon is the person heard yelling for help on the tape. Anyone hear that somewhere other than the 'news' service that gave us 3 days in the morgue?

It was "determined" apparently by hired gun "experts" who learned all they needed about the case from Mother Jones. Oh, and they didn't have a sample of St. Trayvon's voice, so their conclusion is based entirely on their software only having a 48% confidence that the heavily compressed and distorted recording was Zimmerman.

narciso

If they were struggling, it was likely extremely close range, there are just gaps all around in this story,

Sue

Rob,

If anyone gets their news from ABC, then it is definitely Trayvon heard crying for help.

Rob Crawford

matt:
the investigative police reports, statements, and forensics will have answered almost all of these questions.

Yeah, but they don't give the right answer, so they can't be right.

fdcol63

This whole brouhaha is based on the assumption by the race-baiters that the SPD and the county prosecutor erred - either through negligence or willful complicity - in the initial investigation and determination of self-defense on the part of Zimmerman.

Cecil Turner

If so, he might be able to get away (meaning he might not hav the legal right to shoot).

Even if he were able to get away (from the obviously much faster Martin), it wouldn't affect his legal right to shoot in Florida:

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

interested

fdcol63-

Treyvon's father was notified the morning following the shooting.


Back at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, Tracy Martin and Brandy Green returned to her town house around 10:30 p.m. to find her son, but not his. Trayvon had gone to the store, Chad explained.

The adults did not panic. Trayvon was 17, after all. Maybe he had gone to visit a cousin in nearby Oviedo, or maybe he had met a girl along the way, and was chatting her up. Mr. Martin called Trayvon’s cellphone, but it went straight to voice mail. Then he called the cousin, who did not answer, but he expected the young man to call back. They went to sleep.

Early next morning, no sign of Trayvon, still. Mr. Martin called his son’s cellphone, which again went to voice mail. He then repeatedly called the cousin until he answered, only to share the distressing news that he had not seen Trayvon.

Now it was Mr. Martin calling 911. He reported that his son was missing, and then described what his son was wearing. Soon he was outside, meeting a couple of responding police officers. One of them took out a photograph of a dead body from a folder.


GMAX

Salena Zito in the Pittsburgh paper gives us this nugget that I had not caught (PHEW Polling being one of my least favorite pollsters ) but this seems extraordinary:

Voter turnout also may not favor Democrats: Recent Pew Research polling shows young voters now self-identify as Republican "+11," compared to "+32" for Democrats in 2008 -- so a high 2012 turnout on college campuses might not benefit the president as it did then.

Clarice

Victor Davis Hanson at PJMedia:

:1. If Trayvon Martin had been white, or George Zimmerman had been black, or had both been black or both white, there would have been no outrage: 94% of murdered blacks are killed by other blacks, to almost no national outcry. Just this past Friday in Florida, fourteen were gunned down (two killed) to silence (at a funeral parlor, no less), as the protestors of the single Martin fatality went ahead with further demonstrations.

Whites are far more likely to be murdered by blacks than vice versa, despite the latter comprising only 11-12% of the population — again to no national outcry. The distinction in this case was that Martin was black. Zimmerman was not. The rule in America is apparently that only rare white on black crime — not far more common black on black, or black on white, or white on white — is symbolic of larger pathologies, both past and present. In earlier decades of American history, the reverse was more likely true: black on white crime aroused public furor in a way white on white or black on black or white on black crime did not. That fact in time was accepted as clearly symptomatic of racial bias, but the inverse of that today is said not to be.

Captain Hate

Still banging this trollbait story to the exclusion of all more newsworthy topics? Tabloid blogging? Ok to stay on topic, FNS continued the MFM meme of showing the outdated photo of the youthful Saint Trayvon. Keep thinking Ailes is any different from the rest of the MFM and clowns like Shemp, Jerry Rivers and the Skeletor are just outlying points.

HB Mrs Iggy.

narciso

Grimm doesn't seem to understand this basic point;

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/2724962/how-a-small-town-mismanaged-a.html

My Adrian Monk hat still makes me wonder how
why the sister didn't contact her father, when
this happened, how about when he got home, neighbors must have told him what happened?

Jack is Back!

Since we're all CSI now, what do you all think of this take on the O.J. Simpson killings?

narciso

Well I linked Lynch's silliness earlier, Oh interesting from Richardson wiki, he's on the board of the nonpartisan center on civility at the U of Arizona, which 'unexpectedly' has
not produced press releases on Bill Maher and co,

FRONT TOWARD LEFT

The most useful result of this mess is that it has given idiots the golden opportunity to out themselves to the world by donning hoodies in solidarity with Saint Trayvon.

In the immortal words of the king of the idiots, "Don't think we're not keeping score, brother."

Ignatz

On Mrs. Ignatz's behalf I thank everyone for the birthday wishes.

On my own behalf I think I'll go do anything other than read another comment beginning with a detailed analysis of the cops' utter incompetence in this incident, said incompetence being measured by how inconsiderate it has been of the cops to not release to the writer all of their evidence and reports and a list of witnesses complete with address and phone numbers, followed by a line of sequential bullet points which are the product of some idle air-headed speculation about what "must have" or "most likely" happened.

It's idiots like this and their insatiable junior G man curiosity that explain why I can't watch television anymore because it's chock full of Sam Waterstons nasally droning endlessly on in their latest sermon, pencil neck David Carusos ominously whipping their sunglasses on and off and Mariska Hargitays solemnly poking some supposedly ashen faced, dead 10 year old actor who is quite obviously blinking and grinning because it tickles.

Sue

Jack,

Is Jason the son that was collapsing in grief when OJ was on his slow chase through LA? If so, I wondered at the time if the son did it and the father was covering. I don't now, but did for a short period of time when I wanted OJ to be innocent.

Extraneus

Florida woman, 93, reaches end of the road after 576,000 miles in her 1964 Mercury



She purchased the car in ... Sanford, Florida.

Coincidence?

GMAX

Straw

Its BEA's own "analysis" you can google around and see what non govt economists think of it.

narciso

So what will the SCAF do, in response to Shater's recent moves, will they go 'Algerian'
or agree with this latest strategem

Clarice

By coincidence I'm sure the WaPo also starts moving its thumb from the scale:

"WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — When he was shot, Trayvon Martin was not the baby-faced boy in the photo that has been on front pages across the country. And George Zimmerman wasn’t the beefy-looking figure in the widely published mugshot.

Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate. Yet they may have helped shape initial public perceptions of the deadly shooting.

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In an exclusive interview with The Washington Post's Sari Horwitz, Tracy Martin, Trayvon's father, details what the detectives told him about George Zimmerman's account of his son's fatal shooting.
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Trayvon Martin's parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, speak with The Washington Post's Sari Horwitz about how they first heard of their son's death, news of Trayvon's troubles at school and their reaction to Rep. Bobby Rush's (D-Ill.) speech on the House floor today.

“When you have such a lopsided visual comparison, it just stands to reason that people would rush to judgment,” said Kenny Irby, who teaches visual journalism at the Poynter Institute, a journalism think tank in St. Petersburg, Fla."

myiq2xu

I love the theory that Trayvon was screaming for help because Zimmerman was pointing a gun at him, then when nobody came to his rescue he lunged after the weapon in self defense.

Assuming those facts were true, Z is still pointing the gun in self defense and fires when T lunges for the weapon.

narciso
Melinda Romanoff

Ig-

How dare you denigrate the Sunglasses of Justice!

fdcol63

The MSM knows full well the impact that "lopsided visuals" make. And they know full well the impact that "subtle" and subliminal messages make, as well.

They do this on purpose ..... to advance THEIR agenda, not the truth.

Jane (Where is Jon Corzine?)

JIB,

That OJ article is interesting. It makes me want to get Jason in jail not OJ out.

Clarice

Well, it doesn't seem to be working as well now that there's alternative meeting which might explain why they are slowly walking back the cat. BTW how many NBPP readers vs. middle class white readers do you suppose are subscribers of the NYT and WaPo?

narciso

It's interesting that CSI Miami, was the only show that kind of tackled the F&F plot
line,'Sons of Anarchy' went all all moonbat, accusing the cartel to be a CIA front, meanwhile CSI classic, fracked up, on an earlier segment,

Melinda Romanoff

narciso-

CSI:Miami, and the Sunglasses of Justice, frequently cover the topical. And Sofia Milos.

And I think I'll leave it at that.

Strawman Cometh

Thanks, GMAX.
I queried about BEA here earlier, contrasting the reporting of numbers in Bush's term that were repeatedly revised upward (where up is good) where as from the earliest days in the Zer0 regime, the released numbers ISTM are always later revised downward.
At the time, I was informed (by whom, I don't recall) that the BEA numbers and methods were solid. I have a buddy, a college room-mate, in the BEA. He has made the reverse transformation, he introduced me to Ayn Rand. But after 30 some years as a Fed. Gov employee, he's a yellow dog D.
Any pointed comments I could send his way would be appreciated.

narciso

Why leave it at that;

http://www.sofiamilos.com/home.html

Rob Crawford

CSI:Miami, and the Sunglasses of Justice, frequently cover the topical.

I suspect the franchise will come to an end when investigations in NY and LV both point to Horatio Caine. Seriously -- CSI: Miami went over-the-board creepy when one of the shows ended on the implication that Caine was about to beat a suspect in the interrogation room.

Captain Hate

Treacher is quite pithy isn't he

Thanks for linking that; I haven't had that good of a laugh in quite a while. Who could've foreseen that combining three egomaniacal gasbags would produce such results in a short amount of time?

narciso

No, they always point to Ryan Wolfe, they've done enough crossover episodes,

Clarice

*alternate MEDIA* (good grief, my hands and eyes are lazy this a.m.)

Rob Crawford

Maybe someday they'll investigate "Dr. Grant Seeker" -- best modern scientist name I've ever heard.

Porchlight

I remember a couple of years ago reading someone making a plausible case that Jason Simpson was the murderer - I think it was at Patterico. But Occam's Razor says it was OJ - long history of violence against Nicole, bizarre/unbalanced behavior before and after, OJ's vow to find the real killer, etc.

fdcol63

Dr. Grant Seeker .... ROFLMAO!

JeanD

Sue,

I heard Gretchen Carlson (I think) this a.m. on Fox & Friends reporting that experts had "confirmed" that the screaming was TM, not GZ. So, ABC isn't the only source for this spin.

Hey Fox: Once you give up integrity, the rest is easy.

fdcol63

How do you confirm Trayvon's voice without a control sample of Trayvon's voice?

You can't.

Melinda Romanoff

RC-

That's a really good one.

Captain Hate

No, they always point to Ryan Wolfe

Poor Wolfe; he never gets the girl, exposed with a gambling problem and who knows what he'll be blamed for in the next episode....

If anybody commits an unforgivable crime, it's Caruso's over-acting.

Jane (Where is Jon Corzine?)

Is Trayvon a screamer?

If he was on top why not just run away instead of stay there and scream. Apparently the voice went on for a while.

Am I alone in thinking the whole thing has gotten a bit boring?

Rick Ballard

fdcol63,

The rap against the SPD has as much validity as the narrative concerning the size of the "boy" (wonder how St. Trayvon[pat pend] would have reacted to the designation). The response time was good, the responding officers followed procedure, GZ was removed from the scene (in cuffs) expeditiously, multiple witness statements were taken and the SPD investigator wanted a charge laid. The DA responsible is not part of the SPD and he rejected the investigator's recommendation and refused to charge. The SPD then released GZ, having no reason to hold him. They also suspended active investigation (assigning additional investigators or dedicating other resources to a further investigation), based upon the DA's decision. Were they supposed to expend resources as a defiant gesture of futility?

Jack is Back!

Not just F&F and ABC News but every radio and TV station between Jax and Orlando are making the same assumptions regarding the forensic voice indentification. Even WOKV the conservative radio in JAX - hosts Boortz, Rush, Hannity et. al. But have no interest in questioning the technique being used and the results. Its a given in the lazy, hazy ways of the mass media.

Captain Hate

Am I alone in thinking the whole thing has gotten a bit boring?

No, I've been trying to shame TM into posting some different topics for days; although since he ran BF I should probably be more supportive other than the other vermin this subject has attracted.

Stephanie

Why do they call it a Tebow instead of a Caruso?

Captain Hate

More people like Tebow, Stephanie.

Danube of Thought

ABC News:

ABC News has re-digitized video of George Zimmerman taken shortly after Trayvon Martin's shooting. The video was unveiled as an exclusive this morning on "Good Morning America." ABC was the first news organization to show the original tape. Reporter Matt Gutman said the clearer video shows "what appear to be a pair of gashes or welts on George Zimmerman's head."
pagar

The true reason behind all the indignation over one killing out of many:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/01/Obamas-Alinsky-Strategy-Whos-Next

Porchlight

Am I alone in thinking the whole thing has gotten a bit boring?

Perhaps, but the thing is, if we give up and let the established MSM narrative take over, they win. The only reason anyone in the MSM is walking anything back (to the extent that they are) is because so many people like our host are talking about this and examining evidence.

Stephanie

ISTM that the narrative of the TM/GZ incident falling apart doesn't distract the MSM from its work for 'social justice.'

Wouldn't a narrative for social justice be more 'authentic' when it is reported that the authorities have denied your claims... again? OMG the whole chain of justice is against us!!!!

They really don't want GZ arrested and tried. They just want TM as an image to rally for 'social justice.'

Seems like a win/win as far as stirring up the racial and underclass/poor sentiments.

Stephanie

Possible incoming attack by the moron herd. Ace has linked this thread.

henry

Stephanie, they stir up the other side as well. That may doom them. This article suggests the constant social justice beat is pushing things the other way -- at least in WI. Here it is the unions, plus minorities screwed by voter ID, plus our own castle doctrine shooting.

Jack is Back!

Pagar,

5. Demonize oil companies while gas prices are at near record highs.

6. Corporate jets.

7. The 1% need to pay more taxes - class warfare.

8. Koch Brothers - the war against private citizens.

I could go on but my head hurts thinking about it.

Darren

The other issue that supports a struggle for the handgun is that there was one round fired and a full magazine. I have not read for myself a report that the fired casing was still in the chamber, but if it was it means the slide did not properly cycle to eject the empty and strip a new round from the magazine into the chamber. A failure to feed (FTF) can happen for a variety of reasons, but a FTE (failure to eject) suggests that there were hands on the slide when it was fired. If the casing was still in the chamber, it supports Zimmerman's wrestling for the gun story.

Guy Manningham

This has turned into a circus, with Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and others promoting it as such. It's disturbing that the majority of Americans have jumped on the race card bandwagon and believe everything the liberal media tells them without doing their own research or letting the courts do their job.

Jim Ryan

Are we at the point that by objective measurement of post volume, TM finds the Zimmerman case more interesting than the Wilson-Plame Affair? I wasn't around here in those days, but I do know it was big, big, big here. Anybody?

Stephanie

True, Henry as evidenced here. But when you are force to make noises to keep your base stirred up....

Houston Sanford, we have a problem.

Besides, Stirring up the 'social justice' crowd results in the swings toward their side; because, they agitate and demand action. We just slow boil and take it out at the ballot box or are too busy to 'squeak.' We are learning but slowly.

Jane (Where is Jon Corzine?)

It's all a diversion.

WE should be talking about what the WH wants to divert us from.

Porch,

The MSM sucks but there still is absolutely no evidence.

jwest

I don’t think anything could compare to the heady days of Plame. JOM was in all its glory being the go-to place for accurate information and analysis.

matt

So the whole Nicky Haley tax fraud story was a fabrication? LUN

Has this country sunk so low that the mainstream press says nothing at all when Leftists resort to such lies time and again?

Pelosi creates a brouhaha that plays right to the Left's feminist base and the muddle with the phony Fluke scandal.

The Trayvon Martin case is a hopelessly out of control media circus.

What next for the Dems? When will the scales fall from the eyes of those who have been deceived?

Threadkiller

This is a Hell of a claim:

" In the course of the phone conversation with Hillary delegates, she recalled, Bill Clinton spoke of Obama as “the non-citizen.”

“In the world we were in, with [Hillary's] super-delegates and delegates, it just was, ‘He’s not legit –that’s the end of it, period, end of story.’ It wasn’t up for discussion,” Viviano said.

Michele Thomas, a Hillary campaigner from Los Angeles, confirmed to WND that she learned from “many people who were close to Hillary” that Obama “was not eligible to be president.”

Thomas led a nationwide petition drive among delegates to force a vote on Hillary’s nomination at the convention after then-DNC Chairman Howard Dean announced her name would not be put into nomination and Obama would be declared the winner by unanimous acclamation.

Viviano said that it was understood that Bill Clinton would eventually go public with his contention that Obama was ineligible for the presidency.

“He, I believe, was frothing at the mouth to tell the truth about Obama,” she said.

In the meantime, she recalled, the former president would make ironic references in public in which he “teetered” on revealing he position.

“He would go on camera,” Viviano said, “and jokingly make comments about, you know, ‘Is Obama qualified to be president?Well, if he’s 35 and a wink, wink, United States citizen, I guess he’s qualified.’”

She claimed, however, that Bill Clinton’s intention to unequivocally state to the public that Obama was ineligible was stopped in its tracks by the murder of a close friend of the Clintons, Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney, just two weeks before the Democratic National Convention in Denver.

Gwatney was killed Aug. 13, 2008, when a 50-year-old man entered Democratic Party headquarters in Little Rock and shot him three times. Police killed the murderer after a chase, and investigators found no motive.

The Clintons said in a statement that they were “stunned and shaken” by the killing of their “cherished friend and confidante.”

Viviano said a campaign staffer who was close to Hillary, whose name she requested be withheld for security reasons, told her Gwatney’s murder was a message to Bill Clinton.

“I was told by this person that that was ‘Shut up, Bill, or you’re next,’” she said.

The campaign adviser, according to Viviano, said that despite the intimidation and threats, Bill Clinton was prepared to speak out about Obama’s eligibility

“And then,” Viviano said, paraphrasing the staffer, “they went in and said, ‘OK, it’s your daughter, now, we’ll go after.’

“And then Bill never said anything.”

Others in the campaign who believe Gwatney’s murder was a message to the Clintons think it had to do with the fact that Gwatney was resisting an effort by the Obama campaign and the party to intimidate Hillary delegates into voting for Obama.

But Viviano argues that California delegates also were rebelling, and she says her source told her the same story two years later."

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/hollywood-producer-heard-bill-clinton-say-obama-ineligible/

Sue

Obama caused this to go national. Most people would have paid no attention if Obama hadn't commented.

Extraneus

Well, if my 14-yr-old son is any indication, some of the kids aren't falling for it either. Without any prompting, jr observed that the news reports were showing a pic of a 10-yr-old kid when everyone knows Trayvon was 17.

When I showed him the tatted-up middle-finger pic, he responded: "Figures."

Ignatz

In honor of Mrs. Iggy's birthday thought
I'd share this photo from a few years back I scanned a while ago. Not sure what was going on with mama's hair as she looks a bit like a parrot pulled through a hedge backwards but her and baby Ignatz are awfully cute together. This was right before a dance recital hence the Yankee Doodle get up;

Melinda Romanoff

TK-

Now that's Chicago.

Tom Maguire

Good intel. I put the ABC walkback of the "no injuries", the NBC investigation of "he looks black" and the NY Times 170 elephant in the room in one post. If there's anything I should add, tell me there, thanks.

Danube of Thought

she learned from “many people who were close to Hillary” that Obama “was not eligible to be president.”

What they purportedly "learned" is expressed as a conclusion. What facts did they learn that we don't know?

Extraneus

Awww. :-)

xbradtc

Tom M, a recap of the "qualifications" of Mr. Owens, Audio Expert! would be nice.

Captain Hate

Saint Trayvon and birther stuff in one thread. I'm officially in interwebz Hell.

pagar

[email protected]
I would rate the chances of finding a person in the Obama regime donation system that cared whether a donation was legal or not at ZERO.
http://news.yahoo.com/top-obama-campaign-donor-accused-fraud-204442621.html
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Meanwhile we have "just a guy in the neighbor of Obama" saying:

Today I’m gonna end capitalism.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/02/obama-pal-bill-ayers-gets-up-every-morning-hoping-to-end-capitalism/

A guy who shows up on the 2011 AERA Div B Curriculum Committee. In short, a guy who determines what any child in public school in America is supposed to learn says he "gets up every morning hoping to end capitalism." and very very few Americans seem to care.

http://tinyurl.com/7hpjert

Melinda Romanoff

CH-

Need any recipes?

jwest

I don’t know how easy it is to prove, but I was outraged by the MSNBC editing of the ABC footage of Zimmerman arriving at the police station.

For hours, they played the loop of that video with the portion where the cop looks at the back of Zimmerman’s head cut out. Totally intentionally deceptive.

Threadkiller

CH, it is a disease. I can't help myself.

Sorry.

Captain Hate

Mel, nope nor diet ruminations. I could use a good music discussion though....

Clarice

So, it turns out that IG is living with TWO good looking gals..Hmm.

Captain Hate

TK, at least your obsessions don't attract trolls; only the wrath of DoT, about which I'm not a stranger.

Extraneus

I would rate the chances of finding a person in the Obama regime donation system that cared whether a donation was legal or not at ZERO.

They'd care if Romney was beating them over the heads with it.

Porchlight

Look at those smiles, Iggy! Thanks for posting that.

Porchlight

They'd care if Romney was beating them over the heads with it.

But that might involve him lighting his hair on fire, so, no dice.

Melinda Romanoff

CH-

I got curious where that Mazda ad grabbed that particular version of Bo Diddley's Road Runner and found this little concert gem from 1961.

I bet THAT show was interesting.

Jack is Back!

OT: Clinton attacks SCOTUS as being political

Is this another one of those distracting "shoes" to drop. Keep the eye off the economy, the gas prices, the Volt, et. al.??

Extraneus

But that might involve him lighting his hair on fire, so, no dice.

Good point.

Threadkiller

I love that photo Ig! My youngest could be her twin.

Captain Hate

Is this another one of those distracting "shoes" to drop.

No, just more evidence that Clenis can't be trusted

Danube of Thought

Viagra has been running one with Howlin' Wolf's Smokestack Lightning as background (without vocal). That's from 1956.

Jim Ryan

Any legal eagles think NBC's editing of the tape could get Zimmerman a tidy little settlement $$$? Like Rush just said, Richard Jewel's lawyer could simply dust off his old case file.

Danube of Thought

Clinton trashing the Court as "political" just serves as a reminder of what trash he is.

Captain Hate

Question of DoT and other lawyers: When a commercial or radio show runs a song sans vocals, does that minimize or eliminate the royalties which are required to be paid?

Porchlight

Who was Jewell's lawyer?

Aha, I just looked it up. Lin Wood. Should have known that.

DebinNC

Wood specializes in defamation and won mega-bucks for Jewell, Gary Condit, John and Patsy Ramsey, but Herman Cain...nada. Nothing helps a campaign like the lawyer for a candidate running on his Christian bona fides assuring the public that the sexual relationship with a single woman that Cain claimed never happened was "consensual".

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