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mockmook

He's really milking, this isn't he? :)

mockmook

kamikaze comma

Corruption, most likely deliberate.

Hah, Evan Jones, Anthony Watts, Steve McIntyre, and John Christy blow up Muller's BEST. The temperature record is corrupted, doubling actual warming.

So goes attribution. I'd like to hear Steven Mosher's take on this.
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Carol Herman

What? Global Warming has a comment? It's the middle of summer. And, it's hot!

Now you know.

I blame the way the globe spins.

Danube of Thought

No doubt Al Gore will welcome this new analysis as furthering genuine scientific inquiry.

hit and run

I should really pay attention for new threads when commenting on old ones on JOM.

Thanks TM.

bgates

Heh. TM had just posted a comment that linked to a discussion of Auburn football that started with this quote:
"There are many methods for predicting the future. For example, you can read horoscopes, tea leaves, tarot cards, or crystal balls. Collectively, these methods are known as "nutty methods". Or you can put well-researched facts into sophisticated computer models, more commonly referred to as "a complete waste of time". - Scott Adams

Frau Klimawechsel

My mood is improving with this announcement. Love bgates's 3:32.
Let 'em eat crow!

Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

I well remember the Instapundit series where readers were submitting photos of temp stations...which sometimes were sited next to air-con exhaust and so on.
Official response: remove the addresses of monitoring stations from public view.

Yes, let 'em eat crow (LUN)

Stephanie

TM if you are around you might want to look into the slow loading of the website.

It seems to be hanging up on a l.betrad.com that is really slowing down the loading (some ad software maybe). Hit reports that it is slow on the sitemeter, too, but I haven't seen it drag on that one.

Thanks in advance.

jimmyk

Well, we can have scrupulous analysis of data, with transparent and widely accepted techniques, subject to peer review, etc., etc., or we can have this:

Which will get more play in the MSM?

cboldt

-- I blame the way the globe spins. --

I dunno what's up with this, but the way the earth is spinning, the days are longer now, and the nights are shorter. I doesn't take a scientist to figure out, if that keeps up, the earth is going to get warmer.

GMax

At this point, is it not fair to ask what exactly has been proven right about the whole global warming hysteria?

Carol Herman

I don't want to bust anyone's bubble. But the earth is composed mainly of oceans ... where there's no way to measure "surface temperatures" ... or even the tempertures of "waves."

While "one solution" given that "spins are involved." Is to put up lots of arrows. Arrows instead of windmills. That will fool mother nature ... and when winds start to blow ... they'll get so confused ... they'll follow the arrows into new directions.

As to the problems with "global warming" ... the actual problems are due to reproduction. Too many people! Living long through science. While all the "global warming" people want is increasing their share of tax revenues.

hit and run

cboldt:
but the way the earth is spinning, the days are longer now, and the nights are shorter.

Not since Jun 20, alas.

hit and run

Carol:
I don't want to bust anyone's bubble

GOOD NEWS: You didn't.

hit and run

I think you burst the quotation mark bubble though.

AliceH

--the days are longer now, and the nights are shorter--

Actually, cboldt, my readings show that for the last 5 weeks or so, the days are getting shorter. Pretty sure this means a new ice age is starting.

mockmook

Not since Jun 20, alas.

Posted by: hit and run | July 29, 2012 at 04:38 PM

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But it feels like they are longer; that's all that counts.

Like it feels like there are more polar bears stranded on icebergs. And, it feels like that is mostly due to industrial emission of CO2.

GMax

Remember when CO2 was a necessary ingredient for plant growth? Those were the good old days...

jimmyk

for the last 5 weeks or so, the days are getting shorter.

Yes, but they are still longer than the nights. If this is true for the planet as a whole, we are doomed.

AliceH

Yes, but they are still longer than the nights.

Science is hard.

hit and run

I've thawed out some of the vermillion snapper we caught on our spring break-a-thon.

I'm making fish tacos. I wish there was a JOMer or three I could share them with.

JMH? Strawman? DebinNC? Ralph? WhoAmIMissing?

::sigh::

I guess I will have to ...again... stuff myself.

Not to mention the fact that with no one coming over my kitchen remains in a state of hideous uncleanliness.

Please, no one tell mrs hit and run.

::sigh::

DrJ

hit,

I'd love to join you -- the charming and delightful MrsJ loves loves loves fish tacos -- but I'm afraid that we couldn't make it your way by dinner time.

GMax

Kim, if you are lurking, what am I missing about this Muller cat? Here is a very recent quote from an op ed:

I still find that much, if not most, of what is attributed to climate change is speculative, exaggerated or just plain wrong. I’ve analyzed some of the most alarmist claims, and my skepticism about them hasn’t changed.

Hurricane Katrina cannot be attributed to global warming. The number of hurricanes hitting the United States has been going down, not up; likewise for intense tornadoes. Polar bears aren’t dying from receding ice, and the Himalayan glaciers aren’t going to melt by 2035. And it’s possible that we are currently no warmer than we were a thousand years ago, during the “Medieval Warm Period” or “Medieval Optimum,” an interval of warm conditions known from historical records and indirect evidence like tree rings. And the recent warm spell in the United States happens to be more than offset by cooling elsewhere in the world, so its link to “global” warming is weaker than tenuous.

I conclude from that, that victories are hard to come by in the climate fraud hysteria business these days.

hit and run

DrJ, I'm sorry you and the charming and delightful MrsJ can't attend.

Mostly that the charming and delightful MrsJ can't attend. But I'll miss you too.

Just so you know I had a good Pinot Grigio today.

Very, very good for me. Your impeccable palate might differ.

But as for me and my house, we just can't resist a label offering a Giant 47 pound rooster.

Barackadoodledoo!

hit and run

Last year's fish tacos.

I have no camera to take a pic of this year's feast. But the driveway, as depicted in that pic, has not changed. The only difference is that this year I'm using snapper rather than amberjack.

Sara

I'm making fish tacos.

I don't get fish tacos. Almost seems like sacrilege.

Clarice

*holding bgates' head between her hands** smooch smooch on each check for all the mirth you spread.

AliceH

Hit - since you're reusing last year's pic, you can also reuse the first comment to last year's pic:

Is that plate for one, or two? i'm worried about you.

When does Mrs hit return? you need guidance.

Danube of Thought

Thirteen hours, 47 minutes of daylight here today. Nice waxing gibbous coming up tonight.

That's my report.

Soylent Red

Too many people!

At least one too many, anyway.

Melinda Romanoff

Sara-

Fish tacos are the vehicle in which fresh and unusual salsas arrive.

hit and run

Alice:
since you're reusing last year's pic, you can also reuse the first comment to last year's pic

Sure I could.

If I wanted to quote Ben/Dana.

hit and run

Two tacos down. Two to go.

hit and run

Sara:
I don't get fish tacos. Almost seems like sacrilege.

I don't get not getting fish tacos.

Let's call it even.

DrJ

Just so you know I had a good Pinot Grigio today. Very, very good for me. Your impeccable palate might differ.

hit, the whole idea of wine is to enjoy it. If you liked what you sipped, who cares what anyone else thinks? (I've had that one too, but have no memory of it one way or the other.)

You can meet the charming and delightful MrsJ the next time you are out here, if you give yourself a bit of extra time.

hit and run

DrJ: I am currently in intense negotiations on my next trip out there. A lot of carp at work over the past several months puts everything up in the air. Everything. Maybe there will be some kind of resolution this week. I'll be in touch one way or another. (other norcal JOM'ers, this is also your warning).

I should have stopped at three tacos.

Extraordinary Popular Delusion and a Madness of the Crowd.

Good question, Gmax. Muller is a hard read. His paper, released with much ballyhoo, is destroyed by Anthony's release.

I suspect, like many believers in AGW, which is probably true but insignificant, that he is realizing that the hype for catastrophes is simply untrue. He is trying to position himself as a voice of reason, but his egregious error about attribution damages him.

He doesn't understand climate, as do none of us, but his reading of the politics is off. I suspect his contradictory words stem from the sort of cognitive dissonance rampant in the alarmist world. They haven't even absorbed that a warmer world is a better world than a colder one, but it is eating around the edges of their belief system.
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Jack is Back

Did someone say "fish tacos"? Where/

Down here at the Flagler Fish Company you can get them north or south with blackened grouper, tilapia, redfish, snapper or salmon. You can also get them grilled plain.

Now who can tell me the difference between north and south in fish taco language?

Mel, don't forget the different ways you can do avocado:)

Captain Hate

14 hours 27 minutes here, DoT. I'm guessing that's because you're further to the south and at some point it will cross over and I'll have a lesser amount of sunlight through winter, over and beyond the permanent overcast conditions that exist through most of December.

hit and run

JiB:
Now who can tell me the difference between north and south in fish taco language?

Not me. Not by a long shot.

Extraneus

Forbes:

So, can you print a gun? Yep, you can and that’s exactly what somebody with the alias “HaveBlue” did.

To be accurate, HaveBlue didn’t print an entire gun, he printed a “receiver” for an AR-15 (better known as the military’s M16) at a cost of about $30 worth of materials.

The receiver is, in effect, the framework of a gun and holds the barrel and all of the other parts in place. It’s also the part of the gun that is technically, according to US law, the actual gun and carries the serial number.

When the weapon was assembled with the printed receiver HaveBlue reported he fired 200 rounds and it operated perfectly.

HaveBlue uploaded his digital model to several 3D model archives and at least one, Makerbot, has since banned gun models but Thingiverse, another major archive, still has the receiver model available.

Isn't Have Blue a poster here?

Danube of Thought

"I'm guessing that's because you're further to the south and at some point it will cross over and I'll have a lesser amount of sunlight through winter"

Correct. And we had one minute of daylight less today than we had yesterday. In 1993 while hunting just south of the Brooks Range in late August, we were losing 18 minutes of daylight per day.

Jack is Back

A little OT but worth it.

I just read the July 19th edition of the Southampton Press and there is this little article in there about how some people have protested to the Mayor a bumper sticker on the back of the winning float in the July 4th Parade. It seems the float was sponsored by the 9/12 Project (the local Tea Party) and the bumper sticker was particularly offensive to those watching the parade. It said: "Waterboard a Liberal".

The Mayor noted that he and the other 4 judges were not in a position to see the bumper sticker and if they had they would have DQ'd the float. The spokesman for the 9/12 Project said he had told everyone not to put anything political on the float and found this a negative reflection on the patriotism of the day.

Rumor has it that it was put there by a local OWS kid who parents have a huge home on Gin Lane valued at $28 million. I can buy that (the rumor, not the home:)

DrJ

Ext, I saw that on Insty, and wondered if that was "our" HaveBlue as well.

Ignatz

Roger Pielke Sr on Anthony Watts' paper and he addresses the ramifications for Muller as well.

DrJ

hit,

I do hope it works out for you once again to visit the left coast.

other norcal JOM'ers, this is also your warning

I'm missing a couple of email addresses. Enlightened, macphisto and East Bay Jay (if that is the East Bay that includes Berkeley and Oakland) would you send me an email at info at sonatabio dot com? It is hard to put together meet-ups without your email address.

Rick Ballard

Kim,

The political context of the Muller announcement is that rolling gays is showing a negative ROI - it's time to roll the Watermelons. We can lay the blame for all this directly on the commies running the unions. The ungrateful bastards are refusing to fund Obama according to their ability and his enormous need.

Jack is Back

Hit,

North is shredded cabbage and other fillings and south is grilled onions and other fillings. But its the fresh blackened grouper that makes them yummy. That and the avocado and sour creme. When i make them at home, Mrs. JiB the Euro-snob demands I use creme fraiche:)

Johnny's so late at the fair.

Pielke Pere, he knows where.
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Ignatz

Im pretty sure our Have Blue mentioned he worked on the original Have Blue so the subject of that Forbes article would be right up his street.

BTW that Forbes author is a bit of a dope. There are literally millions of lathe, mill and cnc operators and machines which can whip out millions of guns at the drop of a hat already.
They build decent guns on the streets of Pakistan in open, coal fired forges. He doesn't realize what we might be able to do here even without 3D printers?

DrJ

There are literally millions of lathe, mill and cnc operators and machines which can whip out millions of guns at the drop of a hat already.

Of course that is right. But adding technology just makes it more cool. Insty in particular thinks everything nano is just wonderful. Many of the topics he cites are pretty derivative, and not that interesting.

But he thinks they are topics are cool, so he posts them.

Faster, please.

hit and run

Thanks JiB. Mine were whatever's at hand fish tacos. Pan fried vermillion snapper with refried beans, grilled onions and topped with lettuce, sour cream, cheese and habanero sauce.

I ate one too many.

Tom Maguire
It seems to be hanging up on a l.betrad.com that is really slowing down the loading (some ad software maybe).

I wonder if that is a targeted ad Google sends to some people but not others. At this moment, anyway, I am not getting such an ad (or any such reference in the page source) when I load the site.

Extraneus

It's loading fine for me now, too, and wasn't this morning.

Jack is Back

Hit,

I also like to use canned artichoke hearts chopped up instead of shredded lettuce. Especially with salmon or tilapia. Another nice filling is chopped green onion, cucumber and capers in a mustard sauce.

Sara, are you taking notes?

DrJ

Hit, as I understand it, refried beans are not part of traditional tacos. I love 'em and use them in many things Mexican, but the charming and delightful MrsJ always chides me for turning everything into a burrito.

I say eat what you like. Even if it is one too many. And habaneros are good (ours are getting ripe).

Donald

Tilapia ain't fish. Just sayin.

I ain't bragging or nothin, but I first heard about this global warming thing on the USS Ranger while I was in the Indian ocean and thinking, there is no damned way man could make the temp rise or fall. And wouldnt the feller who managed it get rich? Also, the sun can't get hotter (eh, I wasn't thinking flares or storms or whatever, though I think we can safely predict that the sun's going out, make book on it). Anyways that's exactly what I thought and I was right.

Jack is Back

Donald,

Not according to St. Peter, he made money on it:)

Mark Folkestad

The prototype for the Coonan Arms .357 Magnum autoloading pistol was made by my niece's husband in his garage machine shop at home in south Minneapolis. He made it outside of his regular machine shop, which had much better gear. Skilled machinists can easily make guns with basic machines.

Donald

Whoops!

I was an atheist then Jack and not an educated one, though not an asshole every believer is dumb kinda guy.

Jack is Back

The thing that stands out to me about the kids that win medals at the Olympics, in the most intense competition in front of the world, is their supreme confidence before they compete. Smiles but concentration, relaxation but focus, passion with patience. Amazing stuff by wonderfully conditioned athletes.

We should all be proud of this generation.

hit and run

Posted by: Tom Maguire | July 29, 2012 at 07:37 PM

It was a couple hours ago that I noticed the Waiting for s20.sitemeter.com... message not to be hanging up the JOM loading.

Sara

Sara, are you taking notes?

I am a border babe and like my tacos traditional, no fish. Lots of avocado and sour cream works though. Of course, I'm also a fan of Jack-in-the-Box greasy tacos with the unknown spicy filling and have been known to buy a taco or two from a Tijuana street vendor.

pagar

From the link by Ignatz at 07:14.

"His latest BEST claims are, in my view, an embarrassment."

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/comments-on-the-game-changer-new-paper-an-area-and-distance-weighted-analysis-of-the-impacts-of-station-exposure-on-the-u-s-historical-climatology-network-temperatures-and-temperature-trends-by-w/

Some people are going to read that NYTs article and believe there is something to the global warming scare besides a scam. IMO, the NYTs can't close their doors soon enough. Their leftist propaganda is spread all over the world through local papers such as the La Prensa, who carries their insert every Sunday.

That report shouldn't be considered a game changer--let me repeat: "His latest BEST claims are, in my view, an embarrassment".

Stephanie

Whatever was hanging up the site seems to be fine now.

Loading faster than it has been lately. :D

Thanks TM.

rse

pagar-but NOAA, NSF Geosciences, and NASA are still determined to push this through using their control over education, the social sciences, and de facto communication. I have been doing some reading since the report came out> Now know even more of how this crew is determined to make AGW the excuse and education to method to propagandize citizens into believing they must voluntarily submit.

Plus have done some downloads that Chu world is pushing.

They really are relying on their Pravda press, compliant u admins, and the accreditors to try to foolishly remake the world. Best piece of info from the weekend was that Holdren was at the mtg to push AA ed excellence. That's telling believe it or not.

And take the 2 names you are interested in but use his nickname and Edu4 and social imagination and you should pull up an interesting group.

Ignatz

--Of course that is right. But adding technology just makes it more cool.--

I'm a terrible throwback, doc.
I'd much prefer to see a well oiled hand cranked mill peeling a turning off a piece of bar stock than a high pressure water jet antiseptically vaporizing it.

Janet

On FB -
Dennis Miller
The great Jon Lovitz is filling in for me tomorrow. Stream live on Monday morning at 7:05 AM PST on dennismillerradio.com!

Danube of Thought

Lore had it that the VC made AK47's in bicycle shops, but all the ones I came across had markings clearly indicating they were made in China. I suppose if they had the proper stock they could do it, but I can't imagine how they would ever have felt the need to.

DrJ

Ignatz,

I'm a terrible throwback, doc.

In many ways I am too. Irony, since I develop new instruments.

When I was a graduate student, one was expected to take a machine shop class if one did a lot of experimental work. Once you passed the course, you got a key that allowed you to enter at all hours of the day to fix whatever it was that failed.

We were trained on lathes, milling machines, drill presses, grinders and the like, and I loved it. I made about half of my equipment there.

That course no longer is offered because of liability concerns. So engineering students no longer know the basics of the tooling that is used to make the things they design. This is not good.

On the other hand, I make a lot of use of a laser machinist. Sometimes the newer methods work well for some applications, and better than the old ones did.

My gripe with Insty is that he loves all things new. Simply because something is new and shiny does not mean that it is an improvement on the old ways. Often that's simply not so, and many of the old ways are forgotten.

Frau Fischerin

"I don't get fish tacos. Almost seems like sacrilege.

I don't get not getting fish tacos."

And I don't get no satisfaction if I don't get no fish tacos!
(Only hit will sort through that string of negatives correctly.)

DrJ

I don't get fish tacos. Almost seems like sacrilege.

I don't understand either. Is it cutting up the fish like what is done with Cioppino or other fish stews? Breading it and frying it like is done with fish and chips? What would you make of Pla Tod, which has a deep fried whole fish topped with a firery-hot Thai sauce? Or Indian fish curries? Or is it that fried fish and tacos don't go together?

What I don't get are fish sticks. At least if one no longer is a child.

Donald

Drj. Yes!

hit and run

DrJ:
as I understand it, refried beans are not part of traditional tacos

I would be hard pressed to describe anything I cook as traditional in its methods or ingredients. if anything I cook actually is objectively traditional, it's a happy coincidence.

Sara

DrJ: I promised my kids when I went back to work, that they would never have to eat another fish stick. I used to buy them in bags of 100 for $1.00 at the Navy Commissary and in those early days, before a 2nd paycheck, they were a staple.

Sara

Cheap fish sticks and box macaroni and cheese, also avail. at the Commissary and back then sold for 10 boxes for $1.00.

peter

Apropos of nothing, today would have been by mother's 91st birthday, if she were still alive. You all would have liked her very much.

hit and run

Speaking of cheap, I'm picking up Ramen noodles for the upcoming week. On sale locally for $0.17 per package.

Janet

You all would have liked her very much. Awww, peter! What a lovely little post. I bet we would have.

Ralph L

Jack-in-the-Box greasy tacos with the unknown spicy filling
Loved those 35 years ago. We went to one a few blocks from Katie Couric's HS, if I remember my Arlington schools correctly. Are they still in business?

Janet

Ralph L,
I live near Washington-Lee High School & there is not a Jack-in-the-Box around here now.

hit and run

Closest Jack in the Box to here is Statesville.

Love Jack in the Box tacos. They almost single-handedly turned my brother's wife from vegetarian to carnivore.

Frau Silbersee

peter, you are wonderful to share your mother with us.

matt

That .357 would have a hell of a kick, Mark. Speaking of which the USMC has placed an order for $22.5 Million with Colt's Arms for .45's. My guess is that is something @ 23,000 pistols all told. Not quite a complete distribution, but not too far off for officers and NCO's. Weird number.

I never liked the Beretta 92. Feels like a toy.

The .45 is hard to handle for a lot of people and the 9mm was supposed to be more accurate for more users. Most of the shooting in Afghanistan is at distance, so pistols are a last resort close in firearm. Wonder why the change now.

As far as I know, fish tacos originated somewhere along the Sea of Cortez when I was a kid. We started eating them in Baja when I was a kid. Grilled fish, cabbage, diced tomatoes, and lime juice. Very inexpensive and delicious street food and you knew it wasn't perrones.

Ralph L

I remember going to the Long Beach? Commissary in the late 60's. It was such a hassle, most people would get two carts to cut down on trips. I wonder now if some were reselling to friends.

Five years earlier, my mother left me at the base nursery at Cameron Station in Alexandria while she went to the PX and commissary, and some vicious girl bit my wrist so hard I still had teeth marks when she picked me up. That was the first and last time I can remember being in a nursery.

Jack is Back

We have a Chick-Fil-A in Daytona on International Speedway Blvd. across the street from turn one at DIS. I go there with Frederick for the Chicken sandwich (best in the world according to him and me). I am waiting for the day that the LGBT show up to protest at that spot. Will be worth being a witness to surreal comedy.

BTW, the friendliest, most welcoming fast food joint in America.,

Frau Reibekuchen

I hope if I am put in the old folks' home, there are lots of fish tacos, fish sticks AND internet access. I'll be content. Potato pancakes would be great, too.

hit and run

Heh. Krauthammer throws it right back at WH Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer for his post wrongly calling Krauthammer out on the Churchill bust...


So I suggest Mr. Pfeiffer bring this to a short, painless, and honorable conclusion: a simple admission that he got it wrong and that my assertion was correct. An apology would be nice, but given this White House’s arm’s-length relationship with truth — and given Ryan Zimmerman’s hot hitting — I reckon the Nationals will win the World Series before I receive Pfeiffer’s mea culpa.

Pfeiffer pfvcked up.

Ralph L

Janet, is W-L just north of Rt 7 west of Beauregard (that's where the JitB was), or is that Wakefield? I never knew Arlington very well except for stretches of Rt 7 and W Glebe Road.

Melinda Romanoff

Janet-

If you've driven past a Qdoba Grill, you've driven past a Jack-in-the-Box. Same company, higher quality goods.

Frau Reibekuchen

hit, this entire administration is pfvcked up.

Threadkiller

No global warming?

Does this mean I don't have to fix Hit's air conditioner?

:-)

http://www.sunset.com/food-wine/flavors-of-the-west/in-search-real-fish-taco-00400000013842/

Melinda Romanoff

matt-

Fish tacos were always available on the Yucatan Peninsula, mostly with Xnipec and limes. Not for the faint of heart.

Or the next day, but I digress....

hit and run

Qdoba started in Denver. We used to go there back when they were known as Z-Teca. They changed their name because there was a Z-Tejas grill and the names were too similar.

Donald

That firmed raceway is ground zero for pure see Americana.

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