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peter

And yet Rasmussen is at minus twelve today.

Thomas Collins

I eagerly await Tapper's update to his article, in which I just know Tapper will point out that Obama's statement after the brutal murder of our diplomatic personnel also in substance contained an apology to the murderers.

Danube of Thought

At what point does a majority of the electorate conclude that this graud is an utter failure?

C.R.

There is no way, even in this day and age, that American's will stand for that Rose Garden lame excuse for a statement once they see the pictures of the Ambassador "being taken to the hospital".

windansea

it appears that we had no Marines stationed at this embassy, the 2 that were killed were sent in as violence escalated.

Security was being provided by lybyans, who after transfering Ambassador Stevens to a more secure building in the compound, then betrayed his location to the rioters.

Romney needs to get on this.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/12/cbs-libyan-security-team-fingered-us-ambassador-to-be-killed/

(A) nuther Bub

OT, I guess. But among other bad news is that Obama holds a 10-point lead with Catholic voters, according to a Church-sponsored national survey. LUN for a link to the Daily Caller's article.

Dave (in MA)

Today's SoS sartorial selection is certainly of a more sombre hue than any of the usual Pantsuit Rainbow options.

Captain Hate

Exactly, TC; Tapper's reflexive response is to defend the JEF no matter what the facts are.

Ralph L

NPR was abusing Romney this morning for not mentioning Afghanistan in his accept speech, so he had to react quickly.

Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?

Ya figure the WaPo "On Faith" team still figures that Christians need to read the q''u'ra''n''' more?

Ralph L

protesting a film made in the U.S. which insults the Muslim prophet Muhammad.(CBS)
AKA telling the truth about him?

NK

Are there Marines at every Consulate worldwide? Benghazi was not the Embassy, Stevens traveled from the Embassy to Benghazi, where he was attacked and murdered.

maryrose

Leaving our security up to the Libyans is a tragic Obama mistake in judgment. He needs to be fired pronto. This topic MUST be covered at the debates and the hard questions must be asked. We needed our own Marines there and once again Mr. Midas touch has turned everything he touches into ash. I am disgusted by his Wimpy{I'm scairt"] comments in the Rose Garden. President as poseur must end.

MarkO

I favor Romney not leading from behind.

windansea

“I ask myself, how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?” Clinton said.

maryrose

Romney should hit Oblammy daily on his lack of foreign policy expertise and his desire to go on Letterman and take trips to Vegas instead of protecting our people overseas.

Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?

Again...here are Obama's words from his weekly address on Sept. 8th.

"...And our country is stronger, safer and more respected in the world.
Instead of turning on each other, we’ve resisted the temptation to give in to mistrust and suspicion. I have always said that America is at war with al Qaeda and its affiliates – and we will never be at war with Islam or any other religion. We are the United States of America. Our freedom and diversity make us unique, and they will always be central to who we are as a nation."

I don't think most of our leaders have any idea what Islam teaches. They don't understand deep religious beliefs. Maybe if we compared Islam to their "green" religion they would understand. Maybe not though...the Islamists are willing to die for their religion while the "greens" are willing to let other people die for theirs.

MTF

The President is so supremely confident the press will turn this story into a "Romney gaffe" story that he's heading to Las Vegas for some good ol time fundraising.

My belief is that each and every one of these reporters should be embedded with the Marine protection force in Cairo right after the Romney inauguration is complete. That would send a valuable message to the propaganda organs of the Democrat party.

Rick Ballard

Romney Statement

There may have been another yesterday evening but the link is to the campaign website. It's an articulation of principles so I can understand the MFM dismay.

BOzo the Buttkisser is back in form.

Sara

Haven't seen Robin Wright in years. Interesting.

Jack is Back

Chickens coming home to roost. The Chicken of appeasement and failure to note who the number enemy of the USA really is: The Islamic Religion of Peace. It is a religion of paranoia and violence. That is how they solve all problems.

If their problem is a woman, they stone her or kill her.
If their problem is Christianity, they kill Christians.
If their problem is Freedom, they kill Americans
If their problem is a cartoon or a film, they kill indiscriminately.

Get the picture?

And The JEF has time for old gap-tooth but not for the leader of the future land of molten glass. What a despicable POS we have as our President.

Clarice

Were the same security guards who fingered them, the guys "taking the Amb to the hospital". I think so. The first account said a "contractor" took a picture of the man believed to be the Amb.. I read contractor as local guard.
what was our genius Sec of State's comment some months ago "We came, we saw, Gaddafi's dead" ?

Children playing cops and robbers.

Ralph L

I wonder if we should have an muslim outrage of the day until they tire of it or become inured. Or are these riots too orchestrated?

Sara

Ralph: You haven't been listening. According to Hill and Barry, this was a small rogue group of super militants ... the real gov't and real Libyans, who are waaaaaaay over in Tripoli, are good people or something like that.

rse

I can't imagine tonight's network news broadcasts. If they are accurate, they put reelection in acute jeopardy. If they fail to cover a story this atrocious, they put themselves in jeopardy.

When the college set is upset you put the Kardashians and boob jobs over a tribute to 9/11 losses, your long term survival really is at risk.

NK

Wind@1208-- HildaBeast didn't really say that, did she?

MTF

Bill Keller is right on cue, with his NYT op-ed (followed by by a blog post) suggesting we let Iran have nuclear weapons.

After all, what could go wrong? A nuclear arms race in the Moslem Brotherhood-dominated middle east, armageddon in Israel? All those are reasonable risks, in Keller's eyes, in order to re-elect Barack Obama.

MTF

Oops! Sorry about that link misfiring. Here's the Keller "thought" piece. Something only a Democrat propagandist would think reasonable, but there you go.

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Can someone tell me the time line: The movie trailor is show in Cairo and they burn the American flag -the protests spread to Libya where the ambassador is killed.

Is that what happened.

Clarice

Jane, my guess is Iran orchestrated all of this. Mosri met with Imadinner jacket just before the Embassy was attacked.

DublinDave


Democrats, let's bring home the dead so that their families can bury them.

Let's bring the scum that did this to justice and let's inject some stability back into the region.

Let Romney use this tragedy to get elected...... we've more important work to do!

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Good point Clarice - but do I have the order correct?

Ignatz

--Let's bring the scum that did this to justice and let's inject some stability back into the region.--

Your effing genius, Ear Leader, put the scum that did this into power.
And his Cairo speech greenlighting Islamists and his subsequent support of same did more to destabilize the place than anything else that readily comes to mind.

Sara

Re: Keller Sounds more like what I hear from the Paulbots, than dem talking points to reelect Obama.

Brother of al-Qaeda Ayman al Zawahri was at the Cairo embassy with the rioters.

Ignatz

As to Romney waiting, had our embassy not disgraced the nation he could have and probably would have.
As it is the president re-disgraced us by repeating the embassy's wretched kowtowing after repudiating it.

He's done John Kerry one better by being for it and against it at the same time.

NK

Even DD's mailing it in now-- he knows Bam's a loser in November.

windansea

Wind@1208-- HildaBeast didn't really say that, did she?

Posted by: NK | September 12, 2012 at 12:40 PM

yes she did, here's video at BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19576729

Danube of Thought

50-43 at Gallup.

daddy

Is Obama still "On" for Letterman and "Off" for Netanyahu?

Last night the excuse from the White House was it was too tough to get their 2 schedules to mesh. If anyone has an update, please keep us posted.

NK

Romney was rightly concerned that last night Bam would be smart and look presidential and giving a speech condemnining religious fanatical violence, supporting free expression and saying this Jihadism is not what he supported in his Cairo speech and in the Arab Spring. That would have really helped Bam. Instead last night and this morning Bam and Hil doubled down on stupid. So Romney took that opportunity and helped himself -- alot. Goodbye Bam.

Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?

Here's that August WaPo "On Faith" column - What Catholics Can Learn From The Quran

She is delighted with the Q''u'r''an'''.

Melinda Romanoff

Tunisian embassy now.

James D.

DoT - which one is the 50, and which one is the 43?

daddy

I clicked on Janet's LUN from the previous thread and whatdoya'know,
Reporter Joe Klein is angry about all this stuff all right. And who does he blame?

The Jews.

Wake up Jewish Voters. Please.

James D.

This is getting to be a broken record. Joe Klein. Lying asshole. Die in a fire.

These people deserve no respect, no regard, no consideration as fellow citizens or even really fellow humans at all. They've voluntarily turned in their membership as members of the human race by their lies, their slanders, their propagandazing for enemies of their own civilization.

Sorry, I'm just a little angry and bitter about the MSM these days.

Jack is Back

Did you all read the Hollywood Reporter interview with D'Souza?

He flat came out and said JEF is a Muslim and a Manchurian candidate.

If the shoe fits......

Captain Hate

Be kind to Joke Line; after nearly drowning in the kiddy pool he's obviously short on coherent thoughts. It might take a while for him to achieve his stature as a giant in his field, whatever that might be.

Danube of Thought

I've got it! Obama should address the nation from the Oval Office, and announce that "Secretary Clinton and I have decided to inject some stability into the Middle East."

Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?

Footage of the Cairo Embassy takeover.

We should have removed all our Embassy people...waited for the cheering allah akbar crowds to get really big....& then blown the place up.

Porchlight

JiB,

It is impossible not to think of The Manchurian Candidate when watching 2016.

If it weren't so damned depressing I'd find the DVD and watch it again.

Porchlight

JiB, I found a Hollywood Reporter interview with D'Souza but there were no Muslim or Manchurian Candidate comments. Do you have a link? I may be missing something, it's a big site.

Here's the one I found:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/2016-obamas-america-documentary-barack-dinesh-dsouza-369598

DebinNC

CBS:
"Al-Sharef said two U.S. Marines sent to Benghazi when the clash erupted were shot and killed by the well-armed protesters. It was not immediately clear whether the Marines were part of Stevens' security detail."

I want to know who sent those two Marines to their death. And we should be hearing the names of all four killed, not just Amb Stevens.

NK

Is Hillary drunk all the time these days. She's as vacuous as the NOTSO-Albright moron.

C.R.

Former Secretary of State and current Hoover Institution Stanford University professor Condoleezza Rice issued a statement, too, calling Stevens a "wonderful officer and a terrific diplomat who was dedicated to the cause of freedom. His service in the Middle East was legendary."

Janet - Why does Johnny Depp hate the poor? pourquoi?

The religion of Islam must be pretty weak if they have to fear some YouTube low budget film. I guess they are afraid that if the people of the ME see it they won't believe anymore.
I'm rootin' for the video maker.

NK

C.R. -- now I'm really more angry. America lost a good man plus 2 marines because of the feckless anti-american Bam Choom crew.

DebinNC

I don't want to hear kudos about Stevens until we hear the same about the other three killed. For all we know, Stevens made some poor decisions which resulted in the death of the other 3 who had to follow his orders.

C.R.

That last post should all have been in quotes. LUN

Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

Repeat from a prev thread, from commenter Henry H at LegalInsurrection:

Libya has just set the US consulate on fire. Obama sending ship loaded with marshmallows.

NK

CH--- hey it's happy hour somewhere.....

Jane - Get off the couch your country needs you!

Sorry, I'm just a little angry and bitter about the MSM these days.

I am angrier at the media than any other cause for what has happened to this country, including Obama.

C.R.

Jack is Back - I think you may have misread the Deadline Holywood interview posted at Drudge. I had to read it twice, because the first time I thought the same thing that you did and it seemed odd to me after seeing the movie.

Here's the key excerpt:
D’SOUZA: Look, what I say is it’s not that Obama hates America. It’s not that he’s a traitor, that he’s a secret Muslim, that he’s a Manchurian Candidate. He simply subscribes to an ideology that thinks it would be good for America to have a diminished economy and a diminished role in the world. In other words, Obama is all about what he perceives as global justice. And global justice to him means a redistribution of wealth and power away from America and towards the rest of the world. That’s his ideology. He thinks it would be good for America to have a humbler role in the world. LUN

Rob Crawford
I am angrier at the media than any other cause for what has happened to this country

Their job is to be the watchdogs. They chose to become lapdogs.

They should be treated like mad dogs.

boris

The media is just one of the more obvious symptoms of the problem.

Communism is evil~~Communists are the enemy.                      Sandy

It is a good time to re-read the Sarah's comments, posted last night by OldTimer. The Sarah has never said anything I disagree with, sometimes her comments are so good, they just require rereading:

Apparently President Obama can’t see Egypt and Libya from his house. On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attacks ever perpetrated on America, our embassy in Cairo and our consulate in Benghazi were attacked by violent Islamic mobs. In Cairo, they scaled the walls of our embassy, destroyed our flag, and replaced it with a black Islamic banner. In Benghazi, the armed gunmen set fire to our con
sulate and killed an American staff member. The Islamic radicals claim that these attacks are in protest to some film criticizing Islam. In response to this, the U.S. embassy in Cairo issued a statement that was so outrageous many of us thought it must be a satire. The embassy actually apologized to the violent mob attacking us, and it even went so far as to chastise those who use free speech to “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” (Funny, the current administration has no problem hurting the “religious feelings” of Catholics.)

But where is the president’s statement about this? These countries represent his much touted “Arab Spring.” How’s that Arab Spring working out for us now? Have we received an apology yet from our “friends” in the Muslim Brotherhood for the assault on our embassy?

It’s about time our president stood up for America and condemned these Islamic extremists. I realize there must be a lot on his mind these days – what with our economy’s abysmal jobless numbers and Moody’s new warning about yet another downgrade to our nation’s credit rating due to the current administration’s failure to come up with a credible deficit reduction plan. And, of course, he has a busy schedule – with all those rounds of golf, softball interviews with the “Pimp with the Limp,” and fundraising dinners with his corporate cronies. But our nation’s security should be of utmost importance to our Commander-in-chief. America can’t afford any more “leading from behind” in such a dangerous world. We already know that President Obama likes to “speak softly” to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a “big stick” to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.

- Sarah Palin

We already know that President Obama likes to “speak softly” to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a “big stick” to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.

Just so.

Danube of Thought

Actual exchange on MSNBC:

MIKE BARNICLE: Given this supposed minister’s role in last year’s riots in Afghanistan, where people died, and given his apparent or his alleged role in this film, where, not yet nailed down, but at least one American, perhaps the American ambassador is dead, it might be time for the Department of Justice to start viewing his role as an accessory before or after the fact.

DONNY DEUTSCH: I was thinking the same thing, yeah.

Captain Hate

Can't let the loss of an ambassador and support staff get in the way of going to a fundraiser and the pap-toothed predator's show. Priorities, people.

Communism is evil~~Communists are the enemy.                      Sandy

posted on Red Storm Rising by mistake:

America does not contribute to World peace by being less secure,

Americans are not safer when the US Military is weaker,

When US Embassies are overrun, when US Ambassadors are assassinated, the world becomes less secure, and Americans less safe.

This is not the "Smart Diplomacy" we were promised.

This is pissing away the moral certainty and physical strength earned through too much Blood, lots of Sweat, and continuing Tears.

Jim Croce used to sing about not pulling on Superman's cape.

Well, that was then, today under voldemort, it is expected--and we'll apologize too.

Did I mention I HATE the cabal with every fiber of my being?

YGBSM.

Clarice

(WASHINGTON) – Congressman Allen West (R-FL) released the following statement this morning upon learning of the attack on the United States Ambassador to Libya and three other Americans:

“Less than 24 hours after our nation remembered the heinous attacks of September 11, 2001, Americans find their sovereign soil attacked again as more American lives are lost at the hands of intolerant, barbaric, radical Muslims.

United States Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, and several embassy staff were murdered late yesterday when suspected religious extremists stormed the United States Consulate in Benghazi. This morning, my condolences and prayers go out to the families of the victims.

Americans need to question whether the deaths of these innocent patriots could have been avoided. The Obama Administration touted the Arab Spring as an awakening of freedom, which we now see is a nightmare of Islamism.

Even more concerning, is the initial response to these attacks last night from the embassy officials of the Obama Administration was to apologize for a Facebook video that supposedly hurt Muslim feelings. President Obama’s policy of appeasement towards the Islamic world has manifested itself into a specter of unconscionable hatred.

How anyone can believe this President is strong on national security and foreign policy is beyond my comprehension. President Obama has clearly surpassed former President Jimmy Carter and his actions during the Iranian Embassy crisis as the weakest and most ineffective person to ever occupy the White House.”

Clarice

DoT, Barnicle does better when he just makes shit up..Gosh those two are dangerously stupid!!

Stephanie

DOT one more dunce in the "jail the filmmaker" for killing the ambassador saga.

Like Obama she has also locked her twitter account so that she doesn't have to respond to criticism...

LUN

DublinDave

"I want to know who sent those two Marines to their death. And we should be hearing the names of all four killed, not just Amb Stevens."

There'll be a full investigation into how events unfolded yesterday.

Securing other embassies is of paramount importance right now, as is bringing the dead home.

Captain Hate

Barnicle still believes JFK Jr was the most skilled pilot since Chuck Yeager.

daddy

After listening to the Media and our Administration harping on this Coptic Movie none of us has ever heard of, I ask the same question as last night. Why didn't the Terrorists in Egypt and Libya attack the British Embassy?

From yesterday's UK Mail: Screening of controversial Channel 4 documentary on history of Islam cancelled after presenter is threatened

"Channel 4 has been forced to cancel a screening of the controversial documentary Islam: The Untold Story, after the presenter was threatened with physical violence."

"The programme has already been aired on Channel 4, sparking more than 1,200 complaints, but the broadcaster was planning a screening for 'opinion formers' at its London headquarters later this month."

"Critics have accused Holland of distorting the history of the religion in Islam: The Untold Story.
His investigation into its origins claimed that there is little written contemporary evidence about the prophet Mohammed.
He also suggests the Koran makes little or no reference to Islam’s holy city of Mecca, and argues there is no evidence for the general assertion that Islam began 'fully formed' in the 7th century."

So that derogatory documentary, dismissive of Muhammed and Islam, has already been shown on BBC TV, one of England's four State channels total.

How come the protestors aren't incensed, upset, angry, livid, murderous and justified in being driven crazy by that British flick that people have seen and do know about?

Why aren't they burning down the British Embassy in Egypt and Libya ?

Why isn't a single talking head on TV or any show telling us that this Brit movie exists, that it's already been show and pissed off the British Muslim TV watching public much more than this unknown film has, and start a discussion of why the hell didn't these angry protestors go nuts about it?

The lack of curiosity and logical thinking by our Media, once they have their "Blame America" talking points in their heads, is stunning.


marlene

I'm still confused about the Ambassdor's death. The news reports say he and staffers were taken to a "safe" building.Was that before or after the RPGs were fired at the car? When was he "suffocated"? Before,during or after he was dragged thru the streets? I haven't been watching TV, has the picture of his body been shown on any news outlets? If so,do the reports claim he is being helped to the hospital?

Rob Crawford
The news reports say he and staffers were taken to a "safe" building.

Yes -- and then the local "security" pointed the "safe" building out to the mob.

Danube of Thought

Consider the implications of what those two morons are saying: criticizing a religion is not only the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, it can be criminally prosecuted. Unless, of course, the religion is Judaism or Christianity, in which case have at it.

ROA

If we are going to look at pastor Terry Jones as an accessory, what about Bill Maher? He has said the Koran is a hate filled holy book among many other anti-Muslim comments. And why did Obama accept a million dollar campaign contribution from such an islamophobe?

Danube of Thought

CNN:

"A Libyan doctor who treated Stevens said he died of severe asphyxiation, apparently from smoke. In a sign of the chaos of during the attack, Stevens was brought alone by Libyans to the Benghazi Medical Center with no other Americans, and no one at the facility knew who he was, the doctor, Ziad Abu Zeid, told The Associated Press.

"Stevens was practically dead when he arrived close to 1 a.m. on Wednesday, but 'we tried to revive him for an hour and a half but with no success,' Abu Zeid said. The ambassador had bleeding in his stomach because of the asphyxiation but no other injuries, he said."


Enlightened

I am infuriated beyond words. This administration is disgusting. The pictures on Drudge are so heinous and so typical of Radical Islamists. Sorry but I wish US forces (ie 50 elite Marines) go into that f--ing hell hole and just blow the shit out of those pigs.

Allen West is so professional and his words in regards to the asshole running our country are utterly awesome. Underneath that professional exterior I am sure he is as infuriated as I am.

Thank goodness my Democratic parents taught me right and wrong. It's the only thing keeping me from just cold-cocking the shit out of the next stupid liberal I see right in their vagina or mangina.

Danube of Thought

Breitbart:

"According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff."

Rob Crawford

LUN: Obama skipped briefings week leading up to attacks on embassies.

fdcol63

We're living in a Bizarro World where down is up, left is right, black is white, negative is positive, and evil is good.

We're on the Other Side of the Looking Glass.

Clarice

Were I the president the entire Libyan security guard force would be dead tomorrow with red , white and blue ribbons attached to their breasts.

DebinNC

What about the incitement of Biden constant bleating, "GM's alive and Osama's dead"? The embassy murderers were reportedly yelling, "We're Osama!" as they attacked.

Rob Crawford

Why waste ribbons, Clarice? Why not torn pages of a Koran?

(I almost suggested bacon, but why waste bacon?)

Captain Hate

From a fellow AoS moron:

Outstanding question from a caller on Rush today: "If we're so concerned about hurting the feelings of Muslims, why is Obama telling us 20 times a day he killed Bin Laden?"
Stephanie

Consider the implications of what those two morons are saying: criticizing a religion is not only the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, it can be criminally prosecuted. Unless, of course, the religion is Judaism or Christianity, in which case have at it.

Islamic blasphemy laws are what they are arguing for. Simple as that. Which is what the islamists want to impose on the west.

I wonder if the professor is sympatico with Code Pink? Won't the islamists next be demanding that Code Pink be imprisoned for 'inflaming' their sexual sensibilities and killing over that.

Oh, wait, forgot the islamists already went after vegetables for 'inflaming' their delicate sensibilities... never mind.

Rob Crawford
Oh, wait, forgot the islamists already went after vegetables for 'inflaming' their delicate sensibilities... never mind.

One can only wonder how they reacted to the vagina suits. Maybe that's the story behind the one left abandoned at the DNC?

NK

DD @1:51 is hilarious (inadvertantly of course). A full investigation? I'm sure the House will investigate through Issa, but Bam is still stonewalling F&F with a bogus executive privilege claim. No, the truth will only come out after Bam is ejected from the WH.

Frau Steingehirn

Hard not to gag on Bill Keller's words.

Despite the incendiary rhetoric, it is hard to believe the aim of an Iranian nuclear program is the extermination of Israel. The regime in Iran is brutal, mendacious and meddlesome, and given to spraying gobbets of Hitleresque bile at the Jewish state. But Israel is a nuclear power, backed by a bigger nuclear power. Before an Iranian mushroom cloud had bloomed to its full height over Tel Aviv, a flock of reciprocal nukes would be on the way to incinerate Iran. Iran may encourage fanatic chumps to carry out suicide missions, but there is not the slightest reason to believe the mullahs themselves are suicidal.
NYT
NK

Picking up from yesterday-- as CINC, Bam is fully and completely to blame for the Deaths in Bengazhi and destruction in Cairo. Let's see how Bam accepts responsibility and learns. ha, ha, Ha, HA, HAHAHAHAAAAA!

fdcol63

We need B-52's and Tomahawks armed with pig fat dispersal units raining their loads all over Egypt and Libya right now, with credible threats to do the same to Mecca and Medina if these attacks persist.

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