9/11

I am not sure what a 'Moment of Silence' open thread would look like, so let's find out together.

Comments

[Dave (in MA)]

Acc. to a link on Drudge, CBS & ABC covered the moment of silence at ground zero; NBC talked with a "Kardashian" about fake boobs.

[NK]

I'll never forget.

[Clarice]

There's a touching story in today's Hartford Courant:

http://articles.courant.com/2012-09-10/news/hc-fathers-note-changes-familys-9-11-account-0911-20120910_1_thousand-words-note-rebecca

[Communism is evil~~Communists are the enemy. Sandy]

Melissa Harrington Hughes 9 11 Telephone Message to Husband

via

9/11 + 11

RIP

[Danube of Thought]

Raz:

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Democrat in their district’s congressional race if the election were held today, while 42% would choose the Republican instead. The last time the Democrats held a lead over the Republicans was in late January.

[marlene]

The sky is a heartbreaking bright blue,clear and sunny today.I'll never forget,because the daughter was working on Capitol Hill that day and I don't think I took a breath until she called us. The heroes on United 93 saved many lives,if the plane was intended to hit the Capitol. RIP

[Thomas Collins]

So many stories. See LUN for for the story of one of the heroes.

Rick Rescorla worked quietly and resolutely to prepare for a 9/11 type attack, and then gave his life on 9/11 saving others.

[NK]

Thanks TC, he was a good and selfless man.

[dublindave]

I shed a tear during President Obama's moment of silence.

I thank God we have a strong leader reading the PDB's each and every day AND taking them seriously.

[Sue]

Clarice,

I had just read that and my heart is breaking.

[NK]

Dear Moderator, please remove the DD filth @12:10.

[Dave (in MA)]

Hey Dubby... Did he give a shout out to any of his homies?

[windansea]

time lapse Freedom Tower going up

http://youtu.be/z5_oQfhHLYY

[Gus]

Do yourselves a favor and remind yourself of what Obama said following the attacks.
The LEFT makes me sick.

[rse]

I would be willing to bet very few of today's middle schoolers or even high schoolers have much of a feel for 9/11 anymore. At least outside the NYC area.

The diva and I were talking about that this morning as my eldest always wore something with a flag on the anniversary all through high school.

Hubby was on one of the last flights out on the 10th and then one of the first after they reopened the air. From Atl to Boston went straight over the still smouldering GZ.

[matt]

I just can't listen to or view those things any more. It is seared into my soul. At the time I had an overwhelming desire to read every report; watch every video; talk to friends and family who were there.To try and make sense of such a horrific act.

It was evil in its purest refinement. It was just as powerful as a nuclear bomb in its intensity and I remember being in the city a few weeks later and seeing the smoke still rising from the ruins.

We knew who and we knew how and we knew why very quickly thereafter.Our forces and our allies killed thousands of the cockroaches who fostered the terrorists and the rest scattered, mainly to Pakistan.

And since then, we have generally pissed it all away.We've been hunting down the terrorists, but we have been violating various and sundry national sovereignities and the Geneva Convention to do so; more so under the current administration, by the way.

Iraq was a wash at best, but at least Saddam isn't killing Kurds and Marsh Arabs anymore. Afghanistan is a tragic mess with no progress except perhaps in the northern provinces, which should probably secede.

We now have an internal security apparatus that violates the Constitution 3 ways from Sunday.

And a significant minority of our population believes it's our own damn fault.They would rather believe Matt Lauer and Kim Kardashian and the propaganda machine of the Left than find the facts out for themselves.

And in a deeply troubling way, our government has become unaccountable. It rules us rather than we it. Or at least is attempting to.

And that is what a lot of this election is about to me. There are no nicely tied up with a bow solutions, but we are better than this.

Obama tells us that government is the solution. But it has never been more clear that it is at the heart of the problem. Bureaucracy, sloth, political backbiting, and all sorts of other government vices have grown exponentially in the years since 2001.

I just hope this election can slow the decrepitation.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

I saved a link from PowerlineBlog for some years but it seems to be dead now. If anyone has the google skills to perhaps find it in some new home...I would be grateful.

from Powerline, 2002? 2003?
It was just a few weeks after Sept. 11, 2001, if I remember correctly, that the American broadcast networks embargoed further showings of what happened that day, lest Americans become "angry."... Since that time, images of the Islamofascist attack on America have circulated underground, as a form of samizdata. Reader J. Corley forwarded us this Flash animation, which combines 18th century quotes with September 2001 images.
members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm

[Sue]

Trace Adkins, Welcome to Hell

Come on in son have a seat
Don't mind the screams,don't mind the heat
It's been like this round here for a long,long time
We haven't had the chance to meet
But I've heard about you on TV
And I think we're gonna get along just fine
I can't help but notice
You look somewhat surprised
Did ya think son after what you've done
The Lord would let you slide

Welcome to Hell your new home
You did the crime now you'll do the time
Right where you belong
Welcome to Hell end of the line
Your final sin got you in
And now your soul is mine
Welcome to Hell

I hope for your sake you're the kind
That can stand to burn 'til the end of time
'Cause that's exactly what you're gonna do
There's some spots left on the lake of fire
Where we send your kind to retire
And I picked out a nice little hot spot just for you
I've got one last thing to tell ya
And let me make this clear
I don't know what you've been told
But there ain't no virgins here

Welcome to Hell your new home
You did the crime now you'll do the time
Right where you belong
Welcome to Hell end of the line
Your final sin got you in
And now your soul is mine
Welcome to Hell

Your final sin got you in
And now your ass is mine

Welcome to Hell
Welcome to Hell,boy
You're gonna love it

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

Apologies in advance if this is too flippant on this occasion, but a great one-liner from LI commenter DarkStar58
Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive… and now both are under water

[Agent J]

dublindave | September 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I Just wonder are you a product of the Chicago school system?

I am in contact with many members of the younger generation that are categorized as challenged, some mentally, some physically, some both.

Even they do not conducted themselves as you do. What a disgrace you are to mankind..

[MTF]

Here's to Andy King, a wonderful husband, father, golfer, banker and friend. Rest peacefully buddy- all is well with your family and with North Carolina basketball.

[Danube of Thought]

Can't watch or read.

[Comanche Voter]

The damage went on long after the rubble cooled. I knew a couple who lost a 22 year old daughter who was coming home from Boston after graduating from Boston University. She was a bright and able young woman, who would have been a great contributor to our society. The wounds went deep and the couple later divorced. I suppose some might say it was just collateral damage. Maybe. But some wounds never heal.

And as for Dublin Dave--the dumb donk; President Obama has missed, stepped out, not been present at, more than half of the daily intelligence briefings during his term. Flying to Hollywood for campaign cash, and testing his chip shot onto the green on the third hole have been his "higher priorities". Hell, I'd be happy if he simply showed up and voted "present" at the intelligence briefings.

[NK]

JimMtnView-- all true. The legacy media barred showing images of desperate leapers, and especially the French brothers' documentary scenes from the 1WTC lobby where the sounds of human bodies hitting the concourse pavement was repeated and horrifying, and the reaction to those sounds on the faces of the FDNY firemen was heartbreaking. Many of those Firemen would die within the hour because they went-- they climbed the fire stairs towards the inferno to get to the trapped. They were scared, terrified, maybe they even knew it was a one way climb, but they went, they climbed to try to save others. They were heroes of the highest order. But the Legacy Media will never show those images, I hate those media bastards with a passion.

[Rob Crawford]

Hell, I'd be happy if he simply showed up and voted "present" at the intelligence briefings.

I'd rather the US maintain operational security and exclude him.

[Steven W.]

I had the opportunity to do several homeland defense startup companies after 9/11 and during one of those experiences I went to Ground Zero. At the time, at the one year anniversary, the site had been largely cleared but the fires were still burning beneath the surface. Since then, whenever I've had time to reflect, and it was really years before I could reconcile all those things, the thing I remembered most was that when you come (came) out of the pit, now so nicely filled with the beautiful memorial, you come/came across a little colonial era church - and aside from a corner of the roof that had been knocked askew & a tree in the courtyard had been severed in half by falling debris ... everything else was gone. Never Forget! http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0209/st_pauls/online_extra.html

[Danube of Thought]

Fox News:

"Identifying the Special Operations Force behind the Usama bin Laden raid amounted to placing a target on the back of the team members as well as their families, according to the parents of Aaron Vaughn, a member of SEAL Team Six who was killed in Afghanistan in 2011.

"The Vaughns spoke with Fox News as part of an ongoing report on the war in Afghanistan for an upcoming episode of the 'Fox Files.' While the Vaughns do not believe their son was part of the bin Laden mission, they said the entire team shared the victory, and eventually the shock, of being named.

“'Aaron called me and said, "Mom, you need to wipe your social media clean of any reference to me or any of my buddies. Just disconnect completely,'” Karen Vaughn said her son warned after Vice President Biden publicly identified the SEALs on May 3, 2011 -- two days after the raid.  “He [Aaron] actually said to me, "Mom, there's chatter, and all of our lives could be in danger, including yours" ... then I realized all of those families, you know, you're talking about a community of around three hundred families who were all of a sudden made targets by this administration.'”

[Melinda Romanoff]

Axelrod sends out a commemorative tweet on this day of rememberance.

DuDu, yer a class of work.

[matt]

My nephew was a cop on site that morning, and he told me of the sound of the bodies hitting the ground at terminal velocity and that a couple of people were actually killed on the ground.

I never, ever want to see that again. Maybe as a part of civics class they should show the camps and Stalin's extinction of the kulaks and Nanjing and 9/11, but those horrors should be locked away deep in our psyches in a place where "never again" is burned into our souls.

[lyle]

DuDa confirms he's fucking jerk. Well done, you miserable cretin.

[Porchlight]

I am of the school of thought that we should watch the images and read the accounts every year, so that we never forget.

I know that many individuals do not need this reminder, that they will always remember on their own. But I think the nation does, on the whole, need it. We are too easily lulled back to sleep.

[(A) nuther Bub]

R.I.P. Christine Snyder, UA flt 93, cruelly murdered at age 31. Tireless worker for good causes, new bride, treasured friend. Our flag is out for you today and for our beloved country.

[Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!]

Matt,

I think the first person killed by a plummeting body was the priest of the firefighters - who had gone to help.

I was at Logan Airport.

I don't think I've turned off the TV since that day.

[Dave (in MA)]

time lapse Freedom Tower going up

http://youtu.be/z5_oQfhHLYY

About 3 1/2 years ago, the NY Port Authority announced that it would be known as One World Trade Center rather than Freedom Tower.
Why?

[lyle]

We are too easily lulled back to sleep.

Right where the Dem/press regime wants us. Well, when they're not preaching at us that it was really our fault, you see.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Pitzer knows no end of moochers on the soon to be ending tenure teat.

[NK]

I disagree Matt. Making the images available of the leapers and the sounds of their bodies smashing into the pavement, and the faces of the Firemen and Cops listening to that nightmare is NOT gratuitous. It is truth. It is the truth showing the horrific result of unchecked jihad, and it shows the bravery of American men, Firemen and Cops who went, despite the danger, the horror and the terror. They went and climbed the stairs towards the inferno. We must never forget their heroism and sacrifice.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

One of the many dead, who I never met but who impressed me when I saw her on TV, was Barbara Olson.
RIP.

[NK]

PS: it is completely understandable why someone of good faith would refuse to watch or listen. That is everyone's right. The moral crime is the Legacy Media's embargo of the information, which denies people who do want to see what happened that day, access to recorded history. The legacy media's embargo is self-serving because they are afraid that those sights and sounds will contradict their warped narrative of benign jihad.

[Danube of Thought]

A New York firefighter told me--long before 9/11--that the sound of bodies hitting the street gave him nightmares, and was the hardest thing he had to endure.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

I tend to agree with NK.
We should not forget and we should force ourselves to view.

Because Jamie Gorelick and Bill Clinton slept, we got 9/11.

We've seen the priorities of their ilk and they are despicable.

[NK]

Just to be clear: I would never force anyone to watch scenes and hear sounds of horror. That's every adult's personal choice. People are free to avoid seeing ugly truthes. But the opposite is happening, people are being denied the choice of witnessing recorded history by the the legacy media. That is the wrong that needs to be recified.

[sbw]

Our Canadian and American Eastern Air Defense Sector noted a moment of silence and continued to scan the airspace over locations where 9/11 memorials were being held today.

A wonderful, skilled, dedicated team they are.

[lyle]

The media can't show those awful images because it might cause you wingnutz to get all Islamophobic and stuff. You're nothing but barely constrained savages anyway what with your guns and religion. Best not to incite you.

[fdcol63]

We should be reminded everyday of the horrors that radical Islamic jihadists wish to visit upon us.

People need to watch the planes smashing into the towers, people jumping to their deaths, hear the struggles that occurred in the cockpit of Flight 93, see the aftermath of bus and VBIED bombings, and even watch the videos of Muslims beheading Americans and other Christians.

We need to be fully aware, and reminded, of their barbarism everyday in order to fully understand why we must fight and defeat them in this long, long struggle.

There is no co-existence with radical Islam. It is indeed US or THEM.

[Rob Crawford]

The media can't show those awful images because it might cause you wingnutz to get all Islamophobic and stuff. You're nothing but barely constrained savages anyway what with your guns and religion. Best not to incite you.

Yet someone claims to have seen a large book flushed and it becomes world-wide news. Someone else claims they will burn a large book and it becomes world-wide news.

[fdcol63]

If we were really Islamaphobic and violent, there wouldn't have been a single mosque left in the US on 9/12.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

"If we were really Islamaphobic and violent, there wouldn't have been a single mosque left in the US on 9/12."

But instead our tax dollars go for this...
Michael Yon: "Last year at this time, US combat troops were fighting hard in Zhari District, Afghanistan. This is the birthplace of the Taliban. Did you know that US forces refurbished Mullah Omar's mosque there in 2011?"

[Jack is Back]

His moment of silence:)

Uncle Joe: "This is No Bulls**t"

Of course, like everything at this WH its all about beer.

[NK]

Lyle@1:22-- is that you Pinch Sulzberger?

[fdcol63]

"Did you know that US forces refurbished Mullah Omar's mosque there in 2011?"

Proving .. in THEIR eyes ... that we are indeed the "weak horse" that's so stupid that we don't recognize the real threat they pose.

[NJ Jan]

I remember the ash and smoke that drifted even to our NJ community. I remember waiting and hoping to hear good news about a dear friend 's son -- it was his first day at work at Cantor Fitzgerald. Unfortunatley, the news that came was horrific. I remember my younger daughter working at the Y after care and staying with the children waiting for their parents to come home from work in the city -- not all did. And I remember the funerals I attended in the weeks after. It is a day I can't and will not ever forget.

[NK]

OT-- here comes QE3; so invariably Dollar Down, Oil prices Up, gas and food prices to follow. Why does Ben B detest American families this bitterly? Anyway, if I can get a 3% fixed 10 year refi to spruce up the house, I'll go for it -- I'm paying for it with food and fuel inflation, I might as well get some almost free money.

[Jack is Back]

Frederick's journal entry for 9/11/2012:

"11 years ago today, America was attacked by radical Islamist terrorist from Al-Queda. They flew planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The brave passengers of flight 93 were able to make them crash into a field in Pennsylvania. They attacked us because we are Saudia Arabia's protectors. That is why we commemorate the lives lost on this day every year. God Bless America."

Please no arguing with me about the Saudi bit but that is one of the facts of Al-Queda outrage especially bin Laden. Why Frederick decided to credit that motivation, you'll just have to ask him but remember he wasn't even alive when this happened so everything he knows is from me, Mrs. JiB, school, TV and independent reading.

[lyle]

Gee, know who else is really into guns and religion? I mean, REALLY, REALLY into guns and religion?

The "religion of peace."

[Jim Rhoads a/k/a vjnjagvet]

I believe neither the Clinton nor the Bush administration could have done much to prevent the 9/11 attack.

But anyone who thinks that jihaddists have tempered the kind of hatred that resulted in that atrocity are deluded, blind or willfully ignorant.

I can't understand why no one has set as a national goal doing whatever it takes to prevent militant islamists from gaining power in this country either by overt attacks or by subversion. This does not mean making scapegoats of muslims who love this country and its traditions. But why anyone would encourage those who seek to destroy us is incomprehensible to me.

Sadly, this administration has made it its official policy to do just that. It must be defeated in November if for no other reason than to honor those who died on 9/11.

[Danube of Thought]

I'd say Frederick catches on pretty fast, JiB.

[cathyf]

I think the first person killed by a plummeting body was the priest of the firefighters - who had gone to help.

Fr Mychal Judge was designated as victim 0001 at the WTC because his body was immediately removed from the rubble, and so the first formally identified to the coroner. He was killed when the South Tower collapsed and sent debris into the North Tower lobby, where Fr Mychal was praying with the injured and anointing the dying and the dead.

[lyle]

that we are indeed the "weak horse" that's so stupid that we don't recognize the real threat they pose.

And what they'd like to do again by orders of magnitude greated given the means. But don't worry, wingnutz, the press assures you it's all your feverish imagination. And Bush is to blame.

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

I was impressed with Frederick's entry too.

[NK]

Fr Judge was a character. He was FDNY Chaplain, gave blessings at many public events including Fleetweeks. He loved people. He loved God.

[lyle]

This does not mean making scapegoats of muslims who love this country and its traditions.

Then it sure would be nice to hear some of them prominently and loudly condemn their fellow religious adherents' hatred of said country.

[daddy]

Patty Ann Browne of FOX News was co-hosting FOX First this morning starting at 1 AM my time. She had the role of mentioning 9/11 and as she started she broke down, and her co-host had to take over, advising the audience how many dear friends Patty Ann lost on 9/11.
It was unexpected and very moving.

[jimmyk]

Do yourselves a favor and remind yourself of what Obama said following the attacks.

You mean this?

"We should also examine the foreign policies of the the U.S. to make sure that we occupy the moral high ground in these conflicts. In particular, we have to examine some of the root causes of this terrorist activity."

Still more material for Romney (but not today).

[Rob Crawford]

Then it sure would be nice to hear some of them prominently and loudly condemn their fellow religious adherents' hatred of said country.

It happens from time to time. The turnout tends to be in the low dozens, sadly.

[Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?]

Michael Yon: "Last year at this time, US combat troops were fighting hard in Zhari District, Afghanistan. This is the birthplace of the Taliban. Did you know that US forces refurbished Mullah Omar's mosque there in 2011?"

I didn't know that, Jim (or don't remember it). Wow. We are so messed up.

[peter]

Puke alert. LUN.

[Extraneus]

I can never forget the still smoldering WTC a few days after 9/11, and all the "Have you seen this person" posters plastered everywhere, and people who looked like they hadn't slept or showered walking up to me with photos in their hands asking "Have you seen my daughter" or "Have you seen my dad?" or "Have you seen my wife?" And the looks in their eyes.

We should make sure to show our children the videos of what happened that day.

[cathyf]

I think Frederick is quite right -- AQ did have as a prominent grievance that the US had troops stationed in Saudi Arabia. In some ways I think that was the most brilliant anti-AQ propaganda aspect of the Iraq war. So AQ murders 3000+ Americans to force us to get out of Saudi Arabia? Fine, we'll invade Iraq, take down Hussein, and, yeah, leave Saudi Arabia.

When it's done, the only Muslims who believe that the US ever had any DESIRE to be in Saudi Arabia are the nutjobs. And the non-nutjobs have irrefutable evidence that at least one of AQ's grievances was utterly delusional.

As a propaganda move, this is masterful. Instead of arguing against AQ (thereby engaging them) you just make their stupidity obvious.

[Free State Paul]

I'm a long-time lurker, but I finally have to break my silence to ask, "What is LUN?"

[Sue]

Obama has declined to meet with Netanyahu.

[lyle]

It happens from time to time. The turnout tends to be in the low dozens, sadly.

Color me impressed. I had it in the low nothings.

[lyle]

Link Under Name

[Rob Crawford]

Obama has declined to meet with Netanyahu.

Lucky for Netanyahu -- don't wanna get short-timer cooties.

Free State Paul -- LUN == "Link Under Name"; it means someone's put the link they're talking about where clicking on their name will take you to it.

[Extraneus]

US slips from No. 1 to also-ran in global economic rankings

Out-ranking America are: Switzerland, Singapore, Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany.

[Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?]

Free State Paul -
Link Under Name. Just click on the name of the poster & the article they are referring to is linked.

[Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?]

It is an easy way to link articles. Just copy the address in the Web Site URL box & then post LUN if you want readers to know.

[Ignatz]

As bad as that day was I often think how bad it could have been had they hijacked planes a couple of hours later and hit the towers at the 15th or 20th floor instead.
30,000 instead of 3,000?

[Thomas Collins]

Well, Free State Paul, now that you have unlurked, why not post when the fancy hits you. After all, the status of being "unlurked" is like the status of being pregnant. You're not a little or a lot unlurked, you're now fully unlurked whether or not you post, so why not post!

[Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!]

I've had several appointments out of the office today, and I'm moved by the fact everyone is talking about where they were on 9-11 and how it changed them, and us.

Never ever forget.

[Free State Paul]

Linked Under Name -- never would have figured that out on my own in a million years! I kept thinking LUN was some other blog or news service, like JOM or NYT.

Thanks, everyone!

[NK]

It could have been worse, it was bad enough. A good friend stayed with his COO and secretary at his company offices next to the NYSE to route to off site servers all business records. They finished by 300 and started the journey up Broadway to leave the closed off Downtown area. They were walking through ankle deep ash in spots; it dawned on his secy what could have been contained in the ash. She became hysterical on the street. Less than a block away was a heartbreaking sight, dozens of waiting empty NYFD emergency ambulances. Heartbreaking? they were all unneeded because of the few collapse survivors. One of the emergency ambulances took the woman uptown. I'll never forget that day.

[Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!]

Uh - the literal transation is: "Link under-my name".

Clearly someone screwed up!

[Danube of Thought]

Whenever someone says "root cause," I reach for my revolver.

[Sue]

I still remember hearing the chirping and not understanding at first what it was. A reporter explained that it was the emergency locators for fireman in distress. That sound has never left me.

[rse]

It would also have been far worse if it were not an election day AND the first day of school. Both had employees who normally would have already been in office coming in later.

I think those of us who are parents have a special obligation with respect to 9/11 to use it as an opportunity to pass on the important knowledge to our children that evil exists. That if you put down your arms, many will simply use that as an opportunity to attack. That individual freedom is one of the rarest conditions in human history and that those who value it are always a threat to those who wish to subjugate. Keep it in the context of great history stories but that's such an important lesson.

I am so tired of all these schemers wanting to teach children that human nature is essentially good and that good intentions will be met in kind, especially once poverty is alleviated by fiat grants.

Well, I got popped off a server again. This time reading Gorby's June 18, 2012 Climate Change Task Force Report. Something to finish in the carpool line.

I do not like getting Senge, Gorby, and Van Jones on same page. Especially along with Orr who wrote that "What is Education For?" now being recirculated after 20 years of hiatus.

jib-invitation only and am working on it.

[maryrose]

NJ Jan
I'm so sorry for the sadness you and your daughter endured on that day. Your support to your friends must have meant so much. I will never forget the shock and horror of that day.
Pops; i totally agree with your statements. Keep posting.
I LOVE the fact that The Navy Seal is poking holes in the Obama version of getting Bin Laden. I secretly believe that Panetta does not respect Obama that much and I hope the press and Romney ask Obama why he authorized the release of this intel.

[Appalled]

As a thought exercise, I thought I would check out the newspapers of December 7/December 8, 1952 to see how the press covered a similar anniversary.

Unfortunately, there was no Hawaii newspaer in the google archives -- so I could not do this exactly. But from the Deseret News (Salt Lake City), page 1, and page 6A one learns:

* Eisenhower was sailing back from a fact-finding trip to Korea. Though he was heading to Hawaii, no special ceremony at Pearl Harbor was mentioned in the reports.

* A Japanese envoy in 1941 refuted a claim by Joseph C. Grew, the US ambassador to Japan (1941) that, had FDR met with the Japanese PM before December 7, Pearl Harbor could have been averted;

* GOP Senator Homer Ferguson of MI called on the incoming Eisenhower Administration to investigate the Pearl Harbor attack, because he never felt all the facts about the attack had been made public

So, the one difference was that, by 1952, big public memorials were out for December 7, but we, in 2012, still seem to demand them for September 11. BUT, in 1952, we had whiny governmental officials complaining that, if only they had been listened to, all this would have been avoided, AND, in 1952, anniversaries were used as a time to remind everyone of their favorite conspiracy theories.

I have tried to LUN the Deseret News...No guarantees this is going to work.

[NJ Jan]

Thanks Mary Rose. My comments could stand for many who live in the metropolitan area. My experience was not unique. One of the things that mystifies me is how people in this area can come out of an experience like that and support the Democrat party. They seem to be blind to the radical left in the party. If the comments and actions of some liberals after 9/11 wasn't a wake up call, I truly don't know what would be.

[fdcol63]

Tolerance ends when one's religion and opinion openly call for your death.

[Melinda Romanoff]

Free Market Paul-

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Please make your check out to SCAM, Inc. and don't hesitate to pick up our brochure on pikes and island getaways next to the payment window.

Thank you for your attention today.

[Danube of Thought]

"ask Obama why he authorized the release of this intel."

He didn't. It just blurted out of the mouth of his idiot VP.

[Danube of Thought]

Appalled, have you by any chance been to the USS Arizona Memorial?

[OldTimer]

With all the destructive forces of Satan and his minions lined up against Israel, I am damn incensed - livid - that the little puke Barry dares to snub Netanyahu's request for a meeting.

The Israeli's embrace and depend upon the same principles of liberty and freedom as America. When Obama stabs them in the back, he's stabbing us in the back too.

[bunky]

'member the '04 campaign when kerry ran ads that said Bush continued to read to the school kids even after he knew of the attack?

[Melinda Romanoff]

US Embassy in Egypt being stormed. Flag down.-twitter

[Jim,MtnViewCA,USA]

Another memory: how quiet it was in the days after 9/11, when all the planes were grounded.

And, as Mark Steyn noted, our first victory was on that day as brave passengers plowed Flight 93 into the ground instead of allowing the Muslims to crash it into a target.

Todd Beamer and fellow passengers: "Let's Roll."
You are an inspiration.
RIP

[Rick Ballard]

Who should Obama bow to to fix that up, Mel?

[Danube of Thought]

I would also point out that the targets of the December 7, 1941 attack were military, and by the time of the 11th anniversary of the attack our armed forces had defeated the enemy in great detail, and it had formally surrendered and been occupied.

[Appalled]

DoT:

No, I haven't. I have been to Normandy Beach, though.

By "Big Public Memorials", I meant things like the gatherings that are done for 9-11. (Such as all the Congressmen on the lawn. The VP at the Pennsylvania crash site. There is nothing analagous to that done back in 1952. (A standing memorial is a very different thing.)