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donald

Them Ivy's sure do pump out the best and the brightest. And mendacity. Don't ever forget the mendacity.

Bruce

Tom - can you post interim posts a bit more frequently? I kept looking at the comments on your last post, and as they moved from 400 to 500 to now over 600, I kept saying to myself, Do I really want to dig through maybe over a dozen pages to get to what is happening now. And, being busy today, I didn't. It is much easier to keep up on new threads, esp., as with the last one, they are mostly non-specific.

Thanks

Gus

Elizabeth Warren is typical of the left. It's not about us, it's about them. And power.

sailor

Well, on to "circling the wagons" and away from cars.

daddy

Wait around long enough and suddenly you're on topic:)


Rereading that Mea Culpa by the Amateur Genealogist and the Cherokee Grandma business, it really is puzzling how that "evidence" popped up.

There was no documentation at all, no evidence at all, no solid memory of a reliable conversation about it at all, and no such marriage application form even existed; Nothing textual, nothing electronic, nothing "an electronic copy of a textual", etc. Absolutely nothing.

Appears now that the most solid evidence upon which to make her claim is Lizzy's cousin's editing of a book on Injun's eating Velveetaa and Twinkies.:

"Such stuff as dreams are made on".

Even better now tho' is the complete silence from the "Professionals" at The New England Historic Genealogical Society.

Profiles in Courage, they ain't.

Seems to me The New England Historic Genealogical Society could use a man like Sandy Berger.

Thomas Collins

Amy Davidson is overthinking what is clearly a paleface hustle.

Neo

Warren is beating her faux 1/32nd Cherokee “war drums” …

Democratic Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren called for JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon to resign his position as a director at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
I call for Warren, an “forked-tongue evil white-eye”, to step down from the Harvard faculty.

daddy

Pow Wow Chow:

"velveeta and mayonnaise,...wonder bread, velveeta, oscar meyer bologne, twinkies and pepsi,...cream cheese and graham crackers,..."


Who knew Chris Christy was an Injun?

Gabriel Sutherland

The first time I heard of Lizzy Warren was from "Frontline". They interviewed her extensively on credit card reform regulations the industry was opposing(shock that industry would oppose constraints on restricting access to credit) because as Lizzy claimed, it was the fault of credit card issuers that customers were paying 29.99% APR on a credit card.

And she's "Lizzy" because she spoke outside the clique.

Neo

Huffington Post editor Ethan Klapper reported on Twitter a possible ‘hot mic’ gaffe with President Obama uttering “I gotta get my sh…” after a commencement address speech to students at Barnard College, a private women’s liberal arts college in New York City.

Janet

She put herself down as Native American for the lunch invitations, and stopped when none were forthcoming?

That sounds like a lib., doesn't it? She should have thrown an Indian party if she wanted an Indian party. Always looking for someone else to do the work.

Dave (in MA)


flap left shut by popular demand.

centralcal

Oh, thank heaven - the witching hour has finally ended!

lyle

Just think, Lizzie could have lister herself as bi/curious on her CV and saved herself a lot of grief.

NK

Guys, Guys-- in the LeftWorld, Lizzie IS an Indian, because she FEELS like an aggrieved Indian. Feelings trump DNA matter in LeftWorld.

Gabriel Sutherland

Right. A director of the NY Fed is just going to step down.

Keep asking Lizzy.

Rick Ballard

Bruce,

The Narcisolator adds a Last Page button just above the Comments line. It also removes avatars and Dana Gilbert Ward of the Pitzer Home for Anarchist Idiots from view.

The kludge for multi-page comment posts is to change the page number in the URL to 12. Hit refresh after doing so and Viola! - there you are.

Bruce

Rick - thanks.

Bruce

Rick/All - how many posts per page (usually)? Is is post number determined (like Blogger), length determined, or character determined? Information would be handing if jumping ahead X number of pages to find that last page or two.

Rick Ballard

Bruce,

100 comments per page w/o the Narcisolator.

I appreciate the value that you and Theo have added to comments. Thanks for sticking around.

daddy

Other famous Injun's!

Mega Ditto's!


Egon

Tyra Banks

Mary Worth

Brad Pitt

Spider Man

Danube of Thought

On the iPad, and with Firefox on a Mac, it's 100 posts per page.

Abadman

I am always surprised how these strong unequivocal supporters of affirmative action are unwilling to give up their jobs for the cause. Like everything someone else or someone else's kids pays the freight for their principles.

Walter

Bruce, grateful it was only a day. We were calling the local police lockups once when he was gone for a week a few years back.

Rick Ballard

Walter,

Is Martin going to take on Carnahan again?

Jack is Back

Walter,

And that is exactly why he should give Clarice the keys to the blog so he can take a break from time to time without us going through comment anxiety.

Porchlight

flap left shut by popular demand.

Heh, I bet an Obama logo (or two!) would fit real nicely under there...

matt

Those high cheekbones and Nordic features are a dead giveaway for the Ahwannabe Nation.

They were certified by the Department of Fauxindian Affairs a few years back and have their primary (standing) reservation at the University Club in Cambridge.

Every year they meet around the bonfire before the Hahvad-Yale intertribal lacrosse game where sherry and traditional Ahwannabe cheesey balls are served.

During these festivities the sacred dance "Half-Breed" is performed only for the initiates of the secret "T'in Ear" society.

The Great Tribal Council includes Princess Fauxcahontas, Derrick (Chief CBT) Bell, and of course, Lawrence Tribe.

lyle

Speaking of Mr. Dimon...think he's having some buyer's remorse? Or as the Instadude sez, "another rube self-identifies."

Danube of Thought

Daily Caller:

"Lynda Smith, the amateur genealogist who unknowingly found herself at the root of the false 'Elizabeth Warren is 1/32 Cherokee' meme introduced to the media by 'noted' genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Genealogical Society, acknowledged in an email to me this past Saturday, May 12, that her statement in a March 2006 family newsletter upon which Mr. Child based his claim of Ms. Warren’s Cherokee ancestry was made with no supporting documentation. It was, in fact, an honest mistake that Ms. Smith now acknowledges is entirely without foundation."

Ranger

OT, but interesting. It looks like Team Romney rope-a-doped ObamaCo. They already have a response to the spot that the Obama campaign put out this morning:

Romney fires back: Meet the steel company that Bain helped build

I suspect that they had this ready before Newt brought it up in the primary but held their fire until they really wanted to use it.

lyle

Indian Maiden dig deep hole. Double down on dig. Make fake Hillary stories look believable.

Jack is Back

matt,

Maybe that is what it is - the Lawrence Tribe:)

daddy,

Frederick is at the local theater with friends right now watching The Avengers in 3D. He is an expert in those characters and I am going to ask him if any of them eat Twinkies. I'll take a photo of the look on his face and post it:)

daddy

Let me be the first to cry "Racism" in North Carolina:

District attorney asks SBI to investigate academic fraud at UNC

"The findings of an internal UNC probe released this month found 54 classes within (The African and Afro-American Studies) Department in which there was little or no indication of instruction."


Neo

Apparently, she won’t give it up.
Even today ..”I’m proud of my Native American heritage

Sue

I am reminded of the fake Vietnam vet that won in Connecticut or somewhere up in the NE after telling stories about his service in Vietnam when he was never there. Narciso will remember his name, I don't. Dick comes to mind but that may be a description of him and not his name.

BB Key

OT but the other thread was too long

I know most of us here at JOM started reading Tom during the Plame/Wilson affair .It seems to me that back during the Bush adninistration that Tenet,Goss, and Hayden were constantly befor Congress and in the MFM evry time milk was spilled at the agency.
With the leak of the operation in the Arabian pennisula , the drone policy and the downed agecy drone in Persia , does the JEF have a gag on Patraeus knowing that if asked about any of these missteps he would tell the truth?
The silence is deafening.

Danube of Thought

Someone should literally be hanged for this, but it is certain that nothing will be done:

"Just a week ago the establishment media was aflutter with news that a CIA double-agent had thwarted a new type of underwear bomb attack targeting U.S. flights in a plot devised by al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula.

"But as the week progressed, a developing bombshell story got buried under President Obama’s gay marriage announcement. Not only is the supposed CIA asset not a CIA asset at all, but the entire operation was exposed prematurely and the double-agent’s life was immediately threatened by an intelligence leak that very well may have come out of the White House for political gain.

As the story broke, the establishment media was more than happy to attribute the intelligence coup to the CIA and the Obama administration, describing the mole as a 'CIA informant.'"

"It turns out that wasn’t true. The double-agent hadn’t been recruited and placed by the CIA, but by British intelligence, who also managed the operation. In fact, the Americans had only recently been made aware of the joint British-Saudi effort.

"The leaks about the operation from the American side have infuriated British intelligence officials, who had hoped to continue the operation. The leaks not only scuttled the mission but put the life of the asset in jeopardy. Even CIA officials, joining their MI5 and MI6 counterparts, were describing the leaks as “despicable,” attributing them to the Obama administration."

lyle

The war on women continues:

The White House approached Barnard, a female-only affiliate of Columbia University, and offered Obama as a commencement speaker. Ironically, the move bumped a woman off the stage: Jill Abramson, the first female Executive Editor of the New York Times, who was originally scheduled to speak.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/14/obama-courts-young-females-at-barnard-downplays-economic-woes/

Gus

Blumenthal lied about his Viet Nam service, and yet, that didn't matter to Democrats.
That says a lot about the Party of Kennedy.
Connecticut should be ashamed.

Jack is Back

DoT,

And don't you think the MI6 are a little pissed? I hear they are absolutely apopletic at this revelation and may not be willing to share much more G2 with the CIA as they try to stop the stuff from happening on THEIR homeland. This guy and his false expert Brennan will cause one to get through before the election. That's my bet.

Why? Because the Israeli's and the Brits have no reason to let us know ahead of time anymore.

Sue

Gus,

Thanks. I've grown lazy having a walking encyclopedia around. Narciso remembers everything. And by everything, I mean everything. Total recall. I am green with envy.

Captain Hate

DoT, narc had links to that story late last week. Incredible job of squandering a lot of manpower and effort, not to mention putting peoples' lives at risk, for the glorification of one person.

BB Key

DoT , thanks , someone should be hanged but nobody is even asking any questions

Gus

Jack, Obama plays hand to mouth. He has no discipline and currently is desperate.
There is no one that Obama won't use and throw under the bus.

daddy

Jack,

A careful reviews reveals that Iron Man actually seems to prefer "Hostess Fruit Pies." Plesase get frederick's important input on that.

BTW, does anyone know if "Pow Wow Chow" mentions any other Hostess products that are legitimate enough Native American fare to hang an ancestor on, or is it only Twinkies that bestows upon Liz her coveted Indian ancestry?

In Liz's case I would have thought Ding Dong's would have done the trick as legitimately as Skittles did in placing the halo upon Trayvon Martin.

Bruce
On the iPad, and with Firefox on a Mac, it's 100 posts per page.
With being able to input/modify the page number in the URL, that pretty much has to apply overall. The reason that I questioned that, was that it sure seemed in previous threads that there were fewer than 100 per page.

And, yeh, I can see how Tom Maguire disappearing for a bit could be a problem around here.

Gus

Daddy, I'm glad you didn't say HO HO'S.
You know that war on women and such.

Ignatz

--Jack,

A careful reviews reveals that Iron Man actually seems to prefer "Hostess Fruit Pies." Plesase get frederick's important input on that.--

Don't know about Frederick, or Ironman for that matter, but I have to admit both Twinkies and those fruit pies are guilty pleasures amounting to near addictions for me.
Since, when I'm looking at property or marking timber, I'm often tanking the pickup up at 4:00AM at some convenience store it's mighty easy to fall off the wagon.

matt

The relationship between our intel services and the UK's is not good at present. If you recall, we did a data dump to the Rooskies on their submarine launch capability a couple of years ago about which The Firm was quite unhappy.

The UK's High Court decision to allow sources to be named, some of which were classified by our government, was another issue.

Overall, our diplomatic and intelligence relationship is shakier than at any time since perhaps 1956.

Rick Ballard

Lights Out for LightSquared

I wonder if Obama will miss Phillip Falcone's advice as much as he does Don Corzione's?

Jack is Back

daddy,

Ummh. Hostess Fruit Pies - Cherry, please. How I miss those. They were the breakfast, lunch desert and TV snack of my college years. But second to a bag of White Castle's.

IIRC, on one of the Food Network shows that show how your favorite foods are made they did a slot on making Ho Ho's and Twinkies. My wife, the Belgian shuddered at the assembly line mechanics but when she saw the end product made me look for them next time I went to Publix.

Walter

Rick, as a result of a small population adjustment (we seem to be getting more selective in our appeal), Lacey Clay's dad's district is being merged with the district Russ Carnahan won due to sympathy over his father's untimely loss.

Because of the demographics, no republican has a shot, but the primary is great fun.

Todd Akin's district inherited my neighborhood, but he has elected to challenge Steelman for McCaskill's seat (there's another guy spending like a drunken sailor, but no one expects him to win the nomination).

Ann Wagner, a former state R chair is up against a perennial loser (as a politician--he's actually a nice guy) for the now safe 2nd district.

I don't know what Martin is up to. Perhaps AliceH can help? I didn't even know Todd wasn't keeping his seat until I told her the opposite a few days back. (Sorry!)

Paulo

"WFTV has learned charges against George Zimmerman could be getting more serious.

State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime."

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/fbi-seeks-charge-george-zimmerman-hate-crime/nN5pR/

Jack is Back

Frau, Charlie and Mrs. JiB could step in and help but this is pretty much self explanatory and not pretty.

Greece and what the bailout got them.

And this is exactly what the progs want for America. Destroy it economically and you get to rebuild it in your likeness. A complete mess!

AliceH

O/T "Next Saturday, 19 May in Richmond VA there is going to be a parade to welcome home the Iraq and Afghan vets and salute them for their service and sacrifice."

More info here: United Conservatives Blog

Paulo

"Sheaffer said a federal hate crime murder charge could bring more serious consequences than the second-degree murder charge Zimmerman faces now.

“Mr. Zimmerman could be punished by up to life in prison or even the death penalty,” said Sheaffer."

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/fbi-seeks-charge-george-zimmerman-hate-crime/nN5pR/

AliceH

Rick/Walter: Ed Martin filed as a candidate for State Attorney General. Will have a primary against Adam Lee Warren (don't know him), winner runs against the incumbent Chris Kostner.

daddy

A decent, brief write up on the pressure in the early 90's to hire "the right kind of Minority's" at Harvard from one of Liz's former students:

Defining diversity at Harvard Law

Jack is Back

Walter and AliceH,

What did you think of Matt Blount when he was Governor? Got a great story about him.

Rick Ballard

Walter,

Thanks. I keep forgetting that this is a realignment election. I can sure understand a cage match primary for the pleasure of putting McCaskill out to pasture. I've been taking a lot of pleasure in reading her poll results.

narciso

That's Poole's piece, (I met him at CPAC, many moons ago) and mine in the LUN

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/05/14/bombshell-al-qaeda-infiltrator-was-working-for-brits-not-cia-cover-blown-for-election-year-politics/#comments

I threw in references to the 'Departed' and the series MI-5, but we followed much of the same leads.

narciso

No, those are some of the elements, in controversy, not only in the 9/11 Commission report, but the IG's report, the first attempt against Tarnak Farms does appear in 'Ghost Wars', but the record is spotty.

The Clinton administration was not that enthused by the likes of TRODPOINT, the joint
operations with the Northern Alliance,

AliceH

JiB - I had only general awareness of Matt Blount, since at the time I was still in 24x7 work-mode and not paying attention to details in politics. with that caveat, I recall mostly positive impressions of his governing style AND priorities. I think Cato gave MO an A- after his first year, but dropped to B+ or something after 2nd or 3rd. His military service and recognition and honoring of Missouri servicemen was timely, sincere, and constant.

I liked him much more than I've ever liked his Dad. I am sort of still ticked he decided not to run again. His explanation "I accomplished what I set out to do" is deeply unsatisfying.

Clarice

I posted something on the prior thread about the leak, DNI has said he will not question anyone in the wh or NSC about their tole in it.

Ranger

Oh my. It looks like Romney is not going to play nice with Obama (via Instapundit):

“We welcome the Obama campaign’s attempt to pivot back to jobs and a discussion of their failed record. Mitt Romney helped create more jobs in his private sector experience and more jobs as Governor of Massachusetts than President Obama has for the entire nation. President Obama has many questions to answer as to why his administration used the stimulus to reward wealthy campaign donors with taxpayer money for bad ideas like Solyndra, but 23 million Americans are still struggling to find jobs. If the Obama administration was less concerned about pleasing their wealthy donors and more concerned about creating jobs, America would be much better off.”

daddy

Fed Judge tosses out a supposed fait accompli by the NLRB that created new Regulations that were expected to help unions win more workplace elections.

Apparently the 5 member board needed a Quorum, and the only 2 who voted were the 2 Dems.

Judge strikes down union election rules

Gus

Romney should always refer to Obama as His Royal Highness President Jumbo Ears.

that would certainly get Obama's attention.

Ignatz

--State prosecutors said Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman, profiled and stalked 17-year-old Trayvon Martin before killing him, so the FBI is now looking into charging him with a hate crime.--

I believe that should read Eric Holder's impossibly corrupt DOJ is looking into charging him with a hate crime.

Gus

Ignatz, they are desperate.

Danube of Thought

"Romney should always refer to Obama as His Royal Highness President Jumbo Ears."

Might work if they were competing for the presidency of the 6th grade class.

matt

Obama's new secret Delta Tau Chi name is "The Gerbilator".

Regarding the U.S. giving up British nuclear secrets. LUN

MarkO

So the Feds plan to take a hostage because the state case is so weak. Trying to force a plea.

Ranger

I believe that should read Eric Holder's impossibly corrupt DOJ is looking into charging him with a hate crime.

Yes. The White House internal polling in Florida must be pretty bad right now for them to being trying this while the state already has a prosecution on-going.

narciso

I linked that Atlantic Wire piece, they really know how to make friends, as I pointed out, in my own piece Asiri's first target, is now the son of the Crown Prince, that's his bailiwick, as they say 'this time it's personal'

xbradtc

We already knew the FBI/DoJ was looking at it. I didn't see any new information that actually suggested they were any closer to charging him with a federal crime.

pagar

"reward wealthy campaign donors with taxpayer money for bad ideas"

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/05/14/hhs-sends-59-million-program-run-obama-buddy/

"HHS Sends $5.9 Million to Program Run by Obama Buddy"

Wonder where that money will go?
------------------------------------------

http://the-american-journal.com/aircraft-builder-denied-air-force-contract-favor-brazilian-soros-connections/

Obviously, it makes no sense to the Obama ADMIN to be creating jobs for Americans.

Walter

JIB, I found it disturbing that companies paying money to his brother* fared better than those who did not. I have the same criticism for his father.

-----------
*Whoops! I meant his brother's firm. The brother never lobbied his dad or brother. Much like the ethical behavior followed by the Reid family.

Captain Hate

I believe that should read Eric Holder's impossibly corrupt DOJ is looking into charging him with a hate crime.

Geez who'd have thought that putting a thought crime law in place could lead to abuse? Time for a look at the clean toga Repukes that voted for it.

Clarice

Speaking of polling:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57434153-503544/poll-romney-has-slight-edge-over-obama/

That's right the usually stacked to the gills for Dems CBS poll has Romney forging ahead.


**

Great news on the NLRB case. It was the right decision but these days who knows what even federal Ct judges will do.

As for the Zimmerman hate crime--the evidence of profiling is what? The faked ABC /NBC reports? Let's hope there's asecond honest federal judge out there.

Jack is Back

AliceH,

Thanks for the response.

We (Mrs. JiB, myself and Frederick) were at a hotel in Miami just after the Republican Governor's Meeting in 2008 - right after Obma had been elected. It was on Biscayne Bay and had a nice double terrace outside by the bay that served for a dining area. On the upper level sat a young couple with a boy about a year younger than Frederick. We were just below. It was December and the sun set early. They lit the tiki lamps and the breeze was nice and warm. But Frederick got restless (he was only 51/2 at the time) and walk up to the upper terrace to meet the other boy. One thing to another an d they were runing around having fun.

The next day at the pool he found his buddy and they were playing but being watched by the Dad. I was busy on the computer and would take over from time to time. Me and the Dad would talk about the kids, the Miami experience, the weather and the football season so far. He spent a lot of time with the boys, more than me.

Next day, I am upstairs watching the NFL and Mrs. JiB is down by the pool with the kids. The Dad is still out there supervising and keeping them from drowning. I go down as they are all leaving. Back to Missouri they say. So, we say goodbye and thanks for watching Frederick. I ask my wife if she talked to the wife and she said yes. I said, so they are from Missouri, where? and Mrs. JiB (the Belgian, remember) says they are in Jefferson City. Before I could even say Oh? she tells me that he was the Governor of Missouri, Matt Blount:)

To this day forward, if you ask my wife who she would like to see run for POTUS its always Matt Blount. His son's name is Branch and he is a great kid. Matt is a another of those pesky USNA grads like our friend DoT.

Jane

I have a very bad case of the flu, So my mood reflects that. Take it for what it's worth. Cap'n your and Iggys assumption that the coarsening of JOM both with language and the daily pix has nothing to do with people leaving is dead wrong. They are indeed among the reasons, I can tell you for a fact. And it is easier to find another place to post for some than to confront the people causing the change. I would Think you would applaud that rather than act like it is stupid.

MarkO

Explain this to me. If JP Morgan blows itself up with bad trades, will the US step in to bail it out? Obama makes it sound as if the US is the guarator of every bank in America. Would a bailout pass again?

narciso

Well the tipoff for that story, is the unattributed source, wouldn't the US Attorney
for Central Florida, be looking into said charges,

xbradtc

Pagar, don't read too much into that piece on Embraer vs. Beechraft.

Everyone I've talked to said that the Super Tucano beat the heck out of the T-6.

And it doesn't help that Hawker Beechcraft (which is also foreign owned, BTW) just declared bankruptcy.

Jack is Back

Jane,

Summer flu already? Get better.

I have a cure, you know. But you need to make sure you have all the ingredients. First you need a bottle of either Maker's Mark or Highland Park. Then you go to bed and drink the bottle one shot at a time until it is empty. Wake up and you have a headache of headaches but you do not have the flu any longer. Can you believe it works that way:)

Rick Ballard

Ranger,

Dunno about worse internal polling for Florida. Not since all four of the hotly contested House seats flipped in '10, anyway. It's just that the Florida polling isn't getting any better than it was in '10. It's not getting any better in Pennsylvania either and more seats flipped there than in Florida - including a Senate seat.

The fraudulent CBS poll results which Clarice just linked use an RV sample weighted 25R, 34D, 41I. I'd say that JEF is looking at properly weighted numbers which indicate he should proceed in a state of drunken or drugged panic.

centralcal

Clarice or DoT or MarkO or Jane or any other attorneys - I have a really, really stupid question.

Profiling. It's against the law when done by whom? I am guilty of profiling all the time - by choosing which mini-mart to stop at for that quart of milk on my way home, etc. etc.

Zimmerman wasn't a police officer, so if he profiled TM, what law did he break as an ordinary citizen sizing up another citizen?

Ignatz

--Cap'n your and Iggys assumption that the coarsening of JOM both with language and the daily pix has nothing to do with people leaving is dead wrong.--

The question was whether Gus's use of terms like LIBTARD caused anyone to leave. Whether or not someone likes the term or the all caps, that hardly seems like a coarsening of language considering the monkey poo that has been flung to and fro between Cleo, Anduril and others previously.
As for the pics, I thought we had reached a happy medium but apparently not, so I won't post anymore if they've caused someone to leave.

AliceH

By the way, of course JiB and I are talking about Blunt, not Blount. Typos happen.

Jane

JIB,

I could throw up (again and again and agai) just for reading that. This is what happens when you babysit for a weekend. It really sucks. It actually took me 3 hours to make iy up to my bedroom and not hurl on the stairs.

Clarice

as far as I can tell, profiling is a problem only when done by the govt.

Taranto BOTW:

"Mickey Kaus points to a Gallup poll that ought to worry Democrats. "Six in 10 Say Obama Same-Sex Marriage View Won't Sway Vote" is Gallup's headline. In truth, it will probably sway the votes of a lot fewer than 4 in 10. The poll found that 24% of Democrats are more likely to vote for him and 52% of Republicans less likely. As Gallup notes: "It is probably safe to assume, given the strong relationship between party identification and vote choice, that most of those voters would have voted for or against Obama regardless of his view on gay marriage." (On the other hand, it's possible the strikingly higher Republican number portends a higher turnout.)

But as Kaus notes, the issue needn't sway large numbers of voters in order to prove important or even decisive. And Gallup's findings suggest that it is considerably more likely to sway voters against Obama than for him. Among Democrats, 10% said they were less likely to vote for him, while only 2% of Republicans said they were more likely. And 23% of independents said less likely, vs. only 11% more likely.

In the same poll, 51% of respondents overall said they approve of same-sex marriage; only 45% disapproved. That may reassure Obama. But given that same-sex marriage has consistently done far worse at the ballot box than in opinion polls, it ought to unsettle him instead. He may be doing great damage to his re-election prospects by listening to the cheerleaders in the media."

Jack is Back

CC,

I am not an attorney but I am smarter, more intelligent and more competent in the law than Eric Holder (plus I am not a racist like him or corrupt to the bone like him) so I will tell you that it doesn't matter if you are a citizen or not. To this DoJ you are white, being in California helps a little as long as you vote Democrat, but on the up and up you are toast and there is not a damn thing we can do for you except make you beg for forgiveness.

BTW, which mini-mart do you stop in, the Afghani or the Paki one? Could be decisive in how they treat you at DoJ.

Danube of Thought

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centralcal

Also, from the CBS poll:

Mark Knoller ‏ @markknoller

67% in poll think Pres Obama endorsed same-sex marriage for political reasons, 24% because he thinks it's right.

GMax

Whiskey? The cure is worse than the malady I think. Starve a fever usually works on a flu, unless its the 7 day variety, cuz by then you will be both skinny and mean and as water moccasin.

Danube of Thought

Ccal, I don't really know when or if it's ever unlawful if done by a private citizen. I assume that it can be offered as evidence of motive in a hate-crime case. I believe that if an octoroon is charged with a racially-motivated hate crime it will be a first.

GMax

Speaking Polls a new one released today in Wisconsin had Walker up 9% which is beyond the MOE. Time for Trumpka and SEIU and AFSME to tuck their tails and head on back home, it was all for naught.

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