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Frau Unsinn

But the FBI thinks it was a hate crime.

Clarice

Could..Unless the media and Corey can prove aliens are responsible.

Danube of Thought

"The information could support George Zimmerman's claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him."

I see Dick Tracy is advising WFTV9.

NK

GZ has evidence to try to prove SD by a preponderance. He is looking credible.

Paulo

"And, don't discount TM's defensive wounds. "

You mean the bullet hole surrounded by gun powder burns received while he was on top pummeling GZ even though GZ was yelling for help?


Clarice

lacerations, broken nose and two black eyes.

That would put me in fear of my life--I assume you are being sarcastic, Joshua, but with kaka and duda I've come to believe there are people who can read and write even when all the brains have been sucked out of their heads,

Danube of Thought

"He was truly in fear for his life."

Why?

Joshua

Why?

He was shot, dead. case closed

Steve

I think the best place to try this case is in the public. That is, convince the majority of the public that there was no crime, the shooting was an act of self defense. I think Zimmerman's lawyer is being way too timid in pushing for all the evidence to be released. No need for names of the witnesses, but get all of their statements out there.

Once the public is on Zimmerman's side, then bring out Dershowitz and whoever else with standing in the legal community to pressure the judge to dismiss the charges.

NK

Steve@649: I don't think counsel O'Mara will go that way.

Clarice

When did we stop teaching basic civics?

Jim Ryan

Indeed. Martin was psychic. He was desperately trying to beat to unconsciousness the man who he knew would be his murderer.

Danube of Thought

Being in fear for your life when you are dead is quite an achievement. On the assumption that Joshua is serious, I'd like to know why Martin's fear is relevant.

Steve

"... Steve@649: I don't think counsel O'Mara will go that way. ..."

But is he serving the best interests of his client? Zimmerman and his family are being punished everyday during the pretrial period with restrictions on their daily lives. O'Mara is passing up the chance to have the charges dismissed. Once the case goes to trial anything could happen.

IGMFY


Zuckerberg facebook Billionare Twin Sociopath, renounces US citizenship to avoid taxes Forbes mag calls him 'hero'.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/facebook-founder-eduardo-saverin-gives-up-us-citizenship/2012/05/11/gIQAAMCoIU_story.html

narciso

My late grandfather, with his brief experience in post Franco Spain, said this was happening by the mid 80s, when it changed to social studies.

Cecil Turner

"He was truly in fear for his life."

But not for very long.

Steve

We are still losing people on a daily basis in Afg.

They died May 13, in Bowri Tana, Afghanistan, when the enemy attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device. The soldiers were assigned to the 425th Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska.

Killed were:

Sgt. Brian L. Walker, 25, of Lucerne Valley, Calif., and

Pfc. Richard L. McNulty III, 22, Rolla, Mo.

----------------

1st Lt. Alejo R. Thompson, 30, of Yuma, Ariz., died May 11 in Bagram, Afghanistan, when enemy forces attacked his unit with small-arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.

--------------------

Spc. Alex Hernandez III, 21, of Round Rock, Texas, died May 12, in Kandahar, Afghanistan.

Hernandez was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 25th Aviation Regiment, 25th Combat Aviation Brigade, 25th Infantry Division, Wheeler Army Airfield, Hawaii.

Bob

Mr. Kurtz is a former Broward County NAACP President.

IGMFY

You acitve duty, Steve?

NK

Steve-- seriously, O'Mara has his client out of jail on reasonable bond, he just recently received the State's production of its evidence, apparently the State has not yet given him a Bill of Particulars setting the evidence that Murder 2 was committed. O'Mara's job is to make GZ a free man, either by immunity order from the court or a not guilty acquittal. I don't think O'Mara has missed any opportunities, and I think it's a safe assumption that there will soon be motions to dismiss and/or for immunity.

Steve

"... You acitve duty, Steve? ..."

no. there is a DOD email service that sends out the casualty announcements.

IGMFY

work in DC?

Steve

"... I don't think O'Mara has missed any opportunities, and I think it's a safe assumption that there will soon be motions to dismiss and/or for immunity. ..."

I would only argue the point that if all the evidence is in Zimmerman's favor there should be a full court press to have the charges dismissed. Full court to the extent of demanding a review of the prosecutors actions on ethical and criminal grounds. Press them to see if there is dissension in the ranks of the prosecution team.

If O'Mara is going to move for dismissal the fine. But if he is waiting for trial, then I think he is looking out a little too much for his own standing in the state, doing the prosecutors a favor by not trying to expose them.

IGMFY

I've spoken with a StevefromDC. Thought it might be you. Guess not.

narciso

Basically repeating ABC's leak, no apologies for getting it wrong initially.


http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/15/2801162/george-zimmerman-had-a-broken.html

daddy

Insty posts a good question from Micky Kaus:

“Maybe I’m missing something, but if Obama’s pal Dr. Eric Whitaker did offer Rev. Wright $150,000 to stay silent for the duration of the campaign, as charged by Ed Klein, how exactly is that different from John Edwards’ pal Fred Baron giving Rielle Hunter money to stay out of the limelight for the duration of the campaign?”


Steve

"... I've spoken with a StevefromDC. Thought it might be you. Guess not.
..."

just a patriot who thinks states have to adapt to the new world order. Form their own economic union with other like minded, budget balancing states.

NK

Steve-- O'Mara is duty sworn to represent GZ's interests to win Immunity or acquittal. Bad judgment-- or worse -- by the State prosecutor is the job of the voters to evaluate. So no, O'Mara's job is not to persuade the public and pick a fight with the State prosecutor if it does a disservice to GZ. And I think it would be a disservice-- right now the audience is Judge Lester, picking a fight with the State I don't think helps persuade Judge Lester -- so O'Mara should avoid doing that. For now.

Jack is Back

Steve,

Know martial arts? Can hit the head shot at 25?

O'Mara has a viable threat on his life and he is only the attorney. You think GZ gets a confetti parade if he goes to trial tomorrow? O'Mara and his client need 24/7 protection not a cheerleading squad. Let him milk this one drop at a time to get more of the public, potental jurors, the judge and even the State on board before this is adjudicated on Court TV.

Steve

"... if Obama’s pal Dr. Eric Whitaker did offer Rev. Wright $150,000 to stay silent for the duration of the campaign ..."

Like it or not, Wright is a public figure with more than a few people who listen to and agree with what he has to say.

narciso

Well there is a little justice in this world, after all.


http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-group-wins-terror-suit-against-syria-iran-184948425.html

narciso

I've been very impressed with O'Mara's very deliberate method of conducting himself,

Rick Ballard

"When did we stop teaching basic civics?"

Clarice,

These threads are great if you're writing the script for When Vizzini Met Otto. The proglodyte flatworms are a riot.

NK

OT-- Weekly Standard tears Chrissy Matthews a new one over his disasterous Jeopardy appearance. This is what happens when a Lefty leaves the cocoon and has to answer factual questions. Enjoy:http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/05/15/having-repeatedly-mocked-palin-what-shed-do-jeopardy-matthews-comes-l#ixzz1uwLt94fb

IGMFY

Can conservatives distinguish between the war on women, and that, on gays?


DENVER (AP) — Gay couples who watched as Colorado lawmakers rejected a civil unions measure are taking comfort in the bill sponsor's mantra: It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when civil unions become law.
The most emotional issue — some call it divisive — at the Legislature came to an end late Monday in front of hundreds of observers at the Capitol. It was the second time within a week the bill failed. The first was after a Republican filibuster, the second during a special session.
Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper had said the second go-around was needed to address a "fundamental question of fairness and civil rights" on whether gay couples deserve rights similar to married couples.
The bill's demise during special session was expected by Democrats, who have begun using the issue as a rallying cry to topple Republicans in the November elections. Republicans assigned the bill to the House State, Veterans and Military Affairs Committee, which voted 5-4 along party lines to kill the measure.
"My family is the same as every one of yours," said Rep. Mark Ferrandino, the Democrats' leader in the House and a gay lawmaker who co-sponsored the civil unions bill, moments before it was defeated.

Steve

"... Let him milk this one drop at a time to get more of the public, potental jurors, the judge and even the State on board before this is adjudicated on Court TV. ..."

Having Alan Dershowitz on your side is a big deal. He says the judge should have dismissed already. And he is more that critical enough of the prosecutor that she risks having her career destroyed. She will not risk that.

O'Mara did great in the bail hearing. I only wish he had pressed the investigators to disclose what evidence that had that convinced them Zimmerman was guilty.

IGMFY

"Form their own economic union with other like minded, budget balancing states."

Secession?

How will such a decentralized gubmint help the troops in Afghanistan?

Steve

"... Secession?

How will such a decentralized gubmint help the troops in Afghanistan?

..."

Too many republicans are afraid of even thinking about S word. Have to call it something else. Something like the EU. That also has the advantage of being a word that appeals to democrat voters.

On Afg, I would have all the troops out. SK too.

GMax

Under a headline that says: Democrats Grow Alarmed I just had to give you this.


The Times/CBS survey is unique in that the pollsters called back the same phone numbers they had a month before. In April, Obama and Romney were dead even. Now, Romney leads by 3 points overall. That’s still within the margin of error -- a statistical tie.

But the shifts with women, moderates and independents are all statistically significant. Obama lost 5 points with each of those demographics.

So they call back the same houses and women, indys and moderates all having a change of heart with Zero the massive incompetent. Too bad nobody here has been forecasting this for months now...


narciso

An aerospace engineer and commenter on said subjects drives the point about Tweety home;


http://news.yahoo.com/chris-matthews-does-worse-sarah-palin-jeopardy-171300525.html;_

NK

GMAX-- wow, even the NYT/CBS is beginning to admit the truth about the election.

IGMFY

"On Afg, I would have all the troops out. SK too. "

So what do you make of Ron Paul? Is he going to disrupt the Convention?

Jack is Back

At the same time Greenpeace is invading Apple's HQ, Tim Cooke is meeting with Boehner (and wearing a freeking tie). LUN

This coupled with the IRS and STATE look sees seem tidal, in a way.

Steve

"... In April, Obama and Romney were dead even. Now, Romney leads by 3 points overall...."

Romney is looking and sounding presidential. I think people trust him to turn around the economy.

GMax

Is it unusual for a thug to have skinned knuckles? I think not! Therefore the black mortician told the truth! Besides, he did not want his placed burned to the ground and his family getting death threats. Who could blame him?

Now the Governor who appointed this joke of a prosecutor? I got a bone to pick with him.

Jack is Back

Sorry about that. When you sign into Typepad, no more LUN.

GO HERE

NK

JiB-- Cook meets with Boehner a few days after 'bam's gay thing. Cook is sending major signals to 'Bam.

Steve

"... So what do you make of Ron Paul? Is he going to disrupt the Convention?... "

I do not think much of Ron Paul and Libertarians. Don't like free trade. China is a serious threat to the US. Raise tariffs until our trade is balanced. And stop selling our coal, metals and natural gas abroad. Stop immigration. Pretty much self reliance across the board.


Ignatz

Looking forward to buub, weedavey and Kathy coming up with a new fantasy about the lack of a broken nose on Zimmerman and Trayvon's unblemished, delicate saintly hands.

GMax

NK I have not looked at the survey, but if it like most NYT/CBS concoctions its RV not LV and it will no doubt be D + 8 or something even more preposterous. So how bad is losing with a LV sampling at R + 2?

narciso

Our peripathetic governor, who went native with a chief of staff, out of the good ole boys, who promptly had to resign,

IGMFY

"Trayvon's unblemished, delicate saintly hands."

I think the jury will see defensive wounds, since he's the one who is deceased.

There's the problem for GZ's defense.

Steve

"... Now the Governor who appointed this joke of a prosecutor? I got a bone to pick with him. ..."

Is Jeb Bush the power behind the scenes in Florida? I suspect he thinks it best to satisfy the mob in that state.

Paulo

"I think the jury will see defensive wounds, since he's the one who is deceased."

You mean the jurors will visualize GZ smashing TM's fists with his white hispanic face? Interesting.

GMax

Steve take your Ronulan nonsense elsewhere.

jimmyk

Two new stories on medical evidence

Well, I learned from the Kaka School of Criminal Justice that this isn't evidence evidence, because nothing is really evidence until it's submitted in a trial. After all, who's to say that GZ didn't head butt TM's fists?

He was truly in fear for his life.

I'm quite sure TM was as surprised as anyone by that shot.

Jack is Back

Jeb Bush did not endorse Scott except in the general. And, no, he is not behind the scenes in this matter. This is Scott and Bondi being cute by a mile but getting their unexperienced asses kicked politically. I went for McCallum in the primary because I knew he was no nonsense in the poor me/ victimization department.

Corey, on the other hand, is a unrepentent "to the limit" prosecutor with a politcal tin ear.

GZ will join Casey Anthony as a poster child for prosecutorial optimism run amok.

GMax

who's to say that GZ didn't head butt TM's fists? Yeah what he said. Repeatedly headbutted his fists ( more than one wound ).

Clarice

RB" The proglodyte flatworms are a riot." I'd think they were even more so were I a sociopath looking to exploit my fellow man.

six-pack

Here's the problem. When you make the richest 1% capable of buying a government, they do it. Social Security must be sound. No 1 percenter is that concerned about the 99%. He certainly doesn't pay payroll taxes on 99% of his income. What's his concern?


WASHINGTON -- Peter Peterson, a Wall Street billionaire who has been calling for cuts to Social Security and other government programs for years, is hosting a "fiscal summit" Tuesday that brings together Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, former President Bill Clinton, Rep. Paul Ryan, House Speaker John Boehner, Tom Brokaw and Politico's John Harris, among a host of other elites who will gather at the Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium.

The bipartisan luminaries will be carrying on a discussion to a large extent framed by Peterson, who has spent lavishly to shape a national conversation focusing on the deficit rather than on jobs and economic growth.

That amount of influence -- building the very foundation on which political discussion rests -- doesn't come cheap. And Peterson hasn't skimped.

According to a review of tax documents from 2007 through 2011, Peterson has personally contributed at least $458 million to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation to cast Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and government spending as in a state of crisis, in desperate need of dramatic cuts. Peterson's millions have done next to nothing to change public opinion: In survey after survey, Americans reject the idea of cutting Social Security and Medicare..

Clarice

Cecil, Have I told you lately you're my favorite?

narciso

I did so, JiB, fwiw he ran a prettylackluster campaign, Bondi has lost something as well, I'm afraid with this move, although as I've pointed out earlier, I didn't see any upside
for Corey to do the right thing, from her perspective.

Clarice

Six-pack, you do know, don't you, that with assets worth $10 million the president is in the 1 % ? So is Elizabeth Warren and almost every major Democratic Senator.

GMax

OK let's sorta recap. What is there possibly left for this prosecutor? A DEDE polluted by Crump and Co and minor inconsistencies in multiple statement given by Zimmermsn AND SHADOWS? WTF

dublindave

"Looking forward to buub, weedavey and Kathy coming up with a new fantasy about the lack of a broken nose on"


Actually i'm looking forward to the medical explanation that shows us how a broken nose and two black eyes can magically appear on a persons face 12 hours after that person was apparently asaulted.

Zimmerman's baby face mugshot shows no sign of facial injuries.


"...and Trayvon's unblemished, delicate saintly hands."

Pity they didn't check Georgies brothers hands.


Danube of Thought

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NK

I've been a skeptic of GZ's story until I saw evidence. Now I'm seeing evidence corroborating GZ's story, so GZ is looking credible. The State? I bet all they have is marginally inconsistent statements by GZ the night of the shooting. If that's it-- the Murder 2 charge is an outrage and disgrace.

narciso

It's easy, Danube, he's gone full 'Otto' on the way to the 'Billy Madison' treatment

six-pack

"Zimmerman's baby face mugshot shows no sign of facial injuries."

And those TWO horrendous contusions; each one nearly an inch long, with no stitches or bandage, must TRULY have given Zipperhead, a zipperhead.

Cecil Turner

He certainly doesn't pay payroll taxes on 99% of his income. What's his concern?

His first concern is that the morons in charge will make his money worthless. His next concern is that the resulting civil unrest will make money irrelevant . . . among other things.

Steve: Google the Civil War, the Great Depression, and George Santayana. Read. Then exercise some of that free thinking.

Thanks Clarice.

Clarice

daddy, it's true there is no difference between the Whitaker bribe offer and the Bunny Mellon payoff. and now perhaps more people will agree with me that the Edwards' prosecution is wrong.Having prosecutors decide whether this kind of conduct is criminal allows them to indict almost any politician they choose to after oking into all his personal affairs.

Extraneus

I submit that dd knows how dumb that last post was.

henry

I haven't broken my nose recently, but I do recall two black eyes and lots of swelling appeared the next morning (not right away) on both occasions when I did.

Danube of Thought

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Ignatz

--Actually i'm looking forward to the medical explanation that shows us how a broken nose and two black eyes can magically appear on a persons face 12 hours after that person was apparently asaulted.--

Let's just grant that you've lived a very sheltered life there in Dublin, CA, weedavey and either never been in a fight nor seen anyone else who has.

Certainly you must remember when mommy dearest came home from the plastic surgeon and the next day her eyes were all black from where the doc broke her big beezer to shave it down to size.

GMax

My guess is the looney professor is deep into that six pack after contemplating the NYT/CBS poll results coupled with the Rasmussen +7 Republicans in the generic Congress poll. LOL

GMax

DoubledumbDave has thrown in the towel and no longer even makes a pretense of having logic or facts to buttress his outlandish statements. Why isn't he on the ignor plan as well?

Steve

"... Steve: Google the Civil War, the Great Depression, and George Santayana. Read. Then exercise some of that free thinking. ..."

The depression was caused by government policy. Just like the financial calamity we are in great danger to having happen from the crushing government debt. The civil war was a tragedy and there is zero chance of a repeat.

You do read the papers? This country could not survive a Greece happening on our shores.

dublindave

"Certainly you must remember when mommy dearest came home from the plastic surgeon and the next day her eyes were all black from where the doc broke her big beezer to shave it down to size."


So is that why at the end of every boxing match the fighters faces look so angelic and pristine and THE NEXT DAY they're all broken into pieces?

Go back and take another look at Zimmerman's mugshot.Point out where his two black eyes and broken nose are.

narciso

Tell me, Steve, you don't think Jeremiah Wright, has a legitimate argument, 'don't be that guy'

dublindave

Public Service Announcement The owner of this site has requested that no one respond in any way to the man now calling himself IGMFY.

He also asked for a coffee with two sugars and he may need a foot massage later on.......so chop-chop get goin coffee boy!!!


Cecil Turner

The depression was caused by government policy. Just like the financial calamity we are in great danger to having happen from the crushing government debt. The civil war was a tragedy and there is zero chance of a repeat.

If that's as good as you can do, I don't think there's much point in continuing. Cheers.

six-pack

Peterson doesn't pay much in payroll taxes, and I know John Bohner doesn't? Who are they trying to help?

It is a mystery worthy of Hercule Poirot.

In remarks at the 2012 Peter G. Peterson Foundation, Boehner will erect the same requirements for raising the debt limit this coming winter that nearly led the country to default on its debt last August.

“We shouldn’t dread the debt limit. We should welcome it. It’s an action-forcing event in a town that has become infamous for inaction,” Boehner will say according to excerpts of prepared remarks provided by his office. “That night in New York City, I put forth the principle that we should not raise the debt ceiling without real spending cuts and reforms that exceed the amount of the debt limit increase…. When the time comes, I will again insist on my simple principle of cuts and reforms greater than the debt limit increase. This is the only avenue I see right now to force the elected leadership of this country to solve our structural fiscal imbalance. If that means we have to do a series of stop-gap measures, so be it - but that’s not the ideal. Let’s start solving the problem. We can make the bold cuts and reforms necessary to meet this principle, and we must.”

Danube of Thought

Speaking only for myself, and not purporting to speak on behalf of the owner, I don't intend to respond further to anything duda writes. I say this because he repeats stupid things over and over, and adds nothing of substance to these discussions.

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

GZ was booked long after the incident, DuDa. His "mugshot" was taken at his booking. You can look it up.

Steve

"... If that's as good as you can do, I don't think there's much point in continuing. Cheers. ..."

ok. take care. On the financial front I admit to being confused as to how we are not having runaway inflation. And why is the US treasury able to sell its long bonds at such a low rate of interest. And what is the math for how much can the Fed safely grow the money supply every year.


Clarice

Putting "Zimmerman" in the title of a JM post draws more imbeciles than honey draws flies, doesn't it? Why, I wonder, is the left so committed to their counterfactual explanation of what went down there?

narciso

Has he seen the price of foodstuffs not to mention fuel, courtesy of QE 1-Twist.

matt

Obama pulls the race card one more time. It's not enough that he was elected once and his administration has been utterly incompetent. We're all racists!!!! LUN

narciso

Btw, David Faber of CNBC, beat both Perino and Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the last round of Jeopardy,

Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet

Desperation. When the narrative fails, they can't drop it. Rosenbergs, Hiss, Sacco and his buddy. Feeeeeelings. Oh Wo Wo Wo Feeelings!

Jim Ryan

Does the Fordham thing mean Lizzy is done? She let herself be sold as an Indian.

GMax

Being a Democrat means never having to say you are sorry. She did draw a primary opponent today so maybe the Democrats will surprise me. I would not bet a Greek Drachma on it, however.

narciso

Aint it the truth, Jim, as we find out with Latell's revelations,

Ignatz

--Btw, David Faber of CNBC, beat both Perino and Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the last round of Jeopardy,--

They don't call him the brain for nothing.

dublindave

"GZ was booked long after the incident, DuDa. His "mugshot" was taken at his booking. You can look it up."

I can also see by the Sandford police surveilance video that George's face is perfect,no blemishes marks or bruises.

As i've said before,as a registered Democrat I really don't care if Zimmerman's is convicted but I can recognize the benifits of his aquittal.It will act as a catylist for some pretty significant legislative changes(as it's already done).The African-American community will be apoplectic and that will spill over into some very interesting areas IE;you'll see alot of NRA scum who helped draft these SYG laws scurrying out from under the rocks we lift in an effort to understand how this tragedy was allowed to happen.

Jane

I think she is done Jim. I'll let you know as time goes on. I don't think her opponent will take the nomination.

narciso

Wow, that was a pretty brutal NCIS cliffhanger.

Ignatz

--So is that why at the end of every boxing match the fighters faces look so angelic and pristine and THE NEXT DAY they're all broken into pieces?--

As a matter of fact boxer's faces do look considerably worse the next day. Take it from a guy who boxed, or not, since you are kind of stupid.

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